Yeah wich is exactly why Its wrong to act as If every female=Just a female Like everyone Else. There are differences within a gender great enough to differentiate
Yup it's like comparing a female Elephant to a female Giraffe. They're both large but one of them's heavier than the other and built like a d*mn wall. Different physiology, different results.
While I 100% agree, the guys quote wasn't "Moclan females are weak" and instead it was "Females are weak", the problem lies in his use syntax, they were simply responding to his generalized claim.
But when you think about it, her species, even the females have the neccesary physical strength, heck a ten times more strength for every physical work where it would be dangerous for humans to do without the machinery 😂
That's exactly what anybody with a brain is thinking. Cause if a man can't eat a knife but a female goat can it kinda just goes off to comparing a human to a goat
Technically yes, of course many Moclans were previously female...So if a transitioned female Moclan did something a naturally born male couldn't, its just a matter of biological enhancement, not necessarily sex.
Actually the guys quote wasn't "Moclan females are weak" and instead it was "Females are weak", the problem lies in his use syntax, they were simply responding to his generalized claim.
@@mistertea603if I took a DND Dragon.... And it crushed the bones of a human with ease... never having worked out or worked for that strength would you say it had to be honed? Genetics will always be superior to effort. No woman can train or work hard enough to beat a man in a physical fight of pure strength.
@@nolifeconsolegamerthere are some who can take out the lowest tiers of men. But generally at least for humans the males are usually stronger than the females. Idk if you can apply that to aliens though
@@nolifeconsolegamerYour comment on a woman in a fight with a man is not correct. If you take the average female MMA fighter and pit them against the average man, the man loses hands down. Not just in technique, but in raw strength. Now you take a man and a woman that have done the same workout, and suddenly its far more likely that the man would win.
@@user-qp6pz5gq4etrans athletes have to be on hormones in order to compete and one trans athlete that is paraded around to support your argument is actually a FtM trans that’s forced to compete against females rather than males.
"Solid Titanium" Proceeds to crush it inwards as if it was filled with air. I'll let the feat of strength slide if the actually made it believable by following the rules of physics. When you apply enough pressure on something solid, matter moves into space where it is no facing any pressure, even if she was strong enough to crush Titanium, it would have gushed out between her fingers and considering how brittle Titanium is, it would be powdered rather than becoming paste that is malleable enough to be reshaped.
And the next moment moclan reveals that her species is notably strong due to their planet's gravity and the male counterpart of her(alara's) species is even stronger and could do the same thing in half as much time.
What kind of case is this supposed to be making?... "A female of our species would be inadequate for average work and life on a Moclan planet..." Some random alien woman from an entirely other species 'squishes cube'... "iVe mADe mY pOiNt"
This specific scene has a bad point but they make better points later. Such as their most beloved and highly praised writer happens to be a woman. Something no one on the planet knew. Women can survive on their planet and do. It was just a bad example here.
I wouldnt be supprised, i used to work with titanium a lot even forging it from time to time and it cools very quickly. It was actually annoying to try and keep it hot! but even still titanium wouldnt of even reshaped the way she did, if you try and brute force titanium it doesnt deform it shatters so that would of been an even better agruement.
Owned is exagerated. She made a claim/statement, it got refuted, they moved on to another point. It wasn't no huge mike drop owned moment. Both sides made valid points, finally the side the woman is on made the strongest and truest argument that a moclan could be female and have a happy and fulfilling life by bringing a moclan female as a witness to provide testimony about her life and how she was proud to have been born female. They only lost the legal battle, really, because of corruption within the moclan legal system and cultural indoctrination.
@@clutchgaming9774 i didn't say it was literally a mic drop moment either. I said it was "no huge mic drop owned moment", i simply used mic drop to convey intensity/severity. "Absolutely owned" conveys absolute defeat in the argument, total loss, which wasn't what happened. Her point was refuted, yes, but them she went on and made valid points, so did the moclans. I think to say she got absolutely owned is simply an exaggeration of what actually happened, which you say likely because you agree with the point the moclans made directly after the clip. She made an argument, they pointed out the holes in it and then they moved on to another point, they got just as much "owned" as she did throughout the trial, specifically when they could not refute that not all males are superior or even equal to the intelligence of all females when she presented gordon malloy.
Yah u dont get feministic obsession on making women stronger than men. Learn biology goddamn. Just because you are physically weaker dosent mean you are necessarily inferior
Nice to see they cut the scene just before its pointed out she is from a planet with a much higher gravity and that the males of her species would be much stronger.
@@Hoppypoppy21 you say that, but the female lawyer made nothing but poor arguments, the male lawyer however made sense and won the case. Or do you think it’s an issue of skin color or hair? Pale and long hair is inferior to to brown and bald?
@@blondpanda6211 I think the female individual made a bad argument yes. That's because this individual is a bad lawyer. It doesn't have anything to do with the fact she's a female. I'd also argue the male on the stand has a bad argument as well by just looking at physical strength. That is also unrelated to the fact he is a male.
