SUB $200 KINETIC RECOVERY ROPE SHOOTOUT | K72 ROPES, DEADMAN OFFROAD, IRONMAN 4X4, VICOFFROAD
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- Опубликовано: 2 янв 2022
- Here are the kinetic ropes we tested.
K72 - Kinetic Recovery Rope 7/8"
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K72 Soft Shackles
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Deadman Offroad - The Deadman Stretchy Band
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Deadman Soft Shackle
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Ironman 4x4 - Kinetic Snatch Rope
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Ironman 4x4 - Soft Shackle
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VicoOffroad - Fiery Red Kinetic Recovery Rope
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The flex in the low pro bumper on the 4runner was a little concerning to me.
Same, frame might be a better spot
I was watching that too
Same here
I saw that too! I'm not sure I would use those recovery points. They need to be lower, more inclined with the mounting bolts. The bumper itself is probably really good, but cut those recovery points off. And that wasn't even a real recovery!
Very much so. I pointed it out to Trevor in the video.
I think you guys would have much different results in a true recovery scenario where most likely all 4 tires are buried and not just the one. In one shot the vehicle being recovered can be seen moving prior to the rope receiving tension which could aide in the overall feel once the rope became tight. Also the recovery vehicle is also in soft sand with slow momentum which doesn't collect a whole lot of kinetic energy coupled with the bull bar having lots of give. These would all change how the recovery felt. A test of all 4 tires buried and the recovery vehicle on solid ground would definitely bring to light how the ropes react and feel.
I really want to like these guys but every review they do is half ass. They really don’t test anything. Who uses a bull bar to pull on. If that truck had been truly stuck it would have ripped right off the front. I agree with everything you said.
Thank you for doing this video. I just bought the Ironman rope and shackles through your link. I appreciate not just this video, but the other ones, too. :-) Subscribed and liked!!!!
That is so awesome. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it!!!!
Great job guys! I just bought a F-150 and will be building it up for mild overland and trail use. Having a lot of fun watching and learning from your content. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!!!
Don’t forget, when you buy a Drivers Returning On Foot it’s your own doing.
That 4r bumper looks like it’s going to get pulled off after all those tries 😬
That front bumper on the 4runner had some serious flex while being pulled out.
Great video. I have a Bubba Rope in my box, fortunately I haven't had to use it yet. Keep up the good work guys!!
Thanks man. Trevor and I both agree that something is better than nothing. I’ve heard good things about bubba rope.
Thanks for video! I'm in the market so it will help me decide. Looks like 4runner bumper moves when pulled
Thanks guys great review! Now I know what rope to buy to pull out Tacoma‘s!
Man for 199$ you can get a 7/8in 30 foot yankum rope…
Hey man where is that for sale at?
Need to buy one...thanks for sharing! For me, it will be budget dollars and it doesn't appear anything failed. 🇺🇸🍻
Individual manufactures limits on MBS will effect the "softness". Depending on how close the rated MBS is to actual MBS the feel will vary. I have seen ropes way over rated and they will not spring enough for the vehicle paired to that weight range. Also you will see differences between cheaper Nylon6 vs Nylon66 ropes in terms of lifespan.
Great video. My kinetic rope is one of my most used recovery items. In fact, I'm ready to retire my current one and replace it with a new one! Cheers!
Awesome.
Awesome video great content
Thank you very much!
The bull bar really flexes when it's pulled on, and those did not look like very hard pulls
Cool video, can you test the Yankum rope?
Looks like that 4Runner bumper is about get pulled off with all that flex.
Right. Not good at all.
Got that kinetic bumper too
i"m getting a roped in feeling already
Voodoo offroad makes awesome ropes and they have 38% stretch as opposed to all others I see that are 30%
Very high breaking strengths too!
Thanks for doing the video. Curious as to the material of the Victory bumper you guys are running. Is that the steel or aluminum version?
It’s the aluminum version and Trevor isn’t very happy with it.
So for the Vico you would need a yeti or Patagonia Black hole waterproof bag
Your 1st pull, the 4runner can be seen moving right before the tension takes place from the pull. Not the 1st close up angle but the second ariel angle is where it can be seen. Rerun the test. ...in texas mud.
Could y'all test out some Rhinousa stuff
These are all nothing more than double braided nylon with splices sewn in. A couple more good snatches and that bumper on the four runner is going to be an amazing flying weapon.
