Shunting - Derail Valley: Overhauled - Ep 2

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024
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  • @davefuelling7955
    @davefuelling7955 Год назад +2

    Getting the Shunting license early is a must. What I do is every time I enter a new station, after I drop off the cars I brought there, I do all of the shunting jobs. That builds up your cash quicker. After I finish the shunting jobs, I look at what freight and logistics jobs are going to the next station and I take them. BTW, you had to drop off cars in C and G. Since G was closer, you should have dropped them first. Just break the train at the points going to G and leave the C cars there until you drop at G and then come back for them.

  • @pootmahgoots8482
    @pootmahgoots8482 Год назад +81

    What I usually end up doing is I buy the shunting license first and do all the shunting jobs at every location and then I'll usually start working on buying my locos and so on. Usually makes for a smooth progression and starting out with shunting helps teach you how to control your loco and train and gets the muscle memory down on braking and starting out.

    • @BadWebDiver
      @BadWebDiver Год назад +8

      That's what I would do too. Shunting seems the most fun to start with.

    • @ElderonAnalas
      @ElderonAnalas Год назад +6

      yeah, i like getting the shunting and logistics licenses, and just doing the sawmill lines and stuff, take logs to the sawmill, unload them, rebuild the consist, then take the empty cars back to the forest and repeat, until it has nothing but, take cut wood to somewhere else.

    • @berkangursoy
      @berkangursoy 8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the good advice

  • @andrewframe8046
    @andrewframe8046 Год назад +3

    14:38 So what I typically do is I'll slam on the train brake to get the train to stop, but then I'll release it almost immediately and by the time the train has rolled to a stop, the air is mostly recharged by that point. Then, if it turns out a little bit more braking is needed, the independent is more than sufficient.

  • @zengrath
    @zengrath Год назад +19

    This gives me so much nostalgia even though it was just 4 years ago I played this a lot when i got my VR. Not enough to pick up and play, takes too much time to play this, but man it was a experience I won't forget. There is something satisfying about figuring out the logistics of the shunting and multiple jobs, figuring out direct you need to be facing, which cars to load/unload in what order and all that stuff.

  • @ReinaldoRauch
    @ReinaldoRauch Год назад +9

    A tip when shunting to get more jobs to take away: do the loading ones first as they will free the storage lines and will make doing the unload jobs more easier to get the bonuses

    • @UltraNoobian
      @UltraNoobian 10 месяцев назад

      250 hours in the game and didn't think of that, Thanks!

  • @MXVDJ
    @MXVDJ Год назад +6

    im obsessed with this series, it has a cosy feeling.

  • @wisquatuk
    @wisquatuk Год назад +1

    One tip about shunting: If the game put your consist together, it will always arrange things so that the final shunting job has you putting cars away in discrete “blocks”, i.e. the last 5 cars of the train go to track A, the next 3 cars go to track B, etc.
    However, if YOU put your train together - i.e. if you shunted a train to load it, you delivered it, and now you’re shunting to unload it - all bets are off. Unless you followed the first shunting directions to the letter, and ended up with a train in EXACTLY the order it demanded (which may involve turning some sections around to match the intended car order), you’re going to have a bad time if you try to shunt it at the destination. It may effectively require you to deposit two cars in A, then a car in B, then three more cars in A, then another two cars in B, etc etc, all because you built the train in an order it didn’t expect.
    For this reason, I generally always choose to either shunt at the source or shunt at the destination, NOT both. (However, I do need to check if this has been addressed in the Simulator patch.)

  • @LordGadwin
    @LordGadwin Год назад +1

    Great guides by the way. And I found the shunting missions are great for teaching you the yards and how they're laid out.

  • @DNHarris
    @DNHarris Год назад +10

    Well done and organized explanatory video. Squirrel is the Cliffs Notes of the video game industry.

  • @dgwdgw
    @dgwdgw Год назад +69

    Re the intro calling Simulator a name change: I'd characterize it as a _version_ instead. The current _version_ that you recorded for this series is "Overhauled", and the next _version_ will be called "Simulator". The game is still sold as "Derail Valley". Altfuture just chose to name their big updates rather than numbering them like e.g. Satisfactory did.

