Steph Curry is way better than Lebron,,, more skilled...never jumped ship when it got tough, saved Lebron in the Olympics, 4 championships (no bubble ring)...stop
I've been watching since the late 80s. And the level of skill has skyrocketted since the 2000s and parity today is at an all time high. Yet here's Lebron still dominating with diminished athleticism. Every move you can think of, the guy has a highlight reel: dunks, midrange, logo 3s, precision passing, playmaking and reading defense, chase downs blocks, circus shots, clutch shots and he's done it night in and night out, under extreme scrutiny for over 2 decades. Jordan had to stop to compose himself even though he was competing in the watered down era. Imo, James is the most complete basketball player and his rings were taken from legitimately all time great teams and generational players.
Lebron hasn’t been higher than a play-in team, with AD on his team and historic ft discrepancies. He’s 1-8 in his last 2 playoff series, he’s not dominating anything
@@deadflies4265 LBJ plays in a Mary Kay DNA NBA. Compared to MJ he's dead prey on display. Con Queen with estrogen in bloodstream. Male menopause no need for clam gauze. Camel toe mentality is Massengill creamery. RuPaul in high-heels. Calls himself king but nobody kneels.
It's obvious that if you are in the media game you HAVE to exalt this dude, Lebron. Put all the guys on a lie detector test and let's see if they really believe this shit
He'd be clowned on regardless, right? These guys (KG included) competed against Bron and got bamboozled on most of those occasions. So what would he get for giving him praise now of all times? Now posit this, maybe, just maybe, he (who competed against the guy, not us sitting at our comfy couches) might have come in to terms that some guys are a cut above the rest, and that those prior statements he said was just him being petty and still with that competitive juice flowing in him. Do you mean to tell me no person can ever change his mind? No one can realise things later on? Or things would stay the same forever? COME ON NOW, WAKE YOURSELF UP!
Jordan didn't play in the Olympics every year. He won a gold medal in college and the NBA. In 1996 he said I'm going to let other people have a chance to win gold. They was blowing teams out by a average of 44 points. Do you really think he couldn't have ran up 4 or 5 gold medals? He only played twice and it wasn't competition so he didn't keep going. Do your research.
He did it in an era where basketball around the world was on a lower level than it is now. You think that ‘92 dream team with bad back Bird and old Magic would beat this years Serbian team by 44? Be honest.
How do you compare different eras, different playing styles, different positions, different teams, and teammates Only person MJ should be compared to is Kobe
As far as playing style, sure . As far as dominance, you can list all three . I admit that I also don't like the disrespect that Kobe has been receiving ever since he passed .
@@DomBrownONLINE Cap . Maybe from those that seen him play, and appreciate the game, but you literally have people now saying that he not even top 3-5 all-time .
More players have mj as the goat than they do lebron these same players also stated he wasn't the goat either they trying to stay relevant or they getting paid
@DJJE928 you clearly do t know basketball if you think he paying people to say he was the goat why you think so many people wanted to be like him including kobe who shut lebron down in that all star game the last few mins he couldn't even score on kobe
KG & Pierce , the MJ fans y’all age or older don’t care about Lebron stats or records . They Seen mike win 6 rings a buy his shoes that helps the prison systems . Lebron is nothing in their eyes 😂
@@choppabrown3741well if winning is what you guys care about… might as well stop the hypocrisy and praise Bill Russell. Oh wait I forgot… Jordan fans like to diminish Bill’s accolades too and say he was in a weak era. Anything to protect the name.
The Lebron James' goat conversation will be very interesting when he retires. KG and Paul Pierce are only clout chasing. I don't know how "the greatest to do it" is being converted to "great for the longest time". They cant even say what makes him the greatest without emphasizing on the longevity. It is just crazy
@@Mon3ymike90 No one said longevity is not a factor. Longevity can not override a player better than you in all ramification (accomplishment, eye test and Stats) within a shorter period, it is called productivity & efficiency. We want to use longevity over stats too, so that we can eradicate per game stats. Why do NBA use per game stats for the awards instead of season stats? A man who work 6 hours and produced 60 bags is more efficient than a man who worked 10 hours and produced 80 bags. Instead, Lebron's clowns will emphasize on the 80 bags which no organization's policy, economy policy & principles etc will back up except Lebron's clowns and their brains
It literally baffles me how people say Lebron played in a weak era and how his 4-6 is damaging when literally you got guys shooting from nearly half court, 7 footers are shooting 3s, guards are explosive AF, shots are a lot harder to make with contact, and he’s played against at least a third of the top 75 players. Did y’all see the shot Steph made against France? You think that was in the 90s?
He adapted him game... Dude played in the league with SHAQ AND KOBE still on the leakers LMAO. He adapted from non shooting forward. To a triple threat in a matter of 20 years.
@Jamal-vz9wh no tf is wasn't shut up smh sooooo kobe,kG, Ben Wallace, Rashid Wallace, Paul pierce, Tayshawn prince, Shaquille, Amar'e S and tony Allan and Ron artest just to name a few I can keep going you Obviously you didn't know the league back then.
The Eastern Conference was weak. Plenty of under 500 teams making the playoffs. No rival. That Toronto team just didn’t have the horses. If LeBron was in the west, he wouldn’t have all those appearances. That’s why his record is below .500 And you know what is crazy? Is he didn’t have to go through the giants. If you had a big shot changing center, you could give LeBron problems. Duncan gave him problems, Tyson Chandler gave him problems, Bogut before he got hurt in those finals was giving him problems. It was a perfect storm for him. I don’t LeBron had enough game for most of his career to get through a Shaq, Duncan, Robinson, or Hakeem. If Duncan and LeBron’s prime was at the same time. I think there’s no doubt who would have came out on top. Jordan had to make his way through the trees.
A recitation from a conversation Bill Russell and Michael Jordan had during a round of golf game. ‘I think he is a great player and I have the ultimate regard for him. He says one time we were in the middle of a golf course, he says; they just won a championship” okay, he says “you know we’re going to go after your record”. And I said which one? Well, I said we won 11 but we won 8 straight. I told him; I don't think you will live long enough to get either one of those. He says, “but it’s easy to win championships when you played”, and so I said Well, think about it this way. When I was a rookie, there were 80 jobs in professional basketball; so a lot of good players didn't make it. I said, if there were only 12 teams you wouldn't win a championship. He said “why?” I said, because you did a great job in penetrating, and you dished out to Paxson and he hits his open shot and won the game. Well, If there were 12 teams in the league, he couldn't have made that shot! He said, “why not”, I said; because he’d be up in the stands. And that’s not a knock on him it's just the talk about the quality of the NBA.’ Bill Russell
I wish people could understand that. And each year of an expansion lowered the quality of the league obviously over time the teams would evolve and the league would grow but almost every expansion year lead to less competition because new teams never come in competitive so it’s a bye week for every other team. So for 82 games a season the quality of play from at least the expansion teams were awful.
@coreythomas3633 😂😂Jordan made Pippen and Phil. LeBron 🏃♀️ to proven HOFers Wade and bosh, Kyrie and love, AD and Westbrook and still came up short with no 3peat insight 😢😢
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 what did kyrie achieve to make him a hall of famer without bron? Pippen made it further without mike than mike ever made it without pippen.
