The dumbest of all dumb things is that KK actually made the decision to make a sequel trilogy without a story. Her plan to just make it up after each movie was not just dumb, it was genuinely baffling. How she kept her job after that mess is beyond me.
But that’s not really what happened. There was clearly an outline of where to go. The original script for episode 9 is more in line with following up the last Jedi. They just changed direction midstream due to the backlash
I understand they wanted to go somewhere else but putting the 3 in the movies was a nobrainer. They had to share some time together. Plus the whole sequel was an absolute disaster, at least the fans would have gotten that moment.
Part of it was KK, Lucas deal. Disney-KK had to pay license, trademark fees. $$$. 📂 Disney & ILM wanted to swing away from OT characters, ships, planets as soon as possible.
What they did to Boyega was just criminal... So was not having Luke and Han share a SINGLE scene. For me the utter look of real disgust on Isaac's face when he's told "say the line or you don't get paid" perfectly sums up the sequels.
I’ve seen screen shots of the Game of Thrones actors doing table reads for the final season. They look confused and dismayed. I imagine the actors for RoS looked much the same.
Not having Han, Luke, and Leia in a single scene together was ridiculous. Yoiu haved the most iconic trio ofcharacters in cinerma history and not even oner scene. I feel Boyega was used too. They wanted to show the "New and Diverse Star Wars" in the magazines and trailers. I feel the whole fiasco about him being a black stormtrooper was staged. They knew that a lot of fans were under the impression that all stormtroopers are clones so when a black man is the VERY FIRST shot of the first trailer was his in a stormtrooper uniform (With ZERO dialogue or explanation) there would be questions and some outrage. Maybe 1% of the fans were racist but the rest just didn't understand why there was a stormtrooper that didn't look like Boba Fett. They made no attempt to exploit it and just watched the media swell as people called fans racist and others saying doesn't matter the race, he should look like BF. They loved the free exposure. They set SW fans up to be called racist and "manbabies."
Not only did Luke and Han not share a scene, Luke and Han and Leia don't share a scene. Freaking Lando doesn't get to say goodbye to his old pal. The sequels suck.
I can forgive them for that at least. There's no way Harrison Ford was coming back without them killing off Han, and having Luke show up early would diminish the impact of the final scene. You gotta remember, these movies are supposed to be about the new generation, not the OT trio. Boyega did get robbed though. Imagine this: instead of the stupid Canto side mission, Rose is deadset on avenging her sister. Finn talks her down and Leia sees that Finn has the potential to be a Jedi. Then instead of spending the movie in a coma, she teaches Finn the ways of the Force in her own way, while Luke trains Rey in his own way. The Last Jedi ends with Luke still dead, but both Rey and Finn are ready to lead the charge as Jedi in Episode 9.
It's a good thing WhatCulture decided to list ten of the dumbest things in the Sequel Trilogy. If they had decided to list all of the dumbest things in the Sequel Trilogy, it would be a six part video with two hour run times each.
Not having Luke & R2, Han, Leia, and Chewy in a scene together is definitely number 1 for me. Hell, I'd have settled for just Luke, Han, and Leia. In over seven hours of film across three movies, they never share the screen together. It's baffling. And what they did to Mark Hamill's character is just criminal. It's as if whoever wrote Luke's parts had never seen any Star Wars media and had no idea who he was. I can see him going into exile after what happens with Kylo. But once Rey finds him and asks for his help, he would be back in the fight immediately. Mark Hamill has talked about this so much. It's just awful.
@@zshah3107 Mara Jade actually was considered in the earliest developments for Ep 7. But then Disney-Lucasfilm decided to excise anything good from the movie.
All valid points. I’d also add: building THOUSANDS of star destroyers in a dark corner of the galaxy, fully manned and trained. Like…what? No liberty? No breaks? No one noticing the planets full of materials needed to make so many ships and man them in such a short time? Just sloppy and lazy…
TFA 10: Finn is instantly given a back seat 9: Rey knows how to fix the Millennium Falcon better than Han Solo 8: Lightspeed skipping 7: Rey beats Kylo Ren in battle. Just hearing stories about the Force is enough to use it, apparently TLJ 6: Bombers in space 5: Leia flying back to the Republic ship 4:The Holdo manoeuvre 3: Luke not being there in person on Crait TROS 2: Force Dyad and all the bullplop that came with it 1: Palpatine (somehow) returns Bonus Dumb 0: "I'm Rey, Rey Skywalker."
In a Star Wars encyclopedia on the ships, it was explained that the bombers were able to drop their load in space because the bombs were supposedly magentized and I guess were attracted to the surface of the Dreadnaught.
@@jaykoops9502 That still sounds like a try, to explanate that crap. I mean, the Rebels HAD Bombers. B Wings and Y Wings. And both were a lot faster, then those things and equipped with better weapons.
I dont see prob. with Rey fixing Falcon, hey she was taking apart and tinkering with ship parts whole life prob almost every day and Han was never technician specialist - he was more like long time "truck driver" (pilot in SW univ.) who knows his rig and can fix minor things or coax few bugs to make things go, but most real techs/ship repairmen would know much more about that stuff than him. And force dyad could be pretty interresting concept IF they done it well(not shirtless Kylo), SW universe is huge you cant be opposed to every new thing introduced with force, plus there is plenty unique force powers in old legends, in other games - KOTOR, SWTOR - you have some very unique and COOL powers there (Battle meditation,Force bonds and more) that werent mentioned in movies at all, but i would love to see them in future. ...Agree with rest.
Enough talking shit about completely disappointed fans calling us racist...that's not racism you piece of shot all you and people like you do with that trashy shit is take away from actual racism. Racism is not and will not be tolerated against any race, from ANY RACE its called being an adult. Perhaps one of the biggest and more important facts of being an adult is you have to be able to deal with reality and the real world.
The second Death Star appearing almost entirely intact after being completely atomized in Return of the Jedi was one of the worst ret-cons I've ever seen.
It was absurd... even if large pieces survived the explosion (which they clearly didn't), those pieces would then be burned up during reentry. And even if they SOMEHOW survived reentry... they would shatter even more on impact with the surface. The size of intact wreckage shown in the movie would have caused an impact crater and massive surface devastation. And, of course, it would not be intact. It's like the writers forgot that this thing was in space, and not some castle standing on a cliff.
I always wondered why Palpatine would have his essence put into a knarled, and disfigured clone missing fingers instead of a younger more vigorous one.
There's precedent. Whether it was intentional or not, Episode 9 took ideas from the 1991 comic Dark Empire where Palpatine's spirit returned in a clone body. Clones can't handle the Force very well, and Palp's dark side energy would cause his cloned bodies to age rapidly. The transfer process was...unpleasant so he'd wait until the last possible moment to transfer. Now I am not defending the choice to put Palpatine in the movie at all, it's just there's a lot of little things that fans like stick on: things that have long since been explained away in the EU.
@@matthewpatrick7263 Yeah? Wanna know who else didn't acknowledge Legends but still borrowed ideas from it? George Lucas. Acquaint yourself with the real-life behind the scenes story about Coruscant, and then tell me if he's a hypocrite too.
