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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Hey Guys! Today we take a look at something a little bit different as we discuss the Air Kiy.
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100% agree on the larger point of this video. Here's hoping the giants in the industry will change their release mechanisms, because current state is clearly not working for consumers that actually want the products.
Its frustrating as hell.
I spent like 14 hours maybe 15 on Yeezy day and couldn't cop a single damn pair
@@cupid1313pr damn..that's f****d up
@@cupid1313pr My man, same here lol. I woke up at 7 AM EST just wanting ONE pair of Waverunners and spent every free moment of the day hawking social media for when they release only to leave empty handed. All I can do is laugh about it to keep from getting tight.
@@ericq9049 From my perspective, the shoe companies are leaving money on the table though. If they did the pre-order route, their supply meets the demand (or close to it). Right now they're leaving a lot of meat on the bone.
I remember back in the 80s and 90s being able to go into my local owned shoe store and buying Jordan's with no issue. If they weren't in stock they could order them no issue.
Word?? I’ve never heard any OGs talk about being able to order them. That’s cool to know.
It may have been easy to buy a that time but that was also a era when ppl was being robbed & killed for Jordans keys not 4get that part... In 2022 not so much
And they were only 150$ …tops 200$. That’s why I won’t buy any today. I’ve had em all at 150 bucks before. If I’m paying over 200 for shoes, I’m going designer.
I actually like how these look. Disappointed the materials aren’t high end with that $300 price point, so I would end up passing on these 💔
Bro he has Old Ladies making these low quality shoes and are having them break their back for this bs shoe. I know bc his facility is underneath my recording studio
@@luketheduke9670 the facility in jersey ?
@@luketheduke9670 most them ladies chinnese i think smh
@@Ckkb897 north bergen, New Jersey. One or three are Chinese
Same
Hey Guys! The Air Kiy is taking us in a bit of a different direction today. Here's a look at what they have to offer along with Chris' thoughts on the whole idea of them. Let us know yours down below. Thanks for watching!
I think is time to move on from Nike and their bots. To other smaller guys that are actually trying to help the community out...
The air KIY are great I want a pair where do I go to order them
@@JAYREEZE1 His Instagram (@kool.kiy). Turn your notifications for him on and he'll randomly announce a release every so often and a time for when it'll happen. The link to his website is in his bio. I agree with Chris though about these not really being worth the cost.
For those of us that skew away from hype and enjoy the kicks pre-order is awesome. A hybrid FCFS with preorder would be ideal. I mean I just preordered ALD 650s and I won’t get the til March…and I’m okay with that.
For a sec thought these were Air Kys
Only Nightwing can give out these kind of reviews with a bigger point/perspective
The idea of a pre order, an actual pre order I might add is wonderful. I don't mind waiting for production of the shoe. My pair is guaranteed. Especially when it's so difficult to cop pairs already made on release day. The brands love the frenzy of releases where some get them and others don't. Their logic is, you didn't get this shoe then you might buy something else. No I won't buy something else. I wanted that specific shoe. If I wanted something else I would have bought it already. Sorry for the rant.
unfortunately due to everyone complaining about the long shipping time kiy said on instagram that he’s stopping the preorder model and is just making limited pairs.
@@jd7457 Exactly, that's the only aspect I wish Chris had caught before making this video (wouldn't be surprised if that IG post isn't up anymore so I understand how he maybe missed it), Jordan Brand doing pre-orders would be that times a million lol. People aren't patient. The only difference would be that JB would communicate WAYYYY better than Kiy was.
If it becomes thats available and that easy to cop you won't be patient anymore. If it's not instant u would skip on them. You only wait for thing hard to get.
Just like kiy. He was taking pre orders. He was giving u ur shoes but people didnt wanted to wait.
I love your channel. You might be the only honest sneak head on RUclips. Keep up the good work!!!!!!!