Not saying Machlas was right, but Kelly’s defense is like saying Supergirl can bench press a mountain, but normal man can’t and that makes women just as equal as men can’t have someone super strength prove their stronger
Its best to judge peoples abilities not by their gender but by their capabilities. But to be honest, the lady that could reshape the cube snd the guy that saod it was impossible were not the same species so this doesnt apply very well.
@killerwolf58342 you haven't seen the show. The Moclon race (main species in the court room) are almost all male. Females are extremely rare and uncommon.
@@Hoppypoppy21 no, i have seen the show. And its not that they are rare, the are quite literally given sex changing operations at a young age or i think it was not ti long after birth
@@killerwolf58342 then you should know it would be impossible to compare the strength of a moclon female like you suggested since they are all sex changed. That would make even less sense story wise
@@Hoppypoppy21 yup, so this entire thing would be difficult to point out to a militarist ideological group such as the moclans. It would be like if you wanted to show that humans are the strongest species but you have superman as your spokesperson. Its not a fair comparison. Now if they shpwed the difference between the genders of what ever her name was on her planet, than it would be a fair comparison and argument. Or even if the two different gendered humans had essentially a fitness battle and did like push ups and the loke vs each orher, than maybe it woulda been more fair.
I don't think people understand the scene. They're not arguing that women are stronger than men. The thesis here is "please don't forcibly sex change the only Moclan girl."
We understand the scene. It's just a poorly written point that this part of the scene is making. A Moclan girl would still be weaker than a male, and Alara's strength is irrelevant.
@Lucci136 Moclans do sex change on any female Moclan babies. Borus wanted his daughter to chose for herself whether she wanted to be a male or female but his husband wanted to have the sex change against their wish, thus forcibly doing the sex change
Everyone seems to have missed the moral of this scene, proving both men and women are dumb. Everyone, everything has a strength and weakness. It’s collaborative efforts that make true strength. Borrow what you lack from your surroundings. Life 101
I've seen the actress who plays Alara in a lot of movies since this show, and she actually looks younger here. She doesn't seem to age either. Love her in everything I've seen her in.
Y'all are missing the point. He was calling all females weak, and she proved that there are strong females. It doesn't matter if she is from a strong species bc he was claiming that every female was weak Yes, the males of her species are probably stronger, but that doesn't make the females weak
yes it does, the female of the species are the weaker gender...... not a strong female, a strong ALIEN. also weakness could be portrayed via mental or emotional stability. how determined you are, or capable. etc. the vice captains point is moot. now the actual female moclans are strong in character FOR SURE. a way better representation then this pony show.
Actually, we really have no idea if the females would be stronger or weaker. In mammals for example, females are almost always stronger than their male counterpart. Humans are the exception, not the rule.
@@zechariah22 what are you talking about it is basically a 50/50 split for mammals when it comes to size and weight as for strength that often leans male in those species where size is all but identical female to male.
So, statistically if you were to compare this, it would be like comparing an average human with Wonder woman from DC, but yeah i get your point but the way of proving it was totally wrong
Brother you just made his point if they are weaker than they are by definition weak plain and simple. They would have needed to find a species that only the women are strong to prove their point what she did was prove his.
"This female rhino can crush a watermelon with its foot. Therefore, a female human should be able to as well." Mcfarlan is a good writer sometimes, but this is not one of those times.
This would be a valid point if the males of her species weren't stronger than her. All this really proved was that her species was very strong, on account of the strong gravity of their home planet.
She proved his statement wrong, he said females are weak, he did not clarify and say moclan females are weak, so it’s open for a female of any species to prove him wrong, the argument is justified.
Exactly what I was thinking. This would make their statement nonsense by the mere surgery portrayal. If it is just a surgery, then you would think they would be able to spot the adjusted female moclans, but it seems like they blend in with the solely male moclans very easily.
@@radiorebel8223 Kliden was female, and somehow that didn’t stop him and Bortus from having Topa… maybe the surgery includes actual addition of testosterone/sperm creation in the body that somehow works as a perfect function for procreation…?
Because if sex is changed at a young age then they develop as male, the chemicals produced that make males stronger would then in turn make the child stronger, like in humans, testosterone is a chemical that is produced more in males, and its what makes people strong, it builds muscle, and since men have more testosterone, they can on average build more muscle. As well this is likely both a surgery and genetic alteration, as they need to pass as male they must look male. However if thats the case there should be no reason why they couldn’t just do the genetic alteration and leave the child as underlying female
This would be like using super girl ( a kryptoian) to prove how we shouldn’t segregate men’s and women’s sports Beyond that it shows why we don’t use exceptions to make the rules.
Honestly, they think it's a big deal, but once they ask, "Can you do it?" I'm confident the entire argument will collapse. This issue is more about a difference in species than gender.
It's about the message of feminism we are trying to brainwash our women with. It's heart breaking when you take the red pill because our women aren't as strong as the men.
As fucked up with what this court wanted, they at least called this bullshit out cus she's a completely different species known to be much much stronger.
