The Idle Hours of a Psychologist

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
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    The Twilight of Idols is described by Nietzsche as a work of leisure: a leap sideways, a bit of sunshine, a form of play rather than work. The laboriousness of 'notebook psychology', in which one strains and squints and spies on reality, could not be further from this natural discernment based on what one is given. In this episode, we explore exactly what Nietzsche means by this distinction. Once again, it is tied in with his differentiation between the artistic and the theoretic. Through Twilight of Idols, Nietzsche remarks on psychology and his approach to it, suggests that it is found in literature, and suggests that some men who claim to be psychologists are really just head cases. Join me as we consider these ideas at a leisurely pace.
    Episode art is Satan Resting on the Mountain by Gustave Dore.

Комментарии • 47

  • @cautionary_tale
    @cautionary_tale 6 месяцев назад +70

    For a long time I pictured Nietzsche writing his words down with a bit of a smirk on his face. But lately I see him writing in the dark with tears in his eyes and punching the wall.

    • @Faus4us_Official
      @Faus4us_Official 6 месяцев назад +3

      I get that. Jung is a great example of Unifying those seemingly antithetical views. It's the wholehearted acceptance of reality AKA Beyond Good and Evil. Perhaps Nietzsche did this but ultimately succumbed to the limitations of the flesh i.e. disease, cognitive processing capability, and death? That sounds rather humanesque to me. We're all essentially varying degrees of human, but our base ingredient is always human. I like Nietzsche for his openness and honesty about his views. Anyone who seeks to discard a mask has already accepted that they may have one on. Nietzsche is as naked as a newborn baby in this respect. Bare and full of emptiness. He was a man who was just as honest with himself as he was with others, if not more so.

    • @davidhartney3965
      @davidhartney3965 6 месяцев назад +6

      I could picture him doing both. Bipolar style. Or paradoxically like the title of the new Billie Eilish album ‘Hit me softly and hard’. Maybe Billie has been reading some Nietzsche.

    • @whoaitstiger
      @whoaitstiger 6 месяцев назад +2

      If anyone was wondering, Nietzsche did experiment with a typewriter in the early 1880's when his eyesight was rapidly declining. He is said to have been quite excited about the technology but ultimately he ended up relying more on dictation in his last productive years.

    • @whoaitstiger
      @whoaitstiger 6 месяцев назад

      @@James-ll3jb Well yeah, I said he experimented with a typewriter. I don't know what you think I said.

    • @whoaitstiger
      @whoaitstiger 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@James-ll3jb Oh right yeah that's fair enough. I thought you meant the typing. I'm not sure where I picked that up, but it's super impressive that he was writing up until the last days with such terrible eyesight.

  • @nicolaswhitehouse3894
    @nicolaswhitehouse3894 6 месяцев назад +17

    Stendhal : « The science of knowing the motives of men’s action ». That is the definition of psychology ! Thank you for the video.

  • @whoaitstiger
    @whoaitstiger 6 месяцев назад +22

    “The errors of great men are venerable because they are more fruitful than the truths of little men.”
    I'll remember this for the next time someone corrects me on Reddit. 😂

    • @ggrthemostgodless8713
      @ggrthemostgodless8713 5 месяцев назад

      Doesn't mean it is true for YOU... using it makes you witty, savvy.
      The assumption that YOU are one of the great belies the fact you are using this as a hammer, without proof, on others that disagree with you. Like the millions that live by internet memes. A snob so to speak.

    • @whoaitstiger
      @whoaitstiger 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@ggrthemostgodless8713 Of course yeah, that's the joke. It would be extremely obnoxious and arrogant for me to use this online.

    • @ggrthemostgodless8713
      @ggrthemostgodless8713 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@whoaitstiger
      Got you.

  • @drbeavis4211
    @drbeavis4211 6 месяцев назад +11

    WEW! Was just looking for a good podcast to mow the lawn to and LO AND BEHOLD! Just in time. Thanks a bunch

    • @cocoanco7
      @cocoanco7 6 месяцев назад

      hahaha 🤣

  • @zerotwo7319
    @zerotwo7319 6 месяцев назад +6

    those two last podcasts were invaluable.

  • @Kimarusco
    @Kimarusco 6 месяцев назад +10

    Just discovered your channel a few days ago and have really enjoyed listening to these, especially your videos on Rousseau and Pascal! I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on Hume from a Nietzschean view someday, I know Schopenhauer quite liked him.

  • @nicolaswhitehouse3894
    @nicolaswhitehouse3894 6 месяцев назад +11

    6:24. I laughed so much when you said that. Twilight of idols is relatively calm and sane.