@tyleredwards970 🤣 😂 in his 3 yrs kryie was ROTY, multiple All-Star and All-Star mvp before LeBron 🏃♀️ to Kyrie. Pippen was a bench player who was carried when he came to Chicago. Jordan raised Pippen. Pippen had a 3peat team intact, Hakeem and Barkley Rockets, plus a stacked Portland team that made the WCF the yr before, and Pippen won nothing, not even a Finals appearance. Jordan turned a provety franchise into the GOAT dynasty of the modern era.
Paul is prolly brons biggest hater of all time and for him to give him his flowers is a big statement. I’ve been convinced, for the love of basketball and understanding what we are witnessing I can’t deny it anymore.
Bruh I can not tell yall how much I hold the big ticket in high regard in respect to basketball. KG has the best attitude and presence imo. My top 5 favorite players, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, LeBron James. And when it’s all said and done probably Victor Wembanyama. My favorite players to watch
That or they trying to get views. Everybody know they despised bron😂 so this is a chance for them to say sum a lil controversial/positive about lebron to get views.
He has still won LESS than Jordan despite playing twice as long. What the hell is so hard to understand about that simple fact. He isn't the GOAT, deal with it.
I played ball I respected both of you dudes until hearing this. It’s bugged out hearing yall say a dude that teamed up with 3 or 4 allstars since the age of 25 is over Mike is crazy. The greatest scorer ever averaged 31 points a game for his entire career. The greatest scorer ever is the man who has the most scoring titles in league history. Not to mention that BALCO he’s been using since probably high school. I didnt make it to the NBA because of a career changing injury, but KG I know you respect that because Ronnie Fields is still probably the best you ever played with.
Get out of your feelings 🤡 no one cares. You just confirmed your a casual and a hater 😂 and wasted writing all that. I stopped after your first sentence because your a delusional 🤡
All the travel violations he has committed automatically disqualified him as the goat. The greatest basketball player of all time should at least abide by the basketball rules.
I can't respect a dude running to another man's to win chips 😂😂😂 yall keep pushing this longevity bs he chasing a dude that retired in 2003 and he still won more in less time with less help...
Nobody cares what a nondescript nobody hiding behind a keyboard thinks. Lebron gets respect from all-time legends: Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Isiah Thomas, Larry Bird, etc... Now even haters like KG and Paul Pierce are paying homage to the King. Nobody knows you bro.
Kevin Garnett and Paul Perce both lost credibility as NBA analysts. Great former NBA players, but that's it. Charles Barkley and Allen Iverson both have a very different take on this.
WOW.... A lot of peoples heads exploded here with facts. The dude has played at and elite level a very long time....and the definition of greatness is being good over a long period of time.
Not to be that guy but I feel like this is a calculated play by Pierce to make him look better "I was rivals with the GOAT", "I beat the GOAT", or "When I lost it was to the goat" etc. Make himself look better in comparison.
Ppl forget basketball is a team sport Do you want a player who just scores and plays D or a player who scores rebounds assist and plays defense on a elite level
@@statusofmyown9829I’m guessing you’re the type of person to say he should have guarded curry, Klay and Durant all at once? Weak ahhh comment. That was the avengers vs thanos. If he guarded one dude, another spot was open.
Only choke is the Dallas one. When you say weak mentality I know you lying through your teeth cuz the man has led his team for 21 years and counting. When it comes to team swapping, Lebron was drafted to one of the worst franchises ever. Can you blame the guy for wanting help? It’s a 5v5 game not a 1v5 game. People really think one man can beat an entire team. I don’t see nobody complain about the warriors, spurs big 3, Celtics big 3, even Jordan had a big 3. It takes good teammates to win anything.
The man knows what’s up! All around play. My god he is the king 👑 long live the king 👑 when he’s gone… oh my god.. the nba is going to be so different and miss he play 🎉just respect ✊
You forgot he got to skip 2 years from the game for rest hence when he came back and lost. Had to go get help with Rodman to beat Shaq and penny. Him and pippen couldn't do it.
You a casual... game / pace changed from the 90's nobody was shooting 30 footers back then game was played from inside to midrange. Mj played more 82 gm seasons because there was no 7 sec and shoot with spacing.
This is my 2 cents. For me it’s all about style. Jordan looked like Picasso, painting a drawing in a basketball game. Lebron is and always will be a man child. A freak of nature unstoppable. He will not be seen again in decades. At the end he obtain the same if not better results. But lebron just walks up and puts it in. Mj puts it in and then walks up.
What happened to winning? Does winning not matter anymore? What happened to defense? What happened to loyalty? When did overall stats become end all be all? Since when are blemishes on a resume not blemishes? Losing in record fashion on the biggest stage doesn't matter? Going to join another super star and playing absolutely terrible as the "best player in the world" getting 8 points in one game and then getting 17.8 for the series and losing again doesn't matter? Man you 2 are disappointing now. What the fuck happened to you guys
does he not have 4 championships and 4 finals mvps? does he not have 41 playoff series wins? the most playoff wins ever? what about that is not winning?
@sportstalkonly1442 I guess you didn't read my comment in full.. you can't have lebrons blemishes when MJ didn't have anything close to those poor performances
@@Jjcbgoat Exactly. “Jordan played against plumbers” = narrative. Not a fact. You can’t even prove your point cause you don’t know enough about basketball history 🫵🏼😂
I like what they said, LeBron was callrd the King when he was in high school know was calling MJ anything before his NBA career started, and LBJ lived up to that and surpassed that expectation
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 👎 "chasing the ghost" has nothing to do with Jordan *apparently you dont know the term "chasing ghost" or its actual meaning* 🔻 *chasing ghost is a "surfing term" = riding a wave* (it's the encouraging words the adults gave him growing up) because THEY knew he was special .. so when Lebron said he's "chasing ghost" Lebron was referring to HIS OWN legacy that started in highschool when he a PHENOM in football & basketball .. Lebron went on to be an NBA player, which enabled him to accomplishing his dreams just like he planned (off the court AND on the court) ... AND HE DID JUST THAT (mission accomplished) duh!!
Here's something to think about before the haters start typing....Bron could've retired 5-0 in the Finals,Scoring Champ and 6 MVP's and the haters will still say hes not the greatest lmao😂🍻🍺
For those who still don't understand, I'm just saying don't get too mad about this clip because if Bron career went a other way....haters will still cry LOL #DoubleEdgedSword
@@duffman1876 don’t you have to work with what happened though? It’d be way closer if those were his stats. Anyone saying otherwise would be crazy indeed.
I like Lebron but MJ will forever be the GOAT. At the end of the day Jordan won more, has crazy stats, was dominating on both ends on a nightly basis, more skillful and lastly how he impacted the game and sports worldwide is why he always been the goat
At the end of the day the only argument for Jordan is the rings and oldheads will never accept that LeBron is better so no need to have that discussion
@@daymi5817 This is sports, winning matters more than stats. Y’all always use only Lebron’s assist and rebounds stats which aren’t the only stats in the world like Jordan ain’t got ridiculous stats as well in most categories plus the rings to go along
@@choppabrown3741 so then bill Russel is the goat if we go by rings see how that goes the rings can’t be the deciding factor. Also it’s a team effort as far as I know so you can’t just give all the praise to Jordan.
KG and Pierce can’t make up their mind if LeBron is the goat or not. They say he ain’t this and that cuz they don’t like him and then they say he’s the goat.
