I like it. It’s off putting. You look at him and you know something’s really fucked up with him. I know people who talk like that who have been blown up. He played it real good.
Jack Nicholson swore he would never work with Kubrick again after the abuse he witnessed and endured on The Shining. And he never did. Scatman Crothers allegedly broke down in tears after many takes, begging Kubrick to answer "What do you want?"
As someone who did some acting earlier in life, the best directors were always the ones that trusted their own actors. The worst ones always micromanage and try to transform their actor into something unnatural.
may be true a lot of times, but we can't generalize these things. for example, Spielberg also used to micromanage Liam Neeson's performance in Shindler's List. It all comes down to what the scene needs, truth is the best directors know when to have the right approach, the worst ones stick to some predetermined way of directing they've been told at some point was the "correct" way to direct. each film is its own thing and requires something different, same is true for every other aspect of filmmaking
His vision is the script and the set, the actors need to become the character they read on script, if they do a good job at becoming that character they are fulfilling his vision. Micromanagement means that the director didn’t make his vision clear enough from the outset and therefore is not a genius
@Littlepig_ee except it's literally not though if it was we wouldn't have any of the things we have today. We'd still be shitting in buckets outside in a wooden stall. Genius is easy to convey when you know what you want, and Kubrick certainly does NOT know what he wants.
@@zachariahnye4953 I'm sorry, but there is a huge spectrum between micromanagement and giving your actors literally nothing. They can't read minds. Yes, Kubrick is a genius, but if you need to do as many takes as he did with as many different actors, the problem is not with the actors, it's with the directors communication. If "do better" doesn't cut it after take 37, maybe try something else, like _directing_ your actors to where you want them. Other genius directors did it, so it wouldn't do Kubrick any harm.
Vincent is one of the best actors in history.. He's not underrated but underutilized. Every actor that ever worked with him says they're in awe of his gift. Pacino and deniro are overrated, denoffrio out performs them all
I know the dude made mostly masterpieces but you can't deny that as a person he seemed to lack humanity. He didn't tell actors what he wanted because he didn't know what he wanted, he just wanted that magical feeling that no one can pinpoint, once he had like 87 takes and SOMETHING would click in the editing room. Twin Peaks The Return is also Kubrick-esque but if you watch behind the scenes there, Lynch knows what he wants, Kubrick didn't.
@@mustang8206 there are people online who think there is no cost too high for good art. So acknowledging that yes, his art is great, is a good way to ask "at what cost, though?" Because the point is that no matter how good the art is, it does not justify overworking and abusing actors. A huge part of what The Shining is about is domestic violence and mistreatment of meek submissive women. So to achieve that, you abuse, mistreat and traumatize the actor playing said submissive woman just to . . . .? to what? To make it seem "real"? To put yourself in Jack's shoes so you can understand how Jack is feeling so you can direct him better? To know what it's like to feel ANYTHING? Who knows when you're an inhumane psycho trying to understand humanity. I believe Hal is his most autobiographical character ever.
@@chaselipp987 tell that to Kubrick whose favorite movie was Eraserhead. I never denied Kubrick was an artist, he was a cruel and inhumane artist, which is something that people who worked with him have also said. He was a genius, and much smarter than the likes of you since he clearly did not think that Lynch's movies were garbage and held them in high regard, because guess what, the subconscious and the unconscious are weird, and Lynch's films, although not perfect, are much more interested in those realities than material stuff.
Kubrick was a great filmmaker, but he came to it from photography, not from the theater. He didn't know any more about acting than any amateur who knows what he likes when he sees it.
😂😂😂😂 the hell you saying have you seen a Kubrick film ? beautiful execution from the actors. an execution that can only exist under the guidance of a great filmmaker
@@laubedunfou2848I think what he meant is since Kubrick came from photography not theater background, it seems like Kubrick lacking humility of acting process. He just knew how to push the buttons of the actors to get their best. Hence enormous amount of takes needed. Just my opinion.
As a big Kubrick fan, I think his lack of desire to direct actors ultimately hurt him at times. It’s why he had to do so many takes, it’s almost like putting actors into a trance. It can be a great effect, and it can make great performances, but there are better and more efficient ways to get the performances you’re looking for as a director. I kind of wonder what it would have been like if he had explored those techniques more, but we’ll never know. Still love his films, but I empathize with his actors deeply.
@@greenluxi I agree in some ways, but the ends don't always justify the means, especially when it means working with people and finding efficient ways to work with people. His methods were borderline abusive at times, and I don't think that should be excused. I say this as someone who is heavily influenced by Kubrick and who considers him my all-time favorite filmmaker.
@@Cheyne_TetraMFG I think we might a fundamental ideological split, so there's that. But also, I'm always weary when someone uses vague terms like "getting away with it" or "accountability" because rarely are there any specific actions or conditions stated with it. Kubrick's name and legacy are tied to his process, no one who speaks of him in any depth omits his wrongdoings from the narrative, and I guess the "excusing it" part is also somewhat subjective, what does excusing it look like to you? Because personally, I don't think acknowledging that there's no way of knowing if the end product would have been as profound without Kubrick's specific process on any given Kubrick film set, is the same as excusing the behavior. For me, both can co-exist, the knowledge that it was abusive but that it produced some of the best work in cinema--not even getting into the reality that abusive behavior among the director greats are actually the more common disposition not the minority of behavior. So in that way, what is done is done, and I believe it should always be part of his legacy but to negate that through those abuses he created a particularly profound and irreplaceable contribution to art. At the end of the day, all that can be done is to condemn it and move on. It's the paradox of art, it's often bred out of awful things. But like I said maybe we have a fundamental ideological split and that can't really be overcome in a RUclips comment section.
