I watched it in the cinema last night and I’ve never seen any Bruce Lee film in the cinema after viewing them 100s of times…. It was absolutely magical! It was such a strange experience watching it knowing every beat of the film and it feeling fresh on the big screen. The energy when Bruce is on screen was magnificent as always but on a cinema screen - wonderful. I did notice at the cinema that some of the scenes in Enter the Dragon the cinematography isn’t that great - some scenes are blurred to be honest and there’s no recovering that whatever the format. All the Bruce scenes pin point sharp and the colours in the cinema on the 4k was magnificent. When the film finished you could feel the warm and buzz from people leaving the cinema - talking about how good Bruce was. Lovely intro from Shannon in the cinema on the film - that would’ve been nice on this release. I’ve not watched the 4k yet as delayed it due to seeing it in the cinema. I’d actually say it’s the most fun I’ve ever had in a cinema - very cherished trip
I’m off to the cinema Sunday to watch it looking forward to it, haven’t seen it in the cinema for 40 years, saw it when it came out in 73 I was 11 The Grand would let anyone in, like you Iv had it on VHS 📼 DVD 📀 Blue Ray 📀 but to watch it in the cinema again 👍🥷🙏 set me back 50yrs , going to love every minute of it 👍🥷
@@jonathanaldecoa1099 lucky I picked up the tickets 🎟️ yesterday the showing is 3/4s full, there must be a lot of sad bastards like us out there lol 😂 enjoy it 👍 I know I will 👍🥷
I too would love Arrow having a go at doing “Enter The Dragon “ 4k ….they would blow Warners away!.now I will be searching my other copies to see if indeed this 4k has been cut
From the BBFC RE: Enter The Dragon 2023 release - "In order for its policies to remain relevant and in tune with public feeling, the BBFC regularly reviews and adjusts them accordingly when issuing a new set of Guidelines. In 1999, the BBFC embarked on its first extensive consultation process with the public, in order to gauge public taste, attitudes and concerns on various issues relevant to film and other audio-visual media. In the same year, in light of this change to a more context-based, proportionate approach to classification issues, the past distinction between martial arts and other weapons was abandoned. This meant that in 2001, Enter The Dragon was classified at 18 for video, with all previous cuts (both to violence and weapons) fully restored. Now, depictions of offensive weapons, or glamourous and detailed depictions of violent techniques, are still liable for cuts - or are refused classification - if they are considered to promote illegal behaviour in the real world. However, such instances are rare. In its most recent submission to the BBFC for video release in 2023, Enter The Dragon was re-classified at 15, along with the content advice of: ‘strong violence, sexual threat, nudity, sex references’. At 15, our Guidelines on the issue of violence state that: ‘Violence may be strong but should not dwell on the infliction of pain or injury.’ Against these current standards, the violence in Enter The Dragon lacks the visual detail that would warrant the adult category. The sound of bones being broken and brief blood spurts implying slashes with knives accompany largely masked uses of martial arts and weaponry, leaving much to the imagination of viewers. Other issues that contribute to the 15 classification also include strong sex references and nudity, pertaining to female breast and buttock nudity in the context of sex work, as well as the implication of group sex having taken place; although the latter does not take place on-screen. Also significant at 15 in Enter The Dragon is the issue of sexual threat. BBFC Guidelines reflect the sensitive nature of issues relating to sexual violence, sexual threat and other sexually abusive behaviour, which our research with the public has highlighted. A scene from the film depicts a prolonged flashback sequence in which a woman is pursued by a gang of men. Their intention is of a sexual nature, but the focus on the threat is not so strong or sustained that it would have warranted a higher classification".
Great review. It's easy to have rose tinted glasses when watching your favourite film but your honesty is refreshing. Warners are not the only ones who treat their significant releases so poorly. Mgm do the same with the Rocky franchise. Enter the Dragon has made Warner $2 billion, so for a 50th anniversary its a bit piss poor. Still, looking forward to seeing it on the big screen next week...
They have put Bruce’s voice on the mono channel, Stripey ( and cleaned it up ). American release get a digital code for the extras ( and No BluRay). I like the PQ. Criterion’s looked grainy and over-exposed, so I’m very happy with it and it’s less than £20 ( most new 4Ks are £25 at HMV ). Importantly, the press release says it’s scanned from the original camera negative, so it is as good as it can be.
Awesome, I look forward to giving that a listen. The picture does look good, & seemed to improve as the film progressed, but I was expecting a little more tbh. 👍
I've gone Betamax to 4k 😅 first time we watched it was when ITV showed the full uncut version. Love to see Arrow get the chance to do a 4k of it. I'm on Way of the Dragon disk, watched the Japanese version last night 😊
This is one of the most important and impactful action films ever released. I don't think there is anything wrong with expecting warner to do something special to commemorate the 50th anniversary of it's release. It is nice to get the 4K release, but some extras that haven't already been released twenty times would have been nice.
Reason for the different age ratings on the discs bbfc gave both Theatrical and Special Edition cuts a new age 15 rating on 17th July 2023 It's only the UHD that is a new disc pressing. Special Edition cut in 2001 was given age 18 rating by bbfc As the Blu-ray is the 40th Anniversary disc (Special Edition cut) from 2013 that's why that has 18 It's a existing disc pressed before 2023 Slipcover has 18 as it includes the existing pressed Blu-ray disc rated age 18.
Any grain removal is an eyebrow raiser for me, that really shouldn't be tampered with because that's where all the detail is. I have to say, I don't typically care for comparisons filmed off of a TV when I see them, as I think it's really hard to make a good judgement and presentation that way, BUT... you've done easily the best version of that I've ever seen. Very slickly shot and framed, and it did give a decent idea of the differences between the two transfers, so I have to give you credit for that 👍
I watched enter the dragon at the cinema the other day i found this 4k version quite blury tbo. My normal dvd was a lot clearer don't know why maybe it's to do with the big screens. But I still enjoyed it the sound was fantastic. "Mr Lee, why you no wear uniform" love it 😁👍
@benpascall4297 No my dvd setup is fine I've not got the 4k ETD on dvd I watched enter the dragon at the cinema in 4k I found it blury. My old ETD dvd was a lot clearer
@stevenbaldwin7241 I found the same, the picture quality was disappointing. I see a lot of so called 4k restoration reissues at the cinema, and they can be a little grainy. Think 4k is often over-hyped.
@@stevenbaldwin7241 so you’re commenting on the 4k Blu ray edition based on the cinema restoration? Also, could you define ‘clear’? When you mean clear, do you mean free of grain? If yes, I’d seriously question that as grain is often more prevalent in a 4k restoration, but is also a part of the original shot on film look. If something looks more ‘clear’ in comparison, it’s possible that it’s also been scrubbed of grain, using DNR, which also scrubs away other detail in the picture. I refute any claims that DVD looks better than any 4k restoration. Unless the 4k is a complete balls up, which this isn’t, it’s simply not possible purely based on a technical level and the number of pixels and data on screen.
@benpascall4297 The cinema 4k version was like watching a film on TV, and then if you put TV on HD that's what my dvd is like if you know what I mean. Like I said I've not bought ETD 4k edition yet but I will. And I no for a fact it will be a lot clearer than my normal dvd. It's just the cinema version I found it blury not so much grainy. If you do go and watch it at the cinema you will know what I mean.