Boo hoo hoo. 😂. Like kg said u have to call a spade a spade. Either u watch this man or u didn't. Put your feeling and mis remembering of the trash 🗑 can 80s and 90s to bed 🛌
What is the criteria? You can't say rings because Kareem got 6 too. What would MJ have done against the 2017, 2018 Warriors? No one will ever be as good as Lebron for as long. This guy looks the same in year 21 as he did in year 1
@@JohnDoe-k5r Dude rings matter a lot. Winning matters more than stats in sports. Kareem always had a legitimate case to be in the top two. Cause he won more than Lebron and was also a dominant player
😂😂it's everything. Playing longer doesn't make you better. Jordan has better per game and advanced stats than LeBron accomplished more in less time individually and team wise. Jordan has 6 chips and 6-FMVPs.
LeBron is the most physically gifted player to hit the court. He met expectations coming out of high school that he may be the best we've ever seen and his longevity cannot be questioned... but Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player the NBA has known. There is nothing wrong with LeBron being the second best above some of the best to ever do it
Not these clowns again …saying MJ wasn’t able to do what LeBron did …. Put it to you like this LeBron was able to do what MJ did didn’t MJ 3 peak twice.. MJ never been swept in the finals …. MJ never went ring chasing….. to be honest with yall I put curry over lebron …. Curry is 3-1 against lebron in the finals…..
@@ヤギ7he wasn't even the goat at the NBA 75th anniversary ceremony if he wouldn't have joined Dwade he wouldn't have 4 rings and if they wouldn't have came up with the play in tournament he wouldn't even have that bubble ring the game is watered down today and extremely boring
MJ Messi Tom Brady Jerry Rice Serena Williams Roger Federer Tiger Woods All those goats have something in common, they’re all winners. Lebron James is the only so called goat to have a losing championship record. And dude is so insecure. That’s your goat? Lmao. Kids smh
Your right. After all is said and done, he can't be above Magic with his Leadership and track record represented by his titles. Exact same thing with Kareem. But if you look closely and ignore all the noise, it is quite clear that he is not above Kobe. with his Defensive All teams, high scoring output(single game, not longevity a.k.a Karl Malone like) and winning track record. Not to mention going to the finals three times in a row in two different eras with and without shaq. The only real argument Lebron has over Kobe is Mvps, which upon further scrutiny are decided upon by biased writers. Guys that sit in boardrooms like ernie Johnson (my man but still) and some of the most annoying talking heads. If anyone looks back on history objectively it is clear to see that Kobe was robbed of mvp by Nash and Nowitzki and possibly once against Duncan. He was def the best player in the league but fell out of favor due to his court case and his general cocky disposition which he later rebranded. If being objective Kobe is def above Lebron, but if caught up in current politics and unable to tell this might sound absurd to you. Nevertheless, He can't be better than Shaq! Sure they rigged things so now it seems like they have the same amount of titles. But Shaq has real titles and was more dominant. On the other hand Bron has 3 and a bubble. We can't just pretend that many people in the human race were not fearful of their lives and dying family members. Some things are more important than basketball. Especially in times of tragic crisis. You wanna count that bubble ring? Cool. But it's not the same. And if you could draft a young Lebron or a young Shaq who are you taking? I thought so. He can't be better than Duncan because not only does Duncan have more success, but Duncan beat Shaq and Kobe, and Bron with an entire super team. If we are actually being fair Duncan never had the calibur of players Lebron has had as teammates and he was still far more successful 😂😂 Obviously the most successful player is Jordan like him or not, because he was 6 for 6 on the big stage without even a game 7. He also won defensive player of the year while leading the league in scoring in that same year. Lebron is def a top ten player for sure. We have never seen anyone like him. But we must respect the game, and what every gave to it . let's not overshadow legends. Lebron and Steph are on a similar plane but Lebron is greater. He proved that when they went head to head on the big stage. Plus both men's body language revealed who the bully and the bullied were. Bird also did not win enough to be as great as Bron. Malone never won although his longevity stats are great like Kareem and Lebron. That being said. Lebron is likely the sixth greatest player the game has ever seen. And that ain't nothing to sneeze at🎉🎉🎉
Have your opinion but LBJ is a thoroughbred. He was meant to be an athlete. And more importantly he has fully tapped into the God-given spirit and virtues that breed success in ANY endeavor. Patience self control and discipline.
Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett have told the truthful answer who's the goat, MJ or LJ. Their choice between MJ and LJ demonstrate impartiality and rationality. Actually, only hater full of jealousy and envy cannot give LJ the benefit of the doubt.
We have never seen mj lead both finals teams in points, assist, steals, blocks, and rebounds and Bron did that beating the most winning team ever greatest shooters ever. Bron has the most 1st teams, most all teams, scores the most not leading the nba in shot attempts 9 times like MJ 🤣🤣 and way better passer than mj not even up for debate. Bron has highest basketball iq while mj had the greatest coach theres a big difference. We seen Bron get to the finals with rosters mj wouldn’t get to the finals. Meanwhile Lebron and pippen would have dominated
@@nydibs how he didn’t do that in the finals and beat 73 win team. Jokic beat Jimmy butler in the finals. Bron lead his team in the finals 7 times in points, assist and rebounds. We can wait for jokic he’s only been to 1 nba finals. Jokic just lost to a 22 year old. When did that happen to prime Lebron I’ll wait.
@@moneymoney3235 - Jokic swept Lebron to get to the finals, and led the entire playoffs in points, rebounds and assists Jokic is 12-1vs Lebron and the Lakers over the last 3 seasons. Therefore, using your logic, Jokic must be the goat
@@moneymoney3235 I mean yeah if you ignore all Jordan’s accomplishments sure. Just quick ones, He had 10 scoring titles, the most by far. 9 defensive first teams to lebron’s 5. He was season steal leader three times and defensive player of the year, as a guard at that. Lebron doesn’t have those…when he was moved to point guard he averaged a triple double so it’s not like he couldn’t pass that just wasn’t his job and the bulls didn’t have someone like wade until Scottie developed. And why do you conclude he wouldn’t bring those same teams to the finals? Michael Jordan definitely has the skills to drag those teams through that awful eastern conference from like 2011-2018. And yeah more championships as the main player.
Look at these hypocrites… So since when did longevity equal the GOAT? Sick of these clowns. So why Kareem not the goat KD and Paul? Lebron isn’t the goat it’s MJ and u know it.
Paul pierce became a Lebron fan before gta 6😭
AND he got the shirt on to prove it 🤣
Hahaha...😂😂
"NO EMOTION NO NOTHING CALL A SPADE A SPADE”- KG
Steph Curry is way better than Lebron,,, more skilled...never jumped ship when it got tough, saved Lebron in the Olympics, 4 championships (no bubble ring)...stop
@@100yearsofwealth 🤡
@@100yearsofwealthcurry himself wouldn't agree with you lol
@@100yearsofwealthand only one finals MVP 😂😂😂😂. Stop it!
@@MysteryMan725 Only unaminous MVP in NBA history. Lol. Stop it.
KG ain’t say nothing wrong🔥
WE been saying it all along 👑LEBRON🐐
while KG was running from the truth "and" paul pierce could NEVER face "the truth"
Paul Pierce used to hate LeBron and was his biggest critic, so it is nice to see him acknowledge LeBron as the GOAT.
He on his payroll lmao keep his job just say I am best ever an u get paid lmao
He changed it after this
Funny how you conflate criticism with hate
He used to beat Lebron, so by him being the goat he elevates himself.