@@greenluxi I have to say, this response is highly presumptuous of my perspective. I never used the word accountability or the phrase “getting away with it,” and yes, I think having actors repeat a scene nearly endlessly with little to no constructive feedback does border on abusive (note that I didn’t say that it *is* abusive, but that it’s borderline to it). Also I take issue with the idea that because the controlling disposition of directors is considered “the norm” that we should just accept it as the way it is. It also negates the often compassionate approach many directors do take with their actors, David Lynch being among them whom almost every actor I’ve read describes him just that way. And this isn’t to say that Kubrick was always like this or that he’s like that with every actor or in every situation, just that that’s a technique he used a great deal that I personally think hurt his work at times, though it doesn’t take away from his and his works’ greatness. I mean talk about compassion, Kubrick ended a day of shooting early because he found that during the filming of one of Full Metal Jacket’s many explosions, they had accidentally killed a small group of feral cats. He was so despondent that he called off shooting for the day. I will do you a courtesy and won’t make assumptions about your ideology, but I’d say it would behoove you to consider that critique is not an attempt to “negate” any legacy, it’s simply a way to learn and build upon what has been built before us. This is something Kubrick did a great deal and welcomed as well. We can and should talk about our heroes as nuanced people as they all are and were. I still love Kubrick and his work, and I think there is much to learn from his work, for better and for worse, whatever proportion that may be. For example, I think his lack of direct intervention with actors hurt in the sense that we didn’t get more great films from him. Just 13 films over an over 50 year career; if he’d been more efficient with his direction of actors, perhaps there would be more for us to love and enjoy. But as it is, I think his legacy is one that is indispensable, especially to my own creative journey. Edited a bit for clarity
@@kevinbroderick3779 Shelley Duvall gave an interview where she spoke about how that was a fake news story, and that he was extremely nice. It's based on Stanley being Jewish and male.
The best directors don't tell actors what to do, how to do it, what their lines are or what the story is about. Sometimes they don't even show up. Guys can be directing a different movie across the world and you still feel their presence behind the camera. Amazing.
I know very little about the world of Hollywood, but… isn’t it the directors job to direct? Give direction? You don’t need to micromanage to give notes. You can trust your actors AND tell them what you didn’t like about a particular take, right?
A lot of people in here are acting like there’s only one way to direct a film. He’s one of the most notorious perfectionists in film history. If he didn’t like to give specific acting notes then there must have been a method to it. That doesn’t mean it’s the ideal way or he wasn’t cruel, but his results speak for themselves. And he didn’t always need the best actors or the best performances.
@@dzenacs2011are you telling me that simple notes like "can you try to cry a bit more, or try to be more joyful, etc" are over explaining and unneeded? Come on, I agree kubrick made some great movies, but he seems like he was an absolute d-bag and was just a sadist
As much as I love full metal jacket. A space odyssey is such a groundbreaking and beautiful movie and the fact it came out in the late 60s is absolutely astonishing
@@loneranger9485 well it's a free youtube movie right now if you want to watch it again. I'm not 100% certain of the plot either but I think the beginning is just like the start/dawn of man and that rectangle thing is like a way to transcend or something I think. Idk man
@@loneranger9485 It's 3 separate stories that take place in 3 different times in history. The dawn of man, The Modern age, and The foreseeable future. Each story is strung together in a way that ties all of them together with the monolith. Every time the monolith appears, there is a "jump" in the advancement of our species. Implying that when we reach a certain point in the development of our species, the monolith presents itself to us and helps us advance even further from that point. The origin of the monolith is never made clear, but it's implied that it's either alien in nature or a representation of ourselves, helping ourselves along in the timeline of history. Not sure why people find it hard to understand tbh other than it being pretty slow.
Ok but as an actor I want the director to tell me exactly what they want from me so I can perform it the way they want to be performed. Working for him sounds like the most nerve racking experience ever
Did he make them do dozens of takes to get to the raw emotion? The core of humanity that comes out from the frustration of what the F does this director want? It appears that SK did this type of meticulous setup and shots and camera angles. His actors were to be used just as meticulously. Notwithstanding they are humans that he was pushing to the limit. But it looks like to SK the actors were just props and lights to get the right angle or the right emotion. Do it 20 times and somewhere in there is the raw human emotion he was looking for.
My big brother went to Nam two tours 67, 69 as full on combat Marine I still remember a lot of stories very similar too full Metal Jacket Stanley Kubrick version of U.S.Marines from boot camp to combat
I've watched all his movies after Strange love and the only "wooden" performance I ever saw from any character in any of his movies was Ryan O'Neal in Barry Lyndon. That probably has more to do with the fact that O'Neal is a horrific actor than Kubrick though.
I heard that Kubrick loved pre-production on Films and he also loved post-production, but he didn't enjoy actually Filming and saw it as a necessary evil.
@it's funny when there's comments like this this is like judging an entire album because of some lines you saw separated from the songs context like ARE YOU DUMM?
As far as I can tell SK just doesn't want his actors to speak like normal people. Everyone's delivery needs to be just a little bit robotic or affected in some way as to make it demand you pay attention.