Since it was stated to be solid titanium,it would have not bent because there was no space to fill, and the energy applied would become really hot or simply shatter the thing
Her point was to show him that there are species of female that are strong, "A male of her species is stronger" yeah no Dip they are,but she still reshaped the alumi-The titanium cube wirh ease,meaning that not all females are weak Even if being strong withing her species is common,she is strong nonetheless and the moclan wasnt
The “point” is flawed though because she’s from a different species. That’s like me saying “human males aren’t capable of birth” and then you showing me a video of a male sea horse giving birth. It makes absolutely no sense
Like the other has stated, they are different species. It is like a human man and woman arguing and to prove that women are strong, the women brought a female gorilla to smash some rocks with her hands. It proves nothing. It only proves that gorilla are much stronger then human.
Did any of you wathc the whole episode? In the end they present a female Mocklan who wrote incognito the most popular poems an texts in the Mocklan society. With her outcoming she prooved that females can contribute to society. What a lot males here don't believe or don't want to believe...
So one out of billions, That's not proof, thats an exception to the rule... Lol Most importantly he said in their society. She is not part of their society. And why didn't blue shirt bend it.... Lol
I used to watch the bionic man as a child and in that 1970s tv show if he was put in jail and the bars were steel he could just bend the bars with his bionic arm and walk out but if the bars were TITANIUM he was not going anywhere, which was one of his limits. Its why the bionic dog was put in a titanium cell. She is stronger than the six million dollar man.
Now I'm ok with the chick being that strong, are the males of her species even stronger? And if so that's just freaking scary 😂........ I couldn't imagine her having an easy time with inter species romantic relationships...... How would she learn to gauge how rough is too rough?
I'm no geneticist but I'm damn sure they're different species and are capable of different feats. This is like asking a Chihuahua to be a Wolf, maybe they share some genetics but they're worlds apart
I love how she crumples the cube like an empty soda can, meaning that it is either full of air and thus not solid, or she just made a new element due to the pressure and nuclear fusion she created by molding and lowering the volume of a solid titanium block
I honestly love this. The whole point of this episode was to prove that females can do what males can. The one race believe in giving their female infants sex changes instead of letting them live as they are. The trial was so they could show how unethical this was. I'm Trans but I believe it should be the persons choice if they want to change. Not someone elses. 😊
To note, it’s a fictional species with a different species altogether than the females that they have and quite frankly the moment she leaves her planet after a long-term effect she starts acting more like every other week or female unfortunately, her strength only comes when you’re back on the planetunfortunately
For those who want a simpler example: Him: women are weak Her: Oh yeh lets have man fight a lioness barehanded *Man dies from lioness* Her: See women are strong…
Considering that Moclans are interplanetary, yes it is a gotcha. Also, there are weaker male moclans, which is also a gotcha. The argument "females weaker so female bad" has always been so, so dumb.
It was demonstrating that they hold the idea that all females are weak, but clearly there are females of a different species that are much stronger than them, and working well in a society. And in contrast, these females aren’t advocating for their erasure and saying they as a species are too weak to work in a modern industrial society. It’s to demonstrate that wanting strength to work is no reason to not allow beings to exist unaltered, especially without their consent.
@@radiorebel8223 yeah but thats still irrelevant though, showing a female from a different species being stronger isn’t showing them that females are stronger, it’s showing them that the other species is stronger, which inevitably doesn’t really help their case at all
@@zechariah22 "females weaker so females are worse at some things, or shouldn't do some things because they would put themselves or others in danger." Fixed it for you.
idk why they didn't just call out that the Moclan lawyers defense of the procedure is a bigger insult to Moclan society than anything Kelly could have said. His entire defense is "why would you want to raise a girl in THIS fucked up society!? Why would you want to put anyone through our misogyny, discrimination, and outright violence towards women?" I would have said "All i'm hearing is that it's not females that are the problem but your societies reaction to females." honestly i feel like that would have been a slam dunk to point out that his defense has nothing to do with what's best for the child but that Moclans have a terrible culture and it's the culture that's the problem
Women have their own strengths and purpose in society, just like men have their own strengths. Both genders complement both their weaknesses and strengths.
@kuchikopi4631 this show also pushed gender acceptance with one of the characters. They essentially pulled a uno reverse card on the whole transgender issue. While I agree we should embrace who God designed us to be, you can't twist it to warrant gender surgery and transitioning of children like what is presented in the show. I agree that the situation in the show is okay, but we have to admit that this whole transgender plot wouldn't be in the show at all if it didn't have to do with current politics. America has a tendency to push propoganda through its entertainment. For example, look at how many movies are starring a white character being played by someone who isn't white? The only reason they do that is because they like to make everything g about race instead of sticking to the original character in the story. The exceptions are if the character was created another race to begin with and the casting matches. Imagine if they had a white guy play black panther, the outrage would be insane.
