He will get there.... hats off to the guy for staying cautious and not getting frustrated and trying to throttle out... possibly hitting someone else's boat. People should learn from this gentleman while he is learning!
I also have to give kudos to the guy that actually helped him. That should be an example of what everyone should do when they see a fellow mariner having trouble with their craft. Sometimes even the best of us can have problems.
It sucks when people post crap.This could have been the first time this guy ever had this boat out.He went slow didn't hurt anything. We all had to start and we all made silly mistakes.
those boats are actually really hard to drive slow like that, they are not stern drive (prop angle changes when you steer), they use a fixed prop and rudder. There for when your idling like that you have zero steering, You can only steer when you hit the gas and you get flow over the rudder. In a tight space like that he was probably nervous to give it a shot of gas so good on him for not getting cocky and driving it above his ability. However it's something for noobs to consider when buying a boat...
x275 racer Thanks racer, I must not have had my glasses on, I was positive it was a jet ski. And the last guy who commented beat you to correcting me on bravo drive, sorry.
We were ALL new captains once... He didn't do too badly. We ALL know that some days you look like a pro coming in, other days (wind and current against you) it's a controlled crash. If it's "single screw" the prop will walk the back of the boat in the direction that it is turning at low speed in reverse. This is worse with an inboard as the water has to wash past the rudder to move the boat's stern in the direction you want to go.. If the out drive turns (outboard or I/O) the craft turns easier as directional flow of the prop wash can be directed port or starboard
That looks like a 30' activator. Single engine. Big single. Would have been easy with twins. With one motor and all that hull catching that breeze = not easy. Give him a break!
@@mikatamminen2786I agree with you I'm not trying to be mean but this guy shouldn't be behind the helm of a boat like that if he can't even get her away from the slip wind or not, ;)
I haven't read all 535 comments, so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but he's almost certainly got a right handed prop/props. This kicks the stern to port when going astern and makes a spin to port quite tricky, especially in such a windy confined space. I think he does OK.
Hey bud I'm not real sure you and I are watching the same Video are you watching the one of the Go fast boat guy who has NO CLUE what he's doing trying to get out of the Slips ? How exactly do you figure that's care ? Being clueless get's people hurt ..have you not seen what happens when cash & ego purchase go fast boats with little to NO real experience ? Well maybe you need to check out the victims of Cash & ego ...I've seen them come and go ..and what usually happens when the New wears off and the 1000 dollars a month starts sinking in for the 3 months out of the year you can enjoy them up here is the Ole Burn job or Insurance job just to get out from under the weight of the 1000 dollar a month Nut you have got to crack each month every month .
This fits perfectly with my experience of power boat owners the world over. Not all... But most have wallets and egos vastly larger than their brains, common sense and consideration...
He's just broadside to a stiff wind (as evidence by the pennants at the end)... As someone who used to have a 26-footer with a catamaran hull and a LARGE bimini top that acted like a sail, I can relate. Sometimes, it takes a goose of throttle to get the boat to nose into the wind. Idle doesn't always cut it.
Diogo Duarte Correct those of us that have motor boats never have to deal with the wind, never have to be pushed by it or deal with drifting from it... WHAT A STUPID COMMENT
gijoecam starting at 51 seconds the American flag directly in front of him was limp as can be,maybe I am.wron but surely does no look gale force to me. This guy needs a professional to show him how to use the throttle and shifter as a single screw I/O needs a bump at idle to make it respond to the direction of the wheel,so many boat owners seem to be afraid to hit the throttle and just idle while trying to turn. Most times idle speed is not enough and they panic,yell at the people on the boat to push off and hit what they were trying to avoid.
ok ... whats the problem, he didnt hit anything, he is taking his time he is learning, showed great discipline in others property, why didnt you put the camera down and give him a hand instead of acting like a two year old
You have to learn some how. I don't know of someone born and expert to maneuver a boat around a slip. I my self is still learning. Glad to see people helping instead of watching and criticize.
It's obviously his first few times doing it, and honestly, he didn't do that bad. He didn't hit anything. Tell you what, what's scarier than someone new to boating is someone who's been doing it for years and are still oblivious and careless to everything around them. He was very careful, can't teach that. Everything else will fall into place, in due time he'll be able to whip that boat right in there, no problem. And to the guy recording, you should have hopped on that boat with him and showed him.
He did hit something though, he cut the wheel to the left to get away from the dock, and slammed his stern into it and dragged the whole starboard side of the boat along the dock. He did actually do pretty bad. He had no business getting behind the wheel of that boat with absolutely no prior training or experience, and making that decision was him doing bad.
What is really scary is I've personally seen the damage guys like this can do with Boats like that a few beer's and some girls then the Show off factor in full effect and disaster strikes with victims all over the place ...Yea I've seen Cash flush guys buy boats they have NO Business buying but do so anyway ..
@@tokillamurderer I disagree with you here. You gotta learn somehow. He didn’t hit anyone’s boat and he took his time. Could have been a lot worse but he was patient and cautious. Just gotta practice. There’s no easy way to learn how to drive a boat without actually getting behind the wheel and doing it. The current boaters safety courses are a joke. They don’t actually teach you how to operate a vessel.
We all would love to have this boat and do the same thing. It's kinda like us with our muscles cars driving through the car hop restaurant over and over again so people would see and hear our cars. Love it
Gatta love the snub nose judgmental boating community. Incoming tide, large boat, and small lanes. Not easy. I've seen much worse in our harbors from people in boats 1/10th the size of this one. Can't count how man foot stops have saved some peoples boats, and how many bump n runs I've watched from the cafe over hang. It happens. Navigating the water is not easy. At least they went slow and steady, rather than the idiots who punch it to use power to make up for bad boating skills and usually make shit worse, or get lucky and pull it off. Only by a hair.
