Saying that none of those men are criminals simply because they don't have a criminal record has to be the definition of gaslighting. What they did is a crime, therefore they are all criminals.
Well… giving the statement the benefit of the doubt: it’s descriptive to the fact that they’ve presently never been convicted of a crime and are still innocent until proven guilty. To name them criminals, despite what one might feel personally, as a journalist, would be incorrect reporting and manipulating an opinion. It’s a tight rope to walk to provide an unbiased report. The whole of the report clearly indicates that the crime itself is horrendous. They then allow other “experts” explain, quite clearly, the various aspects surrounding this crime.
I agree. I hope that once the case has completed and the perpetrators found to be guilty, their faces and names are all plastered all over the Internet - they don’t deserve anonymity. However I do feel for their family members and hope the local communities will treat the family members with compassion.
A person who has been accused, but not proved guilty has their identity concealed, until the verdict is handed down. In cases of unfounded accusation, the stigma of the accusation is enough to destroy the accused's life. That is the down side of revealing it, and is considered more weighty than the honesty of revealing who is being accused. I think that's a good decision.
@@yplwfzyui5 And now we are being erased, as even the words, woman, female, girl, mother are being changed to person or people, while men who put on a dress are being called women.
50 men were easily identified on the videos and arrested by the French police. those are the men in court now. But approximately 80+ men are on video abusing Gisele. So there are approximately 30+ more men for which the police are still searching and need to be brought to justice.
@@Cauldron6- When I read a list of some of their jobs, the most terrifying one to me, is the ambulance driver. That's the one fear I have about hospitals - that men like that are all too real.
@@c.g.bspendersashtray3037Ambulance driver😳? How is he going to say that he doesn't know that she was drugged, she was just pretend? It is disgusting.
I can't believe he was able to find so many willing participants. I can't believe they found the experience good. I mean, having sex with an unconscious woman, what is it that they were enjoying? Only the abuse and the idea of it.
I am shocked to hear the reasons that men wanted to humiliate and hurt women as well along with total lack of empathy. This case is so shocking and heartbreaking and yet Gisèle has restored my faith in humanity. She knowingly fighting for the rights of victims globally at such a huge expense to herself when it is not done usually.
Unfortunately I’m not shocked at all that these cretins crawl out from under rocks to make their opinions heard. Many men have a deep hatred for women, even ones who aren’t supposed to. They feel a sense of entitlement over them. This is why they r*pe, k!ll and control due to misogynistic views of women. They’re a disease on the planet and as women are the majority, we should all rise up against them. The problem is men need women more than women need men, otherwise they would have wiped us out altogether. Their main aim is to take what they can from women and give little to nothing back, meanwhile most women give, care and nurture. Men take and destroy.
So many men harbor hostile feelings towards women. An even larger number of men are unable to see women as full people, they see us as natural support systems, servants, breeders and seks objects there for men's needs. Beware of dogs.
After hearing about the cases of Telegram groups around the world where men shared videos of their own mothers, sisters, wives and daughters in their own homes I'm not shocked anymore. These groups numbered hundreds of thousands of men. The male mind is capable of all kinds of horrors.
Honestly, the scariest part of this whole case is that he wouldn't have been caught if those women didn't notify the security at the grocery store about him taking pictures/recording under other women skirts 😭😢
@@anastasia10017 I'm really bad at English regional accents, let alone French. I thought I recognized provençal with the soft "g" after "pain", "vin" etc. Thanks for the correction.
I’m a mom of an underage daughter who was abused (raped) several times. The law in Mexico does not constitute those acts as rape but as “estupro,”which means rape of a lessen category 🙄 Even though she was groomed by a 45 year old man the law says it is estupro and the penalties hardly include jail time. To make a long story short I was able to pursue the case and go to trial until the end and he did a year and a half jail time. He’s now free with restrictions. That is short of a miracle here in Mexico. As a result of being abandoned by the law and society I created a Non Profit organization to help all victims of abuse, specially those who lack the monetary means for their legal defense. My daughter is ok now and listening to all of you and Mrs. Pericot has given me the strength and courage I need to pursue our mission which is to turn abuse victims into survivors. May god be with all abuse victims. 🙏🏻
In Ireland that's 'statutory rape' meaning there's no defense a man or woman can give to mitigate what they did, it's rape end of, no discussion. Now they do try to bring in defenses but it's not entertained by the courts, rape a minor, it's rape end of, no legal arguments you're found guilty and face a full 10 years at the least, they will take into account, a few things, she said she was older, she looked older, she was in a place where only over 21's are allowed but there still guilty of rape, they might get a month or two off sentence, stops a lot of grooming when it's statutory rape. The minor CANNOT CONSENT, they are too young to consent. 17 is the legal age of consent, any age under that is statutory rape.
@@Pikrodafnithis is not human nature ..it is reptilian behavior. Human being has the densest frontal cortex but if it is not functioning then they are not human. If the are not human and they cause more harm to the whole society then they are not needed
@@kiowah231please don‘t hate on all men. I know enough men who can love very deeply and would never do something like this. It would not help at all to simply vilify all men. I assume this specific husband was a sociopath/psychopath (I‘m not a psychologist, so I don‘t know the exact difference). And also women can be sociopaths / psychopaths and do unbelievable things to their own children. Such people live in all countries, this is not a French-only problem. But the French laws and what the lawyers of these men said in public without any shame is really an issue.
@@HannaBenana and his daughters in law. His nieces said that he asked them to get naked a young children to be able to get a reward (or eat i dont remember)
@denkenhilft1607 you should direct that energy at changing how other men deal with terrible men than at pleasing with traumatized women. you need to leave us alone and go to the real problem.
The gall/stupidity required to say that sentence about a rapist client, in this context no less.. then to say he's not delinquent??? What IS delinquent then? They're trying to frame the victim as an alcoholic and a liar, despite terrabytes of video evidence, but his client who agreed to violate an unconscious woman, behind his wife/kid's back, ISN'T a delinquent??
A man in Singapore did this same vile thing to his wife! There are chat groups, online communities of men who do this to their wives/daughters/sisters!! They must be stopped!
it happens everywhere. the film Women Talking was about a case in ultra-conservative mennanite community - 8 men charge with drugging and raping over 150 women and girls (3 - 65 years) over 5 years. women in comas are sexually assualting very often. many morgues won't employ men, or let them work alone, because they will abuse the corpses. there are writings in ancient egypt specifiying that attractive young women should not be embalmed immediately, in order that the body can decay a little and becoming less enticing to the embalmer. this isn't a modern thing, it has nothing to do with porn.
The defense lawyer claiming they don’t believe the victim was sedated is straight up gaslighting. Each man who deliberately went to the victims home and raped the unconscious victim should be convicted and imprisoned. Their prior lack of criminal record just means that they weren’t caught previously. And men wonder why women don’t trust them when they see how “ordinary” men who will abuse a woman if they think they’ll get away with it. The mayor needs to resign immediately!
The defense lawyers claiming they don't think she was unconscious is straight up against the whole set-up that these --men-- r****sts were interested in. You cannot have one without the other. It's beyond disgusting and appalling. Mdme. Pelicot, for her courage and poise, is a SAINT.
It hurts me that victims are humiliated in court, accused of complicity when they are the ones pushing for justice. Violence against women needs to be exposed, and stopped.
She had literal terrabytes of video evidence of herself being assaulted.. and they still try to frame her as a liar and even being sick enough to say she was into it! To me, that speaks volumes about the uphill struggle that victims with no video evidence of the crimes committed against them face.. If someone with video after video after video of the abuse, can't get justice without being treated this way.. what chance do other victims have??
15 of them are, because they are repeat offenders. Conjugal violence (and in France you need to have at least a broken nose for the man to get a custodian jail sentence), viewing child porn, and in one case, incest (on his daughter, who was a child).
The comments of the Mayor of Mazan were shocking to me: ‘well no children were raped, she didn’t die, no one was murdered, It’ll be hard on the family, but they’ll get over it.’ He should resign.
@@ankiking And unfortu ately there are many women who would sooner side with men, the dominant half of society, because women are socialized to compete with and mistrust each other.
I always find ridicolous when you have to call judges "your honour" when they have no basic morals whatsoever. And they do one of the most important jobs in our society. It's disgusting.
It's a club of men bonding over an experience of power and violence. Turn it around: what if you are a straight man living with a roommate or a family member, like a brother, and that brother has been systematically drugging you, letting men into your room to sodomize you over a 10 year period? I'm sorry to be that graphic, but I think the vast majority of men, even men who would never rape a woman, are able to understand the extreme violence if its a man who is the victim, but somehow cannot equate that it is exactly the same horror for a woman. This is what the speaker in the video means by the objectification and dehumanization of women.
@@JuliaTsangI do not sleep around men any more. I live alone and I don't fall asleep around men. I've had trauma from men before but not sexually thankfully.
90% of men have these non-consensual sexual fantasies. I'm part of the alternative sexual lifestyle community and I have to explain to men in the community how to not harm people when indulging their fantasies. Problem is men go about making these fantasies reality by harming people.. Men and women and children.. It happens to gay men also.
One cannot understand that so many men is easily lead to take part in this atrocity! Gisele Pelicot, we stand with you! We pray for you and that you may heal in time!❤❤❤
Something that tops that are women who support and pursue relationships with men that have a history/criminal record of rape/molestation and many exposed their children to those predators because they want a man under their arm 24/7.
Chemical coma/unconsciousness for purpose of abuse and amnesia of victim encircled by knowing adults. This is common approach to child and adults victims across the modern world. Leaving people 'unconscious' in mind, with strange thought and physical sickness is the result. This is usually impossible to detect, is further 'hidden' by 'lost' or ignored corroborating evidence and is why we have people amongst us who suffer terribly, with some developing and still connecting knowingly with others who have violent and cruel 'fetishes', addictions etc.