Great video guys, one thing I would mention maybe going forward is how kinetic energy ropes are sized. Knowing the weight of the vehicle you are pulling out and what the breaking strength is important. Most ropes are sized with a 3:1 safety factor, so say your vehicle weighs 7000lbs, you would need something sized up to 21,000lbs so that you will get the stretch you need, sizing is incredibly important. If you choose a strap that is to large and has a higher breaking point, you will find that you don’t get the stretch you need from a kinetic rope and it will act more like a static strap that doesn’t have the give that is needed in a dynamic pull therefore casing damage to the bumper on either the pulling vehicle or the stuck vehicle. Also, like you mentioned, the softer strap/rope can allow dirt and sand to enter the interior of the rope. However, the sheath on your deadman rope is a better option which is harder and more tightly woven, which keeps the dirt and sand out of the interior of the rope. Again, great job guys and thanks for doing this.
Not quite accurate. A rolling pull is not equal to a lift. If there was an easy way to measure the pulling load, I think anyone would be surprised at how light it would be compared to a dead lift.
I think, for the money, the Ironman is the best.
If you can center pull, it’s a 40,000 15’ rope.
If you need 30 to reach, the 20’ are going to be a problem.
Throw in the nice storage bag, and the better protection vs the most expensive rope, and I think it is the clear winner.
20’ vs 30’ obviously depends on your needs for the recovery, but you’ll have much more energy in a 30 foot rope than a 20 foot rope. Maybe a video that separates them by length as well for comparison
Thank you for doing all the testing. I also watched the recovery boards one. I have a question, what's the difference between using a stretchy rope over just a tow strap?
@4x3Lander yes it does. Thank you so much for the explanation
@4x3Lander same here. I went to the overland expo in Colorado last August and I've seen dead man's products 1st hand and really liked them. I think that's going to be my choice
The kinetic rope /stretch rope has give so you can get a running start at the pull to get velocity behind the rope. Tow straps are static and don’t give at all. If you tried to pull a rig out with a tow strap you have to take all the slack out and pull slow. With the kinetic you want to be moving pretty good when the rope catches. If you tried that with a tow strap you would pull off a bumper with the shock. Hope I explained it okay.
Others have described it well.
One other thing to remember with a dynamic rope, if something does break, you just made a 20-30’(+ 30%) slingshot.
Let’s see if you guys can pull this off. 🍻
K72 Ropes are the best!! :)
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Looking forward to this review, it's been on my shopping list for some time, and I just don't know enough about them to know which to get. #batedbreath
Did you guys see the flex of the 4Runner center line winch bumper? You can bolt a recovery point to the frame and not bend the bumper.
Yea that was crazy. Definitely looking into frame mounted recovery point.
This video was knot what I was roping for. 😂
Fraid knot.
Hahaha. Good one.
Bought the 30' Fireyred on amazon for $62 (without soft shckles)
Who makes that Lo pro bumper? So I know which one not to buy!!
What specific model bumper is on the 4r?
Great job on the info...
Fyi.. i noticed as you yank the white toyota from the passenger side of the bumper.. that bumper has a ton of flex.. review your video
Yea I noticed it. Trevor has never been all that happy with the Victory 4x4 bumper. Looks good. Not strong.
I'm sure the video will stretch our imagination & knowledge LOL
Thanks for this review. It would be very helpful if you can compare the uses of kinetic rope vs tow strap vs carrying a winch rope. Situations where you’d use okie out the other. With limited space in my vehicle and no option to add a winch I’d prefer to carry one. Secondly a shout-out of tow straps and winch ropes would be great as well. Keep up the good work!!
A tow strap is only used for towing, not recovery. And you wouldn't want to use a kinetic rope for towing because it's going to store energy and act like a rubber band. Realistically, you should have one of each at all times but in a pinch you could use either one for either purpose with the realization that you'll likely ruin them and put yourself in an unsafe situation
Thank you very much.
I agree. There definitely are time where a dynamic rope isn’t the best option.
Extended pulls being better for a static strap.
Let me know if you want to try out the best. GearAmerica Kinetic Rope is 100% sourced and made in the USA, 28,500 lb capacity and less than $200!
A normal rope or strap would have worked in the case you tried. On one or two spots your stuck SUV was moving before the rope was tight because he hit the gas early.