    • @ArjanSchaeffer
      @ArjanSchaeffer Год назад

      It did confuse me for a sec indeed. I am looking into buying it if the Simulator version hits favourable reviews, and I was definitely looking into whether it would be the same game on Steam or a new one. So thank you for your comment.

    • @Sweetw4ter
      @Sweetw4ter Год назад

      @@ArjanSchaeffer Buy it, it is a fantastic change!

    • @ArjanSchaeffer
      @ArjanSchaeffer Год назад +3

      @@Sweetw4ter I actually have, yesterday... binged it for 4 hours straight in the evening and can't wait to come home from work today

  • @TheTouras
    @TheTouras Год назад +6

    I've put about 10 hours into this playthrough I would say a good 50% of my total cash is shunting jobs. I do love the puzzle aspect of shunting.
    It is also really handy for learning the towns and which switch is where etc so when you haul a 3-4 job train in you know where to go.

  • @Mike-James
    @Mike-James Год назад +3

    When I worked for BR as a freight Guard, we would sometime work in a local small goods yard as it would take them onto the mainline at times as they shunted the wagons around the yard.

  • @Fallub
    @Fallub Год назад +12

    I love this series already. I can’t wait for more episodes. Thank you Squirrel.

  • @St4ticBloodLust
    @St4ticBloodLust Год назад +8

    i don't think i would ever play a lot of the games you show but love learning the thought process and how to stream line things. makes me more motived in other aspects of life to do the same.

  • @hartekunst554
    @hartekunst554 Год назад +2

    Squirrel: purchases a license for 10k $$$
    Also Squirrel: throws it in the trash immediately after.

  • @beepboop1569
    @beepboop1569 Год назад +8

    before you have the remote if you back up to hook to other cars you can just stand in the back of your train while backing and open the brakevalve on the last car to stop. it takes a bit of practice to find the right moment but it's quite handy. you don't have to be in the loco at all

  • @Munkeh102
    @Munkeh102 Год назад +7

    Enjoying this series, looking forward to more. Picked up the game after episode one to play in VR, great fun.

  • @4lf1e
    @4lf1e Год назад +54

    We need a squirrel logistics mod for this game

  • @erichsteinhausen9515
    @erichsteinhausen9515 Год назад +1

    This content is absolutely great! Can't wait to watch more and see where this is going. Thank you!

  • @testi2025
    @testi2025 Год назад +6

    I always look for the shunting job that is the one I just delivered. I have the train connected already so it’s really easy to do.

    • @poilboiler
      @poilboiler Год назад +3

      Locomotive sized brain move right there.

    • @lottievixen
      @lottievixen Год назад

      same imo best way to do it

  • @slimjim8421
    @slimjim8421 Год назад +12

    Love this series it would be great if you could carry it on

    • @DNHarris
      @DNHarris Год назад +5

      Why carry it when you can just put it on a flatbed rail car? ;D

  • @chez6459
    @chez6459 Год назад +1

    I didn't do any shunting with my playthrough as I had understood controlling the Loco quickly and as such I had purchased licenses rapidly and even got to the point where I felt so confident that I linked up 4 shutters together, all synced and had a similar payload capacity of the de6 and used the de2 due to its cheaper running costs. I was even hauling the heaviest loads with 4 de2s just fine, it just took organization and planning to get the loads set up and to the destination safely

    • @thatoneguy611
      @thatoneguy611 Год назад +1

      But is that really cheaper in the end?

  • @ArtyI
    @ArtyI Год назад +2

    Weight wise, I have a pretty good time just manually using multiple units. It's a bit easier in VR, but especially for the shunter it's nice bringing a second unit with you

  • @martonbevardi2503
    @martonbevardi2503 Год назад +3

    This is why you need a shunting team or at least a shunting coordinator. You have no idea how close you are to the end of the track or to other cars most of the time.