Thanks stripey cos of you I wss able to catch it at my local cinema this evening otherwise I would have missed it..didn't know it was at the cinema. Print was decent still would have loved to see what arrow would have done on it.. Their work on the big boss is mind blowing. I swear I would have thought it was filmed recently that's how pristine it looks
I think all the discs should be sent back to Warner with a huge boot up their arses and told to sort it out. Words escape me for this release. Hope you're well Stripey my friend. 🙏
"underwhelmed" is exactly what I thought on first viewing. While not perfect it's probably the best this movie looks at present. I only the 40th anniversary bluray to compare with, not the Criterion, even so it's quite obvious how much an improvement this version is over that one. I think maybe like you Stripey I had high expectations, plus having spent the last few days trawling through the arrow boxset I have been spoilt with the overall PQ with Big Boss & Fist of Fury in particular. Good review sir, and keep up the great work.
Thanks, fella. The picture quality on BB & FOF on the Arrow set, is stunning. So I had high expectations for ETD, & although it does look as good as I've seen it, I think Arrow would have done a much better job (in my humble opinion). cheers pal 👍
Enjoyed your veiw on the 50th of Enter The Dragon. I have a 1982 VHS version, I bought in 1985 when my local video shop closed down. I think you would appreciate it more than myself.
Thank you for your honest words. I think your criticisms are spot on. Again, Warner Bros. released a lacklustre product showing only the bare minimum of effort. And you have to keep in mind that the US release doesn’t even come with a Blu-ray! For a standard 70ies film this would be an OK product with a solid picture quality (albeit missing Dolby Vision) but given the film historical significance of Enter The Dragon this is a cheap shot by WB. And I’m not really surprised taking into account their missteps (mainly in the sound department) with the 4k box sets of the Rocky and the Superman movies. While “celebrating” their 100th anniversary they are not able (or willing) to come up with one single new special for THE martial arts movie that influenced the industry and the world? Not even at its 50th anniversary? You are absolutely right: They just don’t care - and it shows. This release should have come with at least a new commentary track and a new feature length documentary about the movie, the genre and about Bruce Lee. Just imagine what Arrow would have done with this. Or if the inhouse job was a must they could have delegated ETD to their small but superb team behind The Warner Archive Collection. In short: I'm happy to have ETD in a quality that's at least a technical reflection of our time but the product as a whole is underwhelming and (as you put it so aptly) just disrespectful.
Thank you for an honest review. On another note, why are the majority of americans claiming it is fantastic? I know its subjective, however, the general thinking in the UK is that it isnt great which i agree it isnt. Is it because reviewers in the US are only on YT for money with views and affiliate links?, To me thats the way its looking.
The BBFC have previously stated they can't re-classify a film if previously issued a certificate. Re-classification normally occurs if the length of the film has changed e.g. Alien Director's cut. But both cuts of ETD were previously 18 so...😵💫
That was me that said the Eyes (Monkeys Probably) were In the Food Bucket Williams Lifts the lid up on, then rocks back shaking His head. So It Is not there again. There Is a Steel Box coming In September with Three more Minutes added. So all the cuts have hopefully been put back In. Thanks for sharing this one. I'll wait for the Steel Box one.
New subscriber,love you Bruce Lee videos..in regards to Atmos id highly recommended getting a proper Atmos setup using the over head speakers if you can afford it and more importantly have the room for it..hearing the Atmos in Enter The Dragon is amazing almost like watching the movie for the first time..a couple of highlights like the plane actually flying overhead at the start and the girls flicking the knives into the fruit..hearing the knifes impale the fruit up over your head makes the investment well worth it.they really put so much effort into the Atmos yet i bearley ever hear anyone mentioning the overhead affects
Cool video thanks for that! The only “Enter The Dragon” release I will be buying will be if and when Warner Brothers dig through their archives and find the Henry Wong footage if it still exists. The Arrow box set is really great!
In respect of BBFC, whenever a new version is introduced, which includes a 4k version, or an uncut / extended version, it has to be re-submitted to the BBFC. The BBFC will certify based on its rules at the time, but what they won’t do is re-certify any previous versions if they decided to allocate a new classification for the latest release. John Wick 2 is a good example, 15 in cinemas and on Bluray, but 18 on 4k as it was uncut and certain darker scenes were more visible on 4k.
I do agree with you Stripey. You can garentee, they've ( Warner Bros) left something out,just so they can squeeze another ETD release in the future. The ultimate edition or something. I love ETD, but,I love. Fist of fury grudgingly,just that wee bit more. Mind you,as long as Bruce Lee is in it. For example,I remember years ago,I was getting ready to go the pub to meet my buddies. Marlowe with James Garner was on. I was just about to switch it off,to got to the pub,just at that moment, Bruce Lee was on the movie. Wow! At the time,I didn't know he was in it. Anyway,I was late getting to the pub. Cheers again Stripey. All the best from Bonnie Scotland.
Thanks for your review Stripey. Iam getting Enter the Dragon 4k. next week. I really enjoyed your review. i`ve got a Sony projektor that can fix the brightnes problem, "i hope". And as this is a 50th anniversary 4k, you are right, it`s disappointing, where is the new extras. nothing at all, zero !!! Come on Warner, a big box set with a lot of goodies ,because ETD is a Classic.
Thank you Warner Bros for your absolute commitment to promoting the 50th anniversary of Bruce Lee in such a generous and thoughtful way. Your decision to not allow Arrow box set to include this version of Enter the Dragon and instead release this turgid, bare bones edition really serves up a treat for the fans… all those duplicated extra features from years gone by… wow. Truly a shite and disrespectful tribute. Nice review Stripey, it showed the low standards of Warner bros in relation to Bruce Lee releases. What a features light release from Warner. Seeing Enter the Dragon Tuesday at the cinema too…🤙 that’s a much much bigger deal for me. Thank God for Arrow Bruce Lee boxset too. That was 5 star release.
I think its something to do with submitting it to the bbfc. Eg with the big boss they only needed to summit the altered longer mandarin cut as the normal version had already be classified. If they submitted the normal big boss again it would probably get a 15, something like that probably went on with enter the dragon.
I'll be watching Enter the Dragon this Saturday at the Prince Charles theatre. I was 3 years old when the film was released in the 70s. Great review, could be lazy correction correction from scene to scene, by Warners .
Thank you for your thoughts. I share your views 100 percent! One thing I wish they would release is a digital version of the theatrical release. I would love that if I could watch that on streaming apps. I do not like the additional scenes as they seem to detract from Lee's character having self mastery already in place as opposed needing to listen toJohn Little's American sounding fortune cookie wisdom
Before buying this 4K edition I only had the 2007 Warner release (the one with the pinkish cover) so I cannot speak to the Criterion edition...but to my eyes (and ears) this is an absolutely cracking upgrade. As you say, there are a few scenes (or cuts within the scenes) at the start where the detail is not great but comparing to the previous release I assume this is the fault of the source material (those bits look like DVD quality on that 2007 release as well)...once the movie gets going though, the picture (especially the colours) is gorgeous and a joy to look at...I never realised how drab my 2007 release looked until I saw this. The sound is also a huge improvement...the music is lush, detailed and has great range (I have a pretty decent sound system) and I have no complaints at all. I agree, it would have been nice if the release mentioned the 50th anniversary and maybe came with a booklet or something but overall I think this is a great release and well worth a purchase 😀👍
Hi stripey why have you got 2 ETD dvds which one is that in the background to the left. Because I will be buying this soon and I want the best version 👍👍
Great sum up & you are absolutely right with everything Stripey as always buddy. I personally felt it wasn’t much different from my blu ray on 4K upscale. I have to say & ask at same time looking at warners other releases as a part of 50 years example the exorcist they have gone full throttle but for some reason enter the dragon has some sort of bar on artwork & additional footage, there is buckets of footage out there of ETD but mmmmm 🤔 I don’t even think Linda Lee & Shannon lee has made a big deal , let’s find out WHY ???? But mate regards respect for the breakdown 🤛🏻
A different channel when reviewing the Warner Bros discs made a comment that the blu-ray would be region locked. Is that correct, or is it unlocked in this edition?