Very pro Rian Johnson take here. How about 1: the casino scene 2: the overt reference to Jurassic Park 3: the holdo maneuver (literally no one ever thought of that before in the history of space flight? How about it accidentally happening in the history of space flight? 4: Mary Poppins Leia 5: the subtle as a brick “war profiteering is bad” 6: [some windows were crashed at a casino] “that taught the war profiteers!” 7: leaving the guy you met 10 minutes ago in the room as the Rebellion reveals its secret plan 8: the Rose/Fin/Rey love triangle 9: killing admiral Akbar as disrespectfully as possible 10: Luke dying of mental exhaustion
The difficulty when making a list like this is that you cannot possibly include everything. The channel included some, you have others. The trilogy was hot garbage from start to finish, but the biggest failure was in not having a coherent plan before starting and sticking to it.
11 - There were pointed to the only guy in the universe that could crack some kind of code, in the casino. It just so happens that a random guy starving in a cell can do just the same thing.
I totally agree. The folks at Whatculture are obviously Rian defenders. He and Kathleen Kennedy are the ones who ruined the franchise with their liberal agenda.
The greatest Star Wars villain of all time is Kathlyn Kennedy for disregarding Lucas' idea for the sequel trilogy after telling him they would absolutely, 100% use his idea when they were negotiating to buy Lucasart.
The Ahsoka series is a lot closer to what the sequels should have been, focusing on the Imperial Remnant and Grand Admiral Thrawn and partly based on Timothy Zahn's well-liked books. Much better than inventing a totally new story involving the First Order which wasn't well thought through at all. I think Disney just got waaay too excited and waaaay too ahead of themselves. They are capable of making enjoyable Star Wars stuff: Rogue One, Mando, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka are all quite good, certainly much better than the sequel trilogy. Solo is also pretty good once you get over Harrison Ford not being in it.
Hux turning into solely comedic relief in TLJ was just a weird shift from TFA where (in my opinion) was played very well as an overly serious pawn to the first order who detested Kylo Ren. Also I didn’t realize people were upset that Chewy DIDN’T die? If Chewy had died in such a moment that would’ve offered little closure would’ve really bothered me.
I think the issue was that his "death" was a fake out, and a poorly executed one. But of course if they had killed him there, they'd probably still be upset for the reason you described. Either way nothing would have topped his original death where it took dropping a moon on him to kill him.
It would make for BOLD choice and it would give MC real depth and possibly more interresting and maybe darker character arc. I think ppl miss that possibility more, rather just wanting Chewie to die. 😅@@Azure_Fire
Honestly I wish she wouldve died there so Kylo would be more dark and conflicted after killing both parents. And it wouldve made sense with her real life passing
I don’t think undoing Rey as a nobody was bad - the WHOLE PLOT of Rey’s parentage was stupid! It’s like why make her parentage a thing if she’s not tied to the original! It was a hook that made us invested in a plot then Rian effectively DROPS us! You don’t do that in stories!
If I wanted to undo what TLJ said, I'd just have claimed Kilo Ren was lying. I'd also point out that the Force didn't used to make people omniscient. Quigon Gin (forgive my spelling) didn't look at Anakin and know his parentage. He asked.
@@collinturner5307 It's a close call, but I think "They fly now?!" can be written off as just a poor attempt at writing punchy banter, but Palpatine is just BAD handwaving nonsense for a critical plot line that is irredeemable.
So at first I thought this too, but if you think about it how was Poe supposed to know how he returned? The line is really not as stupid as people make it out to be. Also Palpatine returned multiple times in the EU and everyone praises the EU yet this is stupid? Now if Leia or Luke said something like that I’d find it questionable because I’d think they’d have an idea of how, but not Poe or someone that wasn’t knowledgeable of the force. Overall I enjoy the sequels, but I admit there is stuff that should have been better and stuff they seemed to just change total direction on. The shows are really leading up to showing how Palpatine came back I feel and let’s face it all 3 trilogies have done this and it’s been left to other books, comics, shows ir movies to explain.
Aside from Palpatine my favorite villain is Darth Maul. Hes martial arts fighting style is excellent, he can use the force and a double bladed saber. But most of all he looks intimidating and the fact that he hardly speaks and almost never blinks adds to his menacing presence
Alright, gotta say, killing off Chewbacca when all the other older characters woud make sense, but, if you had kept them (which, obviously, they didn't), Chewie could have been a character that shone even more then he did in the og trilogy, instead of being... the side Wookie.
I agree with video. Here are my additions. -flying space Leia -the cringe "whooo" the little slave kid does as Finn and Rose escape -blue milk sceen -holdo maneuver -flying space Leia -"permission to hop in an xwing and blow something up" "permission granted" -cringe "go team" moment and they utter "for Chewie" 🤦♀️ -Force ghost Luke and Leia smiling at the end -killing Han with no reunion with Luke - Reylo romance -****ing flying space Leia I'll stop. Its all unfortunate.
I will say the Holdo maneuver looked really cool when I saw it in theaters. It was only later when we thought about it that we were like, “wait, nooooo.”
Holdo's kamikaze attack was fine, and no it doesn't break any law. The often cited "hyperspace lanes" argument against it is simply irrelevant - The Raddus never enters hyperspace, it rams into the Supremacy, which is right in front of it, while it is accelerating. It doesn't matter what the trajectory of The Raddus beyond the Supremacy was as it was never intended to travel further than that - it was a kamikaze! The very definition of one.
I had to stop watching the video after that section. There was nothing good about this character. She was only written in to give KK something to get excited about.
The trio of Dooku, Ventress, and Grievous is probably my fav villains. All pretty interesting backstories and reasons for becoming villains compared to Palpatine who is just ‘evil because evil’ and doesn’t have anything really interesting in his life story other than being a power hungry sociopath
But which villain inspires the greatest fear? And Vader has to be the most iconic villain of all time. Even girls who have avoided Star Wars their whole lives know who he is. I don’t know of any other movie villain that is a household name. Not even Voldemort. I’m not a movie buff though so maybe you can think of another Vader-comparable villain. But you are correct about the back stories of the ones you named.
@@dronesclubhighjinksThe most interesting thing about Darth Vader is that he originally wanted to be good, bringing peace to the Galaxy, And f*cked up, becoming a galactic Reinhard Heydrich.
4:02 the worst part about the side characters isn’t that they’re side characters, they’re just poorly utilized by the movies. Empire Strikes Back had a several side characters who had little screen time, and yet were very compelling. Lando, Boba Fett, Bosk, IG-88, the Norwegian Red Cross, the guy running with the ice cream maker on Bespin, Lobot, etc. they were just well-executed and relatively well-written characters.
I remember getting the first of this trio of mess on blu-ray and had my parents over to watch it with me. We're all huge Star Wars fans and were excited to see this new stuff. Well, the movie ended and we were all stunned into silence and my dad turns to me and quietly asks "What was this even about?"