@@DracoTheDragonSlayer You could say the same thing about players in MJ's era
I've been watching since the late 80s. And the level of skill has skyrocketted since the 2000s and parity today is at an all time high. Yet here's Lebron still dominating with diminished athleticism. Every move you can think of, the guy has a highlight reel: dunks, midrange, logo 3s, precision passing, playmaking and reading defense, chase downs blocks, circus shots, clutch shots and he's done it night in and night out, under extreme scrutiny for over 2 decades. Jordan had to stop to compose himself even though he was competing in the watered down era. Imo, James is the most complete basketball player and his rings were taken from legitimately all time great teams and generational players.
Lebron hasn’t been higher than a play-in team, with AD on his team and historic ft discrepancies. He’s 1-8 in his last 2 playoff series, he’s not dominating anything
well said
@@nydibsur miserable lmaooo
@@nydibsso we talaking team achievements at 36 years of age?
mj at the wizards? how did that go?
Except he doesn't play much defense and his teams allow a lot of points. Casuals don't consider defensive stats.
Why does everyone forget that Lebron is also 4th on the ALL TIME ASSIST LEADERS LIST?! He passed STEVE NASH! He the Goat! 🐐
4th? Didn’t know that. 🐐
Because hes also 1st in missed field goals and 1st in most turnovers of all time.
@@mickeydusk and your point is?
@@mickeyduskit’s crazy cause even with all of that he still has less shots attempted then mj
@@mickeyduskdoesn’t matter when you’re first all time in points and 4th in assist idiot
Paul Pierce says LeBron is the GOAT.
Enough said 👨✈️🇺🇸👑🐐
A superior small-forward (Dr. J) doesn't even have King Con in his top 10 cause Massengill Mentality "led the charge in terms of super teams."
@@katrinachavez3533 oh ok
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@@LukaLegend77 Monistat cat.
@@deadflies4265 LBJ plays in a Mary Kay DNA NBA. Compared to MJ he's dead prey on display. Con Queen with estrogen in bloodstream. Male menopause no need for clam gauze. Camel toe mentality is Massengill creamery. RuPaul in high-heels. Calls himself king but nobody kneels.
KG dropping a dribble while saying “Think How Many Buckets You Gotta Put Up” is the true definition of a hooper on God
All facts cause I’m 38 and I can’t even touch the rim no more LoL 😂
Paul pierce was a Lebron hater. He’s switching the script now to make sure he gets to stay in media.
Or he’s older and doesn’t have the same “beef” with Lebron so he can now speak objectively on how he feels?
He also gets to say he beat the goat 😂
yuuuuup, aint like espn going to bring him back after the blunts and cheeks video
@@kaekae1782how u gonna speak objectively and call Lebron the goat ? Those 2 don’t go together well . Anyone with a brain can see he is top 7 max
@@shelbyhaiketic4212😂😂😂😂😂 brown is at least top 2
Just last year this fool was saying Lebron isn't a top 10 player alltime!!! That's why these debates are an absolute joke.
It's obvious that if you are in the media game you HAVE to exalt this dude, Lebron. Put all the guys on a lie detector test and let's see if they really believe this shit
He'd be clowned on regardless, right? These guys (KG included) competed against Bron and got bamboozled on most of those occasions. So what would he get for giving him praise now of all times? Now posit this, maybe, just maybe, he (who competed against the guy, not us sitting at our comfy couches) might have come in to terms that some guys are a cut above the rest, and that those prior statements he said was just him being petty and still with that competitive juice flowing in him. Do you mean to tell me no person can ever change his mind? No one can realise things later on? Or things would stay the same forever? COME ON NOW, WAKE YOURSELF UP!
He realize and made sense now 😅
He said that because of his rivalry... man put that aside to speak facts
Naa after the scoring title record they both admitted was goat
Jordan didn't play in the Olympics every year. He won a gold medal in college and the NBA. In 1996 he said I'm going to let other people have a chance to win gold. They was blowing teams out by a average of 44 points. Do you really think he couldn't have ran up 4 or 5 gold medals? He only played twice and it wasn't competition so he didn't keep going. Do your research.
He did it in an era where basketball around the world was on a lower level than it is now. You think that ‘92 dream team with bad back Bird and old Magic would beat this years Serbian team by 44? Be honest.
How do you compare different eras, different playing styles, different positions, different teams, and teammates
Only person MJ should be compared to is Kobe
As far as playing style, sure . As far as dominance, you can list all three . I admit that I also don't like the disrespect that Kobe has been receiving ever since he passed .
MJ played absolutely no one in a water-down 90s era.
MJ fans are the most insecure little puppies in all of sports.
@@cerebralxhunterKobe gets more praise now than he did before he died.
@@DomBrownONLINE Cap . Maybe from those that seen him play, and appreciate the game, but you literally have people now saying that he not even top 3-5 all-time .
@@DomBrownONLINE True!
MJ fans: players have better opinions about goat debate
When a player says LeBron: they are stupid lol
Lebron fans: When a player says LeBron is the goat, their opinions matters. When they don't, they are stupid lol
lmao they can’t believe someone could possibly touch their precious MJ😂 they just like Bronsexuals fr
More players have mj as the goat than they do lebron these same players also stated he wasn't the goat either they trying to stay relevant or they getting paid
@@demetriusjohnson684then Michael is paying people too.
@DJJE928 you clearly do t know basketball if you think he paying people to say he was the goat why you think so many people wanted to be like him including kobe who shut lebron down in that all star game the last few mins he couldn't even score on kobe
KG & Pierce , the MJ fans y’all age or older don’t care about Lebron stats or records . They Seen mike win 6 rings a buy his shoes that helps the prison systems . Lebron is nothing in their eyes 😂
@@markiceharbor2082 This is sports, winning on the highest level matters more than stats. MJ got both
@@choppabrown3741well if winning is what you guys care about… might as well stop the hypocrisy and praise Bill Russell. Oh wait I forgot… Jordan fans like to diminish Bill’s accolades too and say he was in a weak era. Anything to protect the name.
@@SoraTh33xplorer
The more you elevate Bill Russell, the more Lebron's empty stats fall
😂😂😂 Ah that's the wrong Michael Jordan,,u people I swear don't know anything.
That’s not even the same Michael Jordan yall literally are goofy a f for running with that narrative lol
King jizzle! That commercial with that handshake though😂😂🤣🤣
Lebron 1st nemesis just crowned him "🐐" speaks volumes
The Lebron James' goat conversation will be very interesting when he retires. KG and Paul Pierce are only clout chasing. I don't know how "the greatest to do it" is being converted to "great for the longest time". They cant even say what makes him the greatest without emphasizing on the longevity. It is just crazy
Sounds like you gonna cry too😂😂😂 bunch of man babies on here😂😂😂😂
I mean, the longevity is a huge factor lol. No one else has been this good for this long. How can they not mention it?
@@Mon3ymike90 No one said longevity is not a factor. Longevity can not override a player better than you in all ramification (accomplishment, eye test and Stats) within a shorter period, it is called productivity & efficiency. We want to use longevity over stats too, so that we can eradicate per game stats. Why do NBA use per game stats for the awards instead of season stats? A man who work 6 hours and produced 60 bags is more efficient than a man who worked 10 hours and produced 80 bags. Instead, Lebron's clowns will emphasize on the 80 bags which no organization's policy, economy policy & principles etc will back up except Lebron's clowns and their brains
@@Wargee4978well said
@@Wargee4978 hater enjoy witnessing greatness best selfless all around greatest player of all time
Hell must've froze if Paul giving credit to lebron
Or he seeing the truth (no pun intended).