Now tell me about how he psychologically tortured Shelly Duval to the point where she frequently threw up and started losing her hair. EDIT Given some of the psychopathic replies I've gotten to that comment that was meant as nothing but a bit of snark, along with random attacks on both Kubrick and Duvall by people trying to "left-right" this issue, I'd like to clarify the story a bit. What was done with Duvall was a part of a process used by many horror directors back in the day, the idea being that the extra stressors the actor is under off screen shows up "in the face, in the eyes" onscreen to add another layer of realism. Shelley knew this going in, she agreed to it and understood the purpose and has never attacked Kubrick over this. What makes the incident so famous is that horror movies are usually shot in 6-10 weeks, what Kubrick and Duvall didn't think about was how long this shoot was going to be (13 months) and because this treatment lasted so freaking long, in her case it manifested with a significant physical and mental health decline over the months and because Kubrick and to a lesser extent Duvall were so hardcore in their approach to the character, nobody realized just how bad the unintended consequences were going to be until too late.
He literally told her to quit... He'd recast her if she couldn't handle it... She wanted the fame, the money, but couldn't handle the heat. Was she mistreated? I'd say so yeah. Was the rest of the cast? Yes, but they look back and love the experience. Love the movie, the art. And watching the movie, you can see it really brought out the best from the actors. So, stop being so damn dramatic about a topic you obviously know very little about.
God broke the mold with Stanley…There will never be a director of his caliber ever again…I’m thankful he shared his gift with the world through his art & talent
I just realised that that second guy plays WILSON FISK in Daredevil. Holy moly. I wondered why he looked familiar. His voice is so different. Plus, you know. Hair.
@@padmelotus Private Pyle you had better square yourself away & start shitting me Tiffany cufflinks or I will definitely fuck you up! One of my favorite movies 😁
Just revel in your insanity and enjoy it! If people think that you are crazy, they don't like to bother you in case it trips you off. I was crazy at one point in time, but now I am sane and I have the Court appointed Psychiatrist's letter to prove it! Well that was about 16 years ago. Now, who knows?
Through suffering, there is truth. The great directors suffered and/or made others to suffer for their art. Friedkin, Kubrick, Kurosawa, Cameron, Spielberg...all.
Spielberg should not be there. He made some fun block busters, he isn't an Auteur anywhere near the level of the others you listed. Neither is Cameron. You're also only talking about Hollywood directors.
@@ploopy8780 Artificial Intelligence was originally supposed to be made by Kubrick until he passed. But Spielberg made it instead. Also, Kubrick was objectively a Hollywood director and actively sought to make films that while extremely clever, could also be palatable for wider audiences.
I saw a interview with Matt Damon who said they can't do these in depth and personal movies anymore with streaming. A movie company used to recoup 25-35% of costs on DVD sales on the back end. A movie could basically have a shitty theatre run, but still make money. Now the movie companies don't want to take a risk on good movies
@@r0b0hobo paranormal activity with a world wide box office of $200,000,000 and a budget of $15,000 in 2009 making it the most profitable movie in cinematic history. Is it possible again?? Sure!! Will a movie ever repeat that kind of profit vs investment... I just don't think so but who knows
Man I remember the interview where he explains it on the wings thing but there's another actor who explained the bit but he went into more detail about the DVD still making money even years after the films initial release and that was a good chunk of all celeb and movie makers profits. Now we aren't seeing those sales come in years after release and it's destroying Hollywood
Full Metal Jacket was the epitome of emotions of Vietnam. All of it. From Gomer killing himself on the toilet to the Arvan pimp telling joker and rafterman his girl could smoke a cigarette with her p****. Stanley was way high over all the directors. Closes one would be Taylor Hackford. 🤔..
Yeap. It was filmed mostly in an old factory grounds in England which was scheduled for ball wrecking for quite some time. Production did an incredible job of transforming the place into a believable war torn Vietnam city. They used special camera angles to transform that industrial landscape as a southeast Asia setting and props mimicking Viet street signboards, ads, architecture, and memorabilia to make it a believable place.
Did you know that the book The Short-Timers which the movie comes from, was written by Gustav Hasford - a Viet Nam marine war correspondent, who would later be sentenced to a short prison stint for taking out a hoard of books (more than 700, supposedly) from various libraries and never returning them?
Full Metal Jacket is still a favorite of mine abt the Vietnam War, mostly bc of how he told it, esp @ Paris Island, where they trained the young men forghe war, average age being 19!! That means a lot if kids were in that war. Remember the song 19 from Paul Hardcastle, that was abt that subject, if you don't know it, on Spotify and on here probably, you can find it there, bit of a remix kind of song, but some of the spoken lyrics are from actual soldiers.
One thing about Stanley he had no BS whatsoever if you're a big time movie star if he doesn't satisfy on your acting he would say it to your face infront of everybody else.
We frequently see many great artists act in this way- Ravel called his musicians “slaves,” a few modern-day actors have been revealed to be incredibly hostile towards their crew, and if anything, it shows their inability to get out of their own head, and Kubrick is no exception. It is widely known how much his presence had on people in a negative way (I am referencing Shelley Duvall), and a few people who lack understanding of life call this “weakness” in the actor. This is not true. Yes, these people create great art, but lots of the great art we have today has been created with certain trade-offs that are extremely questionable and somewhat unnecessary.
Stop regurgitating this rumor that has been debunked by Shelley herself in many interviews and many cast/crew members (there's a documentary by Vivian that is a making of and one of interviews with the crew where they mention Stanley not being abusive to her) or Lee Unkrich's book on The Shining or Michael Cimet's book on Kubrick. Almost all of these dispel the Shelley hoax, which is the 1 (!!!!) time almost every points to in lieu of all the other actors he worked with.
Kubrick's family have repeatedly rebuked the outlandish fantasy that he had something to do with faking the Apollo Landings and have expressed their disgust at those who spread these lies. His daughter Vivian has asked conspiracy theorists (she refers to them as "malicious cranks") to stop using her fathers name in this way and said that what they say is "is manifestly a grotesque lie". Her open letter to moon landing deniers is easily found online. Please think about this and respect the family's wishes. Take care.