Worse yet, some of these self appointed character smearing judges probably have not boated yet but may decide to in the future and will regret having ever pointed a finger, especially if it turns out that they are even more clumsy at first than those who they poked fun at. Unless you have someone experienced and willing to grab the helm at a split second's notice, one's first outing or two often looks like the Farkel family outing.
It can be very hard to get your bow to turn into the wind and current for a bow-light, stern-heavy boat. No problem if he can use both engines -- port in reverse, starboard forward, a little gas (particularly on the reverse engine) and you will spin on an axis just forward of the props. If he has only one engine to work with then this is a challenge. He would have been best served by taking advantage of the thoroughfare space just after he left the slip with a burst of RPMs in reverse and his wheel turned hard to starboard. This can be a little nerve wracking if maybe you are not use to the touch of the throttle (especially in a boat with that much power) but it is the only way to swing the bow around without the use of a second motor. I fault him not for the way he did it -- without panicking, taking advantage of the available dock space and a helping hand. I've been there before with my 27' single outboard walk-around.
Jackle61 Yes, probably. I shot this video and I can only add that he and his GF popped out of the v-berth, started the engine, dropped his lines and started out without even letting the cold engine settle down. It appeared that they had been partying the night before and needed to get going ASAP. This is not a normal thing at that marina. Almost everyone asks, by radio, for some assistance, even if it's simply freeing up the lines and guiding the boat to port, just to get him going in the right direction. The fender that you mention may or may not still be attached when he got to where he was going.
Gurn Blanstein I've been taking too many of my non-sailing/boating friends with me and they are rubbing off on me. When I tell them to deploy the fenders they look at me like I have a hole in my head so I tell the deploy the bumpers and they know exactly what I'm talking about. I know, I should know better,,, I am now going to walk the plank, for I am ashamed.
I'm not sure if it was a knowledge issue. The boat was heavily drifting away while idling. The water looks calm but with the sign of winds. I'd vote for some kind of a currents as well. Maybe the guy is a guest and is not familiar with the currents of that marina. He looks quite surprised when leaving the slip.
That's one mean sounding boat. Everyone has to start somewhere but that might not be the one to do it with. I hope he gains control over it before he loses it completely. Steer power (especially in reverse) coming from the rear can mess with anyone and once you get tense it only gets worse. Seems to be what he kept doing.
yea Tony, me thinks the lump shaft has got a couple of lobes that are just a wee bit high :)), sounds awesome, nothing like the sound of a 900hp big block except maybe a 1,200hp job :)) big blocks rule
Never fails the wind will start blowing when pull up to dock. Did exact same thing 55 foot flat bottom houseboat in front of lunch crowd on restaurant deck. People were picking up their children and food and moving away from railing. Scary as hell moment with exspensive yatchs docked all around
He was afraid of killing the motor. He needed to clear out the engine. Rev it out in neutral. Now it can throttle up a bit and give the boat some thrust and directionality.
So here's my take as a mariner for most of my life. That boat has tiny rudder, as it's designed to go fast and a large rudder is dangerous. Prop torque in reverse causes it to "port back" meaning the stern will claw sideways, to the left when going astern. He's fighting a breeze, evident at the end of the video, which is perpendicular to the boat as it leaves the slip. All boats will lie across the prevailing wind, and this one, with such a shallow draft, and no keel, will respond to the wind almost instantly. So as he leaves the slip, he's hooped. But he did well anyways by not hitting anything, not adding power to the equation and smashing into things, and remaining calm. And I've seen lots of boaters fail at all three at the same time and do very silly things. So next time he'll know more about how that boat of his handles, and every time after that. The important thing is he's out there doing something challenging, and not sitting on the sidelines.
"Great boat, but ya need a new set of plugs whenever you leave the doc" ~ this guy😆😆😋 Good job staying off the throttles😊 If there's a current coming across the bow left to right (capt view) it would've been easier to drift the nose starboard and back out of the marina I'm thinking😎 Esp with no bow thrusters
That water had some current to it. But I think he was new to being on the water and he just needed to give that thing some throttle. He wasn't giving it enough power to get out. Although I'm only 13, I have my Tennessee license.
He’s down an engine! Operating a twin engine boat that size with only one running is a BIA, I know… I have a 36 with twins 500 HPs (no where near the power of this boats), I’ve done it and it’s not fun. So please don’t judge his driving abilities until you know the facts, and also have a bit of experience driving a boat of this caliber. Running a twin engine boat with one engine you’re pushing and pulling one side only so it is not as simple as just turning the wheel. Think about it, you have an engine pushing/pulling from one side only. I actually respect this guy for doing it as good as he did.
Couldn't tell if he had twin screws or not on that. Would have helped if he did. lot of current dragging him in there, but yeah a little more practice. Not an easy task in a narrow space on a boat that long. Try doing it with a 48 ft sailboat, even worse.
I dont see you HELPING him at all, you didnt even give him a thumbs up or HAVE FUN hail when he went by. Thank God for people hanging out at docks, plenty of people need help docking or leaving due to wind, waves, etc, if everyone helps out, it makes your day better, not worse!
Its funny, all these people saying "put one outdrive in forward and one in reverse". Its possible that he could have to, but we just finished building one just like it (but its bright ass orange) and we put a blown 568 dart in it making around 1000 hp, and it took up most of the room in the engine compartment, so it's most likely he only has a single engine in it. Which is plenty of power for that hull, I was reading about the same hull with a 525 mercruiser that pushed it around either 95 or 105. So the owner of the one we built estimates it should run about 120, 125 something around there. And to all the people saying its an expensive boat, your wrong. The one we built ,in a tech school here in florida, only cost the owner about $60,000, including everything, hull, trailer,2 blocks (first one was bad), blower, $7,500 headers, top of the line stereo, the very first Konrad Ace outdrive, a borg warner transmission. So to build one its less than a brand new 23 ft mako ($62,995). but he's selling it for $150k so your right and wrong about it being expensive.