Hux was one of the worst things in the sequel trilogy. I was so confused with him in TROS. The first two movies he wanted the resistance destroyed and was so committed to do that. In TROS, he turned out to be a spy and helped Finn and Poe escape. "I don't care if you win, I need Kylo Ren to lose."🤦♂
That motivation is some thing an ex-girlfriend might think of. I’m a woman and I find it very odd that a man would have this motivation. But this just is one of the massive list of idiotic things in these sequel movies. 😄
My 3 favs are: Poe's mysterious and magical disapearance from the tie fighter crash scene in TFA leaving Finn behind for dead in the middle of a desert without a single footprint. (JJ must have thought we didn't notice...) The magical return of a lightsaber lost to the core of a giant gas planet. (JJ must have thought we didn't remember...) The magical return of Palpatine (JJ must have thought that we are idiots...)
Nah, there are plenty of things wrong with the sequels but Rose isn't one of them. Not even close to insufferable. The only truly insufferable character in the entire Star Wars franchise is old mate Jar Jar.
@@namikstudiosHow about when she betrayed them all by stopping Finn from saving them in his suicide run? She didn't know Luke was going to project himself and save the day. If he hadn't, then they all would've died because she didn't realize that sometimes good people have to sacrifice their lives in war.
@@namikstudios Stop the cap mate, there is a lot wrong with her. Calling it "racist" to not like it is outright bs at best. That word used to mean something... now no one cares.
@@matthewpatrick7263 Rose preventing Finn from pointlessly sacrificing himself is a positive not a negative. Considering how his skimmer was rapidly disintegrating as he foolishly drove it through the path of the beam, crashing into it wouldn't have achieved anything other than his own death. If anything this highlights a problem with Finn's actions, not Rose's. Besides, trying to save a hero of the Resistance (a main character) can hardly be seen as a betrayal. Rose's actions were selfless and very brave.
@@ricardokojin7 a great deal of the abuse directed at Kelly Marie Tran, the actress who played Rose, was most certainly racist in nature. I accept that some may simply dislike parts of the plot involving her, that's fine, but if that's really your issue then Rose should be the very least of your qualms with The Last Jedi, as she is a relatively small part of that wider plot.
I found neither Ren or Hux even vaguely credible. It takes a great deal of effort for me not to whistle the Laurel and Hardy theme tune when they appear together.
There are only 3 things wrong with the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy. 1) The Force Awakens 2) The Last Jedi 3) The Rise of Skywalker That's all that's wrong. I don't know how they got a list of 10 things.
@@orbaitv5991I think the prequels had a good overarching story. Unfortunately, it was poorly executed. I view them as a bad high school play about what really happened.
We need a show set between VI and VII that explains how Luke fell and how Maz Kanat found the lightsaber, or maybe two shows if they can't be linked. Maybe another one about how Palpatine returned.
Fav villain will always be the cunning and sinister Emperor Palpatine. The man was quiet and unassuming when he needed to be, but savage and maniacal in the Dark Side, to the point that even Vader was shocked by his brutality in combat.
Rey being a Palpatine could've worked if if the line "Somehow Palpatine has returned" didnt exist. We just spent two movies with new villians and no signs of Palpatine to have him forced into the last movie and have it announced in a random fortnite event that no one was expecting to have key info about the last movie. Palpatine had to be in from the start. Everytime we are talking Rey's family we should be seeing something that gives a hint. They had enough there to make everything work but decided only make connections after the fact.
They could've also thought about generational timelines: Rey was roughly the same age as Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren's parents were babies when Palpatine was already "grandfather age." Rey was Palpatine's granddaughter. She should've been at least his great-granddaughter if not even deeper.
If they were going to bring Palps back it should have been as a force ghost. He could still do everything he does in Rise as a ghost and it wouldn't have left us all wondering how he survived falling down the core of the Second Death Star and then somehow survived again when it exploded minutes later. He didn't need to come back alive for it to work.
I really loved when, after Han's death, Leia and Chewie walk past each other like strangers and Leia comforts a girl she barely knew. Very believable character motivations.
Not so much the killing him off, but the whole 'bait and switch' thing that shows in the old days used all the time for any cliffhanger. We saw him get into THAT SHIP, which then blew up. He's dead!
There's *far* too much stupidity in the sequel trilogy for me to have been able to condense a list down to 10 items, so good on you for managing that much, WhatCulture.
I will argue axing off snoke was the right choice. The problem was just replacing him with palpetine the next movie instead of sticking with Kylo being the lead villain in the next film.
I would have made Snoke a former apprentice of Plageius who was ousted by Palpatine. Either way Kylo *needed* to be the villain of episode IX for it to have had any chance of being good.
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I think they had the best character introduction ever….. then 2 seconds later absolutely destroyed it. When kylo was first introduced he froze the laser blasts. A feet never seen in a Star Wars movie. It was undeniably badass! Super intimidating and a fantastic way to show how powerful he was. Then the replacement Han Solo starts making fun of him, To his face! It didn’t show how brave and funny that guy was, it just showed that the main bad guy was a joke.
I hated, hated, hated, HATED the concept of Snoke. I'm glad Rian Johnson killed him off because it would've put up a good power struggle between Kylo Ren and Gen. Hux in the third movie. In the end, Hux is just an ancillary character.
It's actually impressive how they took one of the most beloved IPs and dropped the worlds biggest shit on it while staring us directly in the eyes... They didnt even blink...
What a wasted opportunity these movies are. I remember when I saw the prequel trilogy. I was excited, some things didn't make sense or Jar Jar Binks was annoying .. but these movies are supreme stupid's. What a shame.
General Hux revealing "I'm the spy" deserved a place on this list. For me, those three words tie with "They fly now" as the three dumbest words spoken in a Star Wars movie.
How is it dumb?! His reason for going against Kylo are perfectly valid and it is something foreshadowed in TLJ. Also "they fly now" was just a joke line. It isn't meant to be taken serious.
@@orbaitv5991Hux BEING the spy is not dumb, I agree. Hux ANNOUNCING it to the Resistance in the way that he did is the dumb part, particularly "the spy"; how does Hux know which spy they might be thinking of? There could be multiple spies! The line is a shorthand to quickly get us to the realization that Hux is betraying the First Order, but it doesn't feel earned to me.
It was a dumb move to include scenes of Lando and Chewie on the Falcon in the previews. Anyone who watched the trailer would know Chewie wasn’t really killed. That took away any kind of emotional impact that scene could have had.
So we’re not gonna talk about how Luke Skywalker’s Legacy was completely tarnished, seriously alien, titty milk? Or Rey not-Skywalker being automatically expertly able to handle a light saber and defeat a well-trained Sith master? Or bothering with animal cruelty side story that goes nowhere? Or all of a sudden, low fuel is a problem after never being a problem for 9 films? Or all of a sudden, ships can magically go through force fields?
Greatest Mistake was giving Star Wars to JJ Abrams. All other 7 star wars movie were stories in itself. That meant you could view them on themselves. JJ Abrams loves his mystery boxes so much. But they don't fit Star Wars Movies.
JJ & KK never clearly explain or use the dreaded "Knights" of Ren either. Everyone was waiting for Luke to cut thru them or for them to reek havoc. Nope!
There's nothing wrong with Holdo's kamikaze. ...and why does everyone call it a "maneuver" when what she did is the textbook definition of a kamikaze attack? It's not like there isn't a specific name for this "maneuver".
