cool idea. ya beefing up the holder made a difference for sure. the 3d printing world isn't something i think of as an option (old school... ) but it is definitely changing the way we can make things! Well done!
Yeah I’m happy that I put the extra support on the front portion, like you sed made a difference for sure. I think 3D printing fixtures and storage in the work shop is very useful I wouldn’t be without mine. 👍
Seems like something worth trying. My quick change tool holders cost $30ea. But to print them for $1-2 seems like a option worth trying. I only machine soft metals and plastics anyway so they should hold up well if I base by design off your 4 sided holder
Interesting idea. They all performed better than I expected them to. I'd be curious to see what the life expectancy of a tool like this would be. Looking forward to the designing video.
I’ll be honest Gerald if you was to only use these on light cuts in soft material I can’t see why they can’t last a while. Let’s me honest they are never going to outlive steel ones but at like £2 a print even if you printed one every 6 months it’s not to bad.
Cool idea. I do a lot of lite turning. Aluminium, plastic. But I would be interested in seeing them up against 4" steel. Don't destroy them though. I think they'll find a place on the tool rack.
If you would have used an insert for aluminum rather than the steel insert that you used, the tool pressure would be reduced and the finish could have been much better. At any rate this is a great idea.
Basically it's a good idea. I think I would have had a square hole (a bit of meat down that front side) and a bit more meat on the bottom as it is plastic and not steel.
Yeah bulking it up would definitely help out with the rigidity problem. But for an idea that I wanted to see if it was possible I was genuinely shocked how well these performed once the initial design was changed.
Don't take this the wrong way Joe, but you're actually cheating a bit by taking progressively higher DOC on the same piece, because you are shrinking the diameter. If you were taking progressively higher DOC from the outside diameter only (and thus removing considerably more material/time) then you would have a good comparison to a steel holder. However you did do a good comparison between the 3 printed holders and they faired far better than I expected they would. I was waiting to see if you had any heat transfer to the printed holders and maybe some meltdown :) Cheers from Down Under
Cheers Bob yeah completely get what your saying, all cuts on the OD would have been a better true reflection. None the less though taking 5mm of I was so impressed with that. Let’s see how they handle a lesser cut on steel ay 😁
What infill % did you use for the tool holders? Also, there's a number of destructive tests on YT of different materials and PLA out performs almost all of them.
Hi Larry so all tool holders were printed with a 50% triangular infill and a 4 wall loop. From doing some research on my choice of material the tensile strength in the X-Y plane is as follows. Bambu PLA 32MPa Bambu PET-CF 76MPa PA-CF 88MPa Hope this helps. 👍
The coated inserts are not a good choice for Aluminium, they tend ot create build up. :-) Is that really cheaper? For one spool of the expensive filaments you could have bought some steel. I guess you will like the video from the "competition" ruclips.net/video/KKJd0gj84zE/видео.html
For sure Matt I wouldn’t recommend people use these instead over steel ones but for a test to see if it was possible I was shocked at the final results.
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Awesome exploration of what 3D printing can do. Please include printing parameters (e.g. infill %, and pattern, etc.) in your follow-up video!
Didn't expect that! Very impressive indeed! 👍
Haha you and me both.
Great video Joe. 3D printing is a great technology for the machine shop, hope to see more in the future.
Thanks Ian, glad you enjoyed and chuffed you want to see more all the best.
Very interesting idea , and test thanks 👍looking forward to the next
Glad you enjoyed.
cool idea. ya beefing up the holder made a difference for sure.
the 3d printing world isn't something i think of as an option (old school... ) but it is definitely changing the way we can make things! Well done!
Yeah I’m happy that I put the extra support on the front portion, like you sed made a difference for sure. I think 3D printing fixtures and storage in the work shop is very useful I wouldn’t be without mine. 👍
Seems like something worth trying. My quick change tool holders cost $30ea. But to print them for $1-2 seems like a option worth trying. I only machine soft metals and plastics anyway so they should hold up well if I base by design off your 4 sided holder
Yeah they seem to handle Aluminium and brass fine.
1:53 that warping alone where you’ve over tightened the screws would have made me question weather it would be safe to use or not.
Yeah I know what you mean that’s why I took some light cuts and then redesigned the part. 👍
Interesting idea. They all performed better than I expected them to. I'd be curious to see what the life expectancy of a tool like this would be. Looking forward to the designing video.
I’ll be honest Gerald if you was to only use these on light cuts in soft material I can’t see why they can’t last a while. Let’s me honest they are never going to outlive steel ones but at like £2 a print even if you printed one every 6 months it’s not to bad.
Hi Joe, excellent video, I really enjoyed it! Looking forward to the CAD video explaining the design process! Take care mate, regards Tony.
Glad you enjoyed it Tony, hopefully you’ll get some good info out of the CAD video and maybe pick up a few tips or tricks
Wow PLA was amazing
Cool idea. I do a lot of lite turning. Aluminium, plastic.
But I would be interested in seeing them up against 4" steel. Don't destroy them though. I think they'll find a place on the tool rack.
Yeah I too am interested to see how it performs against steel. Maybe I’ll have to give it a go. 🤔
If you would have used an insert for aluminum rather than the steel insert that you used, the tool pressure would be reduced and the finish could have been much better. At any rate this is a great idea.
Yeah i wish I did now, I have a tool with a CCGT insert in ready to go so the Aluminium insert like you sed would have reduced the tool pressure.
It's amazing!
Basically it's a good idea. I think I would have had a square hole (a bit of meat down that front side) and a bit more meat on the bottom as it is plastic and not steel.
Yeah bulking it up would definitely help out with the rigidity problem. But for an idea that I wanted to see if it was possible I was genuinely shocked how well these performed once the initial design was changed.
Don't take this the wrong way Joe, but you're actually cheating a bit by taking progressively higher DOC on the same piece, because you are shrinking the diameter.
If you were taking progressively higher DOC from the outside diameter only (and thus removing considerably more material/time) then you would have a good comparison to a steel holder.
However you did do a good comparison between the 3 printed holders and they faired far better than I expected they would.
I was waiting to see if you had any heat transfer to the printed holders and maybe some meltdown :)
Cheers from Down Under
Cheers Bob yeah completely get what your saying, all cuts on the OD would have been a better true reflection. None the less though taking 5mm of I was so impressed with that. Let’s see how they handle a lesser cut on steel ay 😁
@@MachiningwithJoe 👍
What infill % did you use for the tool holders? Also, there's a number of destructive tests on YT of different materials and PLA out performs almost all of them.
Hi Larry so all tool holders were printed with a 50% triangular infill and a 4 wall loop. From doing some research on my choice of material the tensile strength in the X-Y plane is as follows.
Bambu PLA 32MPa
Bambu PET-CF 76MPa
PA-CF 88MPa
Hope this helps. 👍
@@MachiningwithJoe Thanks Joe. I'd go 100% and see how it works!
Nice. But now I want to see some cuts in steel.
Keep your eyes peeled I’ll test soon and show on YT shorts.
It's gonna be fine until you need to hold tight tolerances on your parts ^^
Got to admit thou it would be interesting tight a tolerance they could hold 🤔
The coated inserts are not a good choice for Aluminium, they tend ot create build up. :-) Is that really cheaper? For one spool of the expensive filaments you could have bought some steel. I guess you will like the video from the "competition" ruclips.net/video/KKJd0gj84zE/видео.html
Yeh don't try this at home people. Not worth the safety risk.
For sure Matt I wouldn’t recommend people use these instead over steel ones but for a test to see if it was possible I was shocked at the final results.