When Bape dropped those kicks Air Force 1 didn’t have a patent at the time
Same with this shoe. Bootleg is bootleg. And Bape is as bootleg as it gets. If these aren’t acceptable then Bape shouldn’t be either.
This is one of the best reviews I’ve ever seen. You make very valid points and I’m here for it. Preorders take a while to get but that’s understandable because it’s made to order. If this concept was applied to highly sought after sneakers, it would change the culture for the better. I personally like the look of the shoe (KIY) and the colorways but I refused to pay that much for a bootleg that’s poor quality. Great job on this review man.
them whomp whomps 1s, I agree Jordan should do pre-orders.
Funny thing is Sia shoes have the same flex in the sole even though he did all that talking
Nike should do preorders. They can have you pay $50 up front and the rest when the shoe ships. On top of that they can make enough to keep the retail stores happy.
I agree
Seriously was contemplating on buying a few pairs but after watching your review, knowing your background on performance and materials throughout the years, I am definitely going to pass and save my money for something else. I'm happy you did this review because I was literally going to pull the trigger. thanks for the honest review..
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The pre order idea is excellent. Virtually everything else clothing related I buy these days is through something like that, why not sneakers?
If you don’t mind me asking, what online store do you preorder it on?
I don't agree with pre orders, because you don't know what you're gonna get in terms of quality. You can only guarantee you're gonna get *something*.
@@NBaeK01 How is that different from a regular release from Nike/Jordan? 😂
@@yididya3355 mostly small to medium businesses doing shirts/shorts that kind of thing.
They would make so much money with preorders. I don't understand why they don't do it.
The only bootleg Jordan worth are the Fugazi “One In the Chamber”and tbh Reps have been so good to the point it’s better than the actual shoe. Nike/Jordan releases this year have been so disappointing when it comes to quality
Real dope content!!! Like you said preorder or not when it comes to Jordan’s we’ll never get tired of buying his shoe……Jordan will 4E out sale any other shoe made even designer 💯💯💯💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I don’t know which one is more popular nowadays, sneakers or reselling…. Great video man.
The Bapestas and the Revenge Vans are simply expensive and "accepted" due the hype surrounding them.
With the Bapestas obviously from BAPE and the Revenge's being designed by Ian Connor (a designer/ stylist close with artists like Kanye, ASAP Rocky and Playboi Carti).
What did Ian Connor designed tho? The thunder? throwing a name on something don’t make it better, please people don’t be fooled by marketing, that’s what it does to your brain
@@wuwuisaac when your the only one known to have put a thunder bolt instead of the regular design it’s considered yours innit.
Same shit w Travis’ Jordan 1s
Ain’t even hating on trav or Ian (despite the allegations lmao), they switched up an old design that gathered hype and is considered an alternative to the normal product 🤷🏻♂️
@@DREiPowah Pretty sure Travis is a collab I don’t give him any recognition of “designing” the sneakers. It’s hyped tho, because consumers dig the look of the shoe, and I’m pretty sure there’s no battle of “whos a better sneaker designer between Travis Scott or Virgil?” But you could argue about Kanye and Jerry.
I’m a fan of kiy but I really appreciate you being honest about it and not coming off in a crude way just being honest and straightforward very good constructive criticism
Can you elaborate on why you are a fan? I don’t quite get it.. the shoes just look like obvious rip offs of Jordans with a altered “swoosh” aka the bolt…What’s to like about that? Being genuine, no hate to you.
I'm a fan of SIA, where the man draws inspiration from things (like the Jordan 1), and puts some additional story telling in, and really puts quality materials on the upper
I'm not a fan of these (or the others you named), where it's basically a 1:1 reproduction with only the logo/name modified. I get that Nike makes it too hard for us consumers to get what we want, but this isn't the solution - pre-order I feel would be best. And maybe it wouldn't kill the resell market, but it would definitely allow people that want the shoe to get them without having to pay resale on the regular
I just did a review on the SIA Vulture SK8 check it out when you get a chance.