  • @ReinaldoRauch
    @ReinaldoRauch Год назад

    A tip when leaving cars in tracks: you usually can leave them halfway forward the plaque indicating the track line so it will count to the job and not interfere with other tracks besides it

  • @harmer4245
    @harmer4245 Год назад +2

    Nicely done, Paul. Some great tips for maximizing income. I must admit I have played this at a more leisurely pace and it has obviously cost me. A tip for the VR users, the shelf to the right of the instrument panel is a handy place for the maps, jobs etc., with not being able to see the keyboard. I still can't shake that eerie feeling of being the only person in the Valley world though. 😁

  • @Sithhy
    @Sithhy Год назад +1

    Really enjoyable video series, can't wait for more videos to come

  • @Gloom-Grave
    @Gloom-Grave Год назад

    These were very good tips, especially that I can save the fees if I have several orders with the same locomotive without having to pay everything directly.

  • @samuelcurtis4247
    @samuelcurtis4247 Год назад +2

    Playing Derail Valley as I watch this, hope this turns into a series. Wasn't paying attention and bought the concurrent jobs by accident , really hurts the wallet!

  • @ThatGuyKal
    @ThatGuyKal Год назад +1

    I always like to go for Multiple Unit early on, Makes it easier when using multiple shunters at the start.

    • @squirrel
      @squirrel  Год назад +2

      Largely depends how experienced you are with the game. If you’re reasonably skilled then you can operate the front cab and remote control the one behind. If you’re a veteran you can jump between the two cabs and still keep it together. Try a double DE2 heavy haul east out of Harbor with no MU licence or remote. It’s fun 😊

  • @The_Entity
    @The_Entity Год назад

    Randomly bought this game the other day as a suggestion from my brother. Which is odd for me as i dont like trains. I know nothing about trains and generally find it a bit too nerdy, even for me.
    That being said this game is brilliant fun. The complex systems, planning and thought required even to do a simple freight or shunting job is just so satisfying.
    Also tgese squirrel vids are amazing at helping non train newbies like me not get frustrated with it all.

  • @Dinkleberg96
    @Dinkleberg96 Год назад

    9:10 that's actually wrong.... the train will still be there but the job wont be available to be accepted. It will say "job expired" when u try to accept it on the job manager machine

  • @FerrybigGaming
    @FerrybigGaming Год назад

    23:11 Your brake pipe light is lighting up. You make a mistake with the brake pipe somewhere (this check is not realistically made, so even a closed valve wil trigger this check)

  • @RobBroers
    @RobBroers Год назад +1

    Very interesting video; I learned a lot. Thanks for explaining!
    Don’t we have to disconnect the cars before running back to the order validator to receive our money?

  • @ace_50840
    @ace_50840 Год назад

    Love that your playing derail valley again.

  • @richardchantlerrico
    @richardchantlerrico Год назад

    Hey Squirrel,
    Why are you sitting in the cab and not on the wagons controlling the train?
    No I don't mean with a remote.
    - Get the train moving flick it into neutral so it coasts then TP to the wagon that your decoupling.
    - Close the valves on both ends of the break pipe and disconnect the pipes / coupler - the train will keep rolling.
    - Open the valve of the locomotive end of the train to stop it before the points then ride the wagons your delivering to their destination opening the valve to stop them when at the right spot.
    - TP back to the train which you stopped before the points, close the break valve and then TP to engine and continue without losing time backing up.
    Bonus points if you close the valve after the rest of the train stops while riding the delivery wagons to save a TP on the way back.

  • @1over137
    @1over137 Год назад

    I think this stuff works in reality. Consider "Ship Owners Insurance". Ships which haul cargo's worth 100s of millions and cost millions to make the trip, netting million of profit.... or potentially many hundreds of thousands in fees, late fees, customs fees, legal fees, delays etc. etc. etc. All not-unexpected costs, but still not routine. So insurance companies exist that for a handsome monthly rate will insure your contract penalty clauses based on the risk they feel you (as a company or individual) have in completing them with or without fees. If they think you are just starting out and will incur a lot of fees, it probably won't be worth insuring on either side. If you have been running a logistics company for decades, the fee might be relatively low and maybe only slightly more than the amount of fees you do end up paying.

    • @1over137
      @1over137 Год назад

      A logistics company who nets $1 million profit from a freight run might run into fees for the 6 containers containing 2 supercars each that fell off in the storm. $2 million in damage/loss fees. The insurance pays that out. Your monthly premium rises. If you continue to mess up and your standards slip, the number of claims rises, so does your monthly insurance and... it becomes unecomonical for you to operate and game over. As it should operate, a rather dodgy logisitics company just went out of business.