I’m directing a stage production and I always make sure that my actors are able to analyse their character during the first rehearsal and use that information to decide how their character moves. All I ask of them is to be at a spot for a line, how they get there is up to them. This allows them to be more engaged and help them feel more involved than just acting. They get to direct themselves, and I direct the show :)
That scene actually kinda stands out in the movie as not the best acting lol. When I watch full metal jacket I actually normally only watch the boot camp part and then call it quits. That’s the best part of the movie for me. Far out the drill Sargent is funny
You never know what take the director will use. You guess it’s the last one. Good guess. But the editing room vibe is different than the on set vibe. As an actor you might have just thrown one out there to get yourself moving and the director chooses your warm up! Hey whatever. The pay is other worldly so if the director says “let’s go again!” You go again and again
Stanley Kubrick's style of directing as well as the atmosphere of his movies was never my preference, because his perspective is cold and unfeeling, and that attitude permeates throughout the whole production process.
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Hard to believe that line delivery was the best take
It’s alot deeper than that. They made him deliver for a few different reasons for the audience and story. Look it up it’s cool
I like it. It’s off putting. You look at him and you know something’s really fucked up with him. I know people who talk like that who have been blown up. He played it real good.
@@AManNamedHawk he sounds like an amateur actor
@@seveneyes77 he sounds mindless and soulless, which is exactly what his character is supposed to be. A mindless, soulless killing machine
@@seveneyes77 alright Mr grown man who plays Pokemon
Harvey keitel quit Eyes wide shut cause Kubrick made him repeatedly walk through a door like fifty times.Keitel was like fuck this and quit lol
Good for him
Yeah fuck that. Kubrick sounds an obnoxious prick
If you’re not directing, you’re a shit director
Jack Nicholson swore he would never work with Kubrick again after the abuse he witnessed and endured on The Shining. And he never did. Scatman Crothers allegedly broke down in tears after many takes, begging Kubrick to answer "What do you want?"
As someone who did some acting earlier in life, the best directors were always the ones that trusted their own actors. The worst ones always micromanage and try to transform their actor into something unnatural.
Exactly
may be true a lot of times, but we can't generalize these things. for example, Spielberg also used to micromanage Liam Neeson's performance in Shindler's List. It all comes down to what the scene needs, truth is the best directors know when to have the right approach, the worst ones stick to some predetermined way of directing they've been told at some point was the "correct" way to direct. each film is its own thing and requires something different, same is true for every other aspect of filmmaking
Oh the worst thing anyone can do is micromanage. Or tell you to do something you are in the middle of doing. Or both of those together
And then there are the kooky crazy ones who have a very specific vision and can’t handle being challenged, but thats just a guess
You've never acted a day in your life.
"He doesnt communicate his vision at all, what a genius!"
Genius is difficult to communicate
His vision is the script and the set, the actors need to become the character they read on script, if they do a good job at becoming that character they are fulfilling his vision. Micromanagement means that the director didn’t make his vision clear enough from the outset and therefore is not a genius
@Littlepig_ee except it's literally not though if it was we wouldn't have any of the things we have today. We'd still be shitting in buckets outside in a wooden stall. Genius is easy to convey when you know what you want, and Kubrick certainly does NOT know what he wants.
@@zachariahnye4953 I'm sorry, but there is a huge spectrum between micromanagement and giving your actors literally nothing. They can't read minds. Yes, Kubrick is a genius, but if you need to do as many takes as he did with as many different actors, the problem is not with the actors, it's with the directors communication. If "do better" doesn't cut it after take 37, maybe try something else, like _directing_ your actors to where you want them. Other genius directors did it, so it wouldn't do Kubrick any harm.
Doesn’t have to, he hired a cast that he knows will fill those roles, if encouraged to dig deep.
Clint Eastwood enters the chat:
“Ok cut let’s move on. Or you wanna waste everybody’s time?”
Clint eastwood is a much worse director so
He’s not a good director
@@Melanie-Shea Says you.
Akira Kurosawa was also a one take guy.
“That’s a wrap! We got a 3pm tee time.”
@@Manu-Official "Two takes? Amateurs like you do two takes, I do one take. Cut it, I'll be in my two story trailer."
I love Vincent he’s one of our great American actors underrated
Vincent is one of the best actors in history..
He's not underrated but underutilized.
Every actor that ever worked with him says they're in awe of his gift.
Pacino and deniro are overrated, denoffrio out performs them all
shame he's wasted in shitty marvel shows
I know the dude made mostly masterpieces but you can't deny that as a person he seemed to lack humanity. He didn't tell actors what he wanted because he didn't know what he wanted, he just wanted that magical feeling that no one can pinpoint, once he had like 87 takes and SOMETHING would click in the editing room. Twin Peaks The Return is also Kubrick-esque but if you watch behind the scenes there, Lynch knows what he wants, Kubrick didn't.
Lynch is in many ways the most criminally under-rated director of all time. He's actually superior to Kubrick in several ways.
There's nothing wrong with admitting he lacked humanity. You don't have to acknowledge he made good movies first
@@mustang8206 there are people online who think there is no cost too high for good art. So acknowledging that yes, his art is great, is a good way to ask "at what cost, though?" Because the point is that no matter how good the art is, it does not justify overworking and abusing actors. A huge part of what The Shining is about is domestic violence and mistreatment of meek submissive women. So to achieve that, you abuse, mistreat and traumatize the actor playing said submissive woman just to . . . .? to what? To make it seem "real"? To put yourself in Jack's shoes so you can understand how Jack is feeling so you can direct him better? To know what it's like to feel ANYTHING? Who knows when you're an inhumane psycho trying to understand humanity.