Sia cheap out too the D.1.Ys are extremely thin compared to Jordan 1s
Meh
Meh, putting a vulture head on Mario or turtle shell isn’t exactly story telling . SIA thinks he’s special or unique when actuallity he’s a different form of bootlegging that’s often weak with the themes. Taking others IP and adding a vulture logo isn’t revolutionary or that creative to be taking shots at other bootlegs as if he’s some how superior, when they all are in the same boat. Not mad at bootlegs, bootlegs are needed in culture, but don’t throw shots at people when you do the same
Great perspective mate! I firmly believe you guys have the best preorder system so that no one misses out. Although the international shipping has increased from my 1st order, I’ll still continue to support your business!
Once again. An honest review.
The pink is a solid colorway. The orange is cool too but I’m loving the pink. ABSOLUTELY agree with your about Bapes….never understood the hype for bootleg AF1s. Funny enough growing up, there was a store in my neighborhood that sold bootleg bapes. 🤣
So true about what you said..... They should make jordan available for everyone. Not just for resellers. 🙏🏻🇮🇳
If these are $300, you can def find some Jordan 1’s for less than that on resell. These do look alright though.
I’m with you on the Bapes - I’ve never understood the point of them. Like you said I just felt like the AF1’s were always better and made more sense. Never understood the point of them and I’ve never owned a pair because of that.
Facts
Agreed. Bapes point is that they are luxary, thats it. Also Kanye the guy that put spotlight on them
One day we'll get preorders in sneakers and it will be amazing
Yea he trippin at $300
The pre order idea is fire. It’s going to serve the ones who really love the sneakers.
It's so they know how much to buy and have the actual money to buy. No other reason lol
@@12tippettm I mean if Nike does it not KIY
Absolutely Bro make them available for everyone pre-order just that simple 💯💪🏾👑🤟🏾
I totally agree the shoe industry overall should change their tactics 👍🏼
As for the bootleg Industry and these in particular although I love a good sturdy box it is sad to see that these are even worse quality than a normal pair of 1s. That's even after he raised the price up 40-50 dollars! I bought a pair like you to see what the hype was about, but despite the great colorways I'd say it definitely was not even close to being worth it. Still gonna wear them into the ground to get good use out of em 🤷🏻♂️
Bro gave most honest Review I ever seen created account just to Prop 👏🏾
Open preorders!! All of your videos are great just given how thorough they are and the camera work, super appreciate that you speak out, and ask for what the people want too.
I have been talking Pre-order for 2 years now. They could raise the price of retail for all I care, as long as I can get a pre-order of them then I'm good.
I also agree that not every shoe needs to be a pre-order. I say that because I think it would keep the game interesting.
i would love if the industry adopted pre-orders for potentially coveted sneakers but when the new Aime Leon Dore x NB 650 did pre-orders, so many said “i’m not waiting six months”
@@jaykim223 yes that's the thing with pre orders it takes time. Look at Travis merchandise
@@328450J yeah those don’t do too well with resell. and it hurts the demand for travis merch at the end of the day cus everyone who really wanted them was able to get em. which, i think, Nike thinks will hurt them in the long run. BUT, like i said, those that really want them will get em. so i think pre-orders are best for consumers, but not sure for Nike
@@jaykim223 true
Pre-orders won't hurt anyone's pockets, or companies margin what so ever. Even if there is a long waiting period, so be it. Anything is better than what we are dealing with now with all these bots and backdooring. Pre-orders won't hurt Nike at all either. The Nike and Jordan brand has been going strong since the 80's and is definitely not slowing down any time soon. Even the weakest of Jordan shoes (Electro Orange for example) sale out dat one. To sit there and say that Pre-orders would slowly kill Nike's hype and be bad for business is absolutely crazy.