Why not try this, Hook truck to truck one on hard ground the other soft and apply pressure to see how much stretch and action the rope has? Measure the distance to see. That would tell you how much energy is stored by the amount of stretch. Good one will have several feet of stretch, others a foot or less. You could also do it with a winch and fixed object like a tree, apply pressure and see now much stretch before you start to slide the back axle with brakes locked.
You need to test these where the truck is fully bogged and you need to give it absolutely everything 2-4 times to work out if the ropes any good.
I don’t necessarily agree with you. I think that if you give a rope a couple good pulls and it handles the weight well and doesn’t show any signs of abuse it should be a solid rope. It is very hard on a rig to be doing the pulling and to be pulled. No need to tear up a vehicle to do that kind of testing just to end up with the same result. I could be wrong though.
I'm shopping for a low pro winch bumper for my 5th gen 4 runner. What brand is the one in the video? I would like to get something a little sturdier.
It’s the Ironman 4x4 synthetic line monster winch. Also look at the Smittybilt XRC Gen 3 winch. Pretty awesome.
I'd like to know the before and after length to see if they permanently stretched. Thanks!
That is a good question. If they were any longer I would be surprised if it was more than a couple inches. I didn’t measure before but if I get a new rope I’ll test it.
Stretches up to 30% in pull. Supposedly as long as you dont use the rope for long pulls it wont permanently stretch the kinetic ropes.
I don't mind the dark colors, actually prefer them. I would not buy a rope that was bright colors, like yellow, orange, etc. Just my opinion obviously. I dig the black rope.
The 4Runner’s front bumper has a lot of give when pulled???
Way too much.
I’m surprised your bumper survived this exercise.😳
The K72 looks like a Cobra
Please make a below $200 led fog lights
If I may say 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I haven't watched to the end yet, but does that Toyota aftermarket bumper get torn off?? 😵💫
I think it's a kinetic bumper lol😂
No but it’s scary how much it flexes.
@@AdventureBuilt I've seen other Toyota's in videos where it looks like the frame flange that you bolt the bumper to is pretty thin 😱
Is that a kinetic recovery bumper? I thought this video was about the ropes!
Haha. Absorbs shock well.
3 min into vid for first rope he was moving forward before the rope even had slack out of it! For the iron man. watch the vid in slow motion is the towing point supposed to have that much flex? Do they all come with soft shackles or not? thanks!
I’m sure the 4Runner just moved forward shifting in the sanding hole it was in and yea it is suppose to have a lot of slack out of the rope. You want to have momentum before the rope catches to use the force to help with recovery. That is why the rope stretches so much.
You need to relocate your recovery points. That bumper is going to get ripped off at some point.
I'm no expert. But I would definitely recommend not exceeding the working load limit of your Kinetic rope. I'm sure somebody out. There has a calculation that you can determine a working load off of a brake strength load.
I'm sure it will be a snappy video LOL
Is that a victory low pro bumper?
Yes
What about 20 feet vs 30 feet? I think 30 feet because more kinetic power plus more safe because since further away less chance of getting ploweded into.
20 or 30 feet have different use cases. Usually you want the longer rope in the sand and snow. Shorter rope on technical rocky terrain
Should use a bridle. Otherwise good vid!
No mention of Factor55?
Yea unfortunately we can’t test all the brands. We just kinda collected what we had and a couple that I liked.
I carry the deadman because it says don't forget about me .
If I may say 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Also if you were real stuck looking at that bumper it’ll come off before you snap a Chinese strop
Whose red and blue soft shackle is that??
Nm. Looks like guardian changed their shackles. They’re not like that anymore.
Gear America US made all the way
20ft or 30ft…which size is suggested?
Depends how far away you are. There's no right or wrong answer. Sometimes you have a lot of room to work with, sometimes you don't.
Depends on your preference but I think longer is better but it’s more rope to store and carry around.
you guys should check out rhino USA kinetic ropes. 20' X 7/8" is rated for 30.5K and it's $99.99. comes with a bag and a ton of their stickers. I bought the neon green one and love it so far.
oh and they have a 5/8" X 20' or a 1" X 30' rope (rated for 34.3K)
The "Chino USA" is NOT made in the USA but communist China. WAKE UP!
Why at 3.03mims did the truck bieng towed move before the rope tightened? And the wheels weren't buried to the axle 🙄
During the testing Trevor is doing a lot of brake on brake off. We do our best to bury his truck each time but there are still holes in the sand that his truck settles into. It was probably adjusting into one of the holes. It might look like one pull but we actually have to do multiple pulls to get the different camera angles and drone. There is a lot going on but we do the best testing we possibly can.