I'll just be sticking with the old blu ray for now lol i don't have 4k and tbh ETD doesn't look that much different than the nice Criterion release , think Fist of fury was the best transfer for the Arrow release it was amazing ! great review on the quality .. I'm contemplating a cinema visit on Sat myself to watch the 4k version on the big screen .
Fist of Fury does look incredible, mate. I was blown away. I'm looking forward to ETD on Tuesday at the cinema. Treat yourself, Steve, it could be a while before we see a cinema release again. cheers pal 👍
I watched it in 4k at the cinema, it was fucking great. I've seen it 100s of times on every format going. Never looked better! Was surprised to see it was a 15 but having just re-watched it for the first time in a while the nudity is barely there, I thought they'd cut it to be honest. Funny how times change. I have 5 versions of the soundtrack, it was banging at the cinema.
@@StripeyR Yeah deffo. I've always been a big fan of cinema but all those years of watching it on TV or shitty VHS copies of US versions or the later VHS/DVD uncut releases didn't quite prepare me for the impact on the big screen. I liked the intro from his daughter too, nice touch. You can tell this was relatively big budget, compared to a lot of other martial arts films from the period. I was left last night wondering what else he would have done, had he not died. I liked the direction GoD took and I've always thought the BL cut was a phenomenal piece of work. Only 8 people in the screening last night!
@@orbtastic We didn't get the Shannon intro, It just went straight into the movie. The theater was quite full, but not packed. But seeing ETD on a big screen is definitely the way to go. Cheers fella 👍
@@StripeyR Weird. Maybe it's the chain? I searched for it in my area and Vue (ex WB) were the only one showing it and they only had ONE showing this entire week. Cos I did the booking online I looked at the seats and I could see that the only people who booked, booked the row I was on with the "comfort" seats. So it was awkward as fuck when me and the only guy there early walked in and sat one seat apart. Then two groups of blokes walked in and then a female couple. Then some bloke who had clearly done the same as me and the guy next to me, lol. All on the same row. One thing that bugged me yesterday - At the climatic Han fight, just before he goes into the mirrored bathroom, there's a giant wheel behind Lee. It shows up quite often in posters and stills - anyone know what the hell it is? I tried working it out last night whilst watching it but still none the wiser
Hi I agree I hate the thin 4k slip sleeve I have a few standard size sleeve in 4k that I purchased from amazon because it doesn't look good in my 4k collection I like my display formal thanks for yet another informative podcast
With the ratings, I think it’s because the new 4k of enter the dragon and the mandarin cut of big boss have both been reclassified as they are “new” and with the latest guidelines they have now deemed them 15, whereas the older masters of the films have kept their original ratings as they havent been reclassified
Thank you for your review Stripey! Only ever had the 2007 blu-ray before I got the Arrow video box set, so I was pretty blown away with the 40th anniversary that was included in the Arrow set. When I saw warner were actually doing a 4k release I was a little bit tempted, but from what you’ve said it doesn’t sound like it’s all that, so thank you for saving me a potential 20 pounds 👍 Still might go see it at the cinema though, even though I already watched the movie twice again in the past couple of weeks
@@StripeyR No. But it would seem to me since they sold out the set was a success and to make even more money release it for gift giving season as singles in steelbook form with original artwork. You know there will be double dipping on that.
Only a guess but It may have been re-classified for the cinema. BBFC seem to be re-classifying alot of late. Many CAT III films have been released uncut with an 18 certificate and legendary censored movies have recently passed uncut. The Untold Story and House On The Edge Of The Park passing uncut surprised me. Top viddies btw Stripey. 👍
Like your review. Here in the u.s. we have the 4k and digital copy not the Blu-ray. Warner Brothers could have done better. Just like your T-shirt and the background. Enjoy your day my friend..
Is this the uncut cinema version? The scene where he goes into his room and plays the birdcage and there's his book on the desk and he picks it up and smiles. Or the scene where he is sitting with the white overal talking to the girl. I would like to see the complete unabridged version again after so many years. My best film forever and ever
Hey Stripey, i would say based on those comparisons that, grain aside, the Criterion has arguably the better picture in certain shots, it seems to have a richer colour palette whereas the 4K looks a touch brighter & washed out, although the cavern & mirror sequence on the 4K is an improvement. An upgrade of sorts you would say, i'm kind of disappointed as am waiting on the steelbook & wondering whether i should have stuck with the Criterion as the improvement is only marginal.
It's subjective, mate. loads of people are reviewing the 4K & are loving it (hopefully you will too). It does look good but I was expecting maybe a little too much (having just watched Fist of Fury). cheers fella 👍
Yeah i think sometimes we have a preconceived notion as to how things should look which can end in disappointment, though i do agree the cavern fight & mirror sequence were an improvement, no doubt. @@StripeyR
It isn’t that great but I am glad they have the Theatrical version. People don’t know that the cat scene and all the hands scene is so much better with the audio score over it and the 1.18 mark when John comes out to fight. The ending sounds better too. It improves it so much and that’s how I watched it as a kid on VHS in England. The special edition has no score over it and it’s too quiet without the music. It’s a shame theres not a 3rd edit with the extra footage with Bruce lees real voice with the Theatrical cut audio track.
Stripey, can you please let us all know which version of ETD is on screen when you've seen it. It's billed as 'uncut' but that doesn't say as to whether it's the original theatrical cut or the one with the monk scenes put in. 👃
Another brilliant video I have never seen the movie why did they not do any with the blu ray for the 50th anniversary I’d love to see this movie now and I totally agree with you everything your saying it’s just stupid
Hey Stripey, always love when u say hope u doing well. I loved how u explained like the other about the 4k ETD and when u say it was about I think u say 6 hours of footage. I believe u 100%. Now I had the anniversary of the box set with the soundtrack and video plus a booklet. Now if u have that booklet their is a page with all three looking over their shoulders and in that page there is a part that say there is a scene cuz out with Bolo beating up one of the men who was moving the luggage and I think maybe one dropped it or fell and it made I think Bolo angry and that is why all three looked over their shoulder and then u see Bolo looking at them in anger. Now when u was talking about scenes cut like I believe the woman who Le was talking too about the warehouse ans there is I think she was fighting too and they cut that out too or never made to film. Warner Bros honestly should be ashamed to get people who are fans of the film to,show us of how much they care. But people like u tell us the truth and we love it always and always hope u are doing well to and hope the wedding does great ans hear from u soon.
Hello Sir. I surely won't buy this disc because I don't want to pay tribute to Warner Brothers but to Bruce ! Like you said, they don't give a damn about fans, Bruce or anybody else but themselves. I worship Enter the dragon too much for accepting this so called " special 50th anniversary item " . Let's hope we will have a real bluray paying a true celebration 🍾 to this eternal masterpiece and hopefully before the 100th anniversary of its release ! Take care, sir !
@@StripeyRI ordered a region free blu ray player as well, just to watch the Arrow set. The Arrow BD set, although not 4K, looks better than the Criterion set.
Hi Stripey, another great review from the essex nunchaku king :). This brightness issue you had with ETD 4k. Its not your set up is it? Amount of times I've had to adjust my picture to get a better quality presentation and some tellys are just better than others in presenting films as they should look. I guess the acid test will be the actual cinema screening itself. As for the ratings. I noticed that on the BBFC website. All of Bruce's films are now 15, which is surprising when you consider the level of violence and gore in ' The Big Boss'. Very disappointed that Warners did not put the theatrical version on the standard Blu Ray - it defies common sense doesn't it. And the cut you mentioned in the banquet scene,whats that all about? We need to know. I perked up reading another post had mentioned that there is another 50th Anniversary Ultimate Collector’s Edition out in September Blimey! they really know how to bleed the fans dry dont they. Could this really be all what we have dreamed of. Or just another vanilla Warner Bros money spinner.