So, about pre-orders, while on paper I think its an excellent idea, in practice, it probably wouldnt work so well. If they did that and actually made pairs per order, you start playing with the idea of pre-ordering months to a year in advance to accommodate manufacturing on mass demand for hyped releases, second the days of early pairs and getting reviews and knowing the quality before hand changes dramatically, perhaps they could do a small sample run, but even that far in advance, would the retails pairs even use the same quality materials by then. I think logistically it would be tough to do pre-orders so who ever wants one can get one, even if it is just a hours to days time window for pre-order availability, PLUS I think would probably want to do regular stock because their other partner retailers have to eat too, unless there was some way to pre-order through these retailers. A lot changes when you introduce pre-orders, I would be all for it if it made sense and improved the current sneaker climate, but its a slippery slope that I think could be disasterous, and things are already moving toward disaterous as it is.
Pre-orders for shoes....one per household? Hmmmmm...Very good point!! But we know Nike, and Yeezy will not do that. That would just about kill resellers and make botting for kicks a thing of the past.
One per household is a little hard though cause multiple people who are into shoes live in the same house. Other wise I agree. Maybe a 2 per household or something similar
It's hard to get aj1 highs, but it's also becoming hard to get mids because they are the new trend for IG "influencers" to wear. It went from af1s, to Fila's, and now it's aj1 highs and mids.
Tell me about it I've given up on highs I just try to grab mids and lows now lol
It's so crazy I was telling my son how back when I was in high school Jordan 1s were the lesser Jordans nobody cared about. I had a pair of all white Dunks from the Nike outlet for $60. Now to him those 2 shoes are incredible lol
Sad thing is people would bot the pre orders
I got my Cloud WZRD Menthol 91's today (ColorAlbum). Same approach, But they are dope
I was just talking to my wife and daughter about pre-order. It’s a must. Great content!!
I actually own this colorway and the blue bandana joints. I like these, and his merch is gas. I like the facts he comes up with different colorways.
WOW. Air Kiys made it all the way to WT?
I recently picked up my first pair. I was surprised with the quality and presentation. They also arrived on my doorstep in three or four days.
I wouldn't say Kiys are easy to access though. He doesn't have a simple, consistent way for people to cop and pairs fly when they do drop.
honest reviews are the best reviews. im not into bootleg shoes, i'm not trying to floss on the gram like a lot of people do when they get these knockoffs and actually show them off as real. the closest i got to a bootleg was a S Shock, It lasted a very long time too. I got a real G Shock now though. Case and Point if a person really wants the name brand shoe buy the legit kind. But as we know a lot of people on the gram are fake fake fake, nobody wants to put in the money for real, and that can segway into a lot different things. these shoes yeah they look good, BUT will they fall apart in a week.
We are in an interesting time to be a Sneakerhead, with so many options in the market. Unfortunately the resell market is currently affecting true fans from being able to purchase their favorite sneakers. Hopefully these major “Brands”, will get on board and mass produce top selling sneakers.
unfortunately due to people complaining about the long shipping time kiy said on instagram that he’s no longer doing the preorder model. instead just ordering a set quantity of shoes and if it sells out, it sells out.
Impatient selfish people are the worst.
I was legit about to go into full hate mode about this shoe. Then when you made the point about how much big brands actually care about the average consumer, it made me switch my position and say... well "You can't knock the hustle". Now I wouldn't mess with them personally...I just ain't with the thunder bolt but aye.. you can't knock the hustle. So I ain't mad.. great content as always 👏
Saw this pop up and school work had to wait
Westaide gunn does that with his clothing line. Preorder and hes killing it
Love the vids and the honest reviews as always!!!
I have the pink pair and a royal pair and absolutely love them, solid review and respect your opinions
Hey Chris!
How are you? Hope all is well!