I believe Hal is his most autobiographical character ever.
Lynch's movies are cult garbage. They're weird movies and only weirdos like them. Kubrick was an artist
@@chaselipp987 tell that to Kubrick whose favorite movie was Eraserhead. I never denied Kubrick was an artist, he was a cruel and inhumane artist, which is something that people who worked with him have also said. He was a genius, and much smarter than the likes of you since he clearly did not think that Lynch's movies were garbage and held them in high regard, because guess what, the subconscious and the unconscious are weird, and Lynch's films, although not perfect, are much more interested in those realities than material stuff.
God, what an amazing cast.
So easy to forget that D’onofrio and Ermy were only in the first part of the movie!
Kubrick was a great filmmaker, but he came to it from photography, not from the theater. He didn't know any more about acting than any amateur who knows what he likes when he sees it.
😂😂😂😂 the hell you saying
have you seen a Kubrick film ? beautiful execution from the actors. an execution that can only exist under the guidance of a great filmmaker
@@laubedunfou2848I think what he meant is since Kubrick came from photography not theater background, it seems like Kubrick lacking humility of acting process. He just knew how to push the buttons of the actors to get their best. Hence enormous amount of takes needed. Just my opinion.
As a big Kubrick fan, I think his lack of desire to direct actors ultimately hurt him at times. It’s why he had to do so many takes, it’s almost like putting actors into a trance. It can be a great effect, and it can make great performances, but there are better and more efficient ways to get the performances you’re looking for as a director. I kind of wonder what it would have been like if he had explored those techniques more, but we’ll never know. Still love his films, but I empathize with his actors deeply.
It's really hard to argue with Stanley Kubrick's results regardless of the method to get there.
@@greenluxi I agree in some ways, but the ends don't always justify the means, especially when it means working with people and finding efficient ways to work with people. His methods were borderline abusive at times, and I don't think that should be excused. I say this as someone who is heavily influenced by Kubrick and who considers him my all-time favorite filmmaker.
@@Cheyne_TetraMFG I think we might a fundamental ideological split, so there's that. But also, I'm always weary when someone uses vague terms like "getting away with it" or "accountability" because rarely are there any specific actions or conditions stated with it. Kubrick's name and legacy are tied to his process, no one who speaks of him in any depth omits his wrongdoings from the narrative, and I guess the "excusing it" part is also somewhat subjective, what does excusing it look like to you? Because personally, I don't think acknowledging that there's no way of knowing if the end product would have been as profound without Kubrick's specific process on any given Kubrick film set, is the same as excusing the behavior. For me, both can co-exist, the knowledge that it was abusive but that it produced some of the best work in cinema--not even getting into the reality that abusive behavior among the director greats are actually the more common disposition not the minority of behavior. So in that way, what is done is done, and I believe it should always be part of his legacy but to negate that through those abuses he created a particularly profound and irreplaceable contribution to art. At the end of the day, all that can be done is to condemn it and move on. It's the paradox of art, it's often bred out of awful things. But like I said maybe we have a fundamental ideological split and that can't really be overcome in a RUclips comment section.
@@greenluxi I have to say, this response is highly presumptuous of my perspective. I never used the word accountability or the phrase “getting away with it,” and yes, I think having actors repeat a scene nearly endlessly with little to no constructive feedback does border on abusive (note that I didn’t say that it *is* abusive, but that it’s borderline to it). Also I take issue with the idea that because the controlling disposition of directors is considered “the norm” that we should just accept it as the way it is. It also negates the often compassionate approach many directors do take with their actors, David Lynch being among them whom almost every actor I’ve read describes him just that way. And this isn’t to say that Kubrick was always like this or that he’s like that with every actor or in every situation, just that that’s a technique he used a great deal that I personally think hurt his work at times, though it doesn’t take away from his and his works’ greatness. I mean talk about compassion, Kubrick ended a day of shooting early because he found that during the filming of one of Full Metal Jacket’s many explosions, they had accidentally killed a small group of feral cats. He was so despondent that he called off shooting for the day. I will do you a courtesy and won’t make assumptions about your ideology, but I’d say it would behoove you to consider that critique is not an attempt to “negate” any legacy, it’s simply a way to learn and build upon what has been built before us. This is something Kubrick did a great deal and welcomed as well. We can and should talk about our heroes as nuanced people as they all are and were. I still love Kubrick and his work, and I think there is much to learn from his work, for better and for worse, whatever proportion that may be. For example, I think his lack of direct intervention with actors hurt in the sense that we didn’t get more great films from him. Just 13 films over an over 50 year career; if he’d been more efficient with his direction of actors, perhaps there would be more for us to love and enjoy. But as it is, I think his legacy is one that is indispensable, especially to my own creative journey.
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@@greenluxicare to respond you bum? 😂
"Mr. Nickelson, is that the most overacting you can do?"
He nearly drove Shelley Duvall to a nervous breakdown.
@@kevinbroderick3779 Gleefully, it's said.
If over acting means perfection, then yes..
@@kevinbroderick3779 Shelley Duvall gave an interview where she spoke about how that was a fake news story, and that he was extremely nice. It's based on Stanley being Jewish and male.
@@anotherjewishsharpnicholas9425 Uh buddy.. Hollywood is chock full of people who are "jewish and male".
The best directors don't tell actors what to do, how to do it, what their lines are or what the story is about. Sometimes they don't even show up. Guys can be directing a different movie across the world and you still feel their presence behind the camera. Amazing.