He been nice since 15 n still playing is crazy bro no retirement
It literally baffles me how people say Lebron played in a weak era and how his 4-6 is damaging when literally you got guys shooting from nearly half court, 7 footers are shooting 3s, guards are explosive AF, shots are a lot harder to make with contact, and he’s played against at least a third of the top 75 players. Did y’all see the shot Steph made against France? You think that was in the 90s?
He adapted him game... Dude played in the league with SHAQ AND KOBE still on the leakers LMAO. He adapted from non shooting forward. To a triple threat in a matter of 20 years.
Yes it was and in 2000’s too...why do y’all ppl think basketball just started in 2020? 😂
@Jamal-vz9wh no tf is wasn't shut up smh sooooo kobe,kG, Ben Wallace, Rashid Wallace, Paul pierce, Tayshawn prince, Shaquille, Amar'e S and tony Allan and Ron artest just to name a few I can keep going you Obviously you didn't know the league back then.
@@GH-vz3wdbro wtf u even arguing about? Do u even know? 😂
The Eastern Conference was weak. Plenty of under 500 teams making the playoffs. No rival. That Toronto team just didn’t have the horses. If LeBron was in the west, he wouldn’t have all those appearances. That’s why his record is below .500
And you know what is crazy? Is he didn’t have to go through the giants. If you had a big shot changing center, you could give LeBron problems. Duncan gave him problems, Tyson Chandler gave him problems, Bogut before he got hurt in those finals was giving him problems.
It was a perfect storm for him. I don’t LeBron had enough game for most of his career to get through a Shaq, Duncan, Robinson, or Hakeem.
If Duncan and LeBron’s prime was at the same time. I think there’s no doubt who would have came out on top.
Jordan had to make his way through the trees.
FINALLY these 2 are able to ADMIT what was ALWAYS evident 👑LEBRON🐐
(KG & PP were running from the truth all along)
A recitation from a conversation Bill Russell and Michael Jordan had during a round of golf game.
‘I think he is a great player and I have the ultimate regard for him. He says one time we were in the middle of a golf course, he says; they just won a championship”
okay, he says “you know we’re going to go after your record”.
And I said which one? Well, I said we won 11 but we won 8 straight. I told him; I don't think you will live long enough to get either one of those.
He says, “but it’s easy to win championships when you played”, and so I said Well, think about it this way. When I was a rookie, there were 80 jobs in professional basketball; so a lot of good players didn't make it.
I said, if there were only 12 teams you wouldn't win a championship. He said “why?” I said, because you did a great job in penetrating, and you dished out to Paxson and he hits his open shot and won the game. Well, If there were 12 teams in the league, he couldn't have made that shot! He said, “why not”, I said; because he’d be up in the stands. And that’s not a knock on him it's just the talk about the quality of the NBA.’
Bill Russell
LEBRON THE GOAT.. Mj is 1-9 loser can't win without phill Jackson or david stern. Scottie saved mj lagacy..
I wish people could understand that. And each year of an expansion lowered the quality of the league obviously over time the teams would evolve and the league would grow but almost every expansion year lead to less competition because new teams never come in competitive so it’s a bye week for every other team. So for 82 games a season the quality of play from at least the expansion teams were awful.
@coreythomas3633 😂😂Jordan made Pippen and Phil. LeBron 🏃♀️ to proven HOFers Wade and bosh, Kyrie and love, AD and Westbrook and still came up short with no 3peat insight 😢😢
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 what did kyrie achieve to make him a hall of famer without bron? Pippen made it further without mike than mike ever made it without pippen.
@tyleredwards970 🤣 😂 in his 3 yrs kryie was ROTY, multiple All-Star and All-Star mvp before LeBron 🏃♀️ to Kyrie. Pippen was a bench player who was carried when he came to Chicago. Jordan raised Pippen. Pippen had a 3peat team intact, Hakeem and Barkley Rockets, plus a stacked Portland team that made the WCF the yr before, and Pippen won nothing, not even a Finals appearance.
Jordan turned a provety franchise into the GOAT dynasty of the modern era.
Paul is prolly brons biggest hater of all time and for him to give him his flowers is a big statement. I’ve been convinced, for the love of basketball and understanding what we are witnessing I can’t deny it anymore.
*@Nick-n2b* NIKE told-ya on that GIANT billboard in Cleveland
WE are ALL witnesses (finally you get it)
lol I’m 38 and play like I’m 28 but I had kids at 21 and don’t have a 1/4 of the mileage as Lebron. Much respect to LBJ.
1/100 of the mileage i suppose bro.
😂😂😂😂
*while on PEDs
@@Vibesstar007imback that too lol
@@ambientsounds5832lol but no. I might not be running and jump but my job got me walking 5-15 miles a day sometimes 20. So I stand corrected bro.
I can’t believe pierce is giving him his flowers I’m thrilled to see this
Wow! One day they say one thing, tomorrow they say another! It shows that they have already been sold!
Bruh I can not tell yall how much I hold the big ticket in high regard in respect to basketball. KG has the best attitude and presence imo. My top 5 favorite players, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, LeBron James. And when it’s all said and done probably Victor Wembanyama. My favorite players to watch
Yall getting paid to say this
That or they trying to get views. Everybody know they despised bron😂 so this is a chance for them to say sum a lil controversial/positive about lebron to get views.
Lebron is 8th in steals but he they say he isn't a defender? Kobe is 16th in steals and less per game than King James.
He never won défense player of the year
@@TheMainGoat9he got robbed
This was last year, now he's 39, about to be 40 just won the Olympics 🏅 medal and MVP. What more expectations can he not accomplish?
4-10 in finals. roided up.
He has still won LESS than Jordan despite playing twice as long.
What the hell is so hard to understand about that simple fact.
He isn't the GOAT, deal with it.
I mean we do say what’s the best car based off longevity, so they do have a point
I played ball I respected both of you dudes until hearing this. It’s bugged out hearing yall say a dude that teamed up with 3 or 4 allstars since the age of 25 is over Mike is crazy. The greatest scorer ever averaged 31 points a game for his entire career. The greatest scorer ever is the man who has the most scoring titles in league history. Not to mention that BALCO he’s been using since probably high school. I didnt make it to the NBA because of a career changing injury, but KG I know you respect that because Ronnie Fields is still probably the best you ever played with.
Lmao you don’t think Jordan was shooting up huh
Nobody care about your feelings
Oh no, another stranger has lost respect for another stranger...😂😂😂
Get out of your feelings 🤡 no one cares. You just confirmed your a casual and a hater 😂 and wasted writing all that. I stopped after your first sentence because your a delusional 🤡
@@dfynestmax8716legit lol. What a fool
All the travel violations he has committed automatically disqualified him as the goat. The greatest basketball player of all time should at least abide by the basketball rules.
haters like YOU should "learn" the rules
1-9 without pippen
Who is this guy 😂😂😂😂, you came out from nowhere
Lebron played 82 games 1 time in his career
Si
40,000+ pts 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He will end his career with a 50pc
Don’t need 82 games…GOAT JAMES
@@kayKay-py1dy in a soft ass league where there is no defense and nothing but open 3s
I can't respect a dude running to another man's to win chips 😂😂😂 yall keep pushing this longevity bs he chasing a dude that retired in 2003 and he still won more in less time with less help...
