This was the best modding video I’ve ever seen, usually they’re really dry and I don’t find them entertaining, but this was perfect, your voice and humour was great and it was a fun video. I’ll definitely see what other tech stuff you’ve covered!
Ever notice how the quality of the construction Famicom is so much cheaper than the NES? Thank W. Edwards Deming for influencing Japan to have higher QC for exports.
I never had a NES. I originally had a Famiclone and thought it was crappy and the cartridge plastics cheap and nasty. When I eventually got a real famicom I discovered the genuine article was only marginally better 😂
If I recall that correctly the way to tell whether you have the soldered powered unit version or the one with 2 separate boards is whether there is an FF logo on the front of the unit (to the left of the Family Computer text). The FF version will be single board.
What do you think about starting metal screws in plastic threads by turning them back until the click to line up the threads? I find that starting them anywhere could cut a new thread which might break through to the existing one.
Seems like you have sort of a sloppy style, still it's not like it's things that matter. Like I wouldn't feel any sort of way using stuff you worked on, but OCD wise, I would probably tidy up some details if I was in there anyway, just to be sure it looks good from the underside of the PCB inside the case :P Like you have such a nice iron compared to mine, so I wouldn't bother even unscrewing a single screw to like mess with it
I'm considering buying Your Power/AV mod board, but i have a few questions. What power regulator are You using? I assume it's a STMicoelectronics l78xx kind? What's the size of the barrel plug you need for Your mod? 5.5/2.1mm? How much is Your mod influenced by switching power supply noise? Is it worth it to get a good 9V powersupply or will there be no noticeable difference if it's a more budget kind? Is was planning to use a Mean Well GSM18E09-P1J, which is probably a bit overkill, being meant for medical equipment, heh ^^; Thanks! ^_^
Saw on the RetroRGB blog, that You do use a l7805cv voltage regulator, which is nice, since the old original voltage regulator that was inside the famicom/NES usually just had a ripple rejection of 60dB, where the l7805 has 68dB. I guess Your mod uses a 5.5/2.1 barrel plug, but i'll simply get a powersupply with interchangeable plugs that costs more than 10 bucks, hoping for the best :p
Looking at it, the AV leads are out of stock so only the module without the AV is available. There should be more in next week or perhaps you can source it locally.
@@backofficeshow Those AV leads are easy enough to source from somewhere. Bought! Now my Famicom has to arrive from Japan and not be total junk, where I have to replace the PPU or CPU :D On the pictures it looked nice ... It even had a Famicom Disk adapter... without the disk reader unit itself, heh ^^; Let's see ^_^
Hey there! I heard you had some perfectly good RF modulator assemblies! Any chance you'd be willing to part with one? Or two? Or tell me what kind of ceramic capacitor takes up C14 and C16 so my homie could replace them? That would be awesome! Thanks!
@@backofficeshow I would sincerely appreciate it. I removed ceramic caps C14 and C16 and they just shattered. Label side too no less. Literally have no idea what they were and it's extremely difficult to find a cap map for this sort of thing. Lmao. To add insult to injury, the output still works without them, but the problem I was trying to fix worsened with their absence (so it was probably the cause). They're right by the RF out if that helps at all.
Hi! I've got a Famicom that was already AV modded (altough not the best AV mod). It has jailbars, the video is noisy... (I mean, it's composite). Would this be an upgrade? I haven't found any videos comparing your AV Board to a regular AV mod so I wanted to ask I love my Famicom, but with those short controller cords and that video quality I don't play it very often. I'm not modding it for RGB because I don't want to cut the case nor lose the ejecting functionallity. Thank you if you read me, and thank you all for doing this project!
Ctrl-alt-rees made a video upgrading his previously modded one: ruclips.net/video/W_idHOIHi0Q/видео.html and several people have done similar. It's hard to know what mod you have if it's super bad like you describe. If those jail bars are being caused from the PSU then the VAMP + a better PSU could help.
@@backofficeshow Well, it's easy enough for me to do it, and if in the future there's a new RGB/HDMI mod for the Famicom that doesn't require sacrificing part of the case and ejecting mechanism, I could upgrade easily from this. Thank you for helping!