I enjoyed this release, but I feel they could have included an additional disc with all of the previous bonus content we've had in other releases. When it comes to the brightness in certain scenes, this is a general problem with HDR because there seems to be no grading standard like there was with SDR. My projector even has a dedicated button on the remote to adjust the HDR gamma on the fly because it's such a widespread issue. I didn't have the same problems you did with the brightness, but then again I adjust my HDR gamma nearly every time I start a film (it only takes about 5-10 seconds but this drives my wife crazy haha). When it comes to the audio I was happy that the atmos track was basic and clear. Just a nice restoration, the dialog was very articulate and the action sequences had a lot of punch to them. Nothing fancy as far as atmos surround effects or anything but it got the job done. Gotta agree with you on the theatrical cut, I can't stand the way the extended/special cut breaks the pacing at the end adding in the flashback with the whole "the enemy is only illusions" or whatever.....super happy I can just watch the theatrical cut. Cheers!
The film was resubmitted to the BBFC like the Mandarin Cut was hence the now lower rating. The old versions weren't submitted hence the 18 certificates still standing.
Good vid, have to agree with what's said. It's clearly obvious that whoever came up with this release from Warner Bros doesn't have respect for Bruce Lee and his fans, it's just a basic re-release upgrade on 4k as part of their 100th Warner Bros 4k upgrade catalogue, and that's simply it. Makes me think after Bruce's passing who really financially benefited from Enter The Dragon, Warner Bros or did the Bruce Lee estate get a fair share? In my opinion Warner Bros is a joke and don't value this legend and the fact its been 50 years anniversary of this movie and his passing, you'd think they'd make the extra effort to one of the most influential martial arts movie ever made with extras, unreleased footage, deleted scenes etc. However if they really give a shit, then hope they re-release by doing it justice with the like of Arrow and Criterion giving the fans what they want!
The opening credits always look off from films in this era as its basically an optical effect , do its a generation down in quality once processed by the lab. The higher rating on the blu ray can sometimes be due to the extra features where someone swears or stuff like that
When it comes to BBFC it’s money saving on the boutique label. If the original version was certified by the bbfc back in the 80s whereas the extended/alternative hasn’t, then the latter will be submitted & may have a lower classification. According to the BBFC website package media (physical disc) it’s 8.65 per minute. Any content that’s less than 10 minutes the standard rate is £86.50.
james ferman,iv watched many bbfc documentaries over the decades and i still think we are none the wiser about the cuts to bruces films,was every male in britain going to start swinging nunchakus at old grannies.enjoy your wedding stripey.
shocked and glad it was the theatrical release last night at the cinema . So much for Shannon even bothering to watch it herself , listen to her intro . Dislike her very much , she has no idea how to deal with her father's legacy .
@@StripeyR The amount of things she gets wrong is telling. She is a 'spokesperson' that got the job but doesn't read the material. Her mother & her are about keeping _the Legend_ going to ensure the money keeps rolling in.
Cool review mate , i did notice the certificate aswell on this as it was on the Big Boss , god knows what that is all about , im going to the cinema to see it on Saturday night so not bothered to watch the 4k yet , certainly agree on Warner they are useless. Thanks for the mention to mate 👍
Yeah, I was a wee bit disappointed with it tbh. I really thought that Warners could have done a much better job with the packaging, it's just feels a bit cheap. Picture is ok, certainly less grain than previous versions. Audio like you say is top notch, very "Bass Heavy" for sure. Will we ever see an improved version? Who knows! Thanks for the review, and you take care. Cheers!
I think someone has already commented about BBFC 2023 classification. In the UK cinemas it's now been rated 15, uncut. You'll find majority of violent US action movies now receive a 15 cert. And many former 18 films now receive a 15 on reissue, as long as no graphic sexual violence and the fighting is comical or fantastical. The disparity among discs is baffling, The packaging is cheap, no booklet is appalling. Enjoy your visit Tues, I'm lucky, we have a Sat & Tues screening. My Odeon sound will be normal, my Vue the bass will be BOOMING and deafening!!😅 .
As far as the info that’s out there, both Boss & Fury are the original negatives so they’ll look the best. Enter WB has an interpositive (second generation) so a bit grainier and Way & Game 78 an internegative (third generation) so that has a lot of grain
iTunes is Dolby vision and Dolby Atmos This is one half arsed release, 😂😂 Still taking my lads to see it Sunday on the big screen so let’s hope the projectionists got it in focus
Interesting that UK version of this 4K film includes 4K and Blu-ray - the American one only has single 4K disc with no extras. This disc is not quite as good as Arrow 4K holden harvest box set.
I watched it in the cinema last night and I’ve never seen any Bruce Lee film in the cinema after viewing them 100s of times…. It was absolutely magical! It was such a strange experience watching it knowing every beat of the film and it feeling fresh on the big screen. The energy when Bruce is on screen was magnificent as always but on a cinema screen - wonderful. I did notice at the cinema that some of the scenes in Enter the Dragon the cinematography isn’t that great - some scenes are blurred to be honest and there’s no recovering that whatever the format. All the Bruce scenes pin point sharp and the colours in the cinema on the 4k was magnificent. When the film finished you could feel the warm and buzz from people leaving the cinema - talking about how good Bruce was. Lovely intro from Shannon in the cinema on the film - that would’ve been nice on this release. I’ve not watched the 4k yet as delayed it due to seeing it in the cinema. I’d actually say it’s the most fun I’ve ever had in a cinema - very cherished trip
We went to see it too, but got in a few minutes late. Didn’t know there was a special intro😢
Can't wait to see it on 4k..I'm going this weekend to see in theater .Enter the Dragon is a masterpiece .
I’m off to the cinema Sunday to watch it looking forward to it, haven’t seen it in the cinema for 40 years, saw it when it came out in 73 I was 11 The Grand would let anyone in, like you Iv had it on VHS 📼 DVD 📀 Blue Ray 📀 but to watch it in the cinema again 👍🥷🙏 set me back 50yrs , going to love every minute of it 👍🥷
I was born in 74, so I obviously didn’t get to see it on the big screen. I am going to see it this Sunday however as well. Can’t wait!😎🕺
@@jonathanaldecoa1099 lucky I picked up the tickets 🎟️ yesterday the showing is 3/4s full, there must be a lot of sad bastards like us out there lol 😂 enjoy it 👍 I know I will 👍🥷
They should have released a 4K restoration Extended Version DVD of Enter the Dragon With all the missing footage before the film was released,
I too would love Arrow having a go at doing “Enter The Dragon “ 4k ….they would blow Warners away!.now I will be searching my other copies to see if indeed this 4k has been cut
From the BBFC RE: Enter The Dragon 2023 release - "In order for its policies to remain relevant and in tune with public feeling, the BBFC regularly reviews and adjusts them accordingly when issuing a new set of Guidelines. In 1999, the BBFC embarked on its first extensive consultation process with the public, in order to gauge public taste, attitudes and concerns on various issues relevant to film and other audio-visual media. In the same year, in light of this change to a more context-based, proportionate approach to classification issues, the past distinction between martial arts and other weapons was abandoned. This meant that in 2001, Enter The Dragon was classified at 18 for video, with all previous cuts (both to violence and weapons) fully restored. Now, depictions of offensive weapons, or glamourous and detailed depictions of violent techniques, are still liable for cuts - or are refused classification - if they are considered to promote illegal behaviour in the real world. However, such instances are rare.