Looks like a cross wind and single screw drive. Tough to get the nose pointed upwind in such a tight space. Wonder if he would have been better to let the bow go with the wind and back it out til he got in a bigger space to maneuver.
well if you ask me that boat sounds f@#kin sick (love it) ...and yea stop hating ppl he's prbly got the insurance to back up the claim....lol ride hard ..hang it up wet....that's how I roll!
Fact is, it is harder to move a boat around in close quarters than it appears. But there are tips on the net, and you can take a boating, on the water course. One big problem today, is if you have the all important money---you can just buy it and drive it, even if you don't know how. NO ONE knows, until they are taught, but as much as I think there is too much government at time, in this case, we really should require both classroom and on the water training before issuing what does not yet exist--a license for boating. I have seen guys ten times worse than this guy-hey, he didn't hit anything, did he? And some of those guy I have seen might kill you, all cause they had money, but 0.000 expertise
***** That's in interesting point. Many of the states have some kind of licensing requirement but the class (or in some cases, classes) tend to focus on the rules of the road, safety equipment, etc. At least here in the northeast coastal U.S., I don't know of any mandatory training that includes actual on-water boat handling. The marina where this was shot (Greenport, Long Island) can be a challenge, depending on the wind. To the left is a ferry terminal that takes cars and trucks to nearby Shelter Island. The ferries create quite a current in the marina, at times. The bigger boats can usually dock quite easily but smaller, lighter boats can get pushed around. I've got almost 40 years of small boat handling experience but my 34 ft. flybridge cruiser with twin in-board V-8 engines gets shoved around sometimes even though I have a person on board handling the lines. This is especially true if the marina is crowded. The dock crew at this marina is excellent but if you want to leave, you need to call them on the radio to get their assistance. The couple in this video obviously didn't. Once he got out into the fairway, all the people on the dock could do was fend him off.
Yeah, on the one hand, as I said, I find there to be way too many laws--yet, on the other hand, it takes enough people really hurt and/or killed before a law gets placed on the books--and then it is often a hurried and not well thought out law, you know "we have to DO something". Too bad we can't sort out a reasonable requirement, make it stick.
***** Where I thought I was good, but was not, was close quarter maneuvers because I had learned--or thought I had learned--in calm water, little wind, little current. When I actually hit both, I realized I had, and still have, a lot to learn. I had "back-up" cause I place people bow and stern to keep off objects/boats--but had not realized how badly I sometimes still need em.
Good example of skipping the whole crawl before you walk scenario. I would like to think that this may have been this mans first time on a twin screw boat. At some point he will learn to rely on his shifters solely until he's underway, above idle. Many of us came from single motor maneuvering using throttle, shifter and steering to dock or leave a harbor and yes, it takes more skill on a single. For those unfamiliar with twins, drive it like a tank in tight spaces, you can spin in your own length, never touch the wheel or throttles. In time you will learn to be easy on transmissions as you go from forward to reverse while "walking" you'r boat out.
His boat has almost no steerage way at low speeds. He needed to be more ballsy and aggressive. He should also maybe choose a different slip to put his boat in. He should have invested some money and bring some friends to push him away from the docks. His passenger could have helped out, even if it is an old lady or something.
. Appears to be a strong current pushing him in the wrong direction... the lady should have gotten on the front and pushed the bow in the right direction so he could power out...
You can see the wind howling at the end of the video. IMO he should have just nudged the bow out, let the wind blow it around and just back out. I have owned boats with single and twin motors and you always have more control backing into the wind.
Single engined boats with ourdrives are the most difficult to learn to drive - and the length of this one makes it even harder. The hull of this Activator is so long the wind is applying sufficient force and leverage on the bow to prevent the skipper turning the bow into the wind - the result is that the whole boat is being blown sideways down-wind. The way around this, before beginning to move out of the dock, is to apply to basic mechanical force - like a boathook - to shove bow of the boat away from the dockside . (Another method - a bit awkward in this boat - is to lever the boat's bow out by attaching a line to the PORT stern cleat and loop it around a cleat on the dock . Bump the thottle briefly ahead - just to give a pulse of forward power and when the bow's moving away from the dock, pull in the line and stow it . ) Then the skipper needs to remember the motto "steer - then gear". The next step is a brief bump of power straight ahead to get the boat moving out of the dock at the acute angle it's now at - but the angle achieved by that shove on the bow probably won't be enough to make the full turn. So it's back into neutral. Then it's port helm hard over Then forward gear with a brief pulse of power - that'll start the stern skittering out to starboard Then back into neutral. Then helm straight ahead. Then into forward gear again - and the boat should be lined up to exit the marina. If not - another brief power bump on the throttle with the wheel hard a port should get it nicely lined up.
This reminds me of when new riders get their Motorcycle license and have never ridden(Except the crappy school lessons) and at the showroom tell the sales guy they want to start with a 600cc or 1000cc.
Dude had it until 1:04. and did no damage throughout the video. He gets props for being careful. Now idle out to a safe location and learn your boat. Practice turning that thing on a dime (Not at Speed :). Find out which direction it will turn in reverse better and then practice its weak reverse. Once you master weak direction reverse, the other direction will feel like a dream. Be careful and have fun! We have all seen guys doing 70 on the water and it's not a big deal (in the right conditions) However, seeing someone maneuver well in close quarters, is both calming for those with boats nearby, and impressive to watch. Take pride and strive for perfection!
Not 100% sure but I think this boat has a straight shaft with a prop on the end. Sooooo.... he doesn't have duel screws to use for navigation... and he doesn't have the ability to turn his outdrive to gain control. Overall, he did a great job until the end when the wind blew him over to the left. He kept the speed slow and used the boat's momentum to make adjustments. I'd say 99% of people on this post would have hit 4 boats...
I've been in a similar situation on a 40ft sailing boat, current and wind against you and not quite enough room to get water flowing over the surfaces, to give you control. Sometimes reversing out is easier.