Hi Dustin, if you can jump into the Discord server with some photos we can advise. But generally most of these are resolved by changing out the PSU. Can you confirm the PSU you are using?
The original Famicom power supply output 10 volts DC at 850 milliamps. Would that hurt this board that’s rated for 9 volts DC or would it be alright? I have a spare Genesis model 2/Game Gear power supply that outputs the same values but I’m unable to use it at the moment because the polarity is center positive. Also, I live in the US, does this board output NTSC 60 hz video or do I need to get a converter? I’m sorry if these are stupid questions.
I would recommend getting a regulated 9v centre positive adaptor, 1000mA is plenty. Modern regulated adaptors are so much better and only a few dollars. The output should work fine on your US television.
i have to go to poste office tomorow to got it( damn it postman) . I can't wait to play the original famicom ( with a better image them my poor french nes).
I’ve got one of the models with the heat shield. I have a decent enough soldering iron but I don’t have any specialist desoldering tools (just some wick and a sucker thing). Will I have no hope in installing this?
I'm always confused with all these Nintendo consoles. So the Famicom is the NES here in europe and Super-Famicom is Super-Nintendo? A really nice replacement solution! It's always quite satisfying fixing retro-hardware with modern parts. I recently replaced these huge, hot "power bricks" (plus two 230/110V converters!) of my Jaguar plus CD with a very small and always cold modern twin PSU. The best you can do for the Jag! A (german) video: ruclips.net/video/uWjYmhfPtss/видео.html 😉
@@backofficeshow Just add that the Famicom wasn't exclusive to Japan. Especially the Famicon clones (Famiclones) where basically the only options in places like in the Eastern Bloc, former Soviet Union countries, South America, etc.
Should I feel bad about manhandling? No. You shouldn't because you know what you're doing and you can fix it. It's different if you don't know what you're doing and you manhandle.
I don't see why man handling your own tackle is an issue, it's your party and you can cry if you want to. 😁 🖖👍 Every-time I see that CTV-5100 it reminds me of how rare! they are. If only the' Vintage television museum would let some free, all I find is manuals & remotes for sale. 😒
Exactly Andrew very, very true! I think a lot of it will end up with us in the end, crushed into the earth, dirt we walked on & become part of. But there will be few out there that will keep the retro scene alive & prosperous.
Theres nothing unbelievible about this,people could stiff all kind of things inside it to make it better ,it’s nothing new or revolutionary, people are already doing this for years.
1:46 These words on the tape are +不良 that mean +button is in malfunction state.
Thank you for picking up Famicon from our country.
Just installed this today! It was by far the easiest AV mod I've done on a Famicom. Thanks!
Feel free to tell your Famicom owning friends 😂
So glad you had a good experience, nothing quite like a nice crisp Famicom 👏👏
This was the best modding video I’ve ever seen, usually they’re really dry and I don’t find them entertaining, but this was perfect, your voice and humour was great and it was a fun video. I’ll definitely see what other tech stuff you’ve covered!
I got mine! Super easy to install and looks great on the tv
That's awesome to hear! Fantastic
Ever notice how the quality of the construction Famicom is so much cheaper than the NES? Thank W. Edwards Deming for influencing Japan to have higher QC for exports.
I never had a NES. I originally had a Famiclone and thought it was crappy and the cartridge plastics cheap and nasty. When I eventually got a real famicom I discovered the genuine article was only marginally better 😂
If I recall that correctly the way to tell whether you have the soldered powered unit version or the one with 2 separate boards is whether there is an FF logo on the front of the unit (to the left of the Family Computer text). The FF version will be single board.
I have a little pile of Famicoms at home, not sure I ever noticed that, but I'll definitely be doing an audit now!
as far as I’m concerned the goo might just be very old hot glue lmao
What do you think about starting metal screws in plastic threads by turning them back until the click to line up the threads? I find that starting them anywhere could cut a new thread which might break through to the existing one.