In its most recent submission to the BBFC for video release in 2023, Enter The Dragon was re-classified at 15, along with the content advice of: ‘strong violence, sexual threat, nudity, sex references’.
At 15, our Guidelines on the issue of violence state that: ‘Violence may be strong but should not dwell on the infliction of pain or injury.’ Against these current standards, the violence in Enter The Dragon lacks the visual detail that would warrant the adult category. The sound of bones being broken and brief blood spurts implying slashes with knives accompany largely masked uses of martial arts and weaponry, leaving much to the imagination of viewers.
Other issues that contribute to the 15 classification also include strong sex references and nudity, pertaining to female breast and buttock nudity in the context of sex work, as well as the implication of group sex having taken place; although the latter does not take place on-screen. Also significant at 15 in Enter The Dragon is the issue of sexual threat. BBFC Guidelines reflect the sensitive nature of issues relating to sexual violence, sexual threat and other sexually abusive behaviour, which our research with the public has highlighted. A scene from the film depicts a prolonged flashback sequence in which a woman is pursued by a gang of men. Their intention is of a sexual nature, but the focus on the threat is not so strong or sustained that it would have warranted a higher classification".
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Hi stripy, I'm at Ellesmere port cinema at this minute waiting to watch Bruce Lee's enter the dragon. Hehe can't wait 😁👍👍
How was the flim
I'm watching Enter the Dragon in 4K at the cinema tomorrow. Can't wait...
Great review. It's easy to have rose tinted glasses when watching your favourite film but your honesty is refreshing. Warners are not the only ones who treat their significant releases so poorly. Mgm do the same with the Rocky franchise. Enter the Dragon has made Warner $2 billion, so for a 50th anniversary its a bit piss poor. Still, looking forward to seeing it on the big screen next week...
They have put Bruce’s voice on the mono channel, Stripey ( and cleaned it up ).
American release get a digital code for the extras ( and No BluRay).
I like the PQ. Criterion’s looked grainy and over-exposed, so I’m very happy with it and it’s less than £20 ( most new 4Ks are £25 at HMV ).
Importantly, the press release says it’s scanned from the original camera negative, so it is as good as it can be.
Awesome, I look forward to giving that a listen. The picture does look good, & seemed to improve as the film progressed, but I was expecting a little more tbh. 👍
Warner are worst, not giving it the treatment it deserved. So bbfc have reclassified lots of films, both Alien and Terminator are 15 now
I've gone Betamax to 4k 😅 first time we watched it was when ITV showed the full uncut version. Love to see Arrow get the chance to do a 4k of it. I'm on Way of the Dragon disk, watched the Japanese version last night 😊
This is one of the most important and impactful action films ever released. I don't think there is anything wrong with expecting warner to do something special to commemorate the 50th anniversary of it's release. It is nice to get the 4K release, but some extras that haven't already been released twenty times would have been nice.
Damn straight. They did absolutely nothing. No doubt a double dip coming.
Thanks for the review, can't wait to get this.
Reason for the different age ratings on the discs bbfc gave both Theatrical and Special Edition cuts a new age 15 rating on 17th July 2023
It's only the UHD that is a new disc pressing.
Special Edition cut in 2001 was given age 18 rating by bbfc
As the Blu-ray is the 40th Anniversary disc (Special Edition cut) from 2013 that's why that has 18
It's a existing disc pressed before 2023
Slipcover has 18 as it includes the existing pressed Blu-ray disc rated age 18.
Any grain removal is an eyebrow raiser for me, that really shouldn't be tampered with because that's where all the detail is. I have to say, I don't typically care for comparisons filmed off of a TV when I see them, as I think it's really hard to make a good judgement and presentation that way, BUT... you've done easily the best version of that I've ever seen. Very slickly shot and framed, and it did give a decent idea of the differences between the two transfers, so I have to give you credit for that 👍
After buying arrows bruce lee boxset, i will have to buy the 4 k ETD to replace the blu ray that came with the arrows box set ,,shameful WB 😊
I watched enter the dragon at the cinema the other day i found this 4k version quite blury tbo. My normal dvd was a lot clearer don't know why maybe it's to do with the big screens. But I still enjoyed it the sound was fantastic. "Mr Lee, why you no wear uniform" love it 😁👍
You definitely have problems with your setup if you think the DVD is clearer than the 4k.
@benpascall4297 No my dvd setup is fine I've not got the 4k ETD on dvd I watched enter the dragon at the cinema in 4k I found it blury. My old ETD dvd was a lot clearer
@stevenbaldwin7241 I found the same, the picture quality was disappointing. I see a lot of so called 4k restoration reissues at the cinema, and they can be a little grainy. Think 4k is often over-hyped.
@@stevenbaldwin7241 so you’re commenting on the 4k Blu ray edition based on the cinema restoration?
Also, could you define ‘clear’? When you mean clear, do you mean free of grain? If yes, I’d seriously question that as grain is often more prevalent in a 4k restoration, but is also a part of the original shot on film look. If something looks more ‘clear’ in comparison, it’s possible that it’s also been scrubbed of grain, using DNR, which also scrubs away other detail in the picture.
I refute any claims that DVD looks better than any 4k restoration. Unless the 4k is a complete balls up, which this isn’t, it’s simply not possible purely based on a technical level and the number of pixels and data on screen.
@benpascall4297 The cinema 4k version was like watching a film on TV, and then if you put TV on HD that's what my dvd is like if you know what I mean. Like I said I've not bought ETD 4k edition yet but I will. And I no for a fact it will be a lot clearer than my normal dvd. It's just the cinema version I found it blury not so much grainy. If you do go and watch it at the cinema you will know what I mean.
Thanks stripey cos of you I wss able to catch it at my local cinema this evening otherwise I would have missed it..didn't know it was at the cinema. Print was decent still would have loved to see what arrow would have done on it.. Their work on the big boss is mind blowing. I swear I would have thought it was filmed recently that's how pristine it looks
Proper look at the image quality, much appreciated
You are a top man sir, respect to you.
I think all the discs should be sent back to Warner with a huge boot up their arses and told to sort it out. Words escape me for this release. Hope you're well Stripey my friend. 🙏
Really wish there where more reviewers from the UK, seem to be the only people on YT that give honest feedback.
@@DarkSideOfTheMoon90 We certainly do 😁👍🙏
"underwhelmed" is exactly what I thought on first viewing. While not perfect it's probably the best this movie looks at present. I only the 40th anniversary bluray to compare with, not the Criterion, even so it's quite obvious how much an improvement this version is over that one. I think maybe like you Stripey I had high expectations, plus having spent the last few days trawling through the arrow boxset I have been spoilt with the overall PQ with Big Boss & Fist of Fury in particular.
Good review sir, and keep up the great work.
Thanks, fella. The picture quality on BB & FOF on the Arrow set, is stunning. So I had high expectations for ETD, & although it does look as good as I've seen it, I think Arrow would have done a much better job (in my humble opinion).
cheers pal 👍
Enjoyed your veiw on the 50th of Enter The Dragon. I have a 1982 VHS version, I bought in 1985 when my local video shop closed down. I think you would appreciate it more than myself.
Thank you Stripey.
Thank you, my friend 👍
@@StripeyR 👊🏻
During the Jim Kelley fight at the beginning, was there music? On the criterion, there's no music.
Do you know if the blu ray is region locked?
We did not get the combo in Canada
I have no idea, mate. I would imagine it is.
