Honda Civic Type R FK8 vs FL5
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- I've been waiting 6 months to drive the new FL5 Civic Type R, and what better way to introduce it to the channel than by comparing it with it's predecessor: the FK8.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:07 Exterior
1:31 Drivetrain
2:13 Interior
3:54 FL5 Driving Experience
6:03 FK8 Driving Experience
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Top video! Undoubtedly, both are great cars. But the FK8 is just a true icon - unique styling, drive etc! I do believe people will appreciate this more over time. Boost Blue is gorgeous!!
Thanks man, personally I prefer the FL5 but the FK8 will be well remembered
Unique styling? The FK8’s styling is its weakest point. Looks like it was designed by a bunch of 12 year olds. The FL5 actually looks like a serious car
@@DS-en4et The fact that it looks like it was designed by twelve year olds is what makes it great. We all want to drive the cars we dreamed about when we were 12. You cant find that anywhere else unless you are prepared to spends hundreds of thousand of dollars. My FK8 will never be sold. I might even by a second one.
TO EACH HIS OWN. IM JUST SO GLAD AND EVEN
MORE SURE NOW THAN EVER TO KEEP MY 21 BB FK8. THE ORIGINAL AGGRESSIVE DESIGN THAT WORKS AND "DOESNT CARE WHAT WILL OTHER PEOPLE THINK" MENTALITY. THE FK8 IS GOING TO BE A LEGENDARY CAR SOMEDAY, MARK MY WORDS!
This "boyracer/design by kid" comments that people usually says about the FK8, to me are just IGNORANT statements so. Like the FK8 "fake" vents that people are saying are funny. First of all they are NOT OFFICIALLY vents. Honda NEVER CLAIMED its a vent lol, its just part of the design cue that MANY Sports Cars and Super cars have on ALSO. So its not just the Type R that has these "looks" incorporated in their car but LOTS of car manufacturers as well all over the world, Germans and Japanese alike in their Sports Cars.
These "boy racer/Gundam look" that are goin around are plain stupid and nothing but a SUBJECTIVE OPINION. Others like me, including the Japanese Engineers who designed the FK8 see it as an aggressive and useful Aerodynamic purposes that a non engineer people dont understand. Even Porsche engineers started to put huge wings on their 911 trims. All of these aerodynamic parts and shape on FK8 have used and purposes, and the "vent look" design cue are just for that..looks lol. Unfortunately others will keep seeing it as a "fake vents" as usual lol 🙄.
I love my FK8 design the first time ive seen it on the picture, it looks Aggressive and original unlike the FL5 who looks like a regular traffic to me imho.
KEEP IN MIND, the agrresive body SHAPE of the FK8 AND the REGULAR 10th gen Civic Hatchback are 95 % similar, they look almost the SAME !!!. So if FK8 is really ugly as these people say (ONLY FOUND ON THE COMMENTS SECTIONS TYPICALLY BTW), then WHY are the sales of its regular Hatchback are waaaay too high AAAND you see a LOT of them regular 10th gen hatchbacks on the roads ALREADY? PROOF that regular non car people from all ages really likes and buy them. I have 3 coworkers, 2 senior adults and one in his 30s that owns them and drive them everyday to work. I asked them what they like about their car and why they chose to buy it and told me they LOVE the looks of it, period, and then they see my FK8 and they love the looks of it as well and usually love taking pics of it From my own experience, I have random people.. old, teens, kids, UPS and Amazon delivery drivers, from all walks of life really who APPROACHED me in parking lots, gas stations, schools, even at Church, traffic streets just to tell me their admirations on the looks of my FK8, nothing but GENUINE praises and made me convinced that its a widely ACCEPTED and APPROVED look by the general public and that made me even MORE proud of my FK8 and these naysayers cannot prove me otherwise. Anyways, You get my point, im just saying i have heard waaaay MORE testimonials from people who told me how much they love the look of the FK8 than people from car group saying its just a boyracer look, thats why its so funny to me whenever i hear people saying it and majority of these hates are coming from the so called "car enthuaiasts" people. First of all the FK8 are designed by Honda Engineers who have race track on mind , the looks are intentionally well designed 100% for racing purposes while the FL5 is a "compromised" design for US markets while just maintaning its racing specifications required imho. Anyways,.... FL5 is a nice lookin car and doesnt look bad in itself, im not saying that its ugly, its prolly a better car than FK8 since as far is built is concern, it's made in Japan which im jealous btw, but other than that, I'll still prefer the FK8 design of it and will keep my 21 FK8 BB thru and thru, she's definitely a keeper for me forever.