Yeah that's a good trick. I don't worry about it too much, but I might start taking more and trying this.
Think that gunk is silicone to keep it from arcing or shorting. Modern boards are usually coated in silicone
Seems like you have sort of a sloppy style, still it's not like it's things that matter. Like I wouldn't feel any sort of way using stuff you worked on, but OCD wise, I would probably tidy up some details if I was in there anyway, just to be sure it looks good from the underside of the PCB inside the case :P Like you have such a nice iron compared to mine, so I wouldn't bother even unscrewing a single screw to like mess with it
Really nice
I'm considering buying Your Power/AV mod board, but i have a few questions. What power regulator are You using? I assume it's a STMicoelectronics l78xx kind? What's the size of the barrel plug you need for Your mod? 5.5/2.1mm? How much is Your mod influenced by switching power supply noise? Is it worth it to get a good 9V powersupply or will there be no noticeable difference if it's a more budget kind? Is was planning to use a Mean Well GSM18E09-P1J, which is probably a bit overkill, being meant for medical equipment, heh ^^; Thanks! ^_^
Saw on the RetroRGB blog, that You do use a l7805cv voltage regulator, which is nice, since the old original voltage regulator that was inside the famicom/NES usually just had a ripple rejection of 60dB, where the l7805 has 68dB. I guess Your mod uses a 5.5/2.1 barrel plug, but i'll simply get a powersupply with interchangeable plugs that costs more than 10 bucks, hoping for the best :p
Sorry only just saw this. Not quite sure on the barrel plug to be honest, it's just the regular size 😂
@@backofficeshow Hey! ^-^/ I just wanted to place my order... The mod isn't in stock anymore?
Looking at it, the AV leads are out of stock so only the module without the AV is available. There should be more in next week or perhaps you can source it locally.
@@backofficeshow Those AV leads are easy enough to source from somewhere. Bought! Now my Famicom has to arrive from Japan and not be total junk, where I have to replace the PPU or CPU :D On the pictures it looked nice ... It even had a Famicom Disk adapter... without the disk reader unit itself, heh ^^; Let's see ^_^
Hey there! I heard you had some perfectly good RF modulator assemblies! Any chance you'd be willing to part with one? Or two? Or tell me what kind of ceramic capacitor takes up C14 and C16 so my homie could replace them? That would be awesome! Thanks!
I have a nasty feeling that I parted with the old modulators, but I can take a look in the morning
@@backofficeshow I would sincerely appreciate it. I removed ceramic caps C14 and C16 and they just shattered. Label side too no less. Literally have no idea what they were and it's extremely difficult to find a cap map for this sort of thing. Lmao. To add insult to injury, the output still works without them, but the problem I was trying to fix worsened with their absence (so it was probably the cause). They're right by the RF out if that helps at all.
C14 15pF, C15 33pF
@@backofficeshow Thank you. Bless you for this help!
No problem
this looks great! will you be getting any more in stock?
After the summer holidays I will be making some more. Are you in Discord? I can update you on there
Finally I've been waiting for a decent board for this issue.
Just ordered one. Thank you very much indeed my fellow Brit. (r.a.w.talentart insta.)
Fantastic, I just know your will be very pleased with the result!
Makes them way more practical
Hi! I've got a Famicom that was already AV modded (altough not the best AV mod). It has jailbars, the video is noisy... (I mean, it's composite).
Would this be an upgrade? I haven't found any videos comparing your AV Board to a regular AV mod so I wanted to ask
I love my Famicom, but with those short controller cords and that video quality I don't play it very often. I'm not modding it for RGB because I don't want to cut the case nor lose the ejecting functionallity.
Thank you if you read me, and thank you all for doing this project!
Ctrl-alt-rees made a video upgrading his previously modded one: ruclips.net/video/W_idHOIHi0Q/видео.html and several people have done similar. It's hard to know what mod you have if it's super bad like you describe. If those jail bars are being caused from the PSU then the VAMP + a better PSU could help.
@@backofficeshow Thank you for your answer! The mod it's not the best, it was done by a PC repair shop 7 years ago... Maybe I should upgrade, yeah.