Thank you for your honest words. I think your criticisms are spot on. Again, Warner Bros. released a lacklustre product showing only the bare minimum of effort. And you have to keep in mind that the US release doesn’t even come with a Blu-ray! For a standard 70ies film this would be an OK product with a solid picture quality (albeit missing Dolby Vision) but given the film historical significance of Enter The Dragon this is a cheap shot by WB. And I’m not really surprised taking into account their missteps (mainly in the sound department) with the 4k box sets of the Rocky and the Superman movies. While “celebrating” their 100th anniversary they are not able (or willing) to come up with one single new special for THE martial arts movie that influenced the industry and the world? Not even at its 50th anniversary? You are absolutely right: They just don’t care - and it shows. This release should have come with at least a new commentary track and a new feature length documentary about the movie, the genre and about Bruce Lee. Just imagine what Arrow would have done with this. Or if the inhouse job was a must they could have delegated ETD to their small but superb team behind The Warner Archive Collection. In short: I'm happy to have ETD in a quality that's at least a technical reflection of our time but the product as a whole is underwhelming and (as you put it so aptly) just disrespectful.
Thank you for an honest review.
On another note, why are the majority of americans claiming it is fantastic? I know its subjective, however, the general thinking in the UK is that it isnt great which i agree it isnt. Is it because reviewers in the US are only on YT for money with views and affiliate links?, To me thats the way its looking.
The BBFC have previously stated they can't re-classify a film if previously issued a certificate. Re-classification normally occurs if the length of the film has changed e.g. Alien Director's cut. But both cuts of ETD were previously 18 so...😵💫
That was me that said the Eyes (Monkeys Probably) were In the Food Bucket Williams Lifts the lid up on, then rocks back shaking His head. So It Is not there again. There Is a Steel Box coming In September with Three more Minutes added. So all the cuts have hopefully been put back In. Thanks for sharing this one. I'll wait for the Steel Box one.
New subscriber,love you Bruce Lee videos..in regards to Atmos id highly recommended getting a proper Atmos setup using the over head speakers if you can afford it and more importantly have the room for it..hearing the Atmos in Enter The Dragon is amazing almost like watching the movie for the first time..a couple of highlights like the plane actually flying overhead at the start and the girls flicking the knives into the fruit..hearing the knifes impale the fruit up over your head makes the investment well worth it.they really put so much effort into the Atmos yet i bearley ever hear anyone mentioning the overhead affects
Cool video thanks for that! The only “Enter The Dragon” release I will be buying will be if and when Warner Brothers dig through their archives and find the Henry Wong footage if it still exists. The Arrow box set is really great!
In respect of BBFC, whenever a new version is introduced, which includes a 4k version, or an uncut / extended version, it has to be re-submitted to the BBFC. The BBFC will certify based on its rules at the time, but what they won’t do is re-certify any previous versions if they decided to allocate a new classification for the latest release. John Wick 2 is a good example, 15 in cinemas and on Bluray, but 18 on 4k as it was uncut and certain darker scenes were more visible on 4k.
Can't help but think what Arrow could have done with ETD. I mean the return to Thailand documentary was brilliant. Can you imagine that with Enter.
It would have been awesome, mate. The Return to Thailand was fantastic. Cheers pal 👍
I do agree with you Stripey. You can garentee, they've ( Warner Bros) left something out,just so they can squeeze another ETD release in the future. The ultimate edition or something. I love ETD, but,I love. Fist of fury grudgingly,just that wee bit more. Mind you,as long as Bruce Lee is in it. For example,I remember years ago,I was getting ready to go the pub to meet my buddies. Marlowe with James Garner was on. I was just about to switch it off,to got to the pub,just at that moment, Bruce Lee was on the movie. Wow! At the time,I didn't know he was in it. Anyway,I was late getting to the pub. Cheers again Stripey. All the best from Bonnie Scotland.
They’re rated for the special features I think.
It was the same for Flash Gordon on Arrow. Says 15 on the box but the actual film is PG.
Good review mate iv not watched mine yet
Softening the contrast takes the grain out a bit, turn the darkness down a bit
Thanks for your review Stripey. Iam getting Enter the Dragon 4k. next week. I really enjoyed your review. i`ve got a Sony projektor that can fix the brightnes problem, "i hope". And as this is a 50th anniversary 4k, you are right, it`s disappointing, where is the new extras. nothing at all, zero !!! Come on Warner, a big box set with a lot of goodies ,because ETD is a Classic.
Thank you Warner Bros for your absolute commitment to promoting the 50th anniversary of Bruce Lee in such a generous and thoughtful way. Your decision to not allow Arrow box set to include this version of Enter the Dragon and instead release this turgid, bare bones edition really serves up a treat for the fans… all those duplicated extra features from years gone by… wow. Truly a shite and disrespectful tribute. Nice review Stripey, it showed the low standards of Warner bros in relation to Bruce Lee releases. What a features light release from Warner. Seeing Enter the Dragon Tuesday at the cinema too…🤙 that’s a much much bigger deal for me. Thank God for Arrow Bruce Lee boxset too. That was 5 star release.
I think its something to do with submitting it to the bbfc. Eg with the big boss they only needed to summit the altered longer mandarin cut as the normal version had already be classified. If they submitted the normal big boss again it would probably get a 15, something like that probably went on with enter the dragon.
I'll be watching Enter the Dragon this Saturday at the Prince Charles theatre. I was 3 years old when the film was released in the 70s. Great review, could be lazy correction correction from scene to scene, by Warners .
Thank you for your thoughts. I share your views 100 percent! One thing I wish they would release is a digital version of the theatrical release. I would love that if I could watch that on streaming apps. I do not like the additional scenes as they seem to detract from Lee's character having self mastery already in place as opposed needing to listen toJohn Little's American sounding fortune cookie wisdom
Agree 100%. The Head Monk takes Lee away from being the master.
Before buying this 4K edition I only had the 2007 Warner release (the one with the pinkish cover) so I cannot speak to the Criterion edition...but to my eyes (and ears) this is an absolutely cracking upgrade. As you say, there are a few scenes (or cuts within the scenes) at the start where the detail is not great but comparing to the previous release I assume this is the fault of the source material (those bits look like DVD quality on that 2007 release as well)...once the movie gets going though, the picture (especially the colours) is gorgeous and a joy to look at...I never realised how drab my 2007 release looked until I saw this. The sound is also a huge improvement...the music is lush, detailed and has great range (I have a pretty decent sound system) and I have no complaints at all. I agree, it would have been nice if the release mentioned the 50th anniversary and maybe came with a booklet or something but overall I think this is a great release and well worth a purchase 😀👍
I did find it weird that my USA 4K disc is hdr10 but the digital code version is the superior Dolby vision. Makes no sense.
Have a look at your eco settings on your TV , and if they are on turn them off . They really make your picture way to bright especially on 4K pictures
They did release a limited edition version in a rigid slipcase with poster and card's and a steel book
Arrow and Warners couldn’t be bothered, probably for the cost implication to get the previous cuts and formats re-certificated.
Hi stripey why have you got 2 ETD dvds which one is that in the background to the left. Because I will be buying this soon and I want the best version 👍👍
It's the slipcase to the 4K Blu-Ray mate.
@@StripeyR 😀👍👍
Great sum up & you are absolutely right with everything Stripey as always buddy. I personally felt it wasn’t much different from my blu ray on 4K upscale.
I have to say & ask at same time looking at warners other releases as a part of 50 years example the exorcist they have gone full throttle but for some reason enter the dragon has some sort of bar on artwork & additional footage, there is buckets of footage out there of ETD but mmmmm 🤔 I don’t even think Linda Lee & Shannon lee has made a big deal , let’s find out WHY ????