To be honest, that wasn't exactly a sound argument considering that particular woman is of a completely different species, so therefore she technically lost that argument. Now I'm not saying that what she's saying was wrong. I'm just saying the argument doesn't make sense
True but at least that alien woman's species in both genders are capable for every physical work, even for such that could be dangerous 💁 so her species, both genders are capable to participate in industrilized factories
@finlandguy427 lol like humans it's not whether you can do the work it's about efficiency...the male of her species would crush that sphere with half the power she used...
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"The court will note that the woman is infact, an entirely different species"
Which lives on a different planet where beings are much stronger
Yeah wich is exactly why Its wrong to act as If every female=Just a female Like everyone Else.
There are differences within a gender great enough to differentiate
They say that in the show dw
Exactly
@@sophiebell4758 it was mentioned.. Moclan Society
Honestly it frustrating that they thought that was a good argument I’m just glad they got called on their bs
The female is a different species
And a member of one of the strongest species in that universe
Exactly 😂, not every species are the same.
Even in her strong species, the males are stronger than the females 😂
I think lawyers are supposed to make arguments even if there's a hole in the argument. not sure though
@@ScripulousFingore6133 Not arguments that are easily refuted.
This is a nod to the sixth Star Trek movie. When Kirk and McCoy are put on trial by the Klingons, the Judge's gavel was a heavy silver sphere.
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Buddy, this whole show is a nod to Star Trek, lol.
@@devinvia9655what’s the name of this show?
@@QasibrLook at the top of the clip
Yep, immedeatly thought the same thing.
In fairness to the show, the Moclan does immediately point out that their different species and the point is invalid
yep
Sustained your honor
He also made the point that a male of her species would still be stronger than her and could do it in half the time
Seems like this channel owner is a phee phail or a beeeeeta.
@@mysteryjunkie9808
True that.
Can't compare one species to another and expect the other species to be as strong as the other
it was pointed out dont worry
Yup it's like comparing a female Elephant to a female Giraffe. They're both large but one of them's heavier than the other and built like a d*mn wall. Different physiology, different results.
Women logical reasoning....
@@6justa6 women ☕
@@6justa6 its fiction and a man wrote it
"Male humans are incapable of flight"
"The tribunal will note this MALE Avianos was capable of flying, thus male humans can fly"
While I 100% agree, the guys quote wasn't "Moclan females are weak" and instead it was "Females are weak", the problem lies in his use syntax, they were simply responding to his generalized claim.
Omg one random woman has super strength that changes everything
😂 also that "woman" is an alien 🤷🏿♂️
Fr my exact thoughts 💀
But when you think about it, her species, even the females have the neccesary physical strength, heck a ten times more strength for every physical work where it would be dangerous for humans to do without the machinery 😂
😂😂
You couldn't sound more pathetic and jaded.
Wouldn’t this only work if the woman was a woman of the same race?
That's exactly what anybody with a brain is thinking. Cause if a man can't eat a knife but a female goat can it kinda just goes off to comparing a human to a goat
He does argue that point actually
Not race species
Technically yes, of course many Moclans were previously female...So if a transitioned female Moclan did something a naturally born male couldn't, its just a matter of biological enhancement, not necessarily sex.
Actually the guys quote wasn't "Moclan females are weak" and instead it was "Females are weak", the problem lies in his use syntax, they were simply responding to his generalized claim.
And he says later, rightfully so, that a male of the same species could do the same using half the power
yea
And yet the point is still nonsense...strength of any kind must be honed.
@@mistertea603if I took a DND Dragon....
And it crushed the bones of a human with ease... never having worked out or worked for that strength would you say it had to be honed?
Genetics will always be superior to effort.
No woman can train or work hard enough to beat a man in a physical fight of pure strength.
@@nolifeconsolegamerthere are some who can take out the lowest tiers of men. But generally at least for humans the males are usually stronger than the females. Idk if you can apply that to aliens though
@@nolifeconsolegamerYour comment on a woman in a fight with a man is not correct. If you take the average female MMA fighter and pit them against the average man, the man loses hands down. Not just in technique, but in raw strength. Now you take a man and a woman that have done the same workout, and suddenly its far more likely that the man would win.
"Look, this elephant female is stronger than human male, thats why human females are stronger!"
Yah it's not like biological males that are trans hold any edge over biological females,
@@user-qp6pz5gq4etrans athletes have to be on hormones in order to compete and one trans athlete that is paraded around to support your argument is actually a FtM trans that’s forced to compete against females rather than males.
Then maybe his quote should have been "Moclan females are weak" not "Females are weak"
"Solid Titanium"
Proceeds to crush it inwards as if it was filled with air.
I'll let the feat of strength slide if the actually made it believable by following the rules of physics. When you apply enough pressure on something solid, matter moves into space where it is no facing any pressure, even if she was strong enough to crush Titanium, it would have gushed out between her fingers and considering how brittle Titanium is, it would be powdered rather than becoming paste that is malleable enough to be reshaped.
shut up it’s a show for entertainment not physics. get a life
And the next moment moclan reveals that her species is notably strong due to their planet's gravity and the male counterpart of her(alara's) species is even stronger and could do the same thing in half as much time.