Aaand... if they call my FK8 a "boyracer" look, well at least I can say the word "racer" is STILL attached to it, compared to the FL5 "Regular traffic vanilla" look to me. Again, no offense, this is PURELY my humble opinion.
@@khalidfathallah6619YUP TOTALLY AGREE, I LOVE MY FK8 ..PROUD OWNER HERE 💙
I absolutely loved my experience in the FL5, a truely insane car. Great video AS ALWAYS. Keep up the great effort!
Thanks man and yeah the new FL5 is awesome aye
FK8 all day every day.
Good car
@user-gz9tq9fo5b I honestly think FL5 is ugly
@user-gz9tq9fo5b:(
Fk8 looks like a toy so ugly...
Both are fantastic bit I prefer the look and feel of the FK8. It looks more like a true hot hatch whereas the FL5 does resemble an Accord
Interesting’
What an underrated channel. Excellent content.
Thanks
Good video 👍 They both look awesome.
Thanks man
Great video mate. Good to see someone full send in some tougher weather to get an idea what they can really do. Is this near Wellington at all, looks stunning.
All the best from across the ditch glad I've found the channel with getting my type r this week.
Thanks man and enjoy the new car!
I have the Fk8 with TYPE R plate. Never looked back and will hold it for a while!
Awesome!
Yes!!!! I saw the Honda New Zealand post not too long ago. That was quick how fast you got one in!
They’ve actually had them out for 7 months but they’ve been on a ballot scheme instead of first in first serviced
@@KiwiCarLifein Germany they did a lottery because of high demand
@@nfspeedy2 Yep same here
@@KiwiCarLife Ah I see. Nonetheless thanks again for such a superb video
_❤love both cars but the FL5 is just so handsome IMO with exceptional handling, its got my vote👍🏼_ … _another great review brother_ 👏🏼
Yeah man the FL5 looks so nice
I like the looks of the FK8 but I like the upgrades of the FL5. Great video
Thanks!
Great video, have a like 👍🏻 I get my FL5 in about a month… very excited! I do wish I could remove the active sound control easily though. You can simply turn it off in my current golf R using an obd11
Very nice
Hey bro, just found your channel, wish you good luck.
Thanks man
As an FK8 owner, I always wanna see a comparison between an FL5 and an FK8 with the same wheels and tire specs on the track. So sad no one is doing this...
Jolly expensive to do but yeah would be cool haha
Exactly what I was looking for! My man, keep it up.
The styling on the Fl5 really is the tipping factor for me, looks a bit more mature and timeless imo. Other than that I think FK8 wins on overall bang for buck if you can get over the styling.
Thanks man and yeah agree
My dad has a special need to go all out on rain, i remember him in a 1.8 VTi civic zoomin on mountain roads when wipers couldnt wipe the water, limit was 50 he was goin 100, that old Torsen diff was doin work
Goodness haha
I think I'd get the FK8 if I was in NZ I currently have an FL5 in the US though, great video very informative.
Thanks man
@@KiwiCarLife You're welcome brother.
Awesome Honda content as always. Not a lot of people can say they have driven an Fk8 and Fl5 civic type r. Which one do you like most?
Fl5 is better for sure but it also costs heaps more
Please review a Subaru Impreza sg-t manual! If possible! I love watching these reviews
Maybe
Both at the same price the FL5, as current prices are I would definitely go FK8, as the difference does not make sense
True
The internet has know for many years that a teenager in his mums Honda is faster than a lawyer in his leased Lamborghini.
Good to see that continue.
Lol HAHA
Fl5 looks very similar to a Toyota CHR suv, and a bit too generic
~same front bumper design
~similar rear
~similar rear integrated fenders
Great review!
I like both, but I would be in the category of people that would be super happy with the older car and save some cash!
Yeah me too I think
I can’t get over paying $45k USD for a used FK8 though. especially not when they were $38k new
@@SIIKAP1 they’re only 45k NZD here vs 75k NZD for a new FL5
@@KiwiCarLife damn USA market is insane then
@@SIIKAP1 absolutely mab
Would love the fl5 but the price is insane, even the used fk8 are still around 50k which is not cheap either.