But mate regards respect for the breakdown 🤛🏻
Have you seen any more new ETD footage 😊
just to ask is the 4k remake happening next week??
A different channel when reviewing the Warner Bros discs made a comment that the blu-ray would be region locked. Is that correct, or is it unlocked in this edition?
Blu-ray is Region B. Why the US won't have the blu-ray in their edition.
I found the same. Some of the scenes did look a little on the bright side . But overall, a superb release
Very good critique stripey, well done
Don't forget the special edition steelbook release for early September
I'll just be sticking with the old blu ray for now lol i don't have 4k and tbh ETD doesn't look that much different than the nice Criterion release , think Fist of fury was the best transfer for the Arrow release it was amazing ! great review on the quality .. I'm contemplating a cinema visit on Sat myself to watch the 4k version on the big screen .
Fist of Fury does look incredible, mate. I was blown away.
I'm looking forward to ETD on Tuesday at the cinema. Treat yourself, Steve, it could be a while before we see a cinema release again. cheers pal 👍
I watched it in 4k at the cinema, it was fucking great. I've seen it 100s of times on every format going. Never looked better! Was surprised to see it was a 15 but having just re-watched it for the first time in a while the nudity is barely there, I thought they'd cut it to be honest. Funny how times change. I have 5 versions of the soundtrack, it was banging at the cinema.
I saw it tonight too, mate. Bruce Lee was made for the BIG screen.
ETD was phenomenal at the cinema. 👍
@@StripeyR Yeah deffo. I've always been a big fan of cinema but all those years of watching it on TV or shitty VHS copies of US versions or the later VHS/DVD uncut releases didn't quite prepare me for the impact on the big screen. I liked the intro from his daughter too, nice touch. You can tell this was relatively big budget, compared to a lot of other martial arts films from the period. I was left last night wondering what else he would have done, had he not died. I liked the direction GoD took and I've always thought the BL cut was a phenomenal piece of work. Only 8 people in the screening last night!
@@orbtastic We didn't get the Shannon intro, It just went straight into the movie. The theater was quite full, but not packed. But seeing ETD on a big screen is definitely the way to go. Cheers fella 👍
@@StripeyR Weird. Maybe it's the chain? I searched for it in my area and Vue (ex WB) were the only one showing it and they only had ONE showing this entire week. Cos I did the booking online I looked at the seats and I could see that the only people who booked, booked the row I was on with the "comfort" seats. So it was awkward as fuck when me and the only guy there early walked in and sat one seat apart. Then two groups of blokes walked in and then a female couple. Then some bloke who had clearly done the same as me and the guy next to me, lol. All on the same row. One thing that bugged me yesterday - At the climatic Han fight, just before he goes into the mirrored bathroom, there's a giant wheel behind Lee. It shows up quite often in posters and stills - anyone know what the hell it is? I tried working it out last night whilst watching it but still none the wiser
Hi I agree I hate the thin 4k slip sleeve I have a few standard size sleeve in 4k that I purchased from amazon because it doesn't look good in my 4k collection I like my display formal thanks for yet another informative podcast
With the ratings, I think it’s because the new 4k of enter the dragon and the mandarin cut of big boss have both been reclassified as they are “new” and with the latest guidelines they have now deemed them 15, whereas the older masters of the films have kept their original ratings as they havent been reclassified
Thank you for your review Stripey! Only ever had the 2007 blu-ray before I got the Arrow video box set, so I was pretty blown away with the 40th anniversary that was included in the Arrow set. When I saw warner were actually doing a 4k release I was a little bit tempted, but from what you’ve said it doesn’t sound like it’s all that, so thank you for saving me a potential 20 pounds 👍
Still might go see it at the cinema though, even though I already watched the movie twice again in the past couple of weeks
Capsaholic just went live with screen caps. Proof is in the pudding!
Is there reversible cover art and is there a digital code with it
You think they will put the ARROW 4k in steelbook single movies for November?
I don't know, mate. They could do, for people who didn't get the boxset. Have you heard anything about this?
@@StripeyR No. But it would seem to me since they sold out the set was a success and to make even more money release it for gift giving season as singles in steelbook form with original artwork. You know there will be double dipping on that.
Only a guess but It may have been re-classified for the cinema.
BBFC seem to be re-classifying alot of late.
Many CAT III films have been released uncut with an 18 certificate and legendary censored movies have recently passed uncut.
The Untold Story and House On The Edge Of The Park passing uncut surprised me.
Top viddies btw Stripey. 👍
Like your review. Here in the u.s. we have the 4k and digital copy not the Blu-ray. Warner Brothers could have done better. Just like your T-shirt and the background. Enjoy your day my friend..
Cheers, mate. We didn't get a digital copy herein the UK, just another 40th Blu Ray. Take care fella 👍
Is this the uncut cinema version? The scene where he goes into his room and plays the birdcage and there's his book on the desk and he picks it up and smiles. Or the scene where he is sitting with the white overal talking to the girl. I would like to see the complete unabridged version again after so many years. My best film forever and ever
It's the theatrical cut (as far as I'm aware)
Thank you for your answer. You have your new 4k ultra blue ray. Are these scenes included? Have you had a look yet?
Hey Stripey, i would say based on those comparisons that, grain aside, the Criterion has arguably the better picture in certain shots, it seems to have a richer colour palette whereas the 4K looks a touch brighter & washed out, although the cavern & mirror sequence on the 4K is an improvement.
An upgrade of sorts you would say, i'm kind of disappointed as am waiting on the steelbook & wondering whether i should have stuck with the Criterion as the improvement is only marginal.
It's subjective, mate. loads of people are reviewing the 4K & are loving it (hopefully you will too). It does look good but I was expecting maybe a little too much (having just watched Fist of Fury).
cheers fella 👍
Yeah i think sometimes we have a preconceived notion as to how things should look which can end in disappointment, though i do agree the cavern fight & mirror sequence were an improvement, no doubt. @@StripeyR
It isn’t that great but I am glad they have the Theatrical version. People don’t know that the cat scene and all the hands scene is so much better with the audio score over it and the 1.18 mark when John comes out to fight.
The ending sounds better too.
It improves it so much and that’s how I watched it as a kid on VHS in England. The special edition has no score over it and it’s too quiet without the music. It’s a shame theres not a 3rd edit with the extra footage with Bruce lees real voice with the Theatrical cut audio track.
what's the HK version of the film on the Golden Harvest Box set like in comparison?
The 8track edition 1973
Stripey, can you please let us all know which version of ETD is on screen when you've seen it. It's billed as 'uncut' but that doesn't say as to whether it's the original theatrical cut or the one with the monk scenes put in. 👃
Why didnt you pick up the steelbook edition mate? It's a stunna and what this classic deserves
Another brilliant video I have never seen the movie why did they not do any with the blu ray for the 50th anniversary I’d love to see this movie now and I totally agree with you everything your saying it’s just stupid
Thanks, mate 👍
Hey Stripey, always love when u say hope u doing well. I loved how u explained like the other about the 4k ETD and when u say it was about I think u say 6 hours of footage. I believe u 100%. Now I had the anniversary of the box set with the soundtrack and video plus a booklet. Now if u have that booklet their is a page with all three looking over their shoulders and in that page there is a part that say there is a scene cuz out with Bolo beating up one of the men who was moving the luggage and I think maybe one dropped it or fell and it made I think Bolo angry and that is why all three looked over their shoulder and then u see Bolo looking at them in anger. Now when u was talking about scenes cut like I believe the woman who Le was talking too about the warehouse ans there is I think she was fighting too and they cut that out too or never made to film. Warner Bros honestly should be ashamed to get people who are fans of the film to,show us of how much they care. But people like u tell us the truth and we love it always and always hope u are doing well to and hope the wedding does great ans hear from u soon.