Guess it’s good that your respect doesn’t mean anything in the long run
@@mrpresident2721 Facts 😂
Whats worse is hyping lebron for winning a gold while playing with other superstars.... while KD has 4 golds and all-time olympic scorer
Oh no, some stranger doesn't have your respect...how will he ever make it😂😂😂 don't flatter yourself 🤡🤡🤡
Nobody cares what a nondescript nobody hiding behind a keyboard thinks. Lebron gets respect from all-time legends: Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Isiah Thomas, Larry Bird, etc... Now even haters like KG and Paul Pierce are paying homage to the King. Nobody knows you bro.
watched 2009 lebron cavalier highlights, dude was a monster on defense
except in the playoffs that year should'dve been kobe vs lebron.
Kevin Garnett and Paul Perce both lost credibility as NBA analysts. Great former NBA players, but that's it.
Charles Barkley and Allen Iverson both have a very different take on this.
And why should Charles and Ai opinion matter more then KG n Paul ? Brain dead take
He’s their goat because he beat em
This is called coping 😂
The same reasoning that every player from nineties uses, then you morons say “sEe dUh gReAtS kNow, deY pLaYed aGainSt him, caSE cLoSeD durrrr🥴🥴”
WOW.... A lot of peoples heads exploded here with facts. The dude has played at and elite level a very long time....and the definition of greatness is being good over a long period of time.
Not to be that guy but I feel like this is a calculated play by Pierce to make him look better "I was rivals with the GOAT", "I beat the GOAT", or "When I lost it was to the goat" etc.
Make himself look better in comparison.
No Scottie No rings 😂😂😂
MJ made Scottie. 🤦🏾♂
No Dewayne Wade, no Anthony Davis, no Kyrie Irving, no 4 rings lol. Dude stop it
@@Zorfle that sounds stupid
@@Zorfle so who made MJ, you talking about the way they compete in practice
@@Zorfle Scottie was born ready, y u think A man made a man when he got drafted like MJ Clown
😂😂 They don't stop right away.
Ppl forget basketball is a team sport Do you want a player who just scores and plays D or a player who scores rebounds assist and plays defense on a elite level
Mike plays Def elite
Lebron don't play defense at a Elite level if that was the case He would've took it upon himself to guard KD in the 2017 & 2018 NBA Finals
@@statusofmyown9829I’m guessing you’re the type of person to say he should have guarded curry, Klay and Durant all at once? Weak ahhh comment. That was the avengers vs thanos. If he guarded one dude, another spot was open.
Thank you bro kd aver 35 on Iman @@statusofmyown9829
@@SoraTh33xplorerstop wit the excuses
-86 plus minus in the finals series... Got a clear shot to the finals for a few years and played with the most stars
There is nothing LBJ can do to open the eyes of the haters. Simply the 🐐
😂😂playing longer doesn't make you better.
4 rings in 22 years lol and 2 were on a superteam
Nit good enough
Leflop 😂
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 how is that a good logic at all😂
@@Neta_kits
Logic can't be good, it's either sound or it's not (ie: Lebron is the greatest)
The fans will never embrace him as the goat, too many chokes, weak mentality, weak team swapping
Speak for yourself. He's the GOAT for me And my circle of friends 🧡
Stop projecting
Only choke is the Dallas one. When you say weak mentality I know you lying through your teeth cuz the man has led his team for 21 years and counting. When it comes to team swapping, Lebron was drafted to one of the worst franchises ever. Can you blame the guy for wanting help? It’s a 5v5 game not a 1v5 game. People really think one man can beat an entire team. I don’t see nobody complain about the warriors, spurs big 3, Celtics big 3, even Jordan had a big 3. It takes good teammates to win anything.
@@SoraTh33xplorer
weak AF mentality
@@toya3422 Your right only in your family circle 😂😂
The man knows what’s up! All around play. My god he is the king 👑 long live the king 👑 when he’s gone… oh my god.. the nba is going to be so different and miss he play 🎉just respect ✊
MJ had more 82 Games Seasons than Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Kawhi, Curry and D-Wade COMBINED. Imagine that😂
And by the way only 14 seasons.😂
You forgot he got to skip 2 years from the game for rest hence when he came back and lost. Had to go get help with Rodman to beat Shaq and penny. Him and pippen couldn't do it.
You a casual... game / pace changed from the 90's nobody was shooting 30 footers back then game was played from inside to midrange. Mj played more 82 gm seasons because there was no 7 sec and shoot with spacing.
he played many 82 Games Correct. But Who plays More Games than Lebron though? 😂😂😂 Hahaha and Bron didn’t rest for two years too. 😅
So what
This is my 2 cents. For me it’s all about style. Jordan looked like Picasso, painting a drawing in a basketball game. Lebron is and always will be a man child. A freak of nature unstoppable. He will not be seen again in decades. At the end he obtain the same if not better results. But lebron just walks up and puts it in. Mj puts it in and then walks up.
What happened to winning? Does winning not matter anymore? What happened to defense? What happened to loyalty? When did overall stats become end all be all? Since when are blemishes on a resume not blemishes? Losing in record fashion on the biggest stage doesn't matter? Going to join another super star and playing absolutely terrible as the "best player in the world" getting 8 points in one game and then getting 17.8 for the series and losing again doesn't matter? Man you 2 are disappointing now. What the fuck happened to you guys
“NO EMOTION CALL A SPADE A SPADE” - KG
Lol, listening comprehension is a skill😂😂
does he not have 4 championships and 4 finals mvps? does he not have 41 playoff series wins? the most playoff wins ever? what about that is not winning?
@sportstalkonly1442 I guess you didn't read my comment in full.. you can't have lebrons blemishes when MJ didn't have anything close to those poor performances
*@StrictlyStrange*
Nah man its not only about scoring, it s about defense. Thats were the grind is. Pressure?? Fk pressure it only makes me better!!!
38? He’s legit 40 in 4 months kg, wake up. People been calling him 40 for a while
This was an older video clipped down. He was 38 at that time, I think 🙌
He’s 39, bday in December. He’ll be 40. Google is free ya know
Damn u right he did have a niccname before he got in the league that’s wild and KING at that wtf
Lebron is the goat its not even close at this point
I definitely agree
How tho. MJ and Kareem easily are ahead of him
@@choppabrown3741 Kareem is 2nd after LeBron go check the all time NBA record books in all categories MJ is nowhere to be found
Goats 1- LeBron 2- Kareem 3-Jordan
Prime Best 1- LeBron 2- Shaq 3- Jordan
Except he didn’t live up to the expectations of being the greatest of all time, so P reasoning for putting him as the goat doesn’t even make sense.
Yeah he exceeded them. Way better than jordan
@@Jjcbgoat Explain it, using facts only. No narratives. No opinions. You can’t.
@@andrewchester3527 1-9 without pippen
@@andrewchester3527 jordan played against plumbers
@@Jjcbgoat Exactly. “Jordan played against plumbers” = narrative. Not a fact. You can’t even prove your point cause you don’t know enough about basketball history 🫵🏼😂
I like what they said, LeBron was callrd the King when he was in high school know was calling MJ anything before his NBA career started, and LBJ lived up to that and surpassed that expectation
😂😂Jordan was called the GOAT before he stepped foot in the NBA. It's been over 21yrs years, and LeBron is still chasing the ghost from Chicago 😢
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 stop it!!!
jordan wasnt called the goat before he stepped foot in the NBA
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 👎 "chasing the ghost" has nothing to do with Jordan
*apparently you dont know the term "chasing ghost" or its actual meaning*
🔻
*chasing ghost is a "surfing term" = riding a wave*
(it's the encouraging words the adults gave him growing up)
because THEY knew he was special ..
so when Lebron said he's "chasing ghost" Lebron was referring to HIS OWN legacy
that started in highschool when he a PHENOM in football & basketball ..