My gratitude to this woman is never ending, this happened to me but I waa never believed. Her report helped validated my experience. Merci bien madame ❤❤❤❤
I cried through most of this interview. Gisele’s story is my story. The exact same thing happened to me. I never thought I would hear about this happening to someone else because even I didn’t believe it was possible but my husband got men to have sex with me while I was unconscious. I don’t know how long this was going on but one day I found video and photographic evidence that this happened to me. I didn’t report it because I was too shocked and embarrassed and also I didn’t think anyone would believe me. I have lived with the horrors and nightmares of this for years. I have lived with depression,anxiety and panic attacks ever since. I am so proud of Gisele for having the courage to do what she is doing. She is a hero for women who have been victims of sexual violence. I wish I could reach out and hug her and thank her so very much for standing up not just for herself but for all of us who have endured this kind of abuse. Merci Gisele! Je suis Gisele aussi .
You’re a survivor and do NOT be hard on yourself for keeping it to yourself! This patriarchal world is NOT kind en masse to women who go through this. Sending you lot’s of love and wishes for you to enjoy your life and focus on loving the amazing woman you ARE!!!! ❤❤❤ X
I sit here in solidarity with you. It is so important to speak out, because someone in a similar situation can realise it was not their fault, or they shouldn't be ashamed of what happened. From my perspective, I know that the beginning of the MeToo movement helped me in that regard. It is so heartbreaking to hear that most rapists are people closest to you - true in my case as well.
The Mayor's comment that 'nobody died' after 70+ men raped Gisēle in her own home by the invitation of her 'husband', is not only untrue it is also part of the problem, that yet again - a man - views the most serious of crimes committed against women (after murder) as 'non-specific, she'll get over it' attitude. Gisèle - the woman that was - died after being raped by those men. She will never again be the woman that she was, after they violated her physically, mentally, and spiritually. That woman, was. She's gone. This Gisèle you see before you, is a version of her former self, an adaption fighting to survive after THEY RAPED HER. Even the man who walked away, even though he did not take part, he allegedly subjected his own wife to rape , with Gisèle's husband taking part. So, he's still 'connected' to the crime. One rapist, is one too many and why the MeToo movement thrives across the world, as women are subjected to being thought of as 'objects' not as equal human beings deserving of respect. May Gisēle eventually receive justice and find solace & peace along the path to healing ahead. Bless... 🙏🏼
This is EXACTLY how I describe what happened to me as a child who was abused. I say it was murder because there is no resurrection of the person I was or would have been before it happened. You don’t « just get over it ». Victims or Survivors carry the consequences and damage forever. It’s a life sentence and meanwhile the abusers just go on with their life without punishment. The mayor is a fiend as is any person who defends or minimizes this horror.
My heart is breaking for Gisele Pelicot. I sometimes try to make sense of the world through numbers, but in this case, it’s unsettling. Typically, men comprise about 48-50% of the population. In Manzan there are approximately 6,000 residents. Considering a 50 km radius, the number of men aged 26-74 in Manzan and the surrounding area could range from 1,200 to 3,000. Among these, 90 men are accused to have raped Gisele. That’s about 3% of the men, and it’s utterly crushing. It’s not a village of rapists, it’s probably just an accurate representation of how many man would involve themselves in such disgusting acts anywhere else.
I think what makes it worse is that Gisèle ex husband stated 7/10 men he asked were happy to partake in her abuse which means that there were men who knew what was happening to her and chose to ignore...
This case is as much about sex trafficking as it is about rape, the husband should also be charged with drugging his wife, endangering his wife, human trafficking and domestic abuse! Men have been coercing woman and girls for centuries into making pornography and pornography leads to many perversions, dehumanizing women and encourages men to think that women like this, and that if they don’t, they are not desirable women! This case is going to be very important and Giselle is so brave, I think it is ironic that she will awaken many to the horrible things men will do to the unconscious and non-consenting!
The widespread acceptance of this in our society that makes 80 men think this is ok to do to someone. Sexual violence shouldn’t be just a women’s issue men need to start actually calling each other out.
Well said, and not just call them out, report them, there has to be men in that village who knew what was going on, and turned a blind eye instead of making a report to authorities.
All the comments here should show it’s not wide spread acceptance. People are outraged however sick people will always find a way for their sickness. Normal people just need to be better at defending ourselves and voicing our outrage and fighting back so these sick people will learn to get healthy instead of giving in to their sickness and depravity
90% of men have these psychologically violent and physically violent fantasies/impulses. The patriarchy tells them that they must repress sexual emotion and sexual expression while being sexually aggressive and sexually control and dominate as many female representatives as possible.
Who are "the men"? - Do you mean ANY man should feel personally guilty because he is a "male"? - Solidarity between ALL males (or all "females"!) is demented. Feminism makes sense against pushing people into such roles. When I think about such solidarity I imagine something like that group of rapists. I don't want to feel solidarity with "the men" and say something in their name. - Of course I regret that I personally wasn't in a position to help and that others didn't help either! But my moral outrage and solidarity with the victim I express it in my own name exclusively, unrelated to my nationality or gender! --- On the other hand, "the men" of that village or what the hell it is should say something - and the women too - because it is hard to believe nobody knew anything. ---
@genevievedolan1288 Women have been asked in interviews if they rather meet a bear or a man in the woods. Most said they are team bear🐻. This case is another example why. You can find lots of discussions on it online.
I have literally cried for this woman. It is the worst case I have heard in many years. This is the ultimate betrayal and I hope she has family and friends that can help her through this difficult time. She is so Incredibly powerful for coming forward and speaking out. I wish the best and much needed healing for this beautiful woman.
my friend, the ones who die every day suicidal or in dangerous jobs are not women, because maternity protects them. creating a privileged class is not equity. We must take care of men to save women.
About 15 years ago there was a case where a man was doing something similar with his 12yo step daughter in my town. He also video taped the men who raped her, and one of them was a coworker I was friendly with. We used to chat about our small children. I was absolutely shocked. He seemed like a very normal and nice family man.
@@beaulieuc8910 the case in a town called Outreau in the north of France is one with children and men in the town taking part and being videoed. 90% of men have these sexually fantasies but repress them instead of learning to control them.
In other programs I've watched about this case, they said the husband was also secretly filming his daughter and daughter in law when they were changing their clothes or in the bathroom. If true, it makes we wondering what else he has done.
yes the daughter wrote a book about this. I listened to it on Audible (I can't get the Kindle version because I live overseas). It is very well written and shocking for the whole family. The book is called Et J'ai cesse de t'appeler papa and she uses the name Caroline Darian
He's also being investigated for at least one rape that happened in the past, there are also suspicions that he might be a murderer. He also helped at least one man to drug and rape that man's wife, but she didn't press charges. He was caught because he was filming women in the mall, so yes, there's a lot more that's just being unraveled.
What about the drs that she was seeing with STD's and complaining that she felt unwell with a foggy brain. Why didnt they ever suspect something was wrong. Where did they think she was getting a STD from.
It's simple. Rape was never suspected by the doctors because she allways woke up next to her husband every morning. They never did rape kits on her because she was with her husband. Her husband has allways been unfaithfull and she knew about it. So she asumed he got it from a sex worker or on of his mistresses.
@@elizabethpieters7798no, the drs dropped the ball. Here in the US, drs are mandated reporters. I've had a social worker come speak to me because I had broken my hand when I fell leaving work on ice. They still had to report an injury that aligned with suspected abuse. The drs failed her and should be sued so the rest of them can learn the lesson.
There’s still a certain amount of Drs that ascribe blame to the woman. I had a very pretty female friend (co-worker) whose husband kept reinfecting her with the diseases of other women he slept with. Her Dr just kept treating her with antibiotics and said snide things like, “behave yourself” or “control yourself” instead of asking her if they needed marital counseling. She found it demeaning and humiliating but never told the Dr the truth. It infuriated me. Maybe her Dr knew, but he kept quiet about it.
Just in case anybody cared.....this is exactly what my husband tried to do. It turns out his "secret fetish" was watching non consentual sex. After a few uncomfortable conflicts....I RAN. I didn't talk, I RAN. You don't say "I love you, but I need to watch other men abuse you. Please understand." NO!!!!! That's not a "little kinky". That is wAY OVER THE TOP. Horrifying that one of these men actually pulled it off. THank GODS I don't drink! That is the one thing that could have saved me.
@@Kathleen-vl5wsif multiple witness in a defamation case say that the alleged defamation is true... There it is not defamation beyond a reasonable doubt. That's why Cassie won her Civil suit against P. Diddy.... Lots of evidence and witnesses. Men have always had these impulses... It's just with tracking on device we are finding out how deep it runs.
Wow wow wow, the souls of these men are rotten. Terrifying how easy it was for the husband to find like-minded men. An important reminder that they exist among us and all around us.
90% of men have these types of sexual fantasies. They just repress it but if you give them the opportunity they will act on it. Not to kink shame but we still need to make sure or sexual expression is legal and non-harmful.
i actually think his words highlight that there are people in authority, and others who still think and act as though women and girls are second rate citizens.
"He doesn't have the personality to say no" ,what a pathetic excuse. "Oh your honour I couldn't say no to robbing the bank" what kind of assholes are these lawyers?
@@daria841 she is not showing any empathy at all for her client. Making it clear she is doing the required job of a defense lawyer. A basic principle that everyone is entitled to a defense
Patriarchal culture harms everyone. Rape culture goes hand in hand with the patriarchy due to the placement of one gender over another and the power imbalances that come with this inequality. This trial is horrifying and yet not surprising given the billions of women and children throughout time who have had their autonomy taken away and their psyches and bodies used as if they were not alive. Rape and reproductive rights are also integrally linked and were one is seen as not serious the other is also not seen as important. This report is far overdue and so extremely important.
It not just one gender against another. It defines being a man as being dominant, aggressive, obsession with ego, power and control and hypersexual. This plays out in gay rape also. They also drug gay men too.
The patriarchy tells men to have sex as much as possible, shames them for sex and tells them to repress their sexual expression. Basically creates dysfunctional and criminal behaviours in men... They do the same thing in the gay community and the men are treated worse for reporting gay rape. It's more rare among women.