I'm taking a few liberties here but without a doubt in my favorite Star Wars character is most definitely tie-in between Director Orson Callan Krennic and Jango Fett.
Issue I had, no way Leia is going to hug Rey first, I dont care if they did know themselves in the force. The Force doesnt work that way, Leia and Chewie risked their lives during the original Star Wars movies, it would be like my grandfathers (Who both fought in WWII) how they felt about someone they didnt know and a mate in unit they served. They both fought and watched friends die. So, those that survived were normally like their brothers. They shared a bond, that many cant understand. Chewie and Leia were like family, solders, and people who watched friends die. No way is Rey going to be accepted into that group.
Making Rey a "nobody" is not brilliant, it's lazy. It's basically the writer screaming "I HAVE NO IDEAS" at the audience. Plus I never believed it was ever intended to be her true origins in the first place, I mean it was only the second movie in a trillogy. They're not going to reveal everything in the middle cause then there'd be no reason to come back for a 3rd movie. The dumb thing was not just making a Skywalker cause now there's absolutly reason why the Lightsaber held by Anakin and Luke before her would ever call out to her as there's nothing connecting her to it. Kylo also seemed to already be aware of who she was in the first film which would make sense if she was a Skywalker but they completly abandoned that concept to make them love interests in the sequel. As for waisted villains, honestly I was never going to care about random soldier guy or Shiney Stormtrooper anyway. In a world where the force exists it's very hard to make non-force sensitive characters interesting or compelling. The Fetts only became interesting because of the design as neither Jango nor Boba ever actually did anything other than stand there and look cool in their armor. So the only real waisted potential is Emperor Snoke who should have been revealed as Darth Pleaguis. You know the guy already set up in episode 3 to be able to cheat death. Bringing Palpatine back randomly just undoes the ending of the original trillogy and makes Snoke completly pointless.
Yeah, the they fly now quote was DEFINITELY cringe worthy. In the Expanded Edition of The Force Awakens novel or comic, it actually shows how Maz got Anakin/Luke’s lightsaber.
You guys left The Last Jedi completely untouched. Did you think the casino scene was brilliant? Did you think that Rose stopping Finn's sacrifice made sense? Would you have added the "Holdo Maneuver"? Would you have had Leia Mary Poppinsing herself through space? I really wish entertainment media would stop licking Rian Johnson's boots. I love Whatculture, however you guys can do better.
The dumbest of all dumb things is that KK actually made the decision to make a sequel trilogy without a story. Her plan to just make it up after each movie was not just dumb, it was genuinely baffling. How she kept her job after that mess is beyond me.
yeah. you'd think since she's been part of some of the most beloved trilogies...she'd know to plan one out.
This. Just this. This could've been the ENTIRE LIST.
But that’s not really what happened. There was clearly an outline of where to go. The original script for episode 9 is more in line with following up the last Jedi. They just changed direction midstream due to the backlash
@@Skute oh? You were there in the writing room? THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU FIX THIS SĤIT?!?
this point is mentioned way too rarely.
How about Rey being somehow a) a strong swimmer and b) an expert sailor despite growing up on a desert planet?
Not having the big three share a scene is unforgivable
I understand they wanted to go somewhere else but putting the 3 in the movies was a nobrainer. They had to share some time together. Plus the whole sequel was an absolute disaster, at least the fans would have gotten that moment.
Part of it was KK, Lucas deal. Disney-KK had to pay license, trademark fees. $$$. 📂 Disney & ILM wanted to swing away from OT characters, ships, planets as soon as possible.
Agreed
Actually it was dumb and pointless for any of them to be in these movies.
@@usernamunavailiable You have a point, especially after what they did with them.
What they did to Boyega was just criminal... So was not having Luke and Han share a SINGLE scene.
For me the utter look of real disgust on Isaac's face when he's told "say the line or you don't get paid" perfectly sums up the sequels.
I’ve seen screen shots of the Game of Thrones actors doing table reads for the final season. They look confused and dismayed. I imagine the actors for RoS looked much the same.
Not having Han, Luke, and Leia in a single scene together was ridiculous. Yoiu haved the most iconic trio ofcharacters in cinerma history and not even oner scene.
I feel Boyega was used too. They wanted to show the "New and Diverse Star Wars" in the magazines and trailers. I feel the whole fiasco about him being a black stormtrooper was staged. They knew that a lot of fans were under the impression that all stormtroopers are clones so when a black man is the VERY FIRST shot of the first trailer was his in a stormtrooper uniform (With ZERO dialogue or explanation) there would be questions and some outrage. Maybe 1% of the fans were racist but the rest just didn't understand why there was a stormtrooper that didn't look like Boba Fett. They made no attempt to exploit it and just watched the media swell as people called fans racist and others saying doesn't matter the race, he should look like BF. They loved the free exposure. They set SW fans up to be called racist and "manbabies."
Not only did Luke and Han not share a scene, Luke and Han and Leia don't share a scene. Freaking Lando doesn't get to say goodbye to his old pal. The sequels suck.
@@jayl878re: Luke, Han and Leia...THANK YOU.
I can forgive them for that at least. There's no way Harrison Ford was coming back without them killing off Han, and having Luke show up early would diminish the impact of the final scene. You gotta remember, these movies are supposed to be about the new generation, not the OT trio.
Boyega did get robbed though. Imagine this: instead of the stupid Canto side mission, Rose is deadset on avenging her sister. Finn talks her down and Leia sees that Finn has the potential to be a Jedi. Then instead of spending the movie in a coma, she teaches Finn the ways of the Force in her own way, while Luke trains Rey in his own way. The Last Jedi ends with Luke still dead, but both Rey and Finn are ready to lead the charge as Jedi in Episode 9.
It's a good thing WhatCulture decided to list ten of the dumbest things in the Sequel Trilogy. If they had decided to list all of the dumbest things in the Sequel Trilogy, it would be a six part video with two hour run times each.
Absolutely 💯 !!! Mauler (Longman) and The Critical Drinker have made hours of epic stupidity found in the Sequel Trilogy.
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Not having Luke & R2, Han, Leia, and Chewy in a scene together is definitely number 1 for me. Hell, I'd have settled for just Luke, Han, and Leia. In over seven hours of film across three movies, they never share the screen together. It's baffling.
And what they did to Mark Hamill's character is just criminal. It's as if whoever wrote Luke's parts had never seen any Star Wars media and had no idea who he was. I can see him going into exile after what happens with Kylo. But once Rey finds him and asks for his help, he would be back in the fight immediately. Mark Hamill has talked about this so much. It's just awful.
What about Lando Calrissian & also Mara Jade?!
@@zshah3107 Mara Jade actually was considered in the earliest developments for Ep 7. But then Disney-Lucasfilm decided to excise anything good from the movie.
All valid points.