Okay, this guy did an alright job. Pay attention to the water flow. One over correction and everyone in their boats would have been rocked. The motor sounds that way because it's in idle. When he cranks it up, hold on.
Watch the bow, not just the water flow. When his bow drifts to starboard faster than the wind can push it while he's backing down, he's got the rudder pointed the wrong way. He's lucky to not have a dock at the far end, he'd still be there, and he'd still have no clue how to run a springline.
JasmineLindros Your right, I didn't want to totally blame him but there is more to having a boat than going fast in open water. You have to know how to dock and undock. Maybe it was first time jitters.
When I was young ,I discovered A gift I am left handed and there were many campers 30 ft and longer that I backed into tight camping spaces for older folks who had the bucks and not the patience or know how,I made a lot of nice friends ,Those other folks at the marina should have HELPED out by giving some much needed instructions possibly even a instruction ride...WCH
That was a tight turn for a long boat. I think his biggest problem is that he didn't warm his motor. Like all cammed-up, naturally-aspirated V-8's, his is cold-natured. He couldn't go from stumble to light output; the thing wanted either stumble or put out the torque.
lol, i've been there.. takes practice.. easier when trimmed down, i shift to neutral then turn the wheel for each direction change use forward and reverse. I can turn on a dime now.. good luck
It does look like a tough spot to get out of with a boat like that. Handling a boat can be unnerving. I had trouble with getting my uncles 17 foot boat onto a trailer in strong winds, it was the first time my dad and I had taken the boat out. Each time I approached the trailer the wind blew the nose away. My dad suggested that I point the nose into the wind on approach and apply the throttle as the wind turned the front of the boat - would have been much harder with a bigger boat. It's all fun everyone has to learn somehow.
He almost had it at 1:28, but then he put it in forward again. You can't steer a boat that's not making way, and boats steer the opposite of cars, swinging their sterns instead of their front ends.
he looked a bit inexperienced but there was a strong breeze he was dealing with. never looked to bad out of control. I give him a low 4 out of 10. definatly needs practice.
I work next to Potomoc River and hear and see boats daily till one day I heard a ppwerful boat engine that sounded like a locomotive train, sheer awsomeness. I believe it was a cigarette race boat but not sure.
I can see why that’s like the tides coming in you can see the current and I’ve been there plenty of times like that when not directly at that place butI know how That Current Will just pull you.
Prop walk and a light breeze. Every time he cranks the wheel to starboard in reverse, the prop drags the ass end to port (which shoves the bow to starboard).
Looks like surface drives to me. I've always heard they are a nightmare around th dock compared to standard lowers. Seems like he was a bit timmid on the throttle though. My 30 with twin trs is a breeze to maneuver. Easily do a 360 in plac with some throttle. Boats in the wind like that can be a real pain in the butt though.
He will get there.... hats off to the guy for staying cautious and not getting frustrated and trying to throttle out... possibly hitting someone else's boat.
People should learn from this gentleman while he is learning!
I also have to give kudos to the guy that actually helped him. That should be an example of what everyone should do when they see a fellow mariner having trouble with their craft. Sometimes even the best of us can have problems.
It sucks when people post crap.This could have been the first time this guy ever had this boat out.He went slow didn't hurt anything. We all had to start and we all made silly mistakes.
I feel for the guy, your'e 100% right. We all make mistakes, and you learn from your mistakes!
those boats are actually really hard to drive slow like that, they are not stern drive (prop angle changes when you steer), they use a fixed prop and rudder. There for when your idling like that you have zero steering, You can only steer when you hit the gas and you get flow over the rudder. In a tight space like that he was probably nervous to give it a shot of gas so good on him for not getting cocky and driving it above his ability. However it's something for noobs to consider when buying a boat...
what he should have is a extra engine that u use in ports and thight spots, thats what we in Norway use on these boats
Eric It is a stern drive.
Eric its not a jet ski, LOL it has a bravo drive on it.
x275 racer Thanks racer, I must not have had my glasses on, I was positive it was a jet ski. And the last guy who commented beat you to correcting me on bravo drive, sorry.
Lmao
There are no rudders on that boat
We were ALL new captains once... He didn't do too badly. We ALL know that some days you look like a pro coming in, other days (wind and current against you) it's a controlled crash. If it's "single screw" the prop will walk the back of the boat in the direction that it is turning at low speed in reverse. This is worse with an inboard as the water has to wash past the rudder to move the boat's stern in the direction you want to go.. If the out drive turns (outboard or I/O) the craft turns easier as directional flow of the prop wash can be directed port or starboard
That looks like a 30' activator. Single engine. Big single. Would have been easy with twins. With one motor and all that hull catching that breeze = not easy. Give him a break!
I was there that day - it was a single
Bullshit, easy it is even with a single engine. I got a 28 footer with a 30''' prop...and a blower engine.
@@mikatamminen2786I agree with you I'm not trying to be mean but this guy shouldn't be behind the helm of a boat like that if he can't even get her away from the slip wind or not, ;)
I haven't read all 535 comments, so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but he's almost certainly got a right handed prop/props. This kicks the stern to port when going astern and makes a spin to port quite tricky, especially in such a windy confined space. I think he does OK.
Gotta hand it to him. He is clearly more concerned with care over cool. Not common when in a boat like that.
Hey bud I'm not real sure you and I are watching the same Video are you watching the one of the Go fast boat guy who has NO CLUE what he's doing trying to get out of the Slips ? How exactly do you figure that's care ? Being clueless get's people hurt ..have you not seen what happens when cash & ego purchase go fast boats with little to NO real experience ? Well maybe you need to check out the victims of Cash & ego ...I've seen them come and go ..and what usually happens when the New wears off and the 1000 dollars a month starts sinking in for the 3 months out of the year you can enjoy them up here is the Ole Burn job or Insurance job just to get out from under the weight of the 1000 dollar a month Nut you have got to crack each month every month .