Stanley was a different breed of directors. We can see the effect in his movies.
*effect
Solid.
Stanley Kubrick might have been a genius but he had a thing for over the top, maniacal frenzy acting.
I know very little about the world of Hollywood, but… isn’t it the directors job to direct? Give direction? You don’t need to micromanage to give notes. You can trust your actors AND tell them what you didn’t like about a particular take, right?
A lot of people in here are acting like there’s only one way to direct a film. He’s one of the most notorious perfectionists in film history. If he didn’t like to give specific acting notes then there must have been a method to it. That doesn’t mean it’s the ideal way or he wasn’t cruel, but his results speak for themselves. And he didn’t always need the best actors or the best performances.
You'd think so but not with Kubrick
@@MrElephantBeach thats false equivalency
Well he directs and release the movies . What you want for him? That he will explain your role like you are little kid?
@@dzenacs2011are you telling me that simple notes like "can you try to cry a bit more, or try to be more joyful, etc" are over explaining and unneeded? Come on, I agree kubrick made some great movies, but he seems like he was an absolute d-bag and was just a sadist
He liked over-the-top type of acting.
Everything, really. Striking and iconic sets, music, costumes, themes, and ideas.
As much as I love full metal jacket. A space odyssey is such a groundbreaking and beautiful movie and the fact it came out in the late 60s is absolutely astonishing
Watched it 4x. Still unsure of its meaning ..plot .
@@loneranger9485 well it's a free youtube movie right now if you want to watch it again. I'm not 100% certain of the plot either but I think the beginning is just like the start/dawn of man and that rectangle thing is like a way to transcend or something I think. Idk man
@@loneranger9485 gahbage movie
@@loneranger9485 It's 3 separate stories that take place in 3 different times in history. The dawn of man, The Modern age, and The foreseeable future.
Each story is strung together in a way that ties all of them together with the monolith. Every time the monolith appears, there is a "jump" in the advancement of our species. Implying that when we reach a certain point in the development of our species, the monolith presents itself to us and helps us advance even further from that point. The origin of the monolith is never made clear, but it's implied that it's either alien in nature or a representation of ourselves, helping ourselves along in the timeline of history.
Not sure why people find it hard to understand tbh other than it being pretty slow.
heads or tails, Mr
chigurh?
Stanley Kubrick sounds chill af
Stanley sounds like my film teacher lowkey 😂
I feel like the actor who was 8-ball must be one of the coolest and most fun peeps to be around
Vincent is a wonderful actor I really liked him on law & order criminal intent
Ok but as an actor I want the director to tell me exactly what they want from me so I can perform it the way they want to be performed. Working for him sounds like the most nerve racking experience ever
Did he make them do dozens of takes to get to the raw emotion? The core of humanity that comes out from the frustration of what the F does this director want?
It appears that SK did this type of meticulous setup and shots and camera angles. His actors were to be used just as meticulously. Notwithstanding they are humans that he was pushing to the limit. But it looks like to SK the actors were just props and lights to get the right angle or the right emotion. Do it 20 times and somewhere in there is the raw human emotion he was looking for.
" I don't always know what I want. All I know is what I don't want."
-Stanley Kubrick
What a great little story. He did make good actors better
I so wished that movie was another 30-60mins longer.👍🇺🇸
Watch it and apocalypse now back to back, it's a trip
My big brother went to Nam two tours 67, 69 as full on combat Marine I still remember a lot of stories very similar too full Metal Jacket Stanley Kubrick version of U.S.Marines from boot camp to combat
For such a legendary director he sure has some wooden performances in his movies.
Only if you look at the performance in a vacuum.
I've watched all his movies after Strange love and the only "wooden" performance I ever saw from any character in any of his movies was Ryan O'Neal in Barry Lyndon. That probably has more to do with the fact that O'Neal is a horrific actor than Kubrick though.
I heard that Kubrick loved pre-production on Films and he also loved post-production, but he didn't enjoy actually Filming and saw it as a necessary evil.
All of his films take on a detached nature and perspective
@it's funny when there's comments like this this is like judging an entire album because of some lines you saw separated from the songs context like ARE YOU DUMM?
Love that shyt!! Total transparency!
So the key to be a genius director is to direct by not giving directions.
As far as I can tell SK just doesn't want his actors to speak like normal people. Everyone's delivery needs to be just a little bit robotic or affected in some way as to make it demand you pay attention.
Reminds me of Shyamalan, though he varies the flatness with occasional emotional tearing apart.
Terrible explanation!!!
@@mjax278 care to explain?
@@CRazY-zp3sk Bro left you on read 😂
@@harveyyusoftan6860 Can’t be terrible if it doesn’t exist
“How about better acting”😭😂
Well seen movie 100x , now I want to watch again.
Jayne Cobb hadn't earned hero status yet.
Absolute favorite director and storyteller. The way he stacked messages within his films and his attention to detail is bar none.
Now tell me about how he psychologically tortured Shelly Duval to the point where she frequently threw up and started losing her hair.
EDIT
Given some of the psychopathic replies I've gotten to that comment that was meant as nothing but a bit of snark, along with random attacks on both Kubrick and Duvall by people trying to "left-right" this issue, I'd like to clarify the story a bit. What was done with Duvall was a part of a process used by many horror directors back in the day, the idea being that the extra stressors the actor is under off screen shows up "in the face, in the eyes" onscreen to add another layer of realism. Shelley knew this going in, she agreed to it and understood the purpose and has never attacked Kubrick over this. What makes the incident so famous is that horror movies are usually shot in 6-10 weeks, what Kubrick and Duvall didn't think about was how long this shoot was going to be (13 months) and because this treatment lasted so freaking long, in her case it manifested with a significant physical and mental health decline over the months and because Kubrick and to a lesser extent Duvall were so hardcore in their approach to the character, nobody realized just how bad the unintended consequences were going to be until too late.