That's why I went with a RS Megane 265 with recaros and LSD, cup chassis.
Less power than civic but is still rapid and gives all the joys of a hot hatchback, and the styling is much easier in the eyes than a fk8.
If u were ever in Chch I would let u drive my RS Megane for a video, would be interesting to hear your opinion on the bang of buck of these cars
Fair enough, and yeah lots of people have been saying I should review a 265 so I’d be keen! Hit me up on Insta
Hi that was a good review.
FL5 for me ,need that lotto win though.
There were quality issues with the Swindon built cars,mostly paint and poor panel gap fit etc,still far better than any Tesla though.
At least coming out of Japan QA should be a lot better if you can get one.
What are they now $75K+?
Still like my 09 Accord Euro tourer with K24,not exciting but smooth and refined.
Yeah the FL5 is pretty expensive aye
FL5 all the way, looks way better in every way. 🔥
Yeah it’s great aye
Nah
this reminds me of when VW went from the mk5 gti to the mk6 gti. They just improved on what was not great on previous gen and called it a day. Thats not saying its a bad thing either
Yeah mk5 and mk6 gti is a good analogy for these two. I should have used it in the video
What? The Mk5 GTI is one of the best VW made - after the crap that was the Mk3 and Mk4
@@golfboy666gti agreed. But everyone says the mk6 is a step up, and considering mk6 is built off the mk5 essentially
Having replaced the OEM Continental tyres on my UK 19 Reg FK8 with Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tyres I have found that the Michelins': are more comfortable, less road noise, steering slightly heavier, which I prefer as mostly driven in comfort mode, & no chunk chunk when manoeuvring in cold temperatures. Have driven when -3 deg C & car felt secure. The NCAP safety of the FL5 leaves something to be concerned about for the driver in the offset crash test. In the UK the FL5 is priced at about £12k more than the FK8 was priced.
Yeah PS4’s are kinda the gold standard for good tyres these days
Always preferred subdued styling. FL5 for me. But if I can get a good deal on an FK8, why not?
Yeah agree
I’m thinking of getting FL5 or FK8 LE, FK8 LE costs USD 11K more, which one to go for?
Definitely FL5
I would have an FL5 all day long but just cannot part with my FK8. I love the outrageous styling and evil front end.
They’re awesome aye
Should do one for a 2014 wrx 👀
Will hopefully do one at some point coz I do like them. Would have to be manual though
I like the FL5 model more... but I dream about having any Type R model. Shame about the weather, it should have been dry. The only segment that I don't understand in evolution of these cars is that older cars had glorious sound, and the new ones have fake engine noise.
It’s the way the world is going with turbos and particulate filters
Can you review the gr86
Maybe haha
In the market for type R , Im looking at a moded Fk8 or stock FL5
Would recommend both!
I have mix feeling, I love the old base Civic hatchback FK, but the FK8 is too much for me, and then came a FL5, that so clean IMO
Yeah I’d agree
Did they add fake engine noise to the face-lift fk8 as my 2019 doesn't have that ?
Yeah they did haha
@KiwiCarLife they should of made them with a valvetronic exhaust and problem solved 🤣 first thing I did was replace the exhaust , noise is essential to cars like these 😎
There is a big difference in the torque curve with the new FL5 though. Absolute numbers aren't that different, but as i recall it has more midrange torque now.
Yeah I can feel that, and smoother power delivery
FK8 (facelift)❤
Good car
FL5 has a more subdued, timeless, and cohesive design both inside and outside. Also it will have lower production numbers if im not mistaken so will go down in history as the more desireable of the two.
Indeed
fl5 already reasonably looks dated
others have said the opposite is true that fk8 has a more relevant, timeless design
Fl5 for eg, looks very similar to a Toyota CHR suv, and a bit too generic
~same front bumper design
~similar rear
~similar rear integrated fenders
etc
Can't get over the tablet on the dashboard !! It would be the 100% go for it otherwise. I mean both are just impressive machines!
Honestly I think it’s one of the better implementations of an infotainment screen. Very easy to use
@@KiwiCarLife no doubt, it is a good one! Just a personal taste. I had a few Hondas and I personally like the screen integrated lower in the dashboard.
I dont know man.. The maket is really crazy. Here in Canada I see some FK8 with 45k KM's on them going for 50k while the FL5 MSRP starts at 50k here in Canada...