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You should NEVER stretch the truth about any KInetic Rope story LOL
Lol I have a $50 kinetic rope that I've used like 20 times and works great
What brand ?
@@emmanuelmota1 I think QIQU, think the price went up a bit, but I got a 7/8 x 20' for about $50 and it's been great. I think it's about $90 for a 30' one now
LMFAO once again- not even stuck. Doesn’t give a true review when the 4Runner is at a rolling start. GET TRUELY STUCK LMAO
Were all of the ropes ⅞”? I hope that everyone knows, when it comes to kinetic ropes and straps, bigger is not better. They should be sized to the vehicle. Too big and it won’t have the proper stretch/kinetic properties.
Good call. Something I didn’t cover in the video. I’ll hit on it in the next video. Thanks.
Bubba rope, can't go wrong. The flex in that bumper is concerning, the shackle mounts are way too high.
Agreed
This is a pretty weak test if you ask me. And you better do something about the bumper on the 4 runner the way it flexes.
The Vic off-road recovery rope video clip I am very not impressed if one is stuck. To the axle rock it back and forth get the pumpkin buried in the sand dirt mud Rock
U forgot about the yankum rope
Is there a Yankum rope under $200
@@jerryrig8648 yes the 7/8 kinetic is $169 on their site
China is famous for the packaging. Looks so nicely packed in. But you'll never ever ever ever get it back in the box or back
You guys barely hit the ropes. Let me ask you this. Would you hang your vehicle off the side of a mountain with any of those ropes? And also how come you didn’t add Yankam ropes?
The pulls felt pretty hard. I hope to never have to hang my rig off a cliff. If that happened I would assume a winch line would be the appropriate tool for that scenario. I didn’t add Yankam only because I just didnt think about them for this video. Definitely could add if I do another test. Thanks.
Iron man is made in south africa 🇿🇦
I'm not impressed on the first section of the video he was driving out of the holes made with the back tires his front tires we're still on top of sand four-wheel drive was working just fine he drove out before the tug
2 grown men who talk like a top 40 female radio DJ. Jesus
Gregor I appreciate your insight and would really like to meet you at an expo. Also, we are brothers.
@@AdventureBuilt I appreciate the sarcasm. N THE THREAT!
Toyota wasn’t even stuck on the very first rope! If you watch the drone angle, it was moving before the rope was even tightened! Come on guys- peoples lives could depend on your reviews, do it right.
As I have stated multiple times on this topic we try our best to dig the truck for every pull but some holes are offset from the other and settling happens when you take your foot off the brake. The entire process of shooting these pulls takes multiple takes. We do the best we can.
How can you call durability when you do one test? The most important information is the rope rupture load and you did not test it. The longer the rope, ( in this case 50%) the stress is reduce on the fiber for the same load. This test is only a product promotion done by smiling 🤡.
So you are saying you liked it!!!
Sub $200 some of this overlanding stuff is just stupid such as calling a tow rope kinetic and tripling the price ....I delt with oil field recovery for years and a 200 rope from the farm store will drag a loaded kenworth ...a rope in the range tested should be in the 30-60 buck range
Pretty weak stuck job tho. Need a weight meter to show how much it's pulling. A regular nylon rope woulda pulled that lil suv
Broken links.
Would you two just kiss and get it over with?
This has to be laziest attempt at a test I've ever seen. A riding lawnmower coulda almost pulled out that vehicle with ONE WHEEL stuck 🤦♂️ .. Once it was even moving on its own b4 the rope was even tight. If you're gonna do something, then do it right. 20 minutes wasted.
Made in China…does Biden get a commision for each sale?
If you are going to do a review on recovery at least get the vehicle actually STUCK first. Like someone else noticed the "stuck" vehicle started moving befoore the rope got tight. I gave you a thumbs down for that reason.
Honestly we did the very best we could to get Trevor’s 4Runner really stuck. It doesn’t always work out. The sand we have out here has the finest amount of pebble in it which makes it pack really well. The testing was to see if the kinetic ropes could pull the weight of the vehicle with the shock load to be able to get them out of a hole. Being literally stuck is a bit inconsequential to the function of the kinetic ropes. I’m sorry you didn’t feel that it was up to your standard of testing.
This is the weakest "test" I've ever seen