One of the craziest thing about this story is that one man puts an ad online inviting random men to come SA his wife ---- and almost 100 men show up for it.
Is not crazy, it's sadder than that.. this is the cruel reality we're living in 😑😑😡 where: - politics don't care about the women to put in place laws & protection for the most vulnerable individuals ( women & children) - society is driven by toxic masculinity which you can see it everywhere (media, schools, social networks etc) & the 🍇 is downplayed.
@@anastasia10017 I wouldn't call them "crazy". Because people who are sick it means they don't control or they don't know what they're doing. Therefore they could not be held responsible. Meanwhile these ppl - they knew oh too well what they were doing & they felt empowered to do it.. and were thinking they will never get caught. But Karma shown them otherwise. It's time for toxic men assume responsibility of their actions and choices.
@@Seagull_J.Livingston I didnt say the people were crazy. If you read what I actually wrote and said was that the story -- i.e. the situation - was crazy.
Thank you to every single one of the women appearing here, for their intellect, clarity of mind and conviction in so articulately calling out and standing up to these issues.
40 years ago when i was a student nurse in Brisbane Australia, there was a situation where a young woman who had been in a coma for many years came into hospital. During her stay we discovered that someone had been having sex with her. Turned out to be her husband and his friends. It was all kept very quiet and she was eventually sent to a nursing home where that was not going to happen (at least by her husband). Nothing appeared in the news or media back then, it was all hushed up. All I know is her name was Patricia. How horrific for this and the French woman to be used in such a way.
@@grioulaloula8594- Men wouldn't find it hard to believe. They know, even the ones who one might call "good," are aware of what men are capable of doing and also do. Women and girls are kept from the truth by historical division where women were not allowed to have voices and challenge authority: men. Women are kept in the dark whilst men are allowed to run free and commit atrocities, as if women aren't their targets.
Disabled women and girls are assaulted at a greater rate than other women same with domestic violence. So I'm not at all surprised, not even about it being hushed up. Women in comas have become pregnant and its only at that point the abuse has been discovered. Some men really really hate women.
You should check your facts before going on air. A lot of what you said in the beginning is not quite right. Nothing to do with photos of a cold case. The husband was caught by a security guard in a shopping center, filming under women skirts. He stopped him and ask the women to do a police report, which some did. One policeman decided to take it further by doing a search and taking all of D. Pelico's devices. In hus computer they found thousands of photographs of his sleeping wife with up to 82 different men. That's important to know. If that security guard and this particular policeman didnt go all the way, this crime would have never been found.
Why is the reporter using words like 'under sedation'? She was drugged (i.e without consent and not montiored by a sedation qualified practioner ). Under sedation imples it was in controlled professional environment with legal consent. That is not what this was.
@@mariebussinger6565 I would bet most are the victims of abuse, most likely when they were still minors. It breaks the psyche completely and brings the warped sense of "normality".
I don’t agree with this. A lot of people consume porn. In fact, a very large percentage are women. They don’t go around raping people. Rapists also watch porn. It is a correlation. Porn does not create rapists. It is not a causation.
I have mental health conditions. I have criminal ideation. The difference is that I have learnt and am still learning and practicing daily to control it. Yes I'm autistic and I was abused as a child. And I don't prove my masculinity, toxic, maladaptive or dysfunctional or healthy. Men are stuck in a negative feedback loop of what it means to be a man. My autistic brain goes with what do you look like on the outisde and which chromosomes you have. I also understand androgyny and intersex and non-genders but usually they are not the sexual prepretrators. They tend to have a non-violent expression of their sexuality... Contrary to popular belief....
Time to ban men from internet usage... or set up "male internet access" which is severely limited, monitored and moderated. If you can't handle behaving while having freedom, you don't get the freedom... like a child being grounded.
Unfortunately, they control everything including the law. Whoever created corn is the largest mass murderer in the world and is responsible for so much misery.
Hema Sibi making a good point here IMO about the Mayor's terrible comment about nobody dying. No wonder so many entitled rapists felt emboldened to chance their luck by attacking this woman. I can only hope that if he does not resign the electorate can at least show the strength of their feelings.
@@eryniel3585 A good point! I never made that connection. The concentration seems to to on the 50 defendants, not those who they could not identify. Hopefully, they are are very worried at the moment.
the lawyers who claim it was the rapists 'mental illness' should be prosecuted, it's insulting to those who are actually mentally ill, the majority who, would never hurt another human being, they respect others. Lack of respect is not a mental illness, not being able to control your urges is not a mental illness, having addictions does not make you incapable of knowing what you are doing is morally wrong, it's time these stupid excuses are called out for what they are, excuses, not DEFENSES.
Yeah claiming mental illness is just an excuse and avoiding taking responsibility for their actions, and it does harm the reputation of those who do actually suffer from a mental illness.
As Mrs. Pelicot has repeatedly said, "It's the rape culture." I'm almost 70 and in America, as well as around the world, males for hundreds of years have JUSTIFIED their sexist attitudes against/toward women. We as women must stand up in the 21st century and say, ENOUGH of the lies, passive aggressive, gaslighting/controlling male manipulation due to their own INADEQUACIES and mentally chosen deviance.
"After all, nobody died" from the Mayor of Mazan, the comment from a defendant that the "husband consented" shows that rape culture is deeply ingrained. The website which enabled this in France has only been closed for the last few weeks.
I dont think you can talk about how rape culture is grown without mentioning most of the worlds organised religions. There is a very deep ownership and permission "to take" structure built into us from our beginnings ... beginnings as a species and now individually child by child. Men are whispered to that it's ok, women are told its easier to just be quiet... and it might be their fault anyway.
My stepfathers perversions where swept up by the church adviser, who then said he had been to at least 4 sessions and he is good now! He was not good, and is still not good. Cameras in the bathrooms, peeping through the keyholes, infra red scope camera through the keyhole, coming into my room as I slept, going into my room when I am not there to touch himself. He has video footage of me naked, bathing. He is still in the church, preaches, hangs out amonst children, has a apartment next to the pools at a holiday apartment. My half brother and sister do not talk to me, and my mum hardly sees me (and we cannot have a open conversation at all).
@@merhona3472 I think all families get torn apart when sex abuse comes into the equation, especially if it's a minor as you were, it always goes down to who believes who, one child's word against an adult, and court cases are he says she says, no matter what your family says, you did nothing wrong, he was the one who betrayed trust, who violated your privacy and in the most horrific way, trust me you are better off with little or no contact with a family like that, if you stick around they try to destroy you, with abuse that leads to drink and drug addictions, then they pontificate you're not a reliable witness, etc seen it time and time again. You are better off to keep contact to a minimum and keep your life private from them, it's harsh but you had the courage to speak out and that says a lot about your character, don't every forget that, you're very brave. You did nothing wrong.
What was done to this woman goes on everyday in some part of the world where being born a girl is seen as a burden. Rape Culture was/has been an overlooked and accepted practice by Military Institutions and Prisons. They combined have help make such acts acceptable, ignored and covered up. How else would the “Elite” get sons of peasants to go off to war for them if females & boys where not (offered up) sexually as payment/booty… for their service? So it’s not just the religious Patriarchs who train and groom males to behave this way and be ok with it.
@merhona3472 Go and talk to official. See the family court. Not the police. A church is not a law enforcement agency. Believing that will be a weakness of the mind. What you describe is unacceptable. And there is help against violence against woman and predator. If you are a child most country will put restriction on that horrific man to protect you and everywhere child and woman.
Wait, what? Rape was not defined in the French criminal code until 1978?!!! How is that possible? How did they prosecute rape before then if it wasn't defined? I can't wrap my head around that.
Shock waves? Really? France and Germany, the only two countries where I've been harassed in day light on the street and stalked. In one case, in Paris, a police car with officers were outside by the car saw, everything, I went to them to ask for help and they said "What do you want us to do, just ignore him." Ignore a dude who was following me. Got it.
Are wives still considered "property" of their husband's in France? Have your Property Laws been changed to reflect reality a wife is independent person from her husband?
In fact, Gisèle divorced her husband to protect the "family" wealth when he became bankrupt, then remarried him later. So I guess the woman is not considered property.
really liking the important information and awareness that comes from this interview with these different professional experts contributing their knowledge to make people aware of these atrocities , thank you.
Thank you for having this discussion publicly. It clarifies the essence of violence against women and how widespread it is around the world, not just in France.
She is a great woman. As a victim of disgusting crimes often committed against women by men. The unbelievable strength she has is incredible! She is so loved by us all ♥️
@@margaretupama2352 Internalized sexism: Women can unconsciously absorb beliefs about their rightful place in society, which can lead to them judging other women in a way that can increase their power and standing among men.
With that man as a Father I will rather to be horfane.He is the worst person in the entire WORLD.I will change my name, my address, everything. Shame on him.
No matter how much you protest, you are responsible for all of your actions. Victim blaming, victim shaming, excusing the behavior because of addiction are all pathetic excuses to use. There is NO EXCUSE. EVER. That mayor saying well.. no one died? She did die.. all her life was a lie, her life died. What a shameful thing to say. It's disgusting that she was victimized by so many and he has the audacity to say such stupid comments. He's not a leader of any empathy but part of the problem.
Parents, raise your children to respect other people. This mentality starts from a young age and is nudged on by the subtle and sometimes not so subtle message of disrespecting women. In movies, often women are used as a supporting character and are talked over by men. Teach children about dignity and respect across all genders.
I remember the first time my son expressed interest in a girl, my husband encouraged him to ask her out, but reminded him that he must always treat her with respect! I married a good one!
@liv0003 They don't know what love is. They think love is possession, domination, the right to abuse the objectified person, and all who are around him, even the entire world, as Dominique Pericon has done by brutalising us all with what he has done.
Now that those men have been found guilty, their faces need to be shown. If the victim waives anonymity, then the defendants should not have the option to choose it, especially after the guilty verdict.