@@TheRoguelement oh boi
@@TheRoguelement $1000/month for what? Lol... Or do u mean the actual price of the boat?
@@TheRoguelement Is that from personal experience ? Keeping talking . .
Anybody can go to Walmart to buy a boat!!!
This fits perfectly with my experience of power boat owners the world over. Not all... But most have wallets and egos vastly larger than their brains, common sense and consideration...
He's just broadside to a stiff wind (as evidence by the pennants at the end)... As someone who used to have a 26-footer with a catamaran hull and a LARGE bimini top that acted like a sail, I can relate. Sometimes, it takes a goose of throttle to get the boat to nose into the wind. Idle doesn't always cut it.
gijoecam - Dead on.... single screws always like to turn one way better than others, and this boat clearly wanted to go with the wind and not into it.
gijoecam Usually people than own motor boats do not understand the concept of "wind".
Diogo Duarte Correct those of us that have motor boats never have to deal with the wind, never have to be pushed by it or deal with drifting from it... WHAT A STUPID COMMENT
gijoecam l
gijoecam starting at 51 seconds the American flag directly in front of him was limp as can be,maybe I am.wron but surely does no look gale force to me. This guy needs a professional to show him how to use the throttle and shifter as a single screw I/O needs a bump at idle to make it respond to the direction of the wheel,so many boat owners seem to be afraid to hit the throttle and just idle while trying to turn. Most times idle speed is not enough and they panic,yell at the people on the boat to push off and hit what they were trying to avoid.
ok ... whats the problem, he didnt hit anything,
he is taking his time
he is learning,
showed great discipline in others property,
why didnt you put the camera down and give him a hand instead of acting like a two year old
I agree... Nothing to see here...move on...
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Right, I was actually happy he took his time and it all worked out good in the end.
Maybe its a new boat. Different handling
You have to learn some how. I don't know of someone born and expert to maneuver a boat around a slip. I my self is still learning. Glad to see people helping instead of watching and criticize.
It's obviously his first few times doing it, and honestly, he didn't do that bad. He didn't hit anything. Tell you what, what's scarier than someone new to boating is someone who's been doing it for years and are still oblivious and careless to everything around them. He was very careful, can't teach that. Everything else will fall into place, in due time he'll be able to whip that boat right in there, no problem. And to the guy recording, you should have hopped on that boat with him and showed him.
He did hit something though, he cut the wheel to the left to get away from the dock, and slammed his stern into it and dragged the whole starboard side of the boat along the dock. He did actually do pretty bad. He had no business getting behind the wheel of that boat with absolutely no prior training or experience, and making that decision was him doing bad.
What is really scary is I've personally seen the damage guys like this can do with Boats like that a few beer's and some girls then the Show off factor in full effect and disaster strikes with victims all over the place ...Yea I've seen Cash flush guys buy boats they have NO Business buying but do so anyway ..
@@tokillamurderer I disagree with you here. You gotta learn somehow. He didn’t hit anyone’s boat and he took his time. Could have been a lot worse but he was patient and cautious. Just gotta practice. There’s no easy way to learn how to drive a boat without actually getting behind the wheel and doing it. The current boaters safety courses are a joke. They don’t actually teach you how to operate a vessel.
We all would love to have this boat and do the same thing. It's kinda like us with our muscles cars driving through the car hop restaurant over and over again so people would see and hear our cars.
Love it
This guy will need a full time boat painter and good insurance. He did do a good job of missing all the other boats.
We all at a time came to that sort of difficulty. So let the keyboard captains comment. Nice paint job and I love the sound. Enjoy your day.
Gatta love the snub nose judgmental boating community. Incoming tide, large boat, and small lanes. Not easy.
I've seen much worse in our harbors from people in boats 1/10th the size of this one. Can't count how man foot stops have saved some peoples boats, and how many bump n runs I've watched from the cafe over hang. It happens. Navigating the water is not easy.
At least they went slow and steady, rather than the idiots who punch it to use power to make up for bad boating skills and usually make shit worse, or get lucky and pull it off. Only by a hair.
Seriously... no clue, just a bunch of mmqbs
wow, the little lady must have been impressed with this display of surging testerone
the perfect thing for a peaceful Sunday morning - it sounds like my old Chevy Blazer after 10 years needing new mufflers installed
just remember, in all of your negative comments.......EVERY boat owner and captain started just like this in his own way....
Worse yet, some of these self appointed character smearing judges probably have not boated yet but may decide to in the future and will regret having ever pointed a finger, especially if it turns out that they are even more clumsy at first than those who they poked fun at. Unless you have someone experienced and willing to grab the helm at a split second's notice, one's first outing or two often looks like the Farkel family outing.
Engines sound good. Guy was just getting a feeling for the old girl.
It can be very hard to get your bow to turn into the wind and current for a bow-light, stern-heavy boat. No problem if he can use both engines -- port in reverse, starboard forward, a little gas (particularly on the reverse engine) and you will spin on an axis just forward of the props. If he has only one engine to work with then this is a challenge. He would have been best served by taking advantage of the thoroughfare space just after he left the slip with a burst of RPMs in reverse and his wheel turned hard to starboard. This can be a little nerve wracking if maybe you are not use to the touch of the throttle (especially in a boat with that much power) but it is the only way to swing the bow around without the use of a second motor. I fault him not for the way he did it -- without panicking, taking advantage of the available dock space and a helping hand. I've been there before with my 27' single outboard walk-around.
Kenneth Paquin
I grew to hate my one engine boat very quickly but with constant practice I finally figgered it out. No more sweating out dock hits.
I'll bet those nice fellows that helped him out will stay there waiting for his return, I know I would.
look at the flags it real windy plus the current, under the conditions he did everything right, he has and showed skill
You know, there's no shame in getting a 16' jon boat to learn with and then graduating to something bigger and more powerful when you're ready.