I know this review is 8 Months ago, I agree with you as far what you said about the Sneakers(Bape, The Bootleg Vans, and these). They are suppose to be HIGH END with Bape that I feel was the 1st REAL BOOTLEG of Sneaker with an ACTUAL STORE N CLOTHING LINE. Which had a lot of celebrities attached to the brand and made millions of dollars. I was definitely one of those guys that LOVED BAPE even though I knew it was rip off of Air Force 1 lows. Brands have always copied one another and if Kiy is doing his thing that I guess let him do his thing. The colors are crazy and if this was 10-15 years ago I would’ve been all over it. But it’s not for me personally, nice guy spoke to him on IG, but not for me. Wish them the BEST!!!
Damn both colorways are 🔥🔥🔥 too bad the quality didn’t rise with the price.
Been looking for a legit review of these forever.
A few shop in Maryland have them for resale.
I have the 420 Runtz colorway and have some Suntans on the way; I agree with Chris about these not being worth retail material-wise and I'd especially say they're not worth resale (in my opinion, of course.)
He had a pop up here in miami before the most recent one and the turn out was crazy, I was there cause someone wanted me to pick up a pair for them, they do look dope but def not worth the price but the overall point you mentioned about the state of buying sneakers is key. The only way to battle hype is availability but they fear availability will decrease the demand
Aimè Leon Dore recently did preorders for the New Balance 650 for 24hrs. While it’s not the best solution due to the lead time being months, it’s better than fighting bots fs.
Thank you for reviewing these. I’ve actually been interested in getting a pair, and absolutely want to support people like this that make product available for the people that want it.
Your take on product quality is A1, so kinda a bummer these aren’t super nice, but I’ll still probably plan on getting a pair soon
Now since I've gotten older I've been into more comfy running and hiking shoes. And I've noticed that overseas euro sites carry a larger variety of "runners/trainers/hikers"
We need start petition for that man. Facts about pre-ordering. Tired of taking L cuz of bots.
Damn I actually wanted these two colourways off EBay before I saw this review. Now I'm looking for those Dark Sulfur Dunk's w12 for a reasonable price
100% agree with you. I’m a collector with many grails….I also have a custom collection and no seems to have any issue with a Shoe Surgeon custom, it’s pure hypocrisy and bias.
My lupus pair are getting delivered today
Love that you showed this, pass for me based on the materials but I would be interested in different color ways and a non swoosh
They look like what each power ranger will use,,,the pink ones whit Kimberly 🔥🔥🔥
Hey you get those woomp woomps as Devlin would say hahaha. Loved the review!
I just dropped a video review on the SIA vulture SK8s. Check it out when you get a chance.
Great review
WearTesters, can you do the Air Jordan 1 Mid Wolf Grey Aluminum please?
These are dope. I just can't get with that outsole. Maybe a modified version of the OG 1s outsole would be better than their current mock up.
I like these. The white/grey cw is 🔥🔥🔥🔥.
Can't please everybody. Only way pre-order really works is if its general release and Nike just isn't making a million pairs of Travis Scott 1s and why would they? The re-sellers are the real problem because they just buy up whatever inventory is available
I remember the Ari Menthol 10s haha
Can you do a review of Superb Sportswear’s Turbo 1, Turbo 2 or Stryker? They’re the company that has the actual TM on the bolt logo. They’re super comfortable and really well made ✌🏼
Might be the hardest pink color way I’ve seen on a shoe…ain’t gonna lie! Making me not care about quality cuz those on feet look amazing 🤩
Not a bootleg company and design wise there are similarities, but you should check out the company named Collegium.
i have one of the original Air Kiy ‘Bred’ colorway and i have to say the materials are A-1. My pair still has the AJ1 outsole and here in NYC these are very popular. Wait times were BRUTAL tho; i copped on Thanksgiving for $200 and got them this past May..
100% agree about Nike/JB doing a limited preorder.
But kinda related to the KIY joints: I got the SIA Bred D.1.Y joints and hooooleeee crap do those smell like a Coach store. Like the leather quality is insane. And he paid such attention to the details on the shoe. Would be really interested to see what you think if you snagged a pair! :)
We have reviews on the SIA Sk8
Im down with bootlegs its mostly a fashion thing rather than a sneakerhead thing. I wish they were much cheaper tho i love the lightning on it
Your right Bro..nike should start making pre-order on their shoe..