I’d also add: building THOUSANDS of star destroyers in a dark corner of the galaxy, fully manned and trained. Like…what? No liberty? No breaks? No one noticing the planets full of materials needed to make so many ships and man them in such a short time? Just sloppy and lazy…
TFA
10: Finn is instantly given a back seat
9: Rey knows how to fix the Millennium Falcon better than Han Solo
8: Lightspeed skipping
7: Rey beats Kylo Ren in battle. Just hearing stories about the Force is enough to use it, apparently
TLJ
6: Bombers in space
5: Leia flying back to the Republic ship
4:The Holdo manoeuvre
3: Luke not being there in person on Crait
TROS
2: Force Dyad and all the bullplop that came with it
1: Palpatine (somehow) returns
Bonus Dumb
0: "I'm Rey, Rey Skywalker."
In a Star Wars encyclopedia on the ships, it was explained that the bombers were able to drop their load in space because the bombs were supposedly magentized and I guess were attracted to the surface of the Dreadnaught.
@@jaykoops9502 That still sounds like a try, to explanate that crap. I mean, the Rebels HAD Bombers. B Wings and Y Wings. And both were a lot faster, then those things and equipped with better weapons.
Number #2 Mary Poppins moment and Number #1 - Luke not knowing about Han's death when in ESB, Luke could feel his friend being hurt.
I dont see prob. with Rey fixing Falcon, hey she was taking apart and tinkering with ship parts whole life prob almost every day and Han was never technician specialist - he was more like long time "truck driver" (pilot in SW univ.) who knows his rig and can fix minor things or coax few bugs to make things go, but most real techs/ship repairmen would know much more about that stuff than him.
And force dyad could be pretty interresting concept IF they done it well(not shirtless Kylo), SW universe is huge you cant be opposed to every new thing introduced with force, plus there is plenty unique force powers in old legends, in other games - KOTOR, SWTOR - you have some very unique and COOL powers there (Battle meditation,Force bonds and more) that werent mentioned in movies at all, but i would love to see them in future. ...Agree with rest.
Enough talking shit about completely disappointed fans calling us racist...that's not racism you piece of shot all you and people like you do with that trashy shit is take away from actual racism. Racism is not and will not be tolerated against any race, from ANY RACE its called being an adult. Perhaps one of the biggest and more important facts of being an adult is you have to be able to deal with reality and the real world.
The second Death Star appearing almost entirely intact after being completely atomized in Return of the Jedi was one of the worst ret-cons I've ever seen.
It was absurd... even if large pieces survived the explosion (which they clearly didn't), those pieces would then be burned up during reentry. And even if they SOMEHOW survived reentry... they would shatter even more on impact with the surface.
The size of intact wreckage shown in the movie would have caused an impact crater and massive surface devastation. And, of course, it would not be intact.
It's like the writers forgot that this thing was in space, and not some castle standing on a cliff.
@@SwiftbowThose same writers don't know gravity doesn't work in space.
1. Disney being in charge of making the sequels
I always wondered why Palpatine would have his essence put into a knarled, and disfigured clone missing fingers instead of a younger more vigorous one.
There's precedent. Whether it was intentional or not, Episode 9 took ideas from the 1991 comic Dark Empire where Palpatine's spirit returned in a clone body. Clones can't handle the Force very well, and Palp's dark side energy would cause his cloned bodies to age rapidly. The transfer process was...unpleasant so he'd wait until the last possible moment to transfer.
Now I am not defending the choice to put Palpatine in the movie at all, it's just there's a lot of little things that fans like stick on: things that have long since been explained away in the EU.
@@Azure_FireBut KK claimed that the EU didn't exist.
@@matthewpatrick7263 So? Lore is lore.
@@Azure_FireMy point is their hypocrisy. They claimed none of it is lore, and then use small bits and pieces of it.
@@matthewpatrick7263 Yeah? Wanna know who else didn't acknowledge Legends but still borrowed ideas from it? George Lucas. Acquaint yourself with the real-life behind the scenes story about Coruscant, and then tell me if he's a hypocrite too.
Not having Han, Luke, Leia and Chewie in a scene together is the dumbest thing not done in the sequel trilogy.
The writers really owe these actors some apologies. They took a brunt of the punishment for their dumb decisions and direction.
Very pro Rian Johnson take here. How about 1: the casino scene 2: the overt reference to Jurassic Park 3: the holdo maneuver (literally no one ever thought of that before in the history of space flight? How about it accidentally happening in the history of space flight? 4: Mary Poppins Leia 5: the subtle as a brick “war profiteering is bad” 6: [some windows were crashed at a casino] “that taught the war profiteers!” 7: leaving the guy you met 10 minutes ago in the room as the Rebellion reveals its secret plan 8: the Rose/Fin/Rey love triangle 9: killing admiral Akbar as disrespectfully as possible 10: Luke dying of mental exhaustion
Agree. What did Leia die of? Force skyping her hideous son?
The difficulty when making a list like this is that you cannot possibly include everything. The channel included some, you have others. The trilogy was hot garbage from start to finish, but the biggest failure was in not having a coherent plan before starting and sticking to it.
11 - There were pointed to the only guy in the universe that could crack some kind of code, in the casino. It just so happens that a random guy starving in a cell can do just the same thing.
Top 10 dumb things in the Sequel Trilogy is literally impossible...as MOST scenes, individually, can be on the list
I totally agree. The folks at Whatculture are obviously Rian defenders. He and Kathleen Kennedy are the ones who ruined the franchise with their liberal agenda.
This list is “What Culture loves Rian Johnson and blames JJ Abrams for the problems in the trilogy”
Sure seems like it!
Good Lord, the whole trilogy was incredibly dumb.
You got that right
What are the 10 dumbest things in the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy...
YES.
The greatest Star Wars villain of all time is Kathlyn Kennedy for disregarding Lucas' idea for the sequel trilogy after telling him they would absolutely, 100% use his idea when they were negotiating to buy Lucasart.
So Sith lord in next SW movie will be Mickey with KK as his new apprentice? 😆🤪
That's a weird way of spelling "Troy Denning"
The Ahsoka series is a lot closer to what the sequels should have been, focusing on the Imperial Remnant and Grand Admiral Thrawn and partly based on Timothy Zahn's well-liked books. Much better than inventing a totally new story involving the First Order which wasn't well thought through at all. I think Disney just got waaay too excited and waaaay too ahead of themselves. They are capable of making enjoyable Star Wars stuff: Rogue One, Mando, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka are all quite good, certainly much better than the sequel trilogy. Solo is also pretty good once you get over Harrison Ford not being in it.
Hux turning into solely comedic relief in TLJ was just a weird shift from TFA where (in my opinion) was played very well as an overly serious pawn to the first order who detested Kylo Ren.
Also I didn’t realize people were upset that Chewy DIDN’T die? If Chewy had died in such a moment that would’ve offered little closure would’ve really bothered me.
I think the issue was that his "death" was a fake out, and a poorly executed one. But of course if they had killed him there, they'd probably still be upset for the reason you described. Either way nothing would have topped his original death where it took dropping a moon on him to kill him.
It would make for BOLD choice and it would give MC real depth and possibly more interresting and maybe darker character arc. I think ppl miss that possibility more, rather just wanting Chewie to die. 😅@@Azure_Fire
@@mar.s6516 Well let me put it this way. Do you think JJ has the talent to make the most out of a Chewie death?