And you all know he's going to be out there flying around with his bumper hanging off the side of his boat.
Jackle61 Yes, probably. I shot this video and I can only add that he and his GF popped out of the v-berth, started the engine, dropped his lines and started out without even letting the cold engine settle down. It appeared that they had been partying the night before and needed to get going ASAP.
This is not a normal thing at that marina. Almost everyone asks, by radio, for some assistance, even if it's simply freeing up the lines and guiding the boat to port, just to get him going in the right direction.
The fender that you mention may or may not still be attached when he got to where he was going.
Called a fender and I doubt it. I thought he was going to do sumpm stupid but I guess he just did what he did. Move his badass boat
Jackle61 They're call fenders not bumpers lol..
Gurn Blanstein I've been taking too many of my non-sailing/boating friends with me and they are rubbing off on me. When I tell them to deploy the fenders they look at me like I have a hole in my head so I tell the deploy the bumpers and they know exactly what I'm talking about. I know, I should know better,,, I am now going to walk the plank, for I am ashamed.
Lol, you're forgiven!
I'm not sure if it was a knowledge issue. The boat was heavily drifting away while idling. The water looks calm but with the sign of winds. I'd vote for some kind of a currents as well. Maybe the guy is a guest and is not familiar with the currents of that marina. He looks quite surprised when leaving the slip.
He knows that the steering wheel actually truns right
Nicely done, imho, patience and experience apparent.
We're at the lake. All I want is a beer and to see somethin NAKED !!!
Must have been his first boat. Or he had 2 degrees of steering throw. Or he was scared to death. Pretty funny.
That's one mean sounding boat. Everyone has to start somewhere but that might not be the one to do it with. I hope he gains control over it before he loses it completely. Steer power (especially in reverse) coming from the rear can mess with anyone and once you get tense it only gets worse. Seems to be what he kept doing.
There is nothing sounds as beutiful as a Donzi.
yea Tony, me thinks the lump shaft has got a couple of lobes that are just a wee bit high :)), sounds awesome, nothing like the sound of a 900hp big block except maybe a 1,200hp job :)) big blocks rule
This video always makes me laugh... I hope the line on the dash doesn't fall into the water and into the prop...
I'd enjoy seeing him get the boat back into the slip. Also, I wonder if he ever pulled those fenders up.
Never fails the wind will start blowing when pull up to dock. Did exact same thing 55 foot flat bottom houseboat in front of lunch crowd on restaurant deck. People were picking up their children and food and moving away from railing. Scary as hell moment with exspensive yatchs docked all around
That is one sweet boat.
He was afraid of killing the motor. He needed to clear out the engine. Rev it out in neutral. Now it can throttle up a bit and give the boat some thrust and directionality.
So here's my take as a mariner for most of my life. That boat has tiny rudder, as it's designed to go fast and a large rudder is dangerous. Prop torque in reverse causes it to "port back" meaning the stern will claw sideways, to the left when going astern. He's fighting a breeze, evident at the end of the video, which is perpendicular to the boat as it leaves the slip. All boats will lie across the prevailing wind, and this one, with such a shallow draft, and no keel, will respond to the wind almost instantly.
So as he leaves the slip, he's hooped. But he did well anyways by not hitting anything, not adding power to the equation and smashing into things, and remaining calm. And I've seen lots of boaters fail at all three at the same time and do very silly things.
So next time he'll know more about how that boat of his handles, and every time after that. The important thing is he's out there doing something challenging, and not sitting on the sidelines.
"Great boat, but ya need a new set of plugs whenever you leave the doc" ~ this guy😆😆😋
Good job staying off the throttles😊 If there's a current coming across the bow left to right (capt view) it would've been easier to drift the nose starboard and back out of the marina I'm thinking😎 Esp with no bow thrusters
That water had some current to it. But I think he was new to being on the water and he just needed to give that thing some throttle. He wasn't giving it enough power to get out. Although I'm only 13, I have my Tennessee license.
He’s down an engine! Operating a twin engine boat that size with only one running is a BIA, I know… I have a 36 with twins 500 HPs (no where near the power of this boats), I’ve done it and it’s not fun. So please don’t judge his driving abilities until you know the facts, and also have a bit of experience driving a boat of this caliber. Running a twin engine boat with one engine you’re pushing and pulling one side only so it is not as simple as just turning the wheel. Think about it, you have an engine pushing/pulling from one side only. I actually respect this guy for doing it as good as he did.
Thats what you call a lombard, Lots Of Money But A Real Dork !
The wind was whipping those flags. Blowing him side ways. Been there done that, wind and current, single engine, he got it done.
Oh man! ...The sound of that bad dog!
That fairway is a little too narrow and the wind is really blowing. I've been there. Its way harder than it looks.
Couldn't tell if he had twin screws or not on that. Would have helped if he did. lot of current dragging him in there, but yeah a little more practice. Not an easy task in a narrow space on a boat that long. Try doing it with a 48 ft sailboat, even worse.
I dont see you HELPING him at all, you didnt even give him a thumbs up or HAVE FUN hail when he went by. Thank God for people hanging out at docks, plenty of people need help docking or leaving due to wind, waves, etc, if everyone helps out, it makes your day better, not worse!
Its funny, all these people saying "put one outdrive in forward and one in reverse". Its possible that he could have to, but we just finished building one just like it (but its bright ass orange) and we put a blown 568 dart in it making around 1000 hp, and it took up most of the room in the engine compartment, so it's most likely he only has a single engine in it. Which is plenty of power for that hull, I was reading about the same hull with a 525 mercruiser that pushed it around either 95 or 105. So the owner of the one we built estimates it should run about 120, 125 something around there.
And to all the people saying its an expensive boat, your wrong. The one we built ,in a tech school here in florida, only cost the owner about $60,000, including everything, hull, trailer,2 blocks (first one was bad), blower, $7,500 headers, top of the line stereo, the very first Konrad Ace outdrive, a borg warner transmission. So to build one its less than a brand new 23 ft mako ($62,995). but he's selling it for $150k so your right and wrong about it being expensive.