Lol they got burned
He asserts that would be the case. No evidence is provided. This was a bad argument but as unsupportef assertion is a bad response.
What kind of case is this supposed to be making?... "A female of our species would be inadequate for average work and life on a Moclan planet..." Some random alien woman from an entirely other species 'squishes cube'... "iVe mADe mY pOiNt"
This specific scene has a bad point but they make better points later. Such as their most beloved and highly praised writer happens to be a woman. Something no one on the planet knew.
Women can survive on their planet and do. It was just a bad example here.
because when you make that argument people just assume you mean "all" instead of "at the same level".
I love how reshaping the metal did not leave it hot... funny
I wouldnt be supprised, i used to work with titanium a lot even forging it from time to time and it cools very quickly. It was actually annoying to try and keep it hot! but even still titanium wouldnt of even reshaped the way she did, if you try and brute force titanium it doesnt deform it shatters so that would of been an even better agruement.
@HistoricalGeology56 you don't know the difference between of and have.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 its called slang doll, just because its proper for you doesn't mean everyone else speaks that way.
@@HistoricalGeology56 it's not slang. It's simply horrible typing because people are lazy and ignorant.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 lol, it is slang, just stop no one even cares anyway. Im done replying if you keep being negative
She just made a Moclan gavel into a Klingon gavel.....
But she is a different species. That would be like comparing the agility of a cheetah and an elephant.
When they cut it off before she gets absolutely owned 🤣
😂
Owned is exagerated. She made a claim/statement, it got refuted, they moved on to another point. It wasn't no huge mike drop owned moment.
Both sides made valid points, finally the side the woman is on made the strongest and truest argument that a moclan could be female and have a happy and fulfilling life by bringing a moclan female as a witness to provide testimony about her life and how she was proud to have been born female.
They only lost the legal battle, really, because of corruption within the moclan legal system and cultural indoctrination.
@@pianoman1718Nah, she got owned.
@pianoman1718 her point was directly refuted. Never said it was a mic drop, but she did get "absolutely owned". He entire point was proven invalid 🤣
@@clutchgaming9774 i didn't say it was literally a mic drop moment either. I said it was "no huge mic drop owned moment", i simply used mic drop to convey intensity/severity.
"Absolutely owned" conveys absolute defeat in the argument, total loss, which wasn't what happened. Her point was refuted, yes, but them she went on and made valid points, so did the moclans.
I think to say she got absolutely owned is simply an exaggeration of what actually happened, which you say likely because you agree with the point the moclans made directly after the clip.
She made an argument, they pointed out the holes in it and then they moved on to another point, they got just as much "owned" as she did throughout the trial, specifically when they could not refute that not all males are superior or even equal to the intelligence of all females when she presented gordon malloy.
My favorite part is the clearly hollow "solid" titanium.
Its because she's a solaren, and their planet has like 5x the gravity of earth. The funny part is that the male solarens are still stronger 🤣
Just imagine GOKU was always on Solaria. All the time. MIND BLOWING!!
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Yah u dont get feministic obsession on making women stronger than men. Learn biology goddamn. Just because you are physically weaker dosent mean you are necessarily inferior
Actually I think it is not 5 times but 10 or even over that.
Nice to see they cut the scene just before its pointed out she is from a planet with a much higher gravity and that the males of her species would be much stronger.
I don’t get why they thought that it was a good argument when it is a female of an entirely different species😂
Female lawyer, what can you expect🙄.
@@blondpanda6211I'm about to blow your mind:
Genitalia has nothing to do with a lawyer's level of skill😱
@@Hoppypoppy21 you say that, but the female lawyer made nothing but poor arguments, the male lawyer however made sense and won the case. Or do you think it’s an issue of skin color or hair? Pale and long hair is inferior to to brown and bald?
@@blondpanda6211 I think the female individual made a bad argument yes. That's because this individual is a bad lawyer. It doesn't have anything to do with the fact she's a female.
I'd also argue the male on the stand has a bad argument as well by just looking at physical strength. That is also unrelated to the fact he is a male.
@@blondpanda6211 Your initial comment said nothing about the show and only inferred female = bad lawyer. Keep trying to backtrack lol it's funny
Moral of story: Treat women fairly👍🏾💯
Btw consider titanium density, that blonde would have a bad time catching that titanium ball.
Shhhhhh your not meant to think of that
Titanium is relatively light for a metal, you are likely thinking of tungsten
@@_Labyrinth_despite how light it is,still very durable although i would not be surprised if a chunk of titanium was hard to catch
@@Zozz-tw9vn true, light and strong, possibly hard to catch, much easier to catch than tungsten
@@_Labyrinth_ or osmium LOL
Not saying Machlas was right, but Kelly’s defense is like saying Supergirl can bench press a mountain, but normal man can’t and that makes women just as equal as men can’t have someone super strength prove their stronger
It's kind of impossible to reshape Titanium because it's so brittle
That’s some BS logic.