  • @dude2783
    @dude2783 Год назад

    Flipping the reverser while moving would actually blow out the traction motors on a normal engine :D hehehe. The spark show is pretty awesome I hear though :)

  • @RottenJeeves
    @RottenJeeves Год назад

    Loving the series Squirrel. Looking forward to the update.

  • @KG-xt4oq
    @KG-xt4oq Год назад

    Just wondering...that little 'trick' you showed in regards to taking the job packet with you out of the station (9:20)...is it possible to hang on to a job packet, grab the shunter and cars needed for the job, then drive to destination and stop something like 10-20 meters from destination point, put job packet in machine to accept job, then move the train the 10-20 meters to final spot, then validate job/finish job so that it would look like it only took 1 minute and get max time bonus money?

    • @squirrel
      @squirrel  Год назад

      I believe you cannot activate the job if the cars are removed from the starting area

    • @KG-xt4oq
      @KG-xt4oq Год назад

      @@squirrel Ah, ok. I'm going to buy this game even though my PC probably can't run it very well...want to get it before the price goes up.

    • @LazyBoot
      @LazyBoot Год назад

      ​@@squirrel At least for jobs going to a different area (harbor to steel mill, for example) you can move the cars around the harbor all you want. So building your train before accepting jobs is quite OK.
      That said, removing the cars from the harbor without accepting the job will not work. I'm not quite sure how that works with shunting jobs though.

  • @bobingabout
    @bobingabout Год назад

    Completing a Shunting unloading job can also generate jobs, it's just that they're logistic haul jobs, rather than freight haul jobs.

  • @DanLarsen1985
    @DanLarsen1985 Год назад +1

    Fantastic Video as always! But the Logistic jobs 1 you have to have concurrent job 1 as a prerequisite. So your copay will increase quite a bit before you can do those jobs unfortunately.

  • @jacobpfeifertrains1998
    @jacobpfeifertrains1998 Год назад

    Illl get the train going a good clip when i shove and then stand on the back and dump air to stop it where i want it. Some cars are easier then others to do it on.

  • @byrd203
    @byrd203 Год назад

    If you tap the break twice then release it will slow you right down without stopping but if you tap it 3 or more then release it will stop you but be released by the time you stop if you go full on full off I learned that in this game do train breaks by timing

  • @sweetlemonade123
    @sweetlemonade123 Год назад +1

    I really want to play this game again, but waiting for the promised update. Not sure how much more to wait...

  • @meneldil7604
    @meneldil7604 Год назад +1

    not wathced your videos for ages this game look awsome

  • @trainmanj
    @trainmanj Год назад

    I haven't seen this game for a while, I'm glad you're taking up a series on it. I wish it was available for Apple OS.

  • @fredpryde8555
    @fredpryde8555 Год назад

    the fees are cheaper as well if you go to loco shed repair point and do the filling etc yourself

  • @billybean8911
    @billybean8911 Год назад +1

    I love watching these videos more more more please

  • @Welgeldiguniekalias
    @Welgeldiguniekalias Год назад

    If you are going to reverse, would using the train brakes to come to a full stop not cause less wear on the locomotive, compared to slamming it in reverse while still moving forward?

    • @aaronbenjamin2
      @aaronbenjamin2 Год назад +1

      For some reason I can't bring myself to change reverser before the loco has stopped. Also I expect the break pipes to fly off toward me everytime I split them, and going under the buffers to couple gives me weird anxiety 🤷‍♂️ I am in VR tho 😉

  • @nerdydrew6818
    @nerdydrew6818 Год назад +1

    I’ve only just noticed that when he printed the concurrent 1 license it said it also removes rerailing discount 😮

  • @Dan_Gyros
    @Dan_Gyros Год назад

    hype, squirrel is still back!

  • @tbone121974
    @tbone121974 Год назад +1

    I like the look of derail valley. What I don't like is jumping around. To me it breaks immersion and makes it a little difficult to watch when a lot of jumping is done.

    • @squirrel
      @squirrel  Год назад

      I get what you’re saying. You can just run around too. Teleporting is a thing brought over from its VR roots. You don’t have to do it but it’s a lot quicker.