Her statement bought me to tears. She is so strong and courageous. Face those men... its scares me to think that those vile men have wives and children...going about their lives like nothing has happened. They are rapists and should all be charged!!
Horrible. What a horrible experience for Gisèle Pericot. And all these 80 men went home after their raping, some of them single, but probably most of them to their own wives, relationships, girl-friends. They are victims, too! They were put at risk of getting a STD plus living now with the certainty that their loved one is a misogynist sex-offender that their normal, bourgois life was only ONE side of them, that secretly they were looking in some chatroom for abuse-victims. For each of these man one has to investigate and prosecute whether they did not offended more women.
Never married. Raised my children alone. Everything i ever lost was lost to a man. I'm free, happy and financially independant. How did women let things get this bad. Raise your children to understand that we create life.. we do it all.
@@catherinewoolf504 I'll tell you something that happens everywhere all the time... Women and girls are the primary victims of lethal violence AT HOME in every part of the world, accounting for 6 out of 10 unalivings committed by intimate partners or other family members. Every 11 min a woman or a girl is unalived in her own home by a partner or a family member (!!!!) according to data published by the UNODC I survived my family of origin, I won't take the chance to end up a number in this UN statistic! And I couldn't find a global statistic about other forms of violence towards women and girls, the violence that doesn't end up with unalivings, SA, grape, beatings, verbal violence, emotional violence, abuse, etc
One cannot believe that these men have their identity protected! This poor women had no privacy when she was raped and her pictures plastered on the internet! Evil, I say EVIL! Shame on those who treat her as part of this evil scheme of her evil husband!! Everyone that says she must have given consent wake up, you are part of this perpetuation of this crime!! Sending love and prayers to Gisele Pelicot!! We stand with you! Greetings from New Zealand!❤❤❤
There's at least one directly related to Dominique Pelicot. You can do a search for details. There is an unrelated case in Korea. There have been many cases like this that don't make international news. Those don't include the ones that meet the legal definition for trafficking either.
Jean Pierre Marechal is a buddy of Dominique Pelicot. Mr. Marechal invited Mr. Pelicot over to his house to drug his own wife and r@ped her many times. Weirdly, his wife has not divorced him. Mr. Marechal has testified in Court and is identified in the press now. I am sure there are many others because this is just too easy. I think in the end, we will find out half the women in the area were subjected to this nightmare.
@@MayThereBeWorldPeace P Diddy is in the news and is sitting in jail today. Apparently, he was drugging women too so they could "party" for days. It is in every news source.
Thank you France 24 and to Gisèle Pélicot and the brave and wise women that are helping enlighten and enliven we men towards standing up for women. The abuses must end! We all suffer for them.
Saying that none of those men are criminals simply because they don't have a criminal record has to be the definition of gaslighting. What they did is a crime, therefore they are all criminals.
Absolutely.
And if these men would do something like this, no telling what else they have been up to.
Well… giving the statement the benefit of the doubt: it’s descriptive to the fact that they’ve presently never been convicted of a crime and are still innocent until proven guilty. To name them criminals, despite what one might feel personally, as a journalist, would be incorrect reporting and manipulating an opinion.
It’s a tight rope to walk to provide an unbiased report. The whole of the report clearly indicates that the crime itself is horrendous. They then allow other “experts” explain, quite clearly, the various aspects surrounding this crime.
And it makes no sense. There's always the first time for every criminal. No one's born with a criminal record.
Those men are also trafficking their own wives
Why are these men allowed to cover their faces and not be named? Why protect them?
I agree. I hope that once the case has completed and the perpetrators found to be guilty, their faces and names are all plastered all over the Internet - they don’t deserve anonymity. However I do feel for their family members and hope the local communities will treat the family members with compassion.
They are not sentenced guilty yet...
I thought the same and later I thought they have children that ultimately will be them who suffer shame for his fathers.
@@MAK10pso as long as they are said to be accused it should be fine... I mean the victim's info is out there why should they be protected
A person who has been accused, but not proved guilty has their identity concealed, until the verdict is handed down.
In cases of unfounded accusation, the stigma of the accusation is enough to destroy the accused's life. That is the down side of revealing it, and is considered more weighty than the honesty of revealing who is being accused. I think that's a good decision.
Crime against women is not seen as a crime and this is the problem with the world
🎯 becoz we have been raised in a society that has always treated women like 2nd class human beings & in a very condescending manner
@@yplwfzyui5 And now we are being erased, as even the words, woman, female, girl, mother are being changed to person or people, while men who put on a dress are being called women.
@@yplwfzyui5imagine being a non white woman!
But this is seen as a crime which is why all of these men are being prosecuted.
So so sad.
50 men were easily identified on the videos and arrested by the French police. those are the men in court now. But approximately 80+ men are on video abusing Gisele. So there are approximately 30+ more men for which the police are still searching and need to be brought to justice.
They are our neighbours and coworkers and fathers and brothers and husbands. Horrifying that these men move through the world despite being monsters.
@@Cauldron6- When I read a list of some of their jobs, the most terrifying one to me, is the ambulance driver. That's the one fear I have about hospitals - that men like that are all too real.
@@c.g.bspendersashtray3037Ambulance driver😳? How is he going to say that he doesn't know that she was drugged, she was just pretend? It is disgusting.
@@auroralights2759
Hmmmm
Indeed….😮
I can't believe he was able to find so many willing participants. I can't believe they found the experience good. I mean, having sex with an unconscious woman, what is it that they were enjoying? Only the abuse and the idea of it.
I am shocked to hear the reasons that men wanted to humiliate and hurt women as well along with total lack of empathy. This case is so shocking and heartbreaking and yet Gisèle has restored my faith in humanity. She knowingly fighting for the rights of victims globally at such a huge expense to herself when it is not done usually.
Unfortunately I’m not shocked at all that these cretins crawl out from under rocks to make their opinions heard. Many men have a deep hatred for women, even ones who aren’t supposed to. They feel a sense of entitlement over them. This is why they r*pe, k!ll and control due to misogynistic views of women. They’re a disease on the planet and as women are the majority, we should all rise up against them. The problem is men need women more than women need men, otherwise they would have wiped us out altogether. Their main aim is to take what they can from women and give little to nothing back, meanwhile most women give, care and nurture. Men take and destroy.
She is the strongest.
She is really strong, and they are complete cowards
So many men harbor hostile feelings towards women. An even larger number of men are unable to see women as full people, they see us as natural support systems, servants, breeders and seks objects there for men's needs. Beware of dogs.
After hearing about the cases of Telegram groups around the world where men shared videos of their own mothers, sisters, wives and daughters in their own homes I'm not shocked anymore. These groups numbered hundreds of thousands of men. The male mind is capable of all kinds of horrors.
Honestly, the scariest part of this whole case is that he wouldn't have been caught if those women didn't notify the security at the grocery store about him taking pictures/recording under other women skirts 😭😢
The security guard's response was first class. French is not my first language but I know enough to recognize he, like me, is a "foreigner".
@@pynn1000 I saw the video of the security guard -- he is not a foreigner. He is French. He has a provencal accent.
@@anastasia10017 I'm really bad at English regional accents, let alone French. I thought I recognized provençal with the soft "g" after "pain", "vin" etc. Thanks for the correction.
Btw pelicot had been looked into because his dna was found on another woman's sa and murder. They looking into his phone because of that.
@@babyruthless9670 my husband did that too. He was so much like DP it’s scary.
Eventually the shame is being flipped onto the perpetrators, and not on the victims. And rightly so.
I’m a mom of an underage daughter who was abused (raped) several times. The law in Mexico does not constitute those acts as rape but as “estupro,”which means rape of a lessen category 🙄 Even though she was groomed by a 45 year old man the law says it is estupro and the penalties hardly include jail time. To make a long story short I was able to pursue the case and go to trial until the end and he did a year and a half jail time. He’s now free with restrictions. That is short of a miracle here in Mexico. As a result of being abandoned by the law and society I created a Non Profit organization to help all victims of abuse, specially those who lack the monetary means for their legal defense. My daughter is ok now and listening to all of you and Mrs. Pericot has given me the strength and courage I need to pursue our mission which is to turn abuse victims into survivors. May god be with all abuse victims. 🙏🏻
In Ireland that's 'statutory rape' meaning there's no defense a man or woman can give to mitigate what they did, it's rape end of, no discussion. Now they do try to bring in defenses but it's not entertained by the courts, rape a minor, it's rape end of, no legal arguments you're found guilty and face a full 10 years at the least, they will take into account, a few things, she said she was older, she looked older, she was in a place where only over 21's are allowed but there still guilty of rape, they might get a month or two off sentence, stops a lot of grooming when it's statutory rape. The minor CANNOT CONSENT, they are too young to consent. 17 is the legal age of consent, any age under that is statutory rape.
So many unpunished rapes around the world. This have to end.
Thank you for your hard work. May your daughter be happy and healthy.
I'm so sorry this happened to your daughter. I hope she is ok now. Thank you for your hard work and helping others who are victims of rape.
What is the name of your organization?
This is crazy. How is this 2024 and we still can't get 100% of people to agree that rape is rape?!
The fact that we have to have these conversations in 21st century is very sad! 😢
We could ONLY have these conversations in the 21st century. The Internet allows dark and evil to spread and infect minds like never before.
We did only get rights fully like 50 years ago in the west.
Do you think that human nature will change now, after 2 million years?
Men haven't changed at all. Actually, with the internet, now they act on their sick fantasies and connect with others like them. Awful.
@@Pikrodafnithis is not human nature ..it is reptilian behavior. Human being has the densest frontal cortex but if it is not functioning then they are not human. If the are not human and they cause more harm to the whole society then they are not needed
It beggars belief that a husband could do this to his wife and mother of his children. Evil, evil man.
He apparently took inappropriate photos of his child as well. Devoid of the ability to empathize and love.
@@HannaBenana Like most men.