Its best to judge peoples abilities not by their gender but by their capabilities.
But to be honest, the lady that could reshape the cube snd the guy that saod it was impossible were not the same species so this doesnt apply very well.
A point the prosecutor quickly made, also noting a male of her species would have been stronger.
It's a classic strawman argument.
I'm pretty sure he is talking about his own alien race😂😂
Its like the writes thought this could be a good argument, what they should've "tried" was to find a female of the SAME species to refute the point
@killerwolf58342 you haven't seen the show. The Moclon race (main species in the court room) are almost all male. Females are extremely rare and uncommon.
@@Hoppypoppy21 no, i have seen the show. And its not that they are rare, the are quite literally given sex changing operations at a young age or i think it was not ti long after birth
@@killerwolf58342 then you should know it would be impossible to compare the strength of a moclon female like you suggested since they are all sex changed. That would make even less sense story wise
@@Hoppypoppy21 yup, so this entire thing would be difficult to point out to a militarist ideological group such as the moclans. It would be like if you wanted to show that humans are the strongest species but you have superman as your spokesperson. Its not a fair comparison.
Now if they shpwed the difference between the genders of what ever her name was on her planet, than it would be a fair comparison and argument. Or even if the two different gendered humans had essentially a fitness battle and did like push ups and the loke vs each orher, than maybe it woulda been more fair.
Love how he says moclan theres none in thier society and she gives the cube to a different species so point kinda invalid
Feminism actually works with a lot of special effects.
Okay incel
Yeah pretty much, they get so focused on claiming we are the same when we are so different
Thing is this clip doesn’t even work or make sense. She’s not the same species as him
@@EduardoFlores-bt4fo not every body is the sane as you
Thats a great point,for whatever reason feminism only works in movies
Bruh she is different species
Duh
Ahhh yes, comparing two different species with different capabilities. Especially strength wise.
I don't think people understand the scene. They're not arguing that women are stronger than men. The thesis here is "please don't forcibly sex change the only Moclan girl."
We understand the scene. It's just a poorly written point that this part of the scene is making. A Moclan girl would still be weaker than a male, and Alara's strength is irrelevant.
Is it forceful? Honestly I'm not sure but in this situation nothing was forceful. Except them trying to make the doctor do the surgery.
@Lucci136 Moclans do sex change on any female Moclan babies. Borus wanted his daughter to chose for herself whether she wanted to be a male or female but his husband wanted to have the sex change against their wish, thus forcibly doing the sex change
Happy to see people understand she is not the same species.
Everyone seems to have missed the moral of this scene, proving both men and women are dumb. Everyone, everything has a strength and weakness. It’s collaborative efforts that make true strength. Borrow what you lack from your surroundings. Life 101
I've seen the actress who plays Alara in a lot of movies since this show, and she actually looks younger here. She doesn't seem to age either. Love her in everything I've seen her in.
Y'all are missing the point. He was calling all females weak, and she proved that there are strong females.
It doesn't matter if she is from a strong species bc he was claiming that every female was weak
Yes, the males of her species are probably stronger, but that doesn't make the females weak
yes it does, the female of the species are the weaker gender...... not a strong female, a strong ALIEN. also weakness could be portrayed via mental or emotional stability. how determined you are, or capable. etc. the vice captains point is moot. now the actual female moclans are strong in character FOR SURE. a way better representation then this
pony show.
Actually, we really have no idea if the females would be stronger or weaker. In mammals for example, females are almost always stronger than their male counterpart. Humans are the exception, not the rule.
@@zechariah22 what are you talking about it is basically a 50/50 split for mammals when it comes to size and weight as for strength that often leans male in those species where size is all but identical female to male.
So, statistically if you were to compare this, it would be like comparing an average human with Wonder woman from DC, but yeah i get your point but the way of proving it was totally wrong
Brother you just made his point if they are weaker than they are by definition weak plain and simple. They would have needed to find a species that only the women are strong to prove their point what she did was prove his.
The strongest woman is stronger than a lot of people, but the strongest man is stronger than everyone.
Judge: oooh could you do that again? I got like three others and the whole cube thing wasn’t really working for me.
"This female rhino can crush a watermelon with its foot. Therefore, a female human should be able to as well." Mcfarlan is a good writer sometimes, but this is not one of those times.
It worked because it's a fantasy.
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And that's what we call science fiction comedy.
There from diff species tho
This would be a valid point if the males of her species weren't stronger than her. All this really proved was that her species was very strong, on account of the strong gravity of their home planet.
If the titanium was solid, she shouldn't have been able to shape it like it was hollow.
She could have molecularly smooshed it
This fictional scenario with fictional characters of fictional races are a perfect allegory for gender equality!
Stunning and brave
"Oh my lords a member of a species known for its immense strength is strong? Inconceivable"
"show me a male in this room that can do the same"
Xelayan guy on the back row stands up with a smile on his face.