Lebron went on to be an NBA player, which enabled him to accomplishing his dreams
just like he planned (off the court AND on the court) ... AND HE DID JUST THAT (mission accomplished) duh!!
Stop it pp! Mj is the best I seen!
I guess you blind haha
*@buck4129* it's 2024 jordan is IRRELEVANT
@@burgerking46 👍
Paul getting that check boy I feel u Paul get that money
WOW!!! I don't believe this came out of their mouths. Two great players who hated LeBron during their playing years. Better recognize!
Here's something to think about before the haters start typing....Bron could've retired 5-0 in the Finals,Scoring Champ and 6 MVP's and the haters will still say hes not the greatest lmao😂🍻🍺
For those who still don't understand, I'm just saying don't get too mad about this clip because if Bron career went a other way....haters will still cry LOL #DoubleEdgedSword
If Lebrons career went the other way, he’d definitely have an argument for goat
@@duffman1876 don’t you have to work with what happened though? It’d be way closer if those were his stats. Anyone saying otherwise would be crazy indeed.
😂😂but he didn't 😂😂
Bron could've retired 5-0 in the Finals,Scoring Champ and 6 MVP's..
Good one!
I never thought I would see this day lmao they hated bron
I like Lebron but MJ will forever be the GOAT. At the end of the day Jordan won more, has crazy stats, was dominating on both ends on a nightly basis, more skillful and lastly how he impacted the game and sports worldwide is why he always been the goat
You might be right but Lebron is for sure top 2 all time
At the end of the day the only argument for Jordan is the rings and oldheads will never accept that LeBron is better so no need to have that discussion
@@daymi5817 This is sports, winning matters more than stats. Y’all always use only Lebron’s assist and rebounds stats which aren’t the only stats in the world like Jordan ain’t got ridiculous stats as well in most categories plus the rings to go along
@@Ibbo-e5g Of course he’s number 2
@@choppabrown3741 so then bill Russel is the goat if we go by rings see how that goes the rings can’t be the deciding factor. Also it’s a team effort as far as I know so you can’t just give all the praise to Jordan.
KG and Pierce can’t make up their mind if LeBron is the goat or not. They say he ain’t this and that cuz they don’t like him and then they say he’s the goat.
STOP THIS DAMN GOAT DEBATE CAUSE EVERYONE DONT RESPECT IT BY THE ERA.....BASKETBALL IS SOFT AS HELL NOW....ENOUGH SAID
Hard fouls because of lack of skill is not good basketball..
@@Oldlakerfan24finally someone said it. all they did was wrestle back then and called it good defense
I don't think hard foul is considered a good defence that just your nostalgic feelings are getting in the way
Boo hoo hoo. 😂. Like kg said u have to call a spade a spade. Either u watch this man or u didn't. Put your feeling and mis remembering of the trash 🗑 can 80s and 90s to bed 🛌
*@phillipscott* RIP 80's RIP 90's
2003 - 2024 the ERA relevant NOW
This gotta be an alternate universe
What is the criteria? You can't say rings because Kareem got 6 too. What would MJ have done against the 2017, 2018 Warriors? No one will ever be as good as Lebron for as long. This guy looks the same in year 21 as he did in year 1
Facts
Remember when bron lost to the warriors and in his press conference he said his hand was broken which was a lie?👀
@@JohnDoe-k5r Dude rings matter a lot. Winning matters more than stats in sports. Kareem always had a legitimate case to be in the top two. Cause he won more than Lebron and was also a dominant player
😂😂it's everything. Playing longer doesn't make you better. Jordan has better per game and advanced stats than LeBron accomplished more in less time individually and team wise. Jordan has 6 chips and 6-FMVPs.
@@choppabrown3741Talk to me about Robert Horry...
LeBron is the most physically gifted player to hit the court. He met expectations coming out of high school that he may be the best we've ever seen and his longevity cannot be questioned... but Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player the NBA has known. There is nothing wrong with LeBron being the second best above some of the best to ever do it
Not these clowns again …saying MJ wasn’t able to do what LeBron did …. Put it to you like this LeBron was able to do what MJ did didn’t MJ 3 peak twice.. MJ never been swept in the finals …. MJ never went ring chasing….. to be honest with yall I put curry over lebron …. Curry is 3-1 against lebron in the finals…..
And …..GOAT JAMES now bow down to the King
@@hggfu hahahaha lebron will never be. Goat….. curry got the best of lebron ….
@@JavierHernandez-ct9ez still GOAT JAMES
Curry was 3-1? Or the Warriors? Because Curry never won a FMVP against Bron..
@@howsittastes curry is part of the warriors… warriors is part of curry …. MVP doesn’t mean anything….. like I say curry over lebron any day ……
MJ would kill this soft dude! Theres no defense in todays game. If Bronny James can make the NBA, anyone can play in the NBA
Lebron blocks Jordan from behind doggy style
@thecliffold you're soft AND it shows 😂🤣
Mike 7 days a week stop the cap
You know they really don't like LeBron
If you don't understand sports maybe
I wouldn't even consider mike the 2nd 😂 he probably 3rd at best after bron and kareem
@@Winston13Aedafter who 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
U gone tell a nba player who better 😭😭😭
Bro did come in immediately firing on all cylinders
These dudes tryna get they subs up all cap💯😭
Lebron haters will hear the truth about their god MJ dark secrets!
They won't hear it...they too busy tryna bash Bron rii now for denying that kid an autograph or sum😅🍻🍺
@@duffman1876you got daddy issues
@@TashaOneal-l8h *duffman IS "your" daddy*
and "you" got an issue with THAT 😂🤣
Right Gentleman. Truth and Big Tickets.
The GOAT debate was put to rest in its grave finally in Paris.
It was long overdue.
👑LEBRON🐐est.2016 (they late)
Man he will never be as great as mj im very disappointing to see two guys i respect disrespect mj like this
Lol, sounds like you gonna cry 😂😂😂 freaking hilarious 😂😂😂😂
@@derricktipton5320 I'm crying so hard right now man. Thank you for pointing that out let me get my self together 😂 yall dudes on the internet funny
@@Suge8263hilarious 😂 you lost the goat debate.
@@ヤギ7 hilarious 😂 lebron lost the goat debate.
@@ヤギ7he wasn't even the goat at the NBA 75th anniversary ceremony if he wouldn't have joined Dwade he wouldn't have 4 rings and if they wouldn't have came up with the play in tournament he wouldn't even have that bubble ring the game is watered down today and extremely boring
Wat If warriors drafted KD and the okc thunder drafted Steph ; do you think warriors win more less or the same championships????
MJ
Messi
Tom Brady
Jerry Rice
Serena Williams
Roger Federer
Tiger Woods
All those goats have something in common, they’re all winners. Lebron James is the only so called goat to have a losing championship record. And dude is so insecure. That’s your goat? Lmao. Kids smh
👑LEBRON 🐐 est. 2016
(dont need your permission)
Legit 💯I was saying Jordan was up until 2016@@eyewatch2see77
He's in the convo but I would still pick MJ and Kobe over him in that order
MJ is clearly the greatest, but even if you take him out, there are still other players ahead of LeBron, so his name being brought up is a joke.
😂😂😂
Your comment is more of a joke.
Good point
Your right. After all is said and done, he can't be above Magic with his Leadership and track record represented by his titles.
Exact same thing with Kareem.