Honestly these are fire
And the quality looks fire 🔥🚒
There are certain shoes that are a staple in everyone's wardrobe. And the big companies know it, like an all white AF1, or a Stan Smith, those get produced all year round. I think a Jordan 1 Chicago or black toe should be another thing that is produced all year round. I don't know how many pairs I'd buy if they were all year round.
You ever see that video of the dad with like 15 pairs of the same New Balance that he wears for different occasions, because they're all in a different condition. That's how I'd be with the Chicago's or black toes.
Please review Collegium Destroyer Highs! Really really want to hear your breakdown and views on it.
Jim Jones from dipset has every colourway of these... He posted getting them on Instagram the other day... They look 🔥🔥🔥
Look fire but falls apart ...materials is no good
Totally agree with you on how ppl are ok w/Bape but have issues with Bootleg J's.
Looks like Starburst
I think these have potential to be the next bape
Thank You For This Review
Totally agree bro, paying that kind of 💵 to a 👟 must have either great material or comfort..
Wife works for supply chain, they order their supplies 6month to 1yr ahead. They'd have to pre-order their shoes maybe a year or two to get your shoes if they take those pre-orders for specific shoes lol
I agree. But that was the nature of sportswear, if Nike decide the change the way sportswear sell products, it could change the entire supply chain, AI and analytics would be integrated much faster. You never know
@@wuwuisaac In theory it sounds great, but even the biggest supply chain company amazon and even nike it's mostly manual work. Nike, Under armour all of them they use *excel* spreadsheet for their supply chain demands. It's not as easy as you think, AI and analytics don't work really well in the real world situation
@@wuwuisaac In order to make shoes, you need to source materials, and then allocate them to factories and ship it to USA to sell. It sounds simple but they also have to think about the capacity of factories, materials unused (most apparel/shoe companies have this issue) AI isn't gonna cut it. They are not the solution, but more of a reference at this stage
@@hyungwoolee5917 I get what you mean. But do you remember we used to have 3colorways of zoom kobes and now we have 15 colorways of each kyries? Remember clothing is used to like sneakers manufacturing? And now we have Zara and other fast-fashion brand who could do it in a few weeks! We are only limited to our imaginations, sometimes that’s what being in the SAME industry for so long does to you.
@@hyungwoolee5917 I know how manufacturing works, and the largest sneakers manufacturers in Taiwan are working with AI companies and already have tremendous results, but I guess before Nike realize what they could do with new business models, we’ll never know.
Get em before they can’t make em no more! I’m stocking up. Plus they 🔥
Fun fact Nike alos has a trademark on the af1 but only the 07 model if im not mistaken
Yeah, if your gonna do something wrong, do it right!!
That is a great idea. Pre-order so people who actually want the shoes can cop.
If Kiy takes constructive criticism, he’ll take what you said and make his product better. Nike and JB could definitely learn a lot from that process.
Really love the editing on the vids lol "People want their stuff and can't get it." Marketing people left the conversation lol.
Exactly the same as OMI in the hellcat sneaker lol
😂😂😂 true
@@philliphortonRanger501 so who had the design first lol?
@@1katdaddy my money probably Kai 😂
Good review the shoe looks good I would get them but I don’t like the wait. And I would like to see something new in person before I buy it. And to answer your question the reason why Kiy is having a hard time compare to Bape is because newer and he’s black.
I like pre order concept
Truth is that people want J1s BECAUSE they can't get it. Make them available to all (with a pre-order or other release method) and after a while they will start selling less and less.
I agree that yellow pair leather is terrible and I was disappointed in them.
Quick update: 2 years later & kiy still doing big numbers & better things now great things come over time
They will never do preorders. Nike wants people to come back every time they rerelease it.
Thunderbolt vans are a Collab... I'm about to get em. Lol