Shes a different creature tho
She proved his statement wrong, he said females are weak, he did not clarify and say moclan females are weak, so it’s open for a female of any species to prove him wrong, the argument is justified.
Why would the sex change effect strength unless the sex change comes with a direct gene augmentation, but they repeatedly portray it as a surgery…
Exactly what I was thinking. This would make their statement nonsense by the mere surgery portrayal. If it is just a surgery, then you would think they would be able to spot the adjusted female moclans, but it seems like they blend in with the solely male moclans very easily.
@@radiorebel8223 Kliden was female, and somehow that didn’t stop him and Bortus from having Topa… maybe the surgery includes actual addition of testosterone/sperm creation in the body that somehow works as a perfect function for procreation…?
Because if sex is changed at a young age then they develop as male, the chemicals produced that make males stronger would then in turn make the child stronger, like in humans, testosterone is a chemical that is produced more in males, and its what makes people strong, it builds muscle, and since men have more testosterone, they can on average build more muscle.
As well this is likely both a surgery and genetic alteration, as they need to pass as male they must look male.
However if thats the case there should be no reason why they couldn’t just do the genetic alteration and leave the child as underlying female
It's a magic space transition?
This would be like using super girl ( a kryptoian) to prove how we shouldn’t segregate men’s and women’s sports
Beyond that it shows why we don’t use exceptions to make the rules.
Of a different species.
Sound of cube hitting desk comes before cube actually hits desk! 😮🇬🇧🌈♥️
This actualy doesn’t prove anythibg, they’re two different species
Honestly, they think it's a big deal, but once they ask, "Can you do it?" I'm confident the entire argument will collapse. This issue is more about a difference in species than gender.
Argument was destroyed once the he said on their planet a male version is stronger and their lvl of gravity
Keep in mind this is science fiction folks. There are no humans in existence with that kind of strength.
The video cut before he could say that her planet has more gravity and a male on that planet is stronger than a female on that planet
It's about the message of feminism we are trying to brainwash our women with. It's heart breaking when you take the red pill because our women aren't as strong as the men.
He generalized and said "female's are weak" not that his own species females are weak so her point still stands.
That titanium would be hot as shit!
i like the fact that the person who made the video made de perfect cut.
As fucked up with what this court wanted, they at least called this bullshit out cus she's a completely different species known to be much much stronger.
I loved the side glance Alara gave while reshaping the cube.
That cube turned into a sphere would have been red hot
Ehhhh titanium cools real quick the bigger issue is it didn’t turn into a powder or shatter
Since it was stated to be solid titanium,it would have not bent because there was no space to fill, and the energy applied would become really hot or simply shatter the thing
This is what happens when people use writers and science fiction programs to make real world arguments.
Her point was to show him that there are species of female that are strong, "A male of her species is stronger" yeah no Dip they are,but she still reshaped the alumi-The titanium cube wirh ease,meaning that not all females are weak
Even if being strong withing her species is common,she is strong nonetheless and the moclan wasnt
Different species tho. Would have made more sense if it was a member of his species
The “point” is flawed though because she’s from a different species. That’s like me saying “human males aren’t capable of birth” and then you showing me a video of a male sea horse giving birth. It makes absolutely no sense
Like the other has stated, they are different species. It is like a human man and woman arguing and to prove that women are strong, the women brought a female gorilla to smash some rocks with her hands. It proves nothing. It only proves that gorilla are much stronger then human.
Again female and their - need to be right.
@@Zonee1328then don’t lump all women in a single category
Woman and men have different strengths and abilities, but that doesn’t mean one is inferior or superior to other.
Hollywood fantasy
Different types of Aliens, and no shit it's a fantasy it's fiction.
@@DannyShreve FR 😂😂😂
Thank you, Mr. Obvious.
3x3x3 cube of solid titanium requires 40,000 tons of pressure to be squished with ease...
I remember this. They had a point here... if they were the same species.
Women making bad arguments, again, next they will say "Who hurt you"
That is the worst argument they could of possibly gone with
Did any of you wathc the whole episode? In the end they present a female Mocklan who wrote incognito the most popular poems an texts in the Mocklan society. With her outcoming she prooved that females can contribute to society. What a lot males here don't believe or don't want to believe...
So one out of billions,
That's not proof, thats an exception to the rule... Lol
Most importantly he said in their society. She is not part of their society.
And why didn't blue shirt bend it.... Lol
Damn!
Thats a strong independent women!
I mean different species have different strength
The writers had to create fictional species to win this argument
Reshaping that titanium block would generate lots of heat, why nobody thought of it, lol😂
Finally someone. Thank god
Dude it's family guy in space chill
I used to watch the bionic man as a child and in that 1970s tv show if he was put in jail and the bars were steel he could just bend the bars with his bionic arm and walk out but if the bars were TITANIUM he was not going anywhere, which was one of his limits. Its why the bionic dog was put in a titanium cell. She is stronger than the six million dollar man.
Now I'm ok with the chick being that strong, are the males of her species even stronger? And if so that's just freaking scary 😂........ I couldn't imagine her having an easy time with inter species romantic relationships...... How would she learn to gauge how rough is too rough?