But if you look closely and ignore all the noise, it is quite clear that he is not above Kobe. with his Defensive All teams, high scoring output(single game, not longevity a.k.a Karl Malone like) and winning track record. Not to mention going to the finals three times in a row in two different eras with and without shaq. The only real argument Lebron has over Kobe is Mvps, which upon further scrutiny are decided upon by biased writers. Guys that sit in boardrooms like ernie Johnson (my man but still) and some of the most annoying talking heads. If anyone looks back on history objectively it is clear to see that Kobe was robbed of mvp by Nash and Nowitzki and possibly once against Duncan. He was def the best player in the league but fell out of favor due to his court case and his general cocky disposition which he later rebranded. If being objective Kobe is def above Lebron, but if caught up in current politics and unable to tell this might sound absurd to you. Nevertheless,
He can't be better than Shaq! Sure they rigged things so now it seems like they have the same amount of titles. But Shaq has real titles and was more dominant. On the other hand Bron has 3 and a bubble. We can't just pretend that many people in the human race were not fearful of their lives and dying family members. Some things are more important than basketball. Especially in times of tragic crisis. You wanna count that bubble ring? Cool. But it's not the same. And if you could draft a young Lebron or a young Shaq who are you taking? I thought so.
He can't be better than Duncan because not only does Duncan have more success, but Duncan beat Shaq and Kobe, and Bron with an entire super team. If we are actually being fair Duncan never had the calibur of players Lebron has had as teammates and he was still far more successful 😂😂
Obviously the most successful player is Jordan like him or not, because he was 6 for 6 on the big stage without even a game 7. He also won defensive player of the year while leading the league in scoring in that same year.
Lebron is def a top ten player for sure. We have never seen anyone like him. But we must respect the game, and what every gave to it . let's not overshadow legends.
Lebron and Steph are on a similar plane but Lebron is greater. He proved that when they went head to head on the big stage. Plus both men's body language revealed who the bully and the bullied were. Bird also did not win enough to be as great as Bron. Malone never won although his longevity stats are great like Kareem and Lebron.
That being said. Lebron is likely the sixth greatest player the game has ever seen. And that ain't nothing to sneeze at🎉🎉🎉
*@chrisbrooks6756* 👎
Lebron's name being brought up IS WHY you're HERE ... duh!!!
Have your opinion but LBJ is a thoroughbred. He was meant to be an athlete. And more importantly he has fully tapped into the God-given spirit and virtues that breed success in ANY endeavor. Patience self control and discipline.
👍THE CHOSEN ONE 👍
Lebron is all around with 4 titles with 3 teams
I grew up a fan of this Celtics team and Lebron ruined my childhood. That’s all I have to say about that.
LBJ IS THE BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER EVER
👍
Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett have told the truthful answer who's the goat, MJ or LJ.
Their choice between MJ and LJ demonstrate impartiality and rationality.
Actually, only hater full of jealousy and envy cannot give LJ the benefit of the doubt.
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We have never seen mj lead both finals teams in points, assist, steals, blocks, and rebounds and Bron did that beating the most winning team ever greatest shooters ever. Bron has the most 1st teams, most all teams, scores the most not leading the nba in shot attempts 9 times like MJ 🤣🤣 and way better passer than mj not even up for debate. Bron has highest basketball iq while mj had the greatest coach theres a big difference. We seen Bron get to the finals with rosters mj wouldn’t get to the finals. Meanwhile Lebron and pippen would have dominated
If that’s the case Jokic > Lebron
@@nydibs how he didn’t do that in the finals and beat 73 win team. Jokic beat Jimmy butler in the finals. Bron lead his team in the finals 7 times in points, assist and rebounds. We can wait for jokic he’s only been to 1 nba finals. Jokic just lost to a 22 year old. When did that happen to prime Lebron I’ll wait.
@@moneymoney3235 - Jokic swept Lebron to get to the finals, and led the entire playoffs in points, rebounds and assists
Jokic is 12-1vs Lebron and the Lakers over the last 3 seasons. Therefore, using your logic, Jokic must be the goat
@@moneymoney3235 I mean yeah if you ignore all Jordan’s accomplishments sure. Just quick ones, He had 10 scoring titles, the most by far. 9 defensive first teams to lebron’s 5. He was season steal leader three times and defensive player of the year, as a guard at that. Lebron doesn’t have those…when he was moved to point guard he averaged a triple double so it’s not like he couldn’t pass that just wasn’t his job and the bulls didn’t have someone like wade until Scottie developed. And why do you conclude he wouldn’t bring those same teams to the finals? Michael Jordan definitely has the skills to drag those teams through that awful eastern conference from like 2011-2018. And yeah more championships as the main player.
@@moneymoney3235 - Lebron lost to 22 y/o Kawhi Leonard (MVP), Lebron lost to 23 y/o Dwight Howard...
Look at these hypocrites… So since when did longevity equal the GOAT?
Sick of these clowns. So why Kareem not the goat KD and Paul?
Lebron isn’t the goat it’s MJ and u know it.
If number of rings define GOAT then MJ does not have the most rings Bro. Bron is incomparable.
*@jlshine17* it's 2024 Jordan is IRRELEVANT and you know it
*@jlshine17 * 👑LEBRON🐐est. 2016
WAYYY BEFORE longevity ..
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Haha HOW is MJ irrelevant? He is the pinnacle of NBA greatness.. Aka THE GOAT
@@jlshine17 not any more
*RIP 90's*
No one referred to as the goat has a losing record in championship games please stop you all madness
He lost to a hall fame teams besides Dallas 😂😂😂
Jerry West…
@@theungreatkahli dont know any credible person put jw as the goat great player yes not the goat
I feel it’s high time now Paul Pierce swallowed his pride and mend fences with LeBron.
nahh!! Paul Pierce can stay on his own side of the fence
(lebron dont deal with the enemy)
Lebron has a REAL circle of benevolence from 2000-20024
That Lebron James machine is buying up all these burntout sports actors..Easy to tell who the sell outs are...
Imagine hating someone so much that even actual professionals' opinions mean "they have to be fake because I don't agree".
Lebron James has a machine 🤔
Don't forget! Load management. I don't think he played all 82 games a season in his entire NBA career.
Why hasn't Lebron commented on the PED accusation KG😂 You can accomplish alot on steroids but 10x Scoring Titles, 6 Rings, DPOY and etc..
😂😂😂😂
Sound dumb 😂
@BeanNip why was KD, Steph and Antman drug tested after winning the Gold BUT Lebron 🤡
@@rawbellco49 why was EVERYBODY else on the team drug tested "entering" the Olympics
except for KD, Steph and Antman (is the real question)
@eyewatch2see77 So, who is the ONLY PERSON who wasn't drug tested? Is the question? Doesn't matter what sequence the test was conducted. Bad argument
Oh man the haters gonna lose their mind for this one. I got my popcorn ready. Hey haters play nice now.
Longevity is not a skill.
The best ability is availability
Bron has the greatest longevity by a fuckin mile and has a top 2 or 3 peak of all time 🤫
Not by itself, but you gonna act like he was a Kevin Willis or Celtics era Shaq player?
LeBron James best small fawards Pass all time Not even close 🏀🏀🏀🏀
LEBRON THE GOAT
Goats don't fake a broken hand injury after losing an NBA finals loss
😂😂saved by Curry
that bit at the end lol
LeBron James is the greatest player the NBA has ever seen.
Thats funny
Facts are he still Ballin he's the greatest player ever
whether she won gold, silver or nothing at all is irrelevant. She's a legend and an inspiration for people all over the world but especially india 🫡