@@mar.s6516Rey already got that with Leia which died because of Rey technically
I almost walked out of the theater when I saw Leia flying through space in The Last Jedi.
Same, but I paid IMAX price for that ticket, I don't waste IMAX money, no matter how much I hate what's onscreen.
That was so insufferably silly.
You wasted your money anyway.@@megatronjenkins2473
Honestly I wish she wouldve died there so Kylo would be more dark and conflicted after killing both parents. And it wouldve made sense with her real life passing
@@j-prins61 Yes, I agree.
Want to describe the dumbest things in the Sequel Trilogy? Show all three movies and just include the caption, "This".
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I don’t think undoing Rey as a nobody was bad - the WHOLE PLOT of Rey’s parentage was stupid! It’s like why make her parentage a thing if she’s not tied to the original! It was a hook that made us invested in a plot then Rian effectively DROPS us! You don’t do that in stories!
If I wanted to undo what TLJ said, I'd just have claimed Kilo Ren was lying. I'd also point out that the Force didn't used to make people omniscient. Quigon Gin (forgive my spelling) didn't look at Anakin and know his parentage. He asked.
Sauron had the ring, Voldamort had his horcruxes, but SOMEHOW Palpatine returned
"Somehow, Palpatine returned" is the stupidest sentence ever spoken in the history of cinema.
I don't know I think THEY FLY NOW? is still worse.
@@collinturner5307 It's a close call, but I think "They fly now?!" can be written off as just a poor attempt at writing punchy banter, but Palpatine is just BAD handwaving nonsense for a critical plot line that is irredeemable.
When I was in the Theater. Like 5 different people yelled "What?" When they heard that. And one person said f@#$ you
Worst line in the history of film
"Somehow Palpatine returned"
Dumbest line in film history
"They fly now!?"
They have always used backpacks U idiots
So at first I thought this too, but if you think about it how was Poe supposed to know how he returned? The line is really not as stupid as people make it out to be. Also Palpatine returned multiple times in the EU and everyone praises the EU yet this is stupid? Now if Leia or Luke said something like that I’d find it questionable because I’d think they’d have an idea of how, but not Poe or someone that wasn’t knowledgeable of the force. Overall I enjoy the sequels, but I admit there is stuff that should have been better and stuff they seemed to just change total direction on. The shows are really leading up to showing how Palpatine came back I feel and let’s face it all 3 trilogies have done this and it’s been left to other books, comics, shows ir movies to explain.
Aside from Palpatine my favorite villain is Darth Maul. Hes martial arts fighting style is excellent, he can use the force and a double bladed saber. But most of all he looks intimidating and the fact that he hardly speaks and almost never blinks adds to his menacing presence
Good points!
Yea same, I just think he looks cool AF 🤣
Alright, gotta say, killing off Chewbacca when all the other older characters woud make sense, but, if you had kept them (which, obviously, they didn't), Chewie could have been a character that shone even more then he did in the og trilogy, instead of being... the side Wookie.
I agree with video. Here are my additions.
-flying space Leia
-the cringe "whooo" the little slave kid does as Finn and Rose escape
-blue milk sceen
-holdo maneuver
-flying space Leia
-"permission to hop in an xwing and blow something up" "permission granted"
-cringe "go team" moment and they utter "for Chewie" 🤦♀️
-Force ghost Luke and Leia smiling at the end
-killing Han with no reunion with Luke
- Reylo romance
-****ing flying space Leia
I'll stop. Its all unfortunate.
I will say the Holdo maneuver looked really cool when I saw it in theaters. It was only later when we thought about it that we were like, “wait, nooooo.”
You know Leia was using the force to move herself, not actually _flying_ right?
@@sanremo112 Oh damn! What's up Captain Obvious? Didn't know you were in town.
Holdo's kamikaze attack was fine, and no it doesn't break any law. The often cited "hyperspace lanes" argument against it is simply irrelevant - The Raddus never enters hyperspace, it rams into the Supremacy, which is right in front of it, while it is accelerating. It doesn't matter what the trajectory of The Raddus beyond the Supremacy was as it was never intended to travel further than that - it was a kamikaze! The very definition of one.
You mean Green milk screen!
The dumbest thing about the sequel it that they're don't plan the whole thing from the start
There was one single amazingly dumb thing in the sequel trilogy and that was the sequel trilogy.
Rose was snubbed because she was a bad character full stop.
I laugh as soon as he blame everything else but lazy writing
"But, muh racisms"
I had to stop watching the video after that section. There was nothing good about this character. She was only written in to give KK something to get excited about.
Rose's sister was a better character
@@shamusomalley4263 you are a racist troll
Richard E Grant's Pryde was severely underused. I would love to see his time during the original trilogy
Who the hell casts Max Von Sydow in a cameo? Make him the goddamned Neo Emperor!
The trio of Dooku, Ventress, and Grievous is probably my fav villains. All pretty interesting backstories and reasons for becoming villains compared to Palpatine who is just ‘evil because evil’ and doesn’t have anything really interesting in his life story other than being a power hungry sociopath
But which villain inspires the greatest fear? And Vader has to be the most iconic villain of all time. Even girls who have avoided Star Wars their whole lives know who he is. I don’t know of any other movie villain that is a household name. Not even Voldemort. I’m not a movie buff though so maybe you can think of another Vader-comparable villain.
But you are correct about the back stories of the ones you named.
@@dronesclubhighjinksThe most interesting thing about Darth Vader is that he originally wanted to be good, bringing peace to the Galaxy, And f*cked up, becoming a galactic Reinhard Heydrich.
@@marekstanek112 thank you for letting me know!
10 dumbest things in the star wars sequel trilogy? The whole sequel trilogy is dumb!
4:02 the worst part about the side characters isn’t that they’re side characters, they’re just poorly utilized by the movies. Empire Strikes Back had a several side characters who had little screen time, and yet were very compelling. Lando, Boba Fett, Bosk, IG-88, the Norwegian Red Cross, the guy running with the ice cream maker on Bespin, Lobot, etc. they were just well-executed and relatively well-written characters.
Very true!
I remember getting the first of this trio of mess on blu-ray and had my parents over to watch it with me. We're all huge Star Wars fans and were excited to see this new stuff. Well, the movie ended and we were all stunned into silence and my dad turns to me and quietly asks "What was this even about?"
Rise of Skywalker is so dumb, I actually forgot what it was called.
Ugghhh, this trilogy still makes me so angry.
What an absolute waste.
I love it so much, its perfect!
The number 1 dumbest thing in Star Wars: Sequel Trilogy:
The Star Wars: Sequel Trilogy
Shame RUclips didn’t let you upload the entire sequel trilogy
Hux was one of the worst things in the sequel trilogy. I was so confused with him in TROS. The first two movies he wanted the resistance destroyed and was so committed to do that. In TROS, he turned out to be a spy and helped Finn and Poe escape. "I don't care if you win, I need Kylo Ren to lose."🤦♂
Yeah, he was at least a bit more interesting when he was a devoted fanatic.
That motivation is some thing an ex-girlfriend might think of. I’m a woman and I find it very odd that a man would have this motivation.