All her relationships failed and then she went back to her planet were do to high gravity everyone is just like a regular human
"wonder woman could you reshape it?"
"see? It's totaly easy"
I'm no geneticist but I'm damn sure they're different species and are capable of different feats.
This is like asking a Chihuahua to be a Wolf, maybe they share some genetics but they're worlds apart
I love how she crumples the cube like an empty soda can, meaning that it is either full of air and thus not solid, or she just made a new element due to the pressure and nuclear fusion she created by molding and lowering the volume of a solid titanium block
I honestly love this. The whole point of this episode was to prove that females can do what males can. The one race believe in giving their female infants sex changes instead of letting them live as they are. The trial was so they could show how unethical this was. I'm Trans but I believe it should be the persons choice if they want to change. Not someone elses. 😊
To note, it’s a fictional species with a different species altogether than the females that they have and quite frankly the moment she leaves her planet after a long-term effect she starts acting more like every other week or female unfortunately, her strength only comes when you’re back on the planetunfortunately
For those who want a simpler example:
Him: women are weak
Her: Oh yeh lets have man fight a lioness barehanded
*Man dies from lioness*
Her: See women are strong…
The judge: _my gavel thingy ☹️_
Haha thats an alien from a tv show wtf lol
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Was showing a non mocklans strength when talking about mocklan society supposed to be a gotcha? Yea lets use a dog to illustrate how weak cats are.
Considering that Moclans are interplanetary, yes it is a gotcha. Also, there are weaker male moclans, which is also a gotcha. The argument "females weaker so female bad" has always been so, so dumb.
It was demonstrating that they hold the idea that all females are weak, but clearly there are females of a different species that are much stronger than them, and working well in a society. And in contrast, these females aren’t advocating for their erasure and saying they as a species are too weak to work in a modern industrial society. It’s to demonstrate that wanting strength to work is no reason to not allow beings to exist unaltered, especially without their consent.
@@radiorebel8223 yeah but thats still irrelevant though, showing a female from a different species being stronger isn’t showing them that females are stronger, it’s showing them that the other species is stronger, which inevitably doesn’t really help their case at all
@@zechariah22 "females weaker so females are worse at some things, or shouldn't do some things because they would put themselves or others in danger."
Fixed it for you.
@@zechariah22 smh 🤦 that was not his argument..
I mean he still ain't wrong
Strongest girl can't beat the strongest guy.
It's like someone saying "Earthling women don't have enough strength", then to prove otherwise someone calls a Saiyan woman
Post the full part, where he says that the male counterpart in her species are more stronger than her.
This is like comparin an ant to an gorilla.
idk why they didn't just call out that the Moclan lawyers defense of the procedure is a bigger insult to Moclan society than anything Kelly could have said. His entire defense is "why would you want to raise a girl in THIS fucked up society!? Why would you want to put anyone through our misogyny, discrimination, and outright violence towards women?" I would have said "All i'm hearing is that it's not females that are the problem but your societies reaction to females." honestly i feel like that would have been a slam dunk to point out that his defense has nothing to do with what's best for the child but that Moclans have a terrible culture and it's the culture that's the problem
Then the male came and turned the women in the ball.
Women have their own strengths and purpose in society, just like men have their own strengths.
Both genders complement both their weaknesses and strengths.
This is just another way for the entertainment industry to push feminism.
Not really, this is just a short clip from that episode. Doesn't get the full picture at all.
@kuchikopi4631 this show also pushed gender acceptance with one of the characters. They essentially pulled a uno reverse card on the whole transgender issue. While I agree we should embrace who God designed us to be, you can't twist it to warrant gender surgery and transitioning of children like what is presented in the show. I agree that the situation in the show is okay, but we have to admit that this whole transgender plot wouldn't be in the show at all if it didn't have to do with current politics. America has a tendency to push propoganda through its entertainment. For example, look at how many movies are starring a white character being played by someone who isn't white? The only reason they do that is because they like to make everything g about race instead of sticking to the original character in the story. The exceptions are if the character was created another race to begin with and the casting matches. Imagine if they had a white guy play black panther, the outrage would be insane.
Idk why they even believed this argument would fly 😅
To be honest, that wasn't exactly a sound argument considering that particular woman is of a completely different species, so therefore she technically lost that argument. Now I'm not saying that what she's saying was wrong. I'm just saying the argument doesn't make sense
True but at least that alien woman's species in both genders are capable for every physical work, even for such that could be dangerous 💁 so her species, both genders are capable to participate in industrilized factories
@@finlandguy427depends on the species. Women of both species are weaker compared to the male species counterpart
@finlandguy427 lol like humans it's not whether you can do the work it's about efficiency...the male of her species would crush that sphere with half the power she used...
@@monty.e.5531industrial efficiency shouldn’t be more important than your right to exist
@@hughjness2555you still exist your sex is just changed.
Her arguments were dumb, but good thing they learned a lesson in the end.