Weak
She couldn’t quit?
He literally told her to quit... He'd recast her if she couldn't handle it... She wanted the fame, the money, but couldn't handle the heat. Was she mistreated? I'd say so yeah. Was the rest of the cast? Yes, but they look back and love the experience. Love the movie, the art. And watching the movie, you can see it really brought out the best from the actors. So, stop being so damn dramatic about a topic you obviously know very little about.
Wow...i wonder how the wives of these men victim blaming are doing...
@@mary9983 hey guys, here's Mary with her holier than thou understanding of things because she's a strong woman
Actor: "What's my motivation?"
Stanley: "torture."
God broke the mold with Stanley…There will never be a director of his caliber ever again…I’m thankful he shared his gift with the world through his art & talent
Unironically using the phrase "God broke the mold" 🤮
Ben Kanobi: “No, there is another”
We don’t know who that’ll be but there’s always someone better, bigger, faster , smarter, etc
@@XxCreateFlowxX You're gay.
Bong Joon Ho
@@XxCreateFlowxX I apologize if I offended you…🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
Hands down, best film ever made.
I just realised that that second guy plays WILSON FISK in Daredevil. Holy moly. I wondered why he looked familiar. His voice is so different. Plus, you know. Hair.
In Full Metal Jacket, he didn't have much hair either 😁 That's Vincent D'Onofrio, and he played Private Pyle.
@@padmelotus Private Pyle you had better square yourself away & start shitting me Tiffany cufflinks or I will definitely fuck you up! One of my favorite movies 😁
Oh shit that's crazy
Rafterman is a beast once he gets a taste of action
I'd lose my mind 😅😂
Too late.
@@lewstone5430 true
Just revel in your insanity and enjoy it!
If people think that you are crazy, they don't like to bother you in case it trips you off.
I was crazy at one point in time, but now I am sane and I have the Court appointed Psychiatrist's letter to prove it!
Well that was about 16 years ago. Now, who knows?
@@markfryer9880 bruh
@@markfryer9880 seen crazy comments but this takes the cake for being self admitted with the court document to prove it !
One of the greatest movies of all time
Yeah so jack just go insane with the axe 💀
Through suffering, there is truth.
The great directors suffered and/or made others to suffer for their art. Friedkin, Kubrick, Kurosawa, Cameron, Spielberg...all.
Sam Peckinpah's another one.
Spielberg?
@@jesustovar2549
Can you not read?
Spielberg should not be there. He made some fun block busters, he isn't an Auteur anywhere near the level of the others you listed. Neither is Cameron. You're also only talking about Hollywood directors.
@@ploopy8780 Artificial Intelligence was originally supposed to be made by Kubrick until he passed. But Spielberg made it instead.
Also, Kubrick was objectively a Hollywood director and actively sought to make films that while extremely clever, could also be palatable for wider audiences.
I can understand the psychology behind the way he directs. But 100s of takes for one scene tho
It’s interesting how people are saying he’s a bad director when almost everyone that worked with him said he made them better actors
I love his movie named Apollo 11
Sounds like a real sadist
I saw a interview with Matt Damon who said they can't do these in depth and personal movies anymore with streaming. A movie company used to recoup 25-35% of costs on DVD sales on the back end. A movie could basically have a shitty theatre run, but still make money. Now the movie companies don't want to take a risk on good movies
Establishment Hollywood forgot it doesn't actually cost 20 million to make a movie. Tons of indies are made for under 10k.
@@r0b0hobo paranormal activity with a world wide box office of $200,000,000 and a budget of $15,000 in 2009 making it the most profitable movie in cinematic history. Is it possible again?? Sure!! Will a movie ever repeat that kind of profit vs investment... I just don't think so but who knows
@@1701basil I watched a movie shot on an iPhone that was better than the last Star Wars movie. Did it make a million dollars? No, who cares.
Man I remember the interview where he explains it on the wings thing but there's another actor who explained the bit but he went into more detail about the DVD still making money even years after the films initial release and that was a good chunk of all celeb and movie makers profits. Now we aren't seeing those sales come in years after release and it's destroying Hollywood
Love Stanley 😊
Jayne, the man they call Jayne!!! Browncoats forever!!!
tell em!
Jane really loves to talk back to his captain/director.
Full Metal Jacket was the epitome of emotions of Vietnam. All of it. From Gomer killing himself on the toilet to the Arvan pimp telling joker and rafterman his girl could smoke a cigarette with her p****. Stanley was way high over all the directors. Closes one would be Taylor Hackford. 🤔..
Full metal, platoon, and apocalypse now
@@Njbear7453 yes sir correct
The second half of FMJ was one of the movies of all time
My favorite war movie
A Top 3 movie for me !
No wonder Tom Cruise gave him a heart attack
Greatest director in the history of cinema..
All his movies were amazing. He must have done something right.
Stanley Kubrik: Hey Armstrong, can you pretend you weigh less?
And then we get the other soldiers impression of John Wayne which was great, maybe even ad libbed lol
In Stanley's defense, he is delivering those lines like %$#@!
Damn it Jayne
Don't tell 'em what I did!
What? Bad acting!!!
We LOVE Jayne, we don't trust him, but definitely love him.
Did you know Full Metal Jacket was filmed in England?
Yeah I read that in an article a few years ago. Something to do with Kubrick having a fear of flying.