Don't hold your breath for another version of ETD. This is the window and Warner Bros. decided to do nothing. Very sad.
Hello Sir. I surely won't buy this disc because I don't want to pay tribute to Warner Brothers but to Bruce ! Like you said, they don't give a damn about fans, Bruce or anybody else but themselves. I worship Enter the dragon too much for accepting this so called " special 50th anniversary item " . Let's hope we will have a real bluray paying a true celebration 🍾 to this eternal masterpiece and hopefully before the 100th anniversary of its release !
Take care, sir !
the Arrow release was good and is good , i had to get a zone free blu ray player to watch the last 5 blu ray discs of the arrow box set .
Yeah, I heard that mate. Why they region lock discs these days, is beyond me. Enjoy the set fella 👍
@@StripeyRI ordered a region free blu ray player as well, just to watch the Arrow set. The Arrow BD set, although not 4K, looks better than the Criterion set.
Where did you get that T-Shirt?
A London film fair (a few years ago)
Hi Stripey, another great review from the essex nunchaku king :). This brightness issue you had with ETD 4k. Its not your set up is it? Amount of times I've had to adjust my picture to get a better quality presentation and some tellys are just better than others in presenting films as they should look. I guess the acid test will be the actual cinema screening itself. As for the ratings. I noticed that on the BBFC website. All of Bruce's films are now 15, which is surprising when you consider the level of violence and gore in ' The Big Boss'. Very disappointed that Warners did not put the theatrical version on the standard Blu Ray - it defies common sense doesn't it. And the cut you mentioned in the banquet scene,whats that all about? We need to know. I perked up reading another post had mentioned that there is another 50th Anniversary Ultimate Collector’s Edition out in September Blimey! they really know how to bleed the fans dry dont they. Could this really be all what we have dreamed of. Or just another vanilla Warner Bros money spinner.
I enjoyed this release, but I feel they could have included an additional disc with all of the previous bonus content we've had in other releases. When it comes to the brightness in certain scenes, this is a general problem with HDR because there seems to be no grading standard like there was with SDR. My projector even has a dedicated button on the remote to adjust the HDR gamma on the fly because it's such a widespread issue. I didn't have the same problems you did with the brightness, but then again I adjust my HDR gamma nearly every time I start a film (it only takes about 5-10 seconds but this drives my wife crazy haha). When it comes to the audio I was happy that the atmos track was basic and clear. Just a nice restoration, the dialog was very articulate and the action sequences had a lot of punch to them. Nothing fancy as far as atmos surround effects or anything but it got the job done. Gotta agree with you on the theatrical cut, I can't stand the way the extended/special cut breaks the pacing at the end adding in the flashback with the whole "the enemy is only illusions" or whatever.....super happy I can just watch the theatrical cut. Cheers!
The film was resubmitted to the BBFC like the Mandarin Cut was hence the now lower rating. The old versions weren't submitted hence the 18 certificates still standing.
Hello sir, fell good, and excellent clip. What’s the background music, it’s zen and has calming effect. Peace and blessings
Hi, fella. The tune is called
Sao Meo Orchestral Mix, it's available on RUclips. Enjoy 😉
Good vid, have to agree with what's said. It's clearly obvious that whoever came up with this release from Warner Bros doesn't have respect for Bruce Lee and his fans, it's just a basic re-release upgrade on 4k as part of their 100th Warner Bros 4k upgrade catalogue, and that's simply it. Makes me think after Bruce's passing who really financially benefited from Enter The Dragon, Warner Bros or did the Bruce Lee estate get a fair share? In my opinion Warner Bros is a joke and don't value this legend and the fact its been 50 years anniversary of this movie and his passing, you'd think they'd make the extra effort to one of the most influential martial arts movie ever made with extras, unreleased footage, deleted scenes etc. However if they really give a shit, then hope they re-release by doing it justice with the like of Arrow and Criterion giving the fans what they want!
The opening credits always look off from films in this era as its basically an optical effect , do its a generation down in quality once processed by the lab.
The higher rating on the blu ray can sometimes be due to the extra features where someone swears or stuff like that
The BBFC since the turn of the century have been getting weirder with their classifications of Films & TV Shows etc
When it comes to BBFC it’s money saving on the boutique label.
If the original version was certified by the bbfc back in the 80s whereas the extended/alternative hasn’t, then the latter will be submitted & may have a lower classification.
According to the BBFC website package media (physical disc) it’s 8.65 per minute.
Any content that’s less than 10 minutes the standard rate is £86.50.
It’s Warners. I expected nothing and received nothing.
james ferman,iv watched many bbfc documentaries over the decades and i still think we are none the wiser about the cuts to bruces films,was every male in britain going to start swinging nunchakus at old grannies.enjoy your wedding stripey.
Hi. What is the background soundtrack in this video?
It's called Sao Meo Orchestral Mix
@@StripeyR Thanks !
shocked and glad it was the theatrical release last night at the cinema . So much for Shannon even bothering to watch it herself , listen to her intro . Dislike her very much , she has no idea how to deal with her father's legacy .
I have mixed feelings about Shannon, mate. I appreciate who she is, but some of the decisions that have been made over the years are questionable.
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The amount of things she gets wrong is telling.
She is a 'spokesperson' that got the job but doesn't read the material.
Her mother & her are about keeping _the Legend_ going to ensure the money keeps rolling in.
I prefer his low budget movies to this one 👍
Cool review mate , i did notice the certificate aswell on this as it was on the Big Boss , god knows what that is all about , im going to the cinema to see it on Saturday night so not bothered to watch the 4k yet , certainly agree on Warner they are useless. Thanks for the mention to mate 👍
Pleasure, fella 👍Enjoy ETD at the Cinema, mate
Yeah, I was a wee bit disappointed with it tbh. I really thought that Warners could have done a much better job with the packaging, it's just feels a bit cheap. Picture is ok, certainly less grain than previous versions. Audio like you say is top notch, very "Bass Heavy" for sure. Will we ever see an improved version? Who knows! Thanks for the review, and you take care. Cheers!
Thank you mate 👍
You're most welcome sir!@@StripeyR
The classification,could the difference be on the extras.Sometimes a film can be 15 but something on the extras makes it 18
american 4k didn't get a second disc, must be nice!!
I think someone has already commented about BBFC 2023 classification. In the UK cinemas it's now been rated 15, uncut. You'll find majority of violent US action movies now receive a 15 cert. And many former 18 films now receive a 15 on reissue, as long as no graphic sexual violence and the fighting is comical or fantastical. The disparity among discs is baffling, The packaging is cheap, no booklet is appalling. Enjoy your visit Tues, I'm lucky, we have a Sat & Tues screening. My Odeon sound will be normal, my Vue the bass will be BOOMING and deafening!!😅
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As far as the info that’s out there, both Boss & Fury are the original negatives so they’ll look the best. Enter WB has an interpositive (second generation) so a bit grainier and Way & Game 78 an internegative (third generation) so that has a lot of grain
iTunes is Dolby vision and Dolby Atmos
This is one half arsed release, 😂😂
Still taking my lads to see it Sunday on the big screen so let’s hope the projectionists got it in focus
I think Arrow would have done a better job with the 4k of Enter The Dragon. And no new extras as well.
Interesting that UK version of this 4K film includes 4K and Blu-ray - the American one only has single 4K disc with no extras.
This disc is not quite as good as Arrow 4K holden harvest box set.