@@kiowah231please don‘t hate on all men. I know enough men who can love very deeply and would never do something like this. It would not help at all to simply vilify all men. I assume this specific husband was a sociopath/psychopath (I‘m not a psychologist, so I don‘t know the exact difference). And also women can be sociopaths / psychopaths and do unbelievable things to their own children. Such people live in all countries, this is not a French-only problem. But the French laws and what the lawyers of these men said in public without any shame is really an issue.
@@HannaBenana and his daughters in law. His nieces said that he asked them to get naked a young children to be able to get a reward (or eat i dont remember)
@denkenhilft1607 you should direct that energy at changing how other men deal with terrible men than at pleasing with traumatized women. you need to leave us alone and go to the real problem.
"He doesn't have the personality to say 'no'." Too bad Gisèle Pélicot didn't have the opportunity to say 'no'.
Amen
Like anyone like this would ever heard someone's 'no' and respect it. Never.
The gall/stupidity required to say that sentence about a rapist client, in this context no less.. then to say he's not delinquent??? What IS delinquent then?
They're trying to frame the victim as an alcoholic and a liar, despite terrabytes of video evidence, but his client who agreed to violate an unconscious woman, behind his wife/kid's back, ISN'T a delinquent??
A man in Singapore did this same vile thing to his wife!
There are chat groups, online communities of men who do this to their wives/daughters/sisters!!
They must be stopped!
Unfortunately I’m sure it happens in many countries in the world,it just never comes to light.
I was thinking about that trial as well.
it happens everywhere. the film Women Talking was about a case in ultra-conservative mennanite community - 8 men charge with drugging and raping over 150 women and girls (3 - 65 years) over 5 years.
women in comas are sexually assualting very often. many morgues won't employ men, or let them work alone, because they will abuse the corpses. there are writings in ancient egypt specifiying that attractive young women should not be embalmed immediately, in order that the body can decay a little and becoming less enticing to the embalmer.
this isn't a modern thing, it has nothing to do with porn.
It's everywhere. 90% of men have these types of fantasies.
@@trishna_6815porn has “normalized” abuse.
The defense lawyer claiming they don’t believe the victim was sedated is straight up gaslighting.
Each man who deliberately went to the victims home and raped the unconscious victim should be convicted and imprisoned. Their prior lack of criminal record just means that they weren’t caught previously.
And men wonder why women don’t trust them when they see how “ordinary” men who will abuse a woman if they think they’ll get away with it.
The mayor needs to resign immediately!
The defense lawyers claiming they don't think she was unconscious is straight up against the whole set-up that these --men-- r****sts were interested in.
You cannot have one without the other. It's beyond disgusting and appalling.
Mdme. Pelicot, for her courage and poise, is a SAINT.
GASLIGHTING, VICTIM BLAMING, SHAME SHIFTING, MANSPLAINING, DARVO, MIMIMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII. HYSTERICAL WOMEN WHO GOT HURTED
They were recorded whispering for God's sake
@@kimberlydubois7453and many of them admitted that they knew it was not consensual.
Women are 52%. Vote him out!
It hurts me that victims are humiliated in court, accused of complicity when they are the ones pushing for justice. Violence against women needs to be exposed, and stopped.
The tactic used against the women rape victims is the Narcisstic Gaslighting tactic.
Crazy
Who would ever comply to something like this
Who would ever comply to some sick crap like this
She had literal terrabytes of video evidence of herself being assaulted.. and they still try to frame her as a liar and even being sick enough to say she was into it!
To me, that speaks volumes about the uphill struggle that victims with no video evidence of the crimes committed against them face..
If someone with video after video after video of the abuse, can't get justice without being treated this way.. what chance do other victims have??
Those 50 defendants should be in prison!
15 of them are, because they are repeat offenders. Conjugal violence (and in France you need to have at least a broken nose for the man to get a custodian jail sentence), viewing child porn, and in one case, incest (on his daughter, who was a child).
Is there a chance they won't be?
@@CipricusThere is every chance. Male judges are always sympathetic to male abusers.
sick sick society! No words to describe how horrible behavior of these men!!!
And about 30 more who were on the videos but not yet identified!
Did you see one of the rapists giving the finger at the camera at 21:09? Imo it says a lot about his lack of shame or remorse.
Madame Pelicot is the bravest woman, huge respect!
and yet, she waited until the 50th? wasn't the 3rd already too much? I don't get it...
The comments of the Mayor of Mazan were shocking to me: ‘well no children were raped, she didn’t die, no one was murdered,
It’ll be hard on the family, but they’ll get over it.’
He should resign.
He filmed their daughter
Im stunned by the audacity of the mayor.
The mayor needs to be investigated. Likely had done similar things.
Maybe he has what we call “ skeleton in the cupboard!”😮
Wonder if he'll be one of the 30+ they can't yet identify in the videos.
It’s NOT SEX SCENE- It’s rape. shame on those lawyers & judges in that courtroom
agreed
They are men in the male club and will always protect each other before they protect a woman.
@@ankiking And unfortu ately there are many women who would sooner side with men, the dominant half of society, because women are socialized to compete with and mistrust each other.
I always find ridicolous when you have to call judges "your honour" when they have no basic morals whatsoever. And they do one of the most important jobs in our society. It's disgusting.
It's a club of men bonding over an experience of power and violence.
Turn it around: what if you are a straight man living with a roommate or a family member, like a brother, and that brother has been systematically drugging you, letting men into your room to sodomize you over a 10 year period? I'm sorry to be that graphic, but I think the vast majority of men, even men who would never rape a woman, are able to understand the extreme violence if its a man who is the victim, but somehow cannot equate that it is exactly the same horror for a woman. This is what the speaker in the video means by the objectification and dehumanization of women.
The terrifying thing is, how many other women were on this website “without their knowledge”?
It's a scary thought that any of us could be, after what we thought 'wow I slept like a rock last night!'
@@JuliaTsangI do not sleep around men any more. I live alone and I don't fall asleep around men. I've had trauma from men before but not sexually thankfully.
I fear the Husband’s rapes went long before video evidence, long before his access to drugs. Are there missing women or girls we don’t know about?
Not one of the 50 men thought ‘She’s sick, maybe we shouldn’t do this’ or ‘maybe we should help her’? Absolutely horrible. 😮
They met on a thread called 'without consent', they knew why they were there
Men may have thought that she was acting
Scary that so many men are like this
@@Incarvillea.1243keep making excuses buddy.. you are creepy
You are part of the problem.. no woman acts that out
Obviously a lot of people knew. It's dusgusting how many men were willing to rape.
As long as there are men who get turned on by perpetrating violent acts against victims, there will continue to be more victims. 🤷🏼♀️
90% of men have these non-consensual sexual fantasies. I'm part of the alternative sexual lifestyle community and I have to explain to men in the community how to not harm people when indulging their fantasies. Problem is men go about making these fantasies reality by harming people.. Men and women and children.. It happens to gay men also.
One cannot understand that so many men is easily lead to take part in this atrocity!
Gisele Pelicot, we stand with you! We pray for you and that you may heal in time!❤❤❤
Something that tops that are women who support and pursue relationships with men that have a history/criminal record of rape/molestation and many exposed their children to those predators because they want a man under their arm 24/7.
Do you remember that film "Taken" ... and how many men lined up outside to have sex with drugged women?
The SHAME is on these men.
It is not chemical ‘submission’ it is chemical constraint.
Exactly. In safeguarding we call it chemical restraint. Either way, there was no submission.
@@lks6248 Submission? It’s non consensual! It’s still a rape!
Chemical coma/unconsciousness for purpose of abuse and amnesia of victim encircled by knowing adults.
This is common approach to child and adults victims across the modern world.
Leaving people 'unconscious' in mind, with strange thought and physical sickness is the result.
This is usually impossible to detect, is further 'hidden' by 'lost' or ignored corroborating evidence and is why we have people amongst us who suffer terribly, with some developing and still connecting knowingly with others who have violent and cruel 'fetishes', addictions etc.
Agree there is nothing submissive about it. She did not submit, he ‘controlled’.
I agree totally.
Why minimize what this was. “Submission” implies somewhat of a choice or some consciousness.
My gratitude to this woman is never ending, this happened to me but I waa never believed. Her report helped validated my experience. Merci bien madame ❤❤❤❤
This is awful Cecilia and I am so sorry you had to endure that suffering.
i think many victims of physical, mental and emotional will regain self respect and stop blaming themselves.
Much love to you, i hope you're safe now
I’m so sorry 😢 I hope you’re getting the support you need ❤
I believe you.
Disgraceful comment by that mayor. He clearly is morally bankrupt.
That's how they are. Vile
He's involved?
French papers reported the mayor has gone into "hiding" a couple of days ago.
I cried through most of this interview. Gisele’s story is my story. The exact same thing happened to me. I never thought I would hear about this happening to someone else because even I didn’t believe it was possible but my husband got men to have sex with me while I was unconscious. I don’t know how long this was going on but one day I found video and photographic evidence that this happened to me. I didn’t report it because I was too shocked and embarrassed and also I didn’t think anyone would believe me. I have lived with the horrors and nightmares of this for years. I have lived with depression,anxiety and panic attacks ever since. I am so proud of Gisele for having the courage to do what she is doing. She is a hero for women who have been victims of sexual violence. I wish I could reach out and hug her and thank her so very much for standing up not just for herself but for all of us who have endured this kind of abuse. Merci Gisele! Je suis Gisele aussi .
So sorry for you! Thank you for sharing! 💔
@@abbyadda1 thank you too
You’re a survivor and do NOT be hard on yourself for keeping it to yourself! This patriarchal world is NOT kind en masse to women who go through this. Sending you lot’s of love and wishes for you to enjoy your life and focus on loving the amazing woman you ARE!!!! ❤❤❤ X
I sit here in solidarity with you. It is so important to speak out, because someone in a similar situation can realise it was not their fault, or they shouldn't be ashamed of what happened. From my perspective, I know that the beginning of the MeToo movement helped me in that regard. It is so heartbreaking to hear that most rapists are people closest to you - true in my case as well.