It's hard to tell if the end result will be what you are looking for, but at least you end up with a known solution 😂
@@backofficeshow Well, it's easy enough for me to do it, and if in the future there's a new RGB/HDMI mod for the Famicom that doesn't require sacrificing part of the case and ejecting mechanism, I could upgrade easily from this.
Thank you for helping!
Will your board work on the newer av famicom console?
After installing I have jailbars showing. What's the best way to get those removed?
Hi Dustin, if you can jump into the Discord server with some photos we can advise. But generally most of these are resolved by changing out the PSU. Can you confirm the PSU you are using?
Will this get a release in the us or do I need to mess with money conversions?
Most orders to the website already from the USA and I have not heard of any issues so far with payment.
The original Famicom power supply output 10 volts DC at 850 milliamps. Would that hurt this board that’s rated for 9 volts DC or would it be alright? I have a spare Genesis model 2/Game Gear power supply that outputs the same values but I’m unable to use it at the moment because the polarity is center positive. Also, I live in the US, does this board output NTSC 60 hz video or do I need to get a converter? I’m sorry if these are stupid questions.
I would recommend getting a regulated 9v centre positive adaptor, 1000mA is plenty. Modern regulated adaptors are so much better and only a few dollars.
The output should work fine on your US television.
@@backofficeshowThanks!
it`your hw you can take care as you like i dont even bot6her what they say it`s my nice vid mate
Thank you, much appreciated
@@backofficeshow youre welcome mate
i have to go to poste office tomorow to got it( damn it postman) . I can't wait to play the original famicom ( with a better image them my poor french nes).
Did you get it installed yet?
IMO, it's your stuff, you can work on it your way.
I think some people are a bit "precious" when they see someone doing things differently.
Like it said before, keeping things with kids gloves makes no sense, you may as well enjoy it, because your kids will not care 😂
As long as you're not bustin' it up with wanton abandon, you do you.
How to order the upgrade board?
it's at backofficeshow.com
I’ve got one of the models with the heat shield. I have a decent enough soldering iron but I don’t have any specialist desoldering tools (just some wick and a sucker thing). Will I have no hope in installing this?
I think if you are careful and get the heat shield off you should be fine. That's the worst part.
Could have made it so the controller wires were longer
I'm always confused with all these Nintendo consoles. So the Famicom is the NES here in europe and Super-Famicom is Super-Nintendo?
A really nice replacement solution! It's always quite satisfying fixing retro-hardware with modern parts. I recently replaced these huge, hot "power bricks" (plus two 230/110V converters!) of my Jaguar plus CD with a very small and always cold modern twin PSU. The best you can do for the Jag! A (german) video: ruclips.net/video/uWjYmhfPtss/видео.html 😉
You got it, NES and SNES over here and Famicom and Super Famicom in Japan
@@backofficeshow Just add that the Famicom wasn't exclusive to Japan. Especially the Famicon clones (Famiclones) where basically the only options in places like in the Eastern Bloc, former Soviet Union countries, South America, etc.
Should I feel bad about manhandling? No. You shouldn't because you know what you're doing and you can fix it. It's different if you don't know what you're doing and you manhandle.
I don't see why man handling your own tackle is an issue, it's your party and you can cry if you want to. 😁 🖖👍
Every-time I see that CTV-5100 it reminds me of how rare! they are. If only the' Vintage television museum would let some free, all I find is manuals & remotes for sale. 😒
Right on💪💪💪
Better people man handling them than putting them in a box for later disinterested generations to throw in the recycling!
Exactly Andrew very, very true! I think a lot of it will end up with us in the end, crushed into the earth, dirt we walked on & become part of. But there will be few out there that will keep the retro scene alive & prosperous.
I like you accent haha
Theres nothing unbelievible about this,people could stiff all kind of things inside it to make it better ,it’s nothing new or revolutionary, people are already doing this for years.
no its your stuff you deceide
Thank you, how's things?
@@backofficeshow great thank you and how are you
Surviving the heat mainly 😂