Dude is freaking out the other boat owners.. He should start with a big inner tube and work his way up.
Looks like a cross wind and single screw drive. Tough to get the nose pointed upwind in such a tight space. Wonder if he would have been better to let the bow go with the wind and back it out til he got in a bigger space to maneuver.
Remarkable balls - moving such a powerpack without any experience.
Good god somebody take that Damn thing away from him before he hurts somebody.
That's funny because this video came up at my Uncle Tom's wedding reception.
well if you ask me that boat sounds f@#kin sick (love it) ...and yea stop hating ppl he's prbly got the insurance to back up the claim....lol ride hard ..hang it up wet....that's how I roll!
I will baby where you at mmmmmmm
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Fact is, it is harder to move a boat around in close quarters than it appears. But there are tips on the net, and you can take a boating, on the water course. One big problem today, is if you have the all important money---you can just buy it and drive it, even if you don't know how. NO ONE knows, until they are taught, but as much as I think there is too much government at time, in this case, we really should require both classroom and on the water training before issuing what does not yet exist--a license for boating. I have seen guys ten times worse than this guy-hey, he didn't hit anything, did he? And some of those guy I have seen might kill you, all cause they had money, but 0.000 expertise
Twin screws would be nice and help a lot
Yeah Lew, and it is a beautiful thing to watch someone using them (twins) who knows how; they turn a boat on a dime with those.
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That's in interesting point. Many of the states have some kind of licensing requirement but the class (or in some cases, classes) tend to focus on the rules of the road, safety equipment, etc. At least here in the northeast coastal U.S., I don't know of any mandatory training that includes actual on-water boat handling.
The marina where this was shot (Greenport, Long Island) can be a challenge, depending on the wind. To the left is a ferry terminal that takes cars and trucks to nearby Shelter Island. The ferries create quite a current in the marina, at times. The bigger boats can usually dock quite easily but smaller, lighter boats can get pushed around.
I've got almost 40 years of small boat handling experience but my 34 ft. flybridge cruiser with twin in-board V-8 engines gets shoved around sometimes even though I have a person on board handling the lines. This is especially true if the marina is crowded. The dock crew at this marina is excellent but if you want to leave, you need to call them on the radio to get their assistance. The couple in this video obviously didn't. Once he got out into the fairway, all the people on the dock could do was fend him off.
Yeah, on the one hand, as I said, I find there to be way too many laws--yet, on the other hand, it takes enough people really hurt and/or killed before a law gets placed on the books--and then it is often a hurried and not well thought out law, you know "we have to DO something". Too bad we can't sort out a reasonable requirement, make it stick.
***** Where I thought I was good, but was not, was close quarter maneuvers because I had learned--or thought I had learned--in calm water, little wind, little current. When I actually hit both, I realized I had, and still have, a lot to learn. I had "back-up" cause I place people bow and stern to keep off objects/boats--but had not realized how badly I sometimes still need em.
Good example of skipping the whole crawl before you walk scenario. I would like to think that this may have been this mans first time on a twin screw boat. At some point he will learn to rely on his shifters solely until he's underway, above idle. Many of us came from single motor maneuvering using throttle, shifter and steering to dock or leave a harbor and yes, it takes more skill on a single. For those unfamiliar with twins, drive it like a tank in tight spaces, you can spin in your own length, never touch the wheel or throttles. In time you will learn to be easy on transmissions as you go from forward to reverse while "walking" you'r boat out.
His boat has almost no steerage way at low speeds. He needed to be more ballsy and aggressive. He should also maybe choose a different slip to put his boat in. He should have invested some money and bring some friends to push him away from the docks. His passenger could have helped out, even if it is an old lady or something.
So much free advice, but how many have operated a boat with a fixed prop and a rudder? A lot harder to maneuver than your old outboard.
. Appears to be a strong current pushing him in the wrong direction... the lady should have gotten on the front and pushed the bow in the right direction so he could power out...
Or even walked him out with the ropes.
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40 years ive owned boats water current can mess you up as much as the wind. Ever cross the Gulf Stream?
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This was at Green Port Long Island if you look at this marina on Google Earth its very open and no sea wall.
Wow. That's not good... That would def make it rough.
www.google.com/maps/search/Green+Port+Long+Island+marina/@41.1009778,-72.3588452,578m/data=!3m1!1e3 Had a little bit.. :)
Easily one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a while..drunk? Rookie? I’m so confused
His rpms don't seem to change. You need a blast of power to start each turn to move water past the rudder.
You can see the wind howling at the end of the video. IMO he should have just nudged the bow out, let the wind blow it around and just back out. I have owned boats with single and twin motors and you always have more control backing into the wind.
Single engined boats with ourdrives are the most difficult to learn to drive - and the length of this one makes it even harder.
The hull of this Activator is so long the wind is applying sufficient force and leverage on the bow to prevent the skipper turning the bow into the wind - the result is that the whole boat is being blown sideways down-wind.
The way around this, before beginning to move out of the dock, is to apply to basic mechanical force - like a boathook - to shove bow of the boat away from the dockside .
(Another method - a bit awkward in this boat - is to lever the boat's bow out by attaching a line to the PORT stern cleat and loop it around a cleat on the dock . Bump the thottle briefly ahead - just to give a pulse of forward power and when the bow's moving away from the dock, pull in the line and stow it . )
Then the skipper needs to remember the motto "steer - then gear".
The next step is a brief bump of power straight ahead to get the boat moving out of the dock at the acute angle it's now at - but the angle achieved by that shove on the bow probably won't be enough to make the full turn.
So it's back into neutral.
Then it's port helm hard over
Then forward gear with a brief pulse of power - that'll start the stern skittering out to starboard
Then back into neutral.