Don't cheapen her experience by saying the exact same thing happened to you. You don't know what she went through.
The Mayor's comment that 'nobody died' after 70+ men raped Gisēle in her own home by the invitation of her 'husband', is not only untrue it is also part of the problem, that yet again - a man - views the most serious of crimes committed against women (after murder) as 'non-specific, she'll get over it' attitude.
Gisèle - the woman that was - died after being raped by those men. She will never again be the woman that she was, after they violated her physically, mentally, and spiritually.
That woman, was.
She's gone.
This Gisèle you see before you, is a version of her former self, an adaption fighting to survive after
THEY RAPED HER.
Even the man who walked away, even though he did not take part, he allegedly subjected his own wife to rape , with Gisèle's husband taking part. So, he's still 'connected' to the crime.
One rapist, is one too many and why the MeToo movement thrives across the world, as women are subjected to being thought of as 'objects' not as equal human beings deserving of respect.
May Gisēle eventually receive justice and find solace & peace along the path to healing ahead.
Bless... 🙏🏼
This is EXACTLY how I describe what happened to me as a child who was abused. I say it was murder because there is no resurrection of the person I was or would have been before it happened.
You don’t « just get over it ».
Victims or Survivors carry the consequences and damage forever. It’s a life sentence and meanwhile the abusers just go on with their life without punishment.
The mayor is a fiend as is any person who defends or minimizes this horror.
@@PoetReBlossoms the drugs used are dangerous...criminal...
Imagine those genetics in rheir children, with a pervert dad.
My heart is breaking for Gisele Pelicot. I sometimes try to make sense of the world through numbers, but in this case, it’s unsettling. Typically, men comprise about 48-50% of the population. In Manzan there are approximately 6,000 residents. Considering a 50 km radius, the number of men aged 26-74 in Manzan and the surrounding area could range from 1,200 to 3,000. Among these, 90 men are accused to have raped Gisele. That’s about 3% of the men, and it’s utterly crushing. It’s not a village of rapists, it’s probably just an accurate representation of how many man would involve themselves in such disgusting acts anywhere else.
Plenty of stories like that in France...
@le_chat4911 , I think it happens in many countries and cultures. There are so many rapes in India. Very violent. This woman is very, very brave.
I think what makes it worse is that Gisèle ex husband stated 7/10 men he asked were happy to partake in her abuse which means that there were men who knew what was happening to her and chose to ignore...
@@carisaunders2346
No where you'll find a man giving his wife like that, that's only in France !
I am pretty sure the numbers are even higher, but yes, it`s everywhere, all over the world.
This case is as much about sex trafficking as it is about rape, the husband should also be charged with drugging his wife, endangering his wife, human trafficking and domestic abuse! Men have been coercing woman and girls for centuries into making pornography and pornography leads to many perversions, dehumanizing women and encourages men to think that women like this, and that if they don’t, they are not desirable women! This case is going to be very important and Giselle is so brave, I think it is ironic that she will awaken many to the horrible things men will do to the unconscious and non-consenting!
She was diagnosed with 3 different STDs.
I consider him to be guilty of murder.
Coercing ? 😂 Women are voluntarily doing it to get easy money without doing any hard work..
The widespread acceptance of this in our society that makes 80 men think this is ok to do to someone. Sexual violence shouldn’t be just a women’s issue men need to start actually calling each other out.
Well said, and not just call them out, report them, there has to be men in that village who knew what was going on, and turned a blind eye instead of making a report to authorities.
All the comments here should show it’s not wide spread acceptance. People are outraged however sick people will always find a way for their sickness. Normal people just need to be better at defending ourselves and voicing our outrage and fighting back so these sick people will learn to get healthy instead of giving in to their sickness and depravity
The fact that men men needed a hash law to criminalize --pe. Should tell you something, or not??
90% of men have these psychologically violent and physically violent fantasies/impulses. The patriarchy tells them that they must repress sexual emotion and sexual expression while being sexually aggressive and sexually control and dominate as many female representatives as possible.
What's sick is that it's MUCH MUCH more than 80 men globally.
Where are the outrages of the men about this case? They are so quiet now. Where are the "great protectors"?
Someone made a comment that stuck with me. "Men are not our protectors. They are our only natural predators."
Best question.
'great protectors ' ?
More likely ' great perpetrators'
Who are "the men"? - Do you mean ANY man should feel personally guilty because he is a "male"? - Solidarity between ALL males (or all "females"!) is demented. Feminism makes sense against pushing people into such roles. When I think about such solidarity I imagine something like that group of rapists. I don't want to feel solidarity with "the men" and say something in their name. - Of course I regret that I personally wasn't in a position to help and that others didn't help either! But my moral outrage and solidarity with the victim I express it in my own name exclusively, unrelated to my nationality or gender! --- On the other hand, "the men" of that village or what the hell it is should say something - and the women too - because it is hard to believe nobody knew anything. ---
@@ClaireGreen-wd2gm Very true.
This is another reason why smart women choose the bear.
Choose the bear? What does that mean?
@@genevievedolan1288 google it.
@genevievedolan1288
Women have been asked in interviews if they rather meet a bear or a man in the woods. Most said they are team bear🐻. This case is another example why. You can find lots of discussions on it online.
@@jdmmg4904 thanks for the explanation
@@jdmmg4904 Thanks!
I have literally cried for this woman. It is the worst case I have heard in many years. This is the ultimate betrayal and I hope she has family and friends that can help her through this difficult time. She is so Incredibly powerful for coming forward and speaking out. I wish the best and much needed healing for this beautiful woman.
Every single time I watch a video or see an article on this case I cry. This is so heartbreaking on so many levels
It's all too common
number of men accused of rape reminds me of war crimes against women
my friend, the ones who die every day suicidal or in dangerous jobs are not women, because maternity protects them. creating a privileged class is not equity. We must take care of men to save women.
About 15 years ago there was a case where a man was doing something similar with his 12yo step daughter in my town. He also video taped the men who raped her, and one of them was a coworker I was friendly with. We used to chat about our small children. I was absolutely shocked. He seemed like a very normal and nice family man.
omg, just shows you
Were they charged and penalized?
@@beaulieuc8910 the case in a town called Outreau in the north of France is one with children and men in the town taking part and being videoed. 90% of men have these sexually fantasies but repress them instead of learning to control them.
Have you seen photos of the people who went to Jeffery Epstein's island? Lots of family men, "nice guys".
How are there so many cases of this!!! Truly heartbreaking
In other programs I've watched about this case, they said the husband was also secretly filming his daughter and daughter in law when they were changing their clothes or in the bathroom. If true, it makes we wondering what else he has done.
yes the daughter wrote a book about this. I listened to it on Audible (I can't get the Kindle version because I live overseas). It is very well written and shocking for the whole family. The book is called Et J'ai cesse de t'appeler papa and she uses the name Caroline Darian
His daughter believes she was drugged and also raped!
He's also being investigated for at least one rape that happened in the past, there are also suspicions that he might be a murderer.
He also helped at least one man to drug and rape that man's wife, but she didn't press charges. He was caught because he was filming women in the mall, so yes, there's a lot more that's just being unraveled.
Yes, his daughter accused him of rape too.
@@-notmycat apparently it was his DNA that was found in the murder and rape case of Sophie Narme
What about the drs that she was seeing with STD's and complaining that she felt unwell with a foggy brain. Why didnt they ever suspect something was wrong. Where did they think she was getting a STD from.
Did they even test her? I read somewhere they just put it down to stress or hysteria.
It's simple. Rape was never suspected by the doctors because she allways woke up next to her husband every morning. They never did rape kits on her because she was with her husband. Her husband has allways been unfaithfull and she knew about it. So she asumed he got it from a sex worker or on of his mistresses.
@@elizabethpieters7798no, the drs dropped the ball. Here in the US, drs are mandated reporters. I've had a social worker come speak to me because I had broken my hand when I fell leaving work on ice. They still had to report an injury that aligned with suspected abuse.
The drs failed her and should be sued so the rest of them can learn the lesson.
@@elizabethpieters7798I thought she said he was a good, loving husband. A cheat isn’t a good husband.
There’s still a certain amount of Drs that ascribe blame to the woman. I had a very pretty female friend (co-worker) whose husband kept reinfecting her with the diseases of other women he slept with. Her Dr just kept treating her with antibiotics and said snide things like, “behave yourself” or “control yourself” instead of asking her if they needed marital counseling. She found it demeaning and humiliating but never told the Dr the truth. It infuriated me. Maybe her Dr knew, but he kept quiet about it.
Just in case anybody cared.....this is exactly what my husband tried to do. It turns out his "secret fetish" was watching non consentual sex. After a few uncomfortable conflicts....I RAN. I didn't talk, I RAN. You don't say "I love you, but I need to watch other men abuse you. Please understand." NO!!!!! That's not a "little kinky". That is wAY OVER THE TOP. Horrifying that one of these men actually pulled it off. THank GODS I don't drink! That is the one thing that could have saved me.
Nah, he’d just drug your food
I do care, thank you for sharing your story. Your story along with others show that this is far more common than we think. I wish you all the best
I do wish us females could have a secure and authentic data base . So many woman have information that would inform dating .
@@samporter2146😮 what a good idea! Could be defamation legally though
@@Kathleen-vl5wsif multiple witness in a defamation case say that the alleged defamation is true... There it is not defamation beyond a reasonable doubt. That's why Cassie won her Civil suit against P. Diddy.... Lots of evidence and witnesses. Men have always had these impulses... It's just with tracking on device we are finding out how deep it runs.
Omfg, was the major involved or something???!! "It couldve been worse, nobody died" what a heartless response!!
Sounds like he was in on it.
Wow wow wow, the souls of these men are rotten. Terrifying how easy it was for the husband to find like-minded men. An important reminder that they exist among us and all around us.