  • @charlesufarley5962
    @charlesufarley5962 Год назад +1

    16:33 that's Not true to Real Life you would want first to drop off cars at the front near the Lead unit as that the Brakeman doesn't need to walk a mile back to uncouple a car or two, it's also easier to deal with a shorter consist than a longer especially when dealing with slack, it's just a matter of how you stage your mainline freight before uncoupling from FACT! Real Life Railroader has better knowledge than typical citizen on how to Proform certain tasks at hand, take it from me what you think is right is actually all wrong. Yes, the Game mechanics are different from Real Life but the Core heart of how things are done isn't. These insights give Real Life workers a huge advantage when playing this game, a Real-Life Boater isn't going to know better than a Pilot how to land a plane No!

  • @anthonyoconnor6633
    @anthonyoconnor6633 Год назад

    this is going to help me thank you

  • @enacherobert1068
    @enacherobert1068 Год назад

    Love the game, love the content❤ keep the series going man

  • @hadynmcloughlin4661
    @hadynmcloughlin4661 Год назад

    Quick question as a beginner - looking at the pieces of paper for the jobs on the desk the 'green colour' coded ones are the only ones available for the current train without looking at them all or is that just a coincidence?

  • @Izmael1310
    @Izmael1310 Год назад

    Really enjoying this. Looking forward to buy this game, but first I want to get some first hand experience by looking you play the game :)

  • @shodan6401
    @shodan6401 Год назад

    Hi Mate, love your channel. I immediately subscribed when I found it.
    Watching your series on Derail Valley.. You mention that people make mods for this game - do people generally make their own maps, or is that kind of mod too large and mods are generally adding different Locos and cars?
    Sure I'll have more questions, but right now I'm really enjoying watching. Thanks!

  • @Hosenfuhrer
    @Hosenfuhrer Год назад

    While you mentioned that certain shunting jobs may create freight haul jobs, can certain logistic hauls then create shunting jobs?

  • @Niegezien
    @Niegezien Год назад +5

    I kind of dislike that games seems to "punish" you for getting licenses, i dont want to make money , just chill :P

    • @machintrucGaming
      @machintrucGaming Год назад +3

      If you're speaking about the copay, by the time you reach a license where copay increase is a problem, you won't care about copay already. You only realistically care about copay until you get manual service license.

    • @huntingclarkson7096
      @huntingclarkson7096 Год назад

      Once the version comes out they will have a sandbox mode

    • @Niegezien
      @Niegezien Год назад

      @@huntingclarkson7096 ah good thats nice

    • @Niegezien
      @Niegezien Год назад

      ​@@machintrucGaming You are probably right in that. Its just that, when you buy a license at a wrong time, you kinda screw yourself over

    • @Jehty_
      @Jehty_ Год назад +1

      @@Niegezien if you just want to play without money you could give yourself a fortune with cheat engine.

  • @Satoog
    @Satoog Год назад

    Awesome, thanks!

  • @bishwadeepdas4635
    @bishwadeepdas4635 Год назад

    "19 thousands dollars is not a lot of money: -squirrel

  • @maniacmatt7340
    @maniacmatt7340 10 месяцев назад

    My biggest mistake was buying license for longer trains trying to get to the dh4 so i can haul easier. Oh boy have my jobs become hardly profitable. Also shunting at GF is pretty awful when they are all in 2 tracks lol

  • @orangeman2100
    @orangeman2100 Год назад

    what happens if you take a job you don't have a license for do you get fined?

    • @Frankestein01nl
      @Frankestein01nl Год назад

      As soon as you put the job into the computer to start it, it'll deny you the job because of the license missing. There will be no fine, but it's funny seeing the machine spit out a piece of paper saying so.

  • @Travelinmatt1976
    @Travelinmatt1976 Год назад

    I would have uncoupled the last 4 cars before G and backed in to drop off the G cars, then picked up the C cars and took them to C

  • @Acowonabike
    @Acowonabike 4 месяца назад

    I play it in vr but it wont let me turn the pages on anything how do u turn the pages

  • @Hmuda
    @Hmuda Год назад

    Damn, I wish I discovered this just a month earlier. I see the price was upped recently. :(

  • @crooker2
    @crooker2 Год назад

    I get so confused because I'm in Steel mill to move cars around but I get turned around and end up facing the wrong direction. Oi. You really need to plan things out dun'ya?