    • @Faus4us_Official
      @Faus4us_Official 6 месяцев назад

      It's just another arrangement of letters claiming to mean something beyond themselves lol

    • @khalsakyshatry
      @khalsakyshatry 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Faus4us_Officialwow your so profound, what grand intellect on display

  • @0rangecray0n
    @0rangecray0n 6 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for your vast insight

  • @alexanderkuruvilla1707
    @alexanderkuruvilla1707 6 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing! you truly have god gifted talent !

  • @sternenfahrt999
    @sternenfahrt999 Месяц назад

    46:44 "lard, poor lard"

  • @safuvanmohammed2978
    @safuvanmohammed2978 6 месяцев назад +3

    This is exactly why Nietzsche called Dostoevsky a psychologist. Dostoevsky tried to see his opposition as they truly are and not what he wanted to see, which is very similar to Nietzsche
    Edit: I was adding to the discussion by saying here is a positive example by Nietzsche, but of course you have already said it in the video, as I later saw it.😂

  • @theWinterWalker
    @theWinterWalker 2 дня назад

    I LOVE this podcast

  • @H.C.J.
    @H.C.J. 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great episode.

  • @OverOnTheWildSide
    @OverOnTheWildSide 5 месяцев назад

    Which cultures lacked enough leisure for philosophy?
    Ironcially the ones who coined the phrases about idleness.
    Hunter gatherers had time, the Roman Republic had plenty of time, the Mongols had time, the Norse people had time…
    It’s the people groups who were told to keep their nose to the grindstone that haven’t been allowed that time.

  • @bobcabot
    @bobcabot 6 месяцев назад

    ja it is funny and intriguing that we consider even before any action done the very premise of that condition itself as the beginning of all evil...

  • @bogusbladegameing4897
    @bogusbladegameing4897 6 месяцев назад

    When wich ham has brough forth a command benefit of my wombat nexus, i seek the outer tormoul of the prismatic abyys. Long after the zenephon highlights have been applied delicately

  • @amorfati4096
    @amorfati4096 6 месяцев назад +1

    Antichrist is a diss on religion

  • @kimwelch4652
    @kimwelch4652 6 месяцев назад

    I'm not sure Nietzsche recognized the difference between psychology and philosophy. While in Nietzsche's day any dilettante could "do" psychology, psychologists in general perform experiments and/or provide therapy. Philosophers don't. And, philosophy is definitely a vice -- and a nasty one at that. However, this does add weight to the theory that Freud and Jung got their psychology from Nietzsche.

    • @kaialaz4610
      @kaialaz4610 5 месяцев назад

      I think it is not completely justifiable to posit that philosophy in all of its multi-faceted branches does NOT offer therapeutic affects.

    • @balaari4842
      @balaari4842 13 дней назад

      Iembedded bro can’t fucking sleep

  • @gmw3083
    @gmw3083 6 месяцев назад

    This explains what happened to Jordan Peterson..

    • @g.j
      @g.j 6 месяцев назад

      What do you mean what happens to Jordan Peterson ?

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 6 месяцев назад

      @@g.j What HAPPENED. Due to his own actions. I put it this way. He was taken up to the summit and offered the precious ring of power. He accepted...

    • @0rangecray0n
      @0rangecray0n 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@gmw3083 He was cancelled what power do you speak of?

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@0rangecray0n he went from unknown to famous and now depending on ones perspective, he's infamous. That's the arc of the fallen..

  • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
    @adcaptandumvulgus4252 6 месяцев назад +1

    I suspect part of his madness was due to consuming some type of intoxicant excessively similar to the same problem we have today and that the people before him but I'm not omniscient that's just my two cent hot take.

    • @nescius2
      @nescius2 6 месяцев назад +2

      kids, dont do syfilis

    • @bloodsonnet
      @bloodsonnet 6 месяцев назад +3

      He apparently took chloral hydrate and potassium bromide as well as opium and some think that at least contributed to his insanity 🤷‍♂️

    • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
      @adcaptandumvulgus4252 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@bloodsonnet news to me but not a surprising revelation, to me. Carry on

  • @ggrthemostgodless8713
    @ggrthemostgodless8713 5 месяцев назад

    A bit less well defined than other episodes, but excellent try. Specially midway the generalist versus individualist cases.
    I am not saying I know ANYONE that cold have done better; it is ONE of the many topics that are hard to expose, this psychology issue, even if in your mind or "instinctively" you know it. This very aspect of it makes it also one though which many charlatans come and fit in, i.e, Jordan Peterson, the Mind Valley guy, and Deepak Chopra.

    • @balaari4842
      @balaari4842 13 дней назад

      @@durden91tylerviolation