90% of men have these types of sexual fantasies. They just repress it but if you give them the opportunity they will act on it. Not to kink shame but we still need to make sure or sexual expression is legal and non-harmful.
That mayor of Mazan belongs in jail.
Removed from office and placed In mandatory intense counseling at the very least.
i actually think his words highlight that there are people in authority, and others who still think and act as though women and girls are second rate citizens.
"He doesn't have the personality to say no" ,what a pathetic excuse. "Oh your honour I couldn't say no to robbing the bank" what kind of assholes are these lawyers?
He might well be one of the offenders.🙄
He should step down for real
I would divorce the defence lawyer if I would be his wife.
Defense lawyer is female.
@@daria841Her husband or wife should divorce her!
@@zaynab2085 agreed.
@@daria841 she is not showing any empathy at all for her client. Making it clear she is doing the required job of a defense lawyer. A basic principle that everyone is entitled to a defense
@@genevievedolan1288 I understand that. Being a woman, I don't think I could do that though 🤔
‘At least no one died’ what planet is that Mayor on? He should be sacked!
I want to give that lady a big hug. She went through and is going through a lot.
Totally! There is ZERO empathy from these men towards the victim. Not just rapists but utter cowards.
And that MAYOR 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
And again, this is why so many of us prefer to be alone.
This is sex trafficking as well..
Patriarchal culture harms everyone. Rape culture goes hand in hand with the patriarchy due to the placement of one gender over another and the power imbalances that come with this inequality. This trial is horrifying and yet not surprising given the billions of women and children throughout time who have had their autonomy taken away and their psyches and bodies used as if they were not alive. Rape and reproductive rights are also integrally linked and were one is seen as not serious the other is also not seen as important. This report is far overdue and so extremely important.
🎯 You have spoken well!!!
Men are dangerous and not trustworthy
It not just one gender against another. It defines being a man as being dominant, aggressive, obsession with ego, power and control and hypersexual. This plays out in gay rape also. They also drug gay men too.
The patriarchy tells men to have sex as much as possible, shames them for sex and tells them to repress their sexual expression. Basically creates dysfunctional and criminal behaviours in men... They do the same thing in the gay community and the men are treated worse for reporting gay rape. It's more rare among women.
One of the craziest thing about this story is that one man puts an ad online inviting random men to come SA his wife ---- and almost 100 men show up for it.
Is not crazy, it's sadder than that.. this is the cruel reality we're living in 😑😑😡 where:
- politics don't care about the women to put in place laws & protection for the most vulnerable individuals ( women & children)
- society is driven by toxic masculinity which you can see it everywhere (media, schools, social networks etc) & the 🍇 is downplayed.
@@Seagull_J.Livingston it is crazy that men respond to this ad and it is scary as h3ll that men respond to this ad.
@@anastasia10017 I wouldn't call them "crazy".
Because people who are sick it means they don't control or they don't know what they're doing. Therefore they could not be held responsible.
Meanwhile these ppl - they knew oh too well what they were doing & they felt empowered to do it.. and were thinking they will never get caught.
But Karma shown them otherwise.
It's time for toxic men assume responsibility of their actions and choices.
@@Seagull_J.Livingston I didnt say the people were crazy. If you read what I actually wrote and said was that the story -- i.e. the situation - was crazy.
He obviously forgot to mention he would be filming their faces . ( I haven't followed this case - I'm just assuming they were not aware )
Thank you to every single one of the women appearing here, for their intellect, clarity of mind and conviction in so articulately calling out and standing up to these issues.
Its getting harder to trust any man.
You can't
You cannot
This is why so many men are alone!
They cannot be trusted. They need firm healthy boundaries.
As a man (although a gay one) I don’t blame you.
Shocked about the comments of The Mayor of Mazan.
40 years ago when i was a student nurse in Brisbane Australia, there was a situation where a young woman who had been in a coma for many years came into hospital. During her stay we discovered that someone had been having sex with her. Turned out to be her husband and his friends. It was all kept very quiet and she was eventually sent to a nursing home where that was not going to happen (at least by her husband). Nothing appeared in the news or media back then, it was all hushed up. All I know is her name was Patricia.
How horrific for this and the French woman to be used in such a way.
Ugh my god, so awful. Did he put her in that coma? Just awful.
Wow. I understand why it was kept quiet some people would have a hard time believing it.
@@grioulaloula8594- Men wouldn't find it hard to believe. They know, even the ones who one might call "good," are aware of what men are capable of doing and also do. Women and girls are kept from the truth by historical division where women were not allowed to have voices and challenge authority: men. Women are kept in the dark whilst men are allowed to run free and commit atrocities, as if women aren't their targets.
Disabled women and girls are assaulted at a greater rate than other women same with domestic violence. So I'm not at all surprised, not even about it being hushed up. Women in comas have become pregnant and its only at that point the abuse has been discovered. Some men really really hate women.
There have been coma patients to get pregnant. Mens depravity knows no boundaries.
You should check your facts before going on air. A lot of what you said in the beginning is not quite right.
Nothing to do with photos of a cold case. The husband was caught by a security guard in a shopping center, filming under women skirts. He stopped him and ask the women to do a police report, which some did. One policeman decided to take it further by doing a search and taking all of D. Pelico's devices.
In hus computer they found thousands of photographs of his sleeping wife with up to 82 different men. That's important to know. If that security guard and this particular policeman didnt go all the way, this crime would have never been found.
So you have 2 good men to 80+ bad... Nice...
@@AngelDeedGood to know that there are a few good men out there though
Was it a POLICEMAN or WOMAN who investigated further?
Why is the reporter using words like 'under sedation'? She was drugged (i.e without consent and not montiored by a sedation qualified practioner ). Under sedation imples it was in controlled professional environment with legal consent. That is not what this was.
I'm speechless at the Mayor's words... 😮
He should stand down, his speech was disgraceful in 2024. f
He's probably a perpetrator.
@@tnp1047. That’s what I’m thinking.
Defensive, and toxic positivity. No compassion for the victim
"Pornography is the essence of anti-woman propaganda."---Susan Brownmiller
Yet women throw themselves into Only Fans.
@@mariebussinger6565 I would bet most are the victims of abuse, most likely when they were still minors. It breaks the psyche completely and brings the warped sense of "normality".
I don’t agree with this. A lot of people consume porn. In fact, a very large percentage are women. They don’t go around raping people.
Rapists also watch porn. It is a correlation. Porn does not create rapists. It is not a causation.
I have mental health conditions. I have criminal ideation. The difference is that I have learnt and am still learning and practicing daily to control it. Yes I'm autistic and I was abused as a child. And I don't prove my masculinity, toxic, maladaptive or dysfunctional or healthy. Men are stuck in a negative feedback loop of what it means to be a man. My autistic brain goes with what do you look like on the outisde and which chromosomes you have. I also understand androgyny and intersex and non-genders but usually they are not the sexual prepretrators. They tend to have a non-violent expression of their sexuality... Contrary to popular belief....
@@empathry I agree, blaming porn is an excuse to avoid the rapists taking responsibility for what they did
'My client doesn't have the ability to say no.' how absurd.
Must mean then that Gisele Pelicot raped him then. 🙄
-"Go rape my wife"
-"sure mate"
And it was said completely without irony.
Rubbish. If he can’t say no, why didn’t he say No to raping a sedated woman? I just hope the judge has clarity of thought, fairness & empathy
Time to ban men from internet usage... or set up "male internet access" which is severely limited, monitored and moderated. If you can't handle behaving while having freedom, you don't get the freedom... like a child being grounded.
Well said 👏
haha yes
Who will ban it ? Men control the tech world
Unfortunately, they control everything including the law. Whoever created corn is the largest mass murderer in the world and is responsible for so much misery.
OMG sad how much that is needed.
They wanted to humiliate her, and they are now internationally humiliated.
Hema Sibi making a good point here IMO about the Mayor's terrible comment about nobody dying. No wonder so many entitled rapists felt emboldened to chance their luck by attacking this woman. I can only hope that if he does not resign the electorate can at least show the strength of their feelings.
Kind of makes you wonder if that man is one of the unidentifiable 30+...
@@eryniel3585 A good point! I never made that connection. The concentration seems to to on the 50 defendants, not those who they could not identify. Hopefully, they are are very worried at the moment.
The mayor is shameless
the lawyers who claim it was the rapists 'mental illness' should be prosecuted, it's insulting to those who are actually mentally ill, the majority who, would never hurt another human being, they respect others. Lack of respect is not a mental illness, not being able to control your urges is not a mental illness, having addictions does not make you incapable of knowing what you are doing is morally wrong, it's time these stupid excuses are called out for what they are, excuses, not DEFENSES.
Yeah claiming mental illness is just an excuse and avoiding taking responsibility for their actions, and it does harm the reputation of those who do actually suffer from a mental illness.
As Mrs. Pelicot has repeatedly said, "It's the rape culture." I'm almost 70 and in America, as well as around the world, males for hundreds of years have JUSTIFIED their sexist attitudes against/toward women. We as women must stand up in the 21st century and say, ENOUGH of the lies, passive aggressive, gaslighting/controlling male manipulation due to their own INADEQUACIES and mentally chosen deviance.
Is anyone really shocked? P Diddy is the American example and we have many more predators everywhere we go
"After all, nobody died" from the Mayor of Mazan, the comment from a defendant that the "husband consented" shows that rape culture is deeply ingrained. The website which enabled this in France has only been closed for the last few weeks.
P diddy, Dennis hastert, epstein, Anthony wiener, d j trump, Strom Thurmond, Matt Gaetz, ted nugent, to name just a few.
Not after coming to France myself. The people are odd.
Yes, I am beyond shocked. How could one not be shocked. The most horrific and ultimate abuse.
@@befree4820 "The people are odd"? Do you need help?
What a strong woman. I'm so glad she decided to make this as public as possible because male offenders are usually protected and not revealed.