Yup, they had do import and plant palm trees.... but it does look like Asia
Yeap. It was filmed mostly in an old factory grounds in England which was scheduled for ball wrecking for quite some time. Production did an incredible job of transforming the place into a believable war torn Vietnam city. They used special camera angles to transform that industrial landscape as a southeast Asia setting and props mimicking Viet street signboards, ads, architecture, and memorabilia to make it a believable place.
Did you know that the book The Short-Timers which the movie comes from, was written by Gustav Hasford - a Viet Nam marine war correspondent, who would later be sentenced to a short prison stint for taking out a hoard of books (more than 700, supposedly) from various libraries and never returning them?
Fun fact-The writer of Clockwork Orange hated how Kubrick directed his book
Full Metal Jacket is still a favorite of mine abt the Vietnam War, mostly bc of how he told it, esp @ Paris Island, where they trained the young men forghe war, average age being 19!! That means a lot if kids were in that war. Remember the song 19 from Paul Hardcastle, that was abt that subject, if you don't know it, on Spotify and on here probably, you can find it there, bit of a remix kind of song, but some of the spoken lyrics are from actual soldiers.
Animal Mother was awesome 😅
I LOVE IT
One thing about Stanley he had no BS whatsoever if you're a big time movie star if he doesn't satisfy on your acting he would say it to your face infront of everybody else.
Great director... Don't articulate what you're looking for, just tell them to do it again but different.
Seems like the best way to go.
Kubrick knew what he was doing full metal jacket is a classic a masterpiece
this is just my teacher keep telling me write it better lol
FMJ took all the Vietnam retro flicks and faced im up.
So Stanley had no idea what he was looking for LOL
Kubrick 😎
We frequently see many great artists act in this way- Ravel called his musicians “slaves,” a few modern-day actors have been revealed to be incredibly hostile towards their crew, and if anything, it shows their inability to get out of their own head, and Kubrick is no exception. It is widely known how much his presence had on people in a negative way (I am referencing Shelley Duvall), and a few people who lack understanding of life call this “weakness” in the actor. This is not true.
Yes, these people create great art, but lots of the great art we have today has been created with certain trade-offs that are extremely questionable and somewhat unnecessary.
Stop regurgitating this rumor that has been debunked by Shelley herself in many interviews and many cast/crew members (there's a documentary by Vivian that is a making of and one of interviews with the crew where they mention Stanley not being abusive to her) or Lee Unkrich's book on The Shining or Michael Cimet's book on Kubrick. Almost all of these dispel the Shelley hoax, which is the 1 (!!!!) time almost every points to in lieu of all the other actors he worked with.
Imagine telling Kingpin that he fucked up
It's almost like acting is a profession that people train and educate themselves to do. And part of working on a team is being specialized.
Damn I thought that first dude was lex Luger
Glad I'm not the only one
Sounds like Kubrick!
Stanleys best piece....the moon landing.
Kubrick's family have repeatedly rebuked the outlandish fantasy that he had something to do with faking the Apollo Landings and have expressed their disgust at those who spread these lies. His daughter Vivian has asked conspiracy theorists (she refers to them as "malicious cranks") to stop using her fathers name in this way and said that what they say is "is manifestly a grotesque lie". Her open letter to moon landing deniers is easily found online. Please think about this and respect the family's wishes. Take care.
So now we know what Jayne was doing before Firefly...
What?
@@ginge641 look it up lol
@@Fatherofheroesandheroines My guy, what is there to look up?
@@ginge641 ok I'm not gonna just GIVE you the test answers lol. Look at what I wrote...look it up. No instant gratification for you! Lol
I’m directing a stage production and I always make sure that my actors are able to analyse their character during the first rehearsal and use that information to decide how their character moves. All I ask of them is to be at a spot for a line, how they get there is up to them. This allows them to be more engaged and help them feel more involved than just acting. They get to direct themselves, and I direct the show :)
One of the best things I heard from Sean Penn on Inside the Actors Studio. Hates over directing. “You hired me, let me do my thing…”
He's a notorious asshole though, isn't he? Never heard a good thing about the guy.
Well, the hundreds of takes that Kubrick is known for could be considered OVER-directing
@@bOmBAsTiK Yeah. Kubrick seemed like a huge asshole.
That scene actually kinda stands out in the movie as not the best acting lol.
When I watch full metal jacket I actually normally only watch the boot camp part and then call it quits. That’s the best part of the movie for me. Far out the drill Sargent is funny
Justice for shelley duvall
You never know what take the director will use. You guess it’s the last one. Good guess. But the editing room vibe is different than the on set vibe. As an actor you might have just thrown one out there to get yourself moving and the director chooses your warm up! Hey whatever. The pay is other worldly so if the director says “let’s go again!” You go again and again
Why did I think Vincent Dinafrio was Mark Ruffalo the first time I watched this?
Huh, only just realised that's Adam Baldwin from Firefly/Serenity
Oh yeah sounds legendary
Ok, Adam, do it like ur madly in love
Rafterman!
Say what y’all want but Kubricks films were dope af
Well yeah, who is arguing about that?
😆I think that actor was the first to tire Kubrick out.
Stanley finally broke....."FUCK IT!! WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!!"
The actors say that Kubrick is a perfectionist, and he himself denies this.
Stanley Kubrick's style of directing as well as the atmosphere of his movies was never my preference, because his perspective is cold and unfeeling, and that attitude permeates throughout the whole production process.
Act you like been having an intimate relationship with your sister for 15yrs.... And Action!
Seems Kubrick came from the old gaurd of movie making
"KUBRICK" There's speculation that Stanley Kubrick was murdered?.......
I've seen some on TV