But this just is one of the massive list of idiotic things in these sequel movies. 😄
Disney forgot to buy contact lenses
That Chewie fake out was bs
In 1 quick scene JJ shows the other First Order transport. It just appears like Rey was looking at Chewbacca's ship.
My 3 favs are:
Poe's mysterious and magical disapearance from the tie fighter crash scene in TFA leaving Finn behind for dead in the middle of a desert without a single footprint. (JJ must have thought we didn't notice...)
The magical return of a lightsaber lost to the core of a giant gas planet. (JJ must have thought we didn't remember...)
The magical return of Palpatine (JJ must have thought that we are idiots...)
Not liking rose isn’t racist. She was just insufferable. But nice try.
Nah, there are plenty of things wrong with the sequels but Rose isn't one of them. Not even close to insufferable. The only truly insufferable character in the entire Star Wars franchise is old mate Jar Jar.
@@namikstudiosHow about when she betrayed them all by stopping Finn from saving them in his suicide run? She didn't know Luke was going to project himself and save the day. If he hadn't, then they all would've died because she didn't realize that sometimes good people have to sacrifice their lives in war.
@@namikstudios Stop the cap mate, there is a lot wrong with her. Calling it "racist" to not like it is outright bs at best. That word used to mean something... now no one cares.
@@matthewpatrick7263 Rose preventing Finn from pointlessly sacrificing himself is a positive not a negative. Considering how his skimmer was rapidly disintegrating as he foolishly drove it through the path of the beam, crashing into it wouldn't have achieved anything other than his own death. If anything this highlights a problem with Finn's actions, not Rose's. Besides, trying to save a hero of the Resistance (a main character) can hardly be seen as a betrayal. Rose's actions were selfless and very brave.
@@ricardokojin7 a great deal of the abuse directed at Kelly Marie Tran, the actress who played Rose, was most certainly racist in nature. I accept that some may simply dislike parts of the plot involving her, that's fine, but if that's really your issue then Rose should be the very least of your qualms with The Last Jedi, as she is a relatively small part of that wider plot.
I found neither Ren or Hux even vaguely credible. It takes a great deal of effort for me not to whistle the Laurel and Hardy theme tune when they appear together.
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@@megatronjenkins2473 xD
I'm sure they're professionals. Because it took true talent to mess up as badly as they did. 🤣
could easiely be 100 Dumbest Things In Star Wars: Sequel Trilogy
Coming up with a top 10 list of "good smart things in the sequel trilogy" would be impossible.
Nah that's the Prequels
Even if thé dumbest things in SW was made into a pentalogy, IT would still be a much BETTER movie series than thé SW.
There are only 3 things wrong with the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy.
1) The Force Awakens
2) The Last Jedi
3) The Rise of Skywalker
That's all that's wrong. I don't know how they got a list of 10 things.
@@orbaitv5991I think the prequels had a good overarching story. Unfortunately, it was poorly executed. I view them as a bad high school play about what really happened.
Snoke should have been the new Palpatin during Force awakening, the last Jedi, and the rise of Skywalker
We need a show set between VI and VII that explains how Luke fell and how Maz Kanat found the lightsaber, or maybe two shows if they can't be linked. Maybe another one about how Palpatine returned.
I'm surprised this is only 12 minutes.
How did you manage to narrow it down to just 10? Serious talent, that's how. :D
How sad, we’ve lost the age old ability that goes back to primitive times called storytelling.
Fav villain will always be the cunning and sinister Emperor Palpatine. The man was quiet and unassuming when he needed to be, but savage and maniacal in the Dark Side, to the point that even Vader was shocked by his brutality in combat.
Rey being a Palpatine could've worked if if the line "Somehow Palpatine has returned" didnt exist. We just spent two movies with new villians and no signs of Palpatine to have him forced into the last movie and have it announced in a random fortnite event that no one was expecting to have key info about the last movie.
Palpatine had to be in from the start. Everytime we are talking Rey's family we should be seeing something that gives a hint. They had enough there to make everything work but decided only make connections after the fact.
Your first sentence is a brilliant idea! I’ve never heard anybody else say this.
They could've also thought about generational timelines: Rey was roughly the same age as Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren's parents were babies when Palpatine was already "grandfather age." Rey was Palpatine's granddaughter. She should've been at least his great-granddaughter if not even deeper.
If they were going to bring Palps back it should have been as a force ghost. He could still do everything he does in Rise as a ghost and it wouldn't have left us all wondering how he survived falling down the core of the Second Death Star and then somehow survived again when it exploded minutes later. He didn't need to come back alive for it to work.
Only 10? I admire your restraint.
Video would be to long otherwise ;)
this is the 10 dumbest, there are many many MANY dumb things but this is what they consider to be the dumbest.
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Out of all 9 mainline Star Wars movies, Rise of Skywalker is the only one that left me feeling genuinely underwhelmed.
You said Rian Johnson and Brilliantly together and lost ALL credibility.
The dumbest thing in the Sequel trilogy was the entire thing getting green lit.
I really loved when, after Han's death, Leia and Chewie walk past each other like strangers and Leia comforts a girl she barely knew. Very believable character motivations.
Why would killing of Chewie be a good idea? Bro was the only thing going for the sequels
Not so much the killing him off, but the whole 'bait and switch' thing that shows in the old days used all the time for any cliffhanger.
We saw him get into THAT SHIP, which then blew up. He's dead!
There's *far* too much stupidity in the sequel trilogy for me to have been able to condense a list down to 10 items, so good on you for managing that much, WhatCulture.
The 3 dumbest things in this trilogy:
The first movie
The second movie
The third movie
I will argue axing off snoke was the right choice. The problem was just replacing him with palpetine the next movie instead of sticking with Kylo being the lead villain in the next film.
i agree with this, since Snoke was just a palp rip off, even before being revealed he was a palp rip off, lol.
I would have made Snoke a former apprentice of Plageius who was ousted by Palpatine. Either way Kylo *needed* to be the villain of episode IX for it to have had any chance of being good.
“THEY FLY NOW” yes they have, ever since the days of the clone wars.
Fans: When will we get good Star Wars movies????
Disney: Dear child, the movies you seek are not near you… it is ahead
Fans: How far ahead????
Disney: A good question for another time
THEY FLY NOW !?!?
I think they had the best character introduction ever….. then 2 seconds later absolutely destroyed it. When kylo was first introduced he froze the laser blasts. A feet never seen in a Star Wars movie. It was undeniably badass! Super intimidating and a fantastic way to show how powerful he was. Then the replacement Han Solo starts making fun of him, To his face! It didn’t show how brave and funny that guy was, it just showed that the main bad guy was a joke.
The fact that racists hated Rose doesn't change the fact that she was a terrible character who sidelined Finn.
Nobody hated her because of her race.
I hated, hated, hated, HATED the concept of Snoke. I'm glad Rian Johnson killed him off because it would've put up a good power struggle between Kylo Ren and Gen. Hux in the third movie. In the end, Hux is just an ancillary character.
The only good thing about these movies , kylo ren's ark and the return of Palpatine
Knights of Ren needed red lightsabers and actual screentime, followed by voice lines. Finn needed to be revealed as a jedi.