  • @da-hicksta9550
    @da-hicksta9550 Год назад

    i cant wait till multiplayer

  • @FacundoLagresta-y2u
    @FacundoLagresta-y2u 4 месяца назад +1

    ALCO RSD EMD G22 ARGENENO 668b C51 ALL TBA NCA LSM FEPSA COMSA NCA como tú eras Cerro Sur Cómo está la ferro Sur Cómo está la Argentina 319 2024

  • @123aleycat
    @123aleycat Год назад

    Could you do something on steam locos next? They require a special touch!

  • @Lenixionthegreat
    @Lenixionthegreat Год назад

    I really want to play this game again but I refuse to load it until the update drops.

    • @hugoslr
      @hugoslr Год назад

      30th of june it is then

    • @Lenixionthegreat
      @Lenixionthegreat Год назад

      @Hugo S Heck yeah I saw that the other day, just hope the wait will be worth it.

  • @piggybaggy242
    @piggybaggy242 Год назад +1

    Intresting

  • @Beertje21
    @Beertje21 Год назад

    Bro just use the train brake omg

  • @TheGemmaster22
    @TheGemmaster22 Год назад

    Buys liscense immediatly throws it in trash

  • @johnsnow1355
    @johnsnow1355 Год назад

    In the real world cars and engine's have hand brakes that have to be applied and released everytime u stop and park a train or disconnected a car from the train. Too bad this game skips over that simple fact.

    • @Tropingenie
      @Tropingenie Год назад

      Check the "Derail Valley Simulator - Handbrake" short 😉

    • @hugoslr
      @hugoslr Год назад

      it's literally one of the main features of the new update...

    • @johnsnow1355
      @johnsnow1355 Год назад

      @@hugoslr oh I haven't seen him using hand brakes on this new video series

    • @hugoslr
      @hugoslr Год назад

      @@johnsnow1355 the update itself isn't out yet so that probably explains it

  • @lucabaracuda987
    @lucabaracuda987 Год назад

    moooooooooooooooooooooore

  • @genericyoutubeusername6462
    @genericyoutubeusername6462 Год назад

    Whats with americans and ingame money

  • @skwirils
    @skwirils Год назад

    DAY4 pls play transpoert fever 2

    • @Eddiee757
      @Eddiee757 Год назад

      The hell is “transpoert” fever?

  • @TehF0cus
    @TehF0cus Год назад +2

    This game seems like absolute gargabe, not going to lie.

    • @mossthatrules77
      @mossthatrules77 Год назад +11

      You larp as a cop in gta

    • @ArtyI
      @ArtyI Год назад +2

      Yes, this game doesn’t have graphical fidelity of games like TSW, but you have to remember it’s mainly designed for VR. It’s a completely different game from sitting down in your chair and actually running around your train

    • @TehF0cus
      @TehF0cus Год назад

      @@mossthatrules77 what does that even mean lol

    • @Eddiee757
      @Eddiee757 Год назад

      @@TehF0cusyou should know, you do it

    • @TehF0cus
      @TehF0cus Год назад

      @@Eddiee757 Would I be asking then?

  • @Xighriser
    @Xighriser Год назад +1

    Looks like 🗑️

    • @mossthatrules77
      @mossthatrules77 Год назад +2

      You literally play CS GO you sunk good chunks of your life into garbage.

    • @machintrucGaming
      @machintrucGaming Год назад

      Used to look even worse. But it' on par with CSGO graphic level lmao.

    • @Jehty_
      @Jehty_ Год назад +5

      Does that matter?
      For me personally the gameplay is the most important. Doesn't matter how crappy it looks. Maybe that's a generational thing? Maybe people who grew up with the old games don't care for graphics as much as the Battlefield 1 generation?

    • @Xighriser
      @Xighriser Год назад

      @@Jehty_ it’s a simulator. It should be realistic as much as it can. Including graphics

    • @Jehty_
      @Jehty_ Год назад +1

      @@Xighriser it's a VR simulator.
      It probably is as realistic as it can be 🤷🏼‍♀️