I dont think you can talk about how rape culture is grown without mentioning most of the worlds organised religions. There is a very deep ownership and permission "to take" structure built into us from our beginnings ... beginnings as a species and now individually child by child. Men are whispered to that it's ok, women are told its easier to just be quiet... and it might be their fault anyway.
Spot on!
My stepfathers perversions where swept up by the church adviser, who then said he had been to at least 4 sessions and he is good now! He was not good, and is still not good. Cameras in the bathrooms, peeping through the keyholes, infra red scope camera through the keyhole, coming into my room as I slept, going into my room when I am not there to touch himself. He has video footage of me naked, bathing. He is still in the church, preaches, hangs out amonst children, has a apartment next to the pools at a holiday apartment. My half brother and sister do not talk to me, and my mum hardly sees me (and we cannot have a open conversation at all).
@@merhona3472 I think all families get torn apart when sex abuse comes into the equation, especially if it's a minor as you were, it always goes down to who believes who, one child's word against an adult, and court cases are he says she says, no matter what your family says, you did nothing wrong, he was the one who betrayed trust, who violated your privacy and in the most horrific way, trust me you are better off with little or no contact with a family like that, if you stick around they try to destroy you, with abuse that leads to drink and drug addictions, then they pontificate you're not a reliable witness, etc seen it time and time again. You are better off to keep contact to a minimum and keep your life private from them, it's harsh but you had the courage to speak out and that says a lot about your character, don't every forget that, you're very brave. You did nothing wrong.
What was done to this woman goes on everyday in some part of the world where being born a girl is seen as a burden. Rape Culture was/has been an overlooked and accepted practice by Military Institutions and Prisons. They combined have help make such acts acceptable, ignored and covered up. How else would the “Elite” get sons of peasants to go off to war for them if females & boys where not (offered up) sexually as payment/booty… for their service?
So it’s not just the religious Patriarchs who train and groom males to behave this way and be ok with it.
@merhona3472
Go and talk to official. See the family court. Not the police.
A church is not a law enforcement agency.
Believing that will be a weakness of the mind. What you describe is unacceptable. And there is help against violence against woman and predator. If you are a child most country will put restriction on that horrific man to protect you and everywhere child and woman.
This is absolutely horrific
Wait, what? Rape was not defined in the French criminal code until 1978?!!! How is that possible? How did they prosecute rape before then if it wasn't defined? I can't wrap my head around that.
France's reputation of romanticism hides a very dark and ugly culture of misogyny and violence against children.
The 'marry your rapist' was around in the 1970s and beyond...it was a way to escape conviction..look it up its unbelievable.
Furthermore, NO ONE tried to stop the continuation of the abuse.
I can’t help thinking of the other women being victimized via the ‘against her will’ fetish site. How many will never know?
There may be similar "against his will" fetish site for women.. How many will never know?
I'm crying. This is so heart breaking. I admire her strength.
Shock waves? Really? France and Germany, the only two countries where I've been harassed in day light on the street and stalked. In one case, in Paris, a police car with officers were outside by the car saw, everything, I went to them to ask for help and they said "What do you want us to do, just ignore him." Ignore a dude who was following me. Got it.
What you are saying doesn’t surprise me.
Are wives still considered "property" of their husband's in France? Have your Property Laws been changed to reflect reality a wife is independent person from her husband?
In fact, Gisèle divorced her husband to protect the "family" wealth when he became bankrupt, then remarried him later. So I guess the woman is not considered property.
it is extremely important that girls realise the importance of education and financial independence.
No.
these things do not only happen in france, what are you on about?
It's not the written law but it still exist in the cultural masculine psyche.
The Mayor is APPALLING!!!
Makes me wonder if the mayor is involved.
really liking the important information and awareness that comes from this interview with these different professional experts contributing their knowledge to make people aware of these atrocities , thank you.
My deepest condolences
And gratitude for showing us p for this woman. It’s a violent crime and I hope she gets justice
Thank you for having this discussion publicly. It clarifies the essence of violence against women and how widespread it is around the world, not just in France.
She is a great woman. As a victim of disgusting crimes often committed against women by men. The unbelievable strength she has is incredible! She is so loved by us all ♥️
But she stayed with a husband who used sex workers and had mistresses. What self respecting woman does that ?
@@margaretupama2352 you are a vile and pathetic person
@@margaretupama2352abused women.
@@margaretupama2352 Internalized sexism: Women can unconsciously absorb beliefs about their rightful place in society, which can lead to them judging other women in a way that can increase their power and standing among men.
The mayor words as well as the lawyers' ones are shocking
I can understand the lawyer who does his job of defending the client, but the mayor?? Disgusting
With that man as a Father I will rather to be horfane.He is the worst person in the entire WORLD.I will change my name, my address, everything. Shame on him.
No matter how much you protest, you are responsible for all of your actions. Victim blaming, victim shaming, excusing the behavior because of addiction are all pathetic excuses to use. There is NO EXCUSE. EVER.
That mayor saying well.. no one died? She did die.. all her life was a lie, her life died. What a shameful thing to say. It's disgusting that she was victimized by so many and he has the audacity to say such stupid comments. He's not a leader of any empathy but part of the problem.
Thank you for covering this case and giving a voice to this woman’s pain.
Absurdly, criminally evil.
Not even close to consensual.
Who knew? At least 70 men and not one of them had the decency to inform the police
It’s enlightening watching a news segment that’s thoughtful and critical discuss important global /societal issues.
Parents, raise your children to respect other people. This mentality starts from a young age and is nudged on by the subtle and sometimes not so subtle message of disrespecting women. In movies, often women are used as a supporting character and are talked over by men. Teach children about dignity and respect across all genders.
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I remember the first time my son expressed interest in a girl, my husband encouraged him to ask her out, but reminded him that he must always treat her with respect! I married a good one!
And this man INSISTS HE “Loves her”
Sick! Evil! 😢
some men really have a weird idea of what love is😔
@liv0003 They don't know what love is. They think love is possession, domination, the right to abuse the objectified person, and all who are around him, even the entire world, as Dominique Pericon has done by brutalising us all with what he has done.
Why are the cameras not filming or following the men?
Violence against women should also be tried as a hate crime! We stand with you Giselle ❤ and watching the world is watching.
Now that those men have been found guilty, their faces need to be shown.
If the victim waives anonymity, then the defendants should not have the option to choose it, especially after the guilty verdict.
Her statement bought me to tears. She is so strong and courageous. Face those men... its scares me to think that those vile men have wives and children...going about their lives like nothing has happened. They are rapists and should all be charged!!
Horrible. What a horrible experience for Gisèle Pericot.
And all these 80 men went home after their raping, some of them single, but probably most of them to their own wives, relationships, girl-friends. They are victims, too! They were put at risk of getting a STD plus living now with the certainty that their loved one is a misogynist sex-offender that their normal, bourgois life was only ONE side of them, that secretly they were looking in some chatroom for abuse-victims. For each of these man one has to investigate and prosecute whether they did not offended more women.
One more reason for which I will NEVER get married... Thanks but no thanks!
Get a grip.
Happy single child free lady here ☝️😎💪
Never married.
Raised my children alone.
Everything i ever lost was lost to a man.
I'm free, happy and financially independant.
How did women let things get this bad. Raise your children to understand that we create life.. we do it all.
This isn’t something that happens on a regular basis.
Not all men do this sort of thing
@@catherinewoolf504 I'll tell you something that happens everywhere all the time... Women and girls are the primary victims of lethal violence AT HOME in every part of the world, accounting for 6 out of 10 unalivings committed by intimate partners or other family members. Every 11 min a woman or a girl is unalived in her own home by a partner or a family member (!!!!) according to data published by the UNODC
I survived my family of origin, I won't take the chance to end up a number in this UN statistic!
And I couldn't find a global statistic about other forms of violence towards women and girls, the violence that doesn't end up with unalivings, SA, grape, beatings, verbal violence, emotional violence, abuse, etc
She is a true survivor and great example of being courageous. Its going forward in spite of personal grief and challenge. In spite of fear.
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Rape is a crime of violence period, it's not debatable!
Gisele, as a woman across the world from you, I just want applaud you for your bravery and give you a huge HUG!
They absolutely should not be given any right to privacy when you are talking about sex crimes
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One cannot believe that these men have their identity protected! This poor women had no privacy when she was raped and her pictures plastered on the internet! Evil, I say EVIL!
Shame on those who treat her as part of this evil scheme of her evil husband!! Everyone that says she must have given consent wake up, you are part of this perpetuation of this crime!!
Sending love and prayers to Gisele Pelicot!! We stand with you! Greetings from New Zealand!❤❤❤
And, how many of those men turned around and made videos of their own after drugging others (men and women)?
There's at least one directly related to Dominique Pelicot. You can do a search for details.
There is an unrelated case in Korea.
There have been many cases like this that don't make international news. Those don't include the ones that meet the legal definition for trafficking either.
@@c.g.bspendersashtray3037 Thank you. I will search it out. It's extremely sad. Humans being treated like trash.
Jean Pierre Marechal is a buddy of Dominique Pelicot. Mr. Marechal invited Mr. Pelicot over to his house to drug his own wife and r@ped her many times. Weirdly, his wife has not divorced him. Mr. Marechal has testified in Court and is identified in the press now. I am sure there are many others because this is just too easy. I think in the end, we will find out half the women in the area were subjected to this nightmare.
@@MayThereBeWorldPeace P Diddy is in the news and is sitting in jail today. Apparently, he was drugging women too so they could "party" for days. It is in every news source.
@@c.g.bspendersashtray3037 think there's a case going on in Adelaide in Australia.. 😢
Amazing how these men are keen to apologise once they're scared of going to prison. But prior to that, they're just fine about what they did. 🤢
Exactly
Thank you France 24 and to Gisèle Pélicot and the brave and wise women that are helping enlighten and enliven we men towards standing up for women. The abuses must end! We all suffer for them.
good, I am glad some men don't think this is acceptable behaviour
@@beaulieuc8910 Well over 99% of men don't think this is acceptable behaviour.