It's actually impressive how they took one of the most beloved IPs and dropped the worlds biggest shit on it while staring us directly in the eyes... They didnt even blink...
What a wasted opportunity these movies are. I remember when I saw the prequel trilogy. I was excited, some things didn't make sense or Jar Jar Binks was annoying .. but these movies are supreme stupid's. What a shame.
I remember when I got home after seeing RoSW it hit me that the last 6 years of hype over the movies had been a waste.
Narrowing this down to a top 10 must’ve been hard.
Maz Kanada actually appeared prior to the sequel Trilogy in a really unknown Lego SW Show called The Freemaker Adventures
General Hux revealing "I'm the spy" deserved a place on this list. For me, those three words tie with "They fly now" as the three dumbest words spoken in a Star Wars movie.
oh, please; those three-word sentences have nothing on "somehow, palpatine returned"
Yeah, Joshfactor is right, "I'm the spy" is nothing.
How is it dumb?! His reason for going against Kylo are perfectly valid and it is something foreshadowed in TLJ. Also "they fly now" was just a joke line. It isn't meant to be taken serious.
@@orbaitv5991Hux BEING the spy is not dumb, I agree. Hux ANNOUNCING it to the Resistance in the way that he did is the dumb part, particularly "the spy"; how does Hux know which spy they might be thinking of? There could be multiple spies! The line is a shorthand to quickly get us to the realization that Hux is betraying the First Order, but it doesn't feel earned to me.
Hey get on my Space Horse! 🐴
Minimizing the use of R2. I love BB8 but R2 was WOEFULLY pushed aside to sell a new toy. R2 is arguably one of the major heroes of the saga
Star Wars has been R2D2's story since the begin. Should have been the guideline for the sequel...
#4 "Looks like we're about to die so I want to tell you I qualify to be part of your religious order?" Hours that I was supposed to make sense?
Now Give Me J.J Abrams, (in Klingon) Revenge is a dish best served Cold!
It was a dumb move to include scenes of Lando and Chewie on the Falcon in the previews. Anyone who watched the trailer would know Chewie wasn’t really killed. That took away any kind of emotional impact that scene could have had.
So we’re not gonna talk about how Luke Skywalker’s Legacy was completely tarnished, seriously alien, titty milk? Or Rey not-Skywalker being automatically expertly able to handle a light saber and defeat a well-trained Sith master? Or bothering with animal cruelty side story that goes nowhere? Or all of a sudden, low fuel is a problem after never being a problem for 9 films? Or all of a sudden, ships can magically go through force fields?
Finn and Rey felt natural. Finn and Rose felt forced. Rey and Kylo feels forced and Rey and Finn feel natural
Finally! Someone isn't afraid to spew the same tired complaints over and over again! Love fresh takes...
In regards to Rey’s origin, making her a Palpatine, is the problem.
Rose was dreadful though! She single-handedly wiped out the Rebellion
Greatest Mistake was giving Star Wars to JJ Abrams.
All other 7 star wars movie were stories in itself. That meant you could view them on themselves.
JJ Abrams loves his mystery boxes so much. But they don't fit Star Wars Movies.
Killing Ackbar, the Holdo Maneuver, the Force ghosts being able to do things in the physical world - the list is endless
JJ & KK never clearly explain or use the dreaded "Knights" of Ren either. Everyone was waiting for Luke to cut thru them or for them to reek havoc. Nope!
There's nothing wrong with Holdo's kamikaze. ...and why does everyone call it a "maneuver" when what she did is the textbook definition of a kamikaze attack? It's not like there isn't a specific name for this "maneuver".
I'm taking a few liberties here but without a doubt in my favorite Star Wars character is most definitely tie-in between Director Orson Callan Krennic and Jango Fett.
Ten... Is that all ya got?
I could do a whole trilogy.
And a solo one.
Issue I had, no way Leia is going to hug Rey first, I dont care if they did know themselves in the force. The Force doesnt work that way, Leia and Chewie risked their lives during the original Star Wars movies, it would be like my grandfathers (Who both fought in WWII) how they felt about someone they didnt know and a mate in unit they served. They both fought and watched friends die. So, those that survived were normally like their brothers. They shared a bond, that many cant understand. Chewie and Leia were like family, solders, and people who watched friends die. No way is Rey going to be accepted into that group.
Favorite villain 100% Darth Vader. No competition at all.
Rose wasn't disliked just for racial shit.
She was disliked because her character was pointless when compared to the rest of the star studded cast.
C'mon, you seriously don't believe the worst parts of this fandom were throwing slurs at her? On the internet? Really?
@Azure_Fire I didn't say that, I said "Just for racial shit."
@@thejuggl3r442 Understood but it wasn't people criticizing her character that made her leave Twitter.
@@Azure_Fire Nobody MADE her leave Twitter. She chose to herself.
@@thejuggl3r442 Dude c'mon. Don't make excuses for these terrible people. Leave the "she chose this herself" argument for the Saw franchise.
So Finn was actually a Force Sensitive individual also huh, Good 4 Him!
Making Rey a "nobody" is not brilliant, it's lazy. It's basically the writer screaming "I HAVE NO IDEAS" at the audience. Plus I never believed it was ever intended to be her true origins in the first place, I mean it was only the second movie in a trillogy. They're not going to reveal everything in the middle cause then there'd be no reason to come back for a 3rd movie. The dumb thing was not just making a Skywalker cause now there's absolutly reason why the Lightsaber held by Anakin and Luke before her would ever call out to her as there's nothing connecting her to it. Kylo also seemed to already be aware of who she was in the first film which would make sense if she was a Skywalker but they completly abandoned that concept to make them love interests in the sequel.
As for waisted villains, honestly I was never going to care about random soldier guy or Shiney Stormtrooper anyway. In a world where the force exists it's very hard to make non-force sensitive characters interesting or compelling. The Fetts only became interesting because of the design as neither Jango nor Boba ever actually did anything other than stand there and look cool in their armor. So the only real waisted potential is Emperor Snoke who should have been revealed as Darth Pleaguis. You know the guy already set up in episode 3 to be able to cheat death. Bringing Palpatine back randomly just undoes the ending of the original trillogy and makes Snoke completly pointless.
How did you narrow it down to ten?
Yeah, the they fly now quote was DEFINITELY cringe worthy. In the Expanded Edition of The Force Awakens novel or comic, it actually shows how Maz got Anakin/Luke’s lightsaber.
You guys left The Last Jedi completely untouched.
Did you think the casino scene was brilliant? Did you think that Rose stopping Finn's sacrifice made sense? Would you have added the "Holdo Maneuver"? Would you have had Leia Mary Poppinsing herself through space?
I really wish entertainment media would stop licking Rian Johnson's boots. I love Whatculture, however you guys can do better.
Actually Kylo Ren is quite as ridiculous as other characters in this failure trilogy
Never once after he took off the mask he looked scary at all....the fact that random girl with zero training was kicking his ass doesn't help.
The 3 C's to avoid when Writing = Coincidences, Conveniences, and Contrivances. And J.J. Abrams Star Wars and Star Trek drown in them