Then helm straight ahead.
Then into forward gear again - and the boat should be lined up to exit the marina.
If not - another brief power bump on the throttle with the wheel hard a port should get it nicely lined up.
This reminds me of when new riders get their Motorcycle license and have never ridden(Except the crappy school lessons) and at the showroom tell the sales guy they want to start with a 600cc or 1000cc.
Dude had it until 1:04. and did no damage throughout the video. He gets props for being careful. Now idle out to a safe location and learn your boat. Practice turning that thing on a dime (Not at Speed :). Find out which direction it will turn in reverse better and then practice its weak reverse. Once you master weak direction reverse, the other direction will feel like a dream. Be careful and have fun! We have all seen guys doing 70 on the water and it's not a big deal (in the right conditions) However, seeing someone maneuver well in close quarters, is both calming for those with boats nearby, and impressive to watch. Take pride and strive for perfection!
Not 100% sure but I think this boat has a straight shaft with a prop on the end. Sooooo.... he doesn't have duel screws to use for navigation... and he doesn't have the ability to turn his outdrive to gain control. Overall, he did a great job until the end when the wind blew him over to the left. He kept the speed slow and used the boat's momentum to make adjustments. I'd say 99% of people on this post would have hit 4 boats...
Very nice and interesting video,
I've been in a similar situation on a 40ft sailing boat, current and wind against you and not quite enough room to get water flowing over the surfaces, to give you control. Sometimes reversing out is easier.
Okay, this guy did an alright job. Pay attention to the water flow. One over correction and everyone in their boats would have been rocked. The motor sounds that way because it's in idle. When he cranks it up, hold on.
Watch the bow, not just the water flow. When his bow drifts to starboard faster than the wind can push it while he's backing down, he's got the rudder pointed the wrong way. He's lucky to not have a dock at the far end, he'd still be there, and he'd still have no clue how to run a springline.
JasmineLindros Your right, I didn't want to totally blame him but there is more to having a boat than going fast in open water. You have to know how to dock and undock. Maybe it was first time jitters.
Could be, and it's not like he had an experienced crew to help him out.
With little experience and on a single screw that can be difficult....especially with the length and wind. It's good he took it slow and safe
you have to control the boat . Don't let the boat control you.
When I was young ,I discovered A gift I am left handed and there were many campers 30 ft and longer that I backed into tight camping spaces for older folks who had the bucks and not the patience or know how,I made a lot of nice friends ,Those other folks at the marina should have HELPED out by giving some much needed instructions possibly even a instruction ride...WCH
Leave the guy alone and let him enjoy his well-deserved badass toy. Lets see you do any better miss prissy pants!
That was a tight turn for a long boat. I think his biggest problem is that he didn't warm his motor. Like all cammed-up, naturally-aspirated V-8's, his is cold-natured. He couldn't go from stumble to light output; the thing wanted either stumble or put out the torque.
So...doesnt he have twin screws?
I couldn't imagine it was going to be that bad, he needs to sell that thing while he still can. Wonder how the hell he gets into the slip.
Dave Ramsey said that your income cant out earn stupidity. Well this guy proved him Wrong !!!!
It is nerve racking with a loud boat. Everyone is watching.
lol, i've been there.. takes practice.. easier when trimmed down, i shift to neutral then turn the wheel for each direction change use forward and reverse. I can turn on a dime now.. good luck
He's trying to sidewalk it. Better than I would be at it.
wow no quietly coming into dock late at night with that one. does it come standard with ear plugs? haha
Hey it happens. Single prop, strong head wind with current. Hard to bring that bow around.
It does look like a tough spot to get out of with a boat like that. Handling a boat can be unnerving. I had trouble with getting my uncles 17 foot boat onto a trailer in strong winds, it was the first time my dad and I had taken the boat out. Each time I approached the trailer the wind blew the nose away. My dad suggested that I point the nose into the wind on approach and apply the throttle as the wind turned the front of the boat - would have been much harder with a bigger boat. It's all fun everyone has to learn somehow.
Falling in the water fighting the boat is sometimes fun! My dad always made us the dummies for helping get the boat on in the wind.
I would have applauded as him came by
Standing up to see things helps immensely... ;)
Awesome paint!
I can't wait to see the video where he comes back docks, but i think there is a 2hr limit for RUclips video's, so we probably won't get to see it.
He almost had it at 1:28, but then he put it in forward again. You can't steer a boat that's not making way, and boats steer the opposite of cars, swinging their sterns instead of their front ends.
we were all new at one point, been boating for 25 years, some times its just a bad day at the dock ;) better this then hitting something
he looked a bit inexperienced but there was a strong breeze he was dealing with. never looked to bad out of control. I give him a low 4 out of 10. definatly needs practice.
I work next to Potomoc River and hear and see boats daily till one day I heard a ppwerful boat engine that sounded like a locomotive train, sheer awsomeness. I believe it was a cigarette race boat but not sure.
Looks like the boat was having a problem. Single engine or not that boat was not turning .
I can see why that’s like the tides coming in you can see the current and I’ve been there plenty of times like that when not directly at that place butI know how That Current Will just pull you.
Prop walk and a light breeze. Every time he cranks the wheel to starboard in reverse, the prop drags the ass end to port (which shoves the bow to starboard).
If you look closely you will see there was either current in that area or wind on the water. that made this a bit trickier than you think.
If you hold the 'A' button, you can preform sharper turns.. Or is that just in GTA..?
Looks like surface drives to me. I've always heard they are a nightmare around th dock compared to standard lowers. Seems like he was a bit timmid on the throttle though. My 30 with twin trs is a breeze to maneuver. Easily do a 360 in plac with some throttle. Boats in the wind like that can be a real pain in the butt though.
Bullshit they are. Operated a 47 footer with twin SD's, no problem.
Twin engines, one stik forward and one back... Too much boat for ya!
One of his engines were out