Goodness me not the case here fl5 70k, fk8 around 50
@@KiwiCarLife yeah cuz we dont have stupid markups. Only good thing about living in Canada.
@@warwid5419 nzd though
Might be dumb but I also wanna see how the standard civic measures up lol
True might be able to line that up
love the fl5 but too damn expensive for me🥲
Yeah they’re a lot aye
Which one do you think will age well?
both will
FL5 for sure
The price is unfathomable
Is it
New review idea: fn2 vs fk8. Why less is more. Sell the fn2 to me 😂
Fl5 is beautiful
Good car
You're paying for a better looking car with a 5%, at most, improvement in performance, mostly on the track because the drive modes moved up a notch in the FL5 (FK8 Sport is FL5 Comfort, etc.). You can't get the FK8 comfort mode in the FL5, and that's why everyone reviewing it complains about it. Not that I ever drive in comfort mode.
More low RPM torque in the FL5 and better exhaust sound is also nice. Exterior and interior is way better in the FL5. FL5 is a cooler looking car overall, but bigger. That said, I have a 2021 FK8, and there's no way in hell I'd spend way over MSRP for the aforementioned niceties. But if I had a choice between the two, I'd take the FL5. I've got multiple "upgrade to a FL5" letters from the dealership...with the caveat that they suck up my equity in the car at pennies on the dollar to do so. No thanks buddy. And last I checked, you'd be lucky to get a FL5 for 5k over sticker right now. That's the best I've seen on YT to date. More likely 10k plus over. No thanks. But you better get one now before they make you buy an electric Yugo or some shit, so they say.
Fair enough
As a FD2 owner i say FL5 for me if I can afford one 😅
Haha yeah I’d agree with that
FL5 is the answer if you dont mind the markup....but i think a FK8 would be a more reasonable choice.
Yeah ttue
There’s a purist in me that finds fake engine noise deeply insulting to the sensibilities.
Engineers/marketers who do this should be sentenced working at public toilets.
In all fairness they do it because the engines are so quiet now they are hard to hear at high speeds
I really wanted an FL5 but sadly they are bringing limited numbers here to the UK at the insane price at £48k, up from £35k for the FK8. Shame, although there are already a bunch on Autotrader and they seem to be selling for what they cost new with delivery miles.
Oh goodness yeah here they were only 7k nzd more than the fk8, but now they have a $5500 clean car fee. Stupid tree hugging governments
In fact the FK8 had a slightly shorter gear ratio and a shorter final drive
Yeah I can definitely tell after driving it
In other words, this will be the same review when the next Gen comes out and it just comes down to your favorite design.
Not if the next gen is electric haha
FK8 all day
the best bro
Good car
Having had both the FL5 has improved on so much and feels better built and ride feels more planted....
FK8 all day everyday 🔥…. FL5 looks like a regular civic LOL
Fair enough
The fk8’s over-styled exterior is the elephant in the room I’ll admit
Yeah it’s a lot of people’s main complaint
Most importantly: how does it feel overall compared to both your euro-Rs
This is after you made your improvements
Oh much better obviously haha there’s no comparison
Fk8 done.
Good car
First!
Well done!
Can’t make up my mind, do you suppose you could lend me both for a weekend and then I can get back to you with an answer? 😉
Hahaha
Ah, some good old fashion axle tramp.
Yeah especially in the fk8 haha
Imo, FL5, especially for its price point, it's an absolute disaster. Looks meek without character and comes across as just a face-lift rather than a new version.
Goodness that’s a controversial opinion!
The FL5 look like accord.
Does a bit
Fk8 all day
Good car
i have a cl9, dream car is fk8 i do like the fl5 is too pricey!
Yeah they’re not cheap aye…
Synthetic engine sound is an automotive sin, especially coming from Honda who made the best sounding engines around.
In all fairness, without it you can’t even hear the engine. Not like the old days anymore sadly
@@KiwiCarLife Sad = (
FL5 is definitely a car that would last longer in my garage over the long term.
Yeah agree
fk8 but fd2r over everythang
Fd2 is cool
FK8 = fuck It 😂
FL5 = face lift....5? 🫤
Something like that hah
Both missing valve lift on the intake, so both are rubbish.
Lol
Love my boost blue FL5! Honda finally made me pop the clutch on getting the type R with the sleek, mature styling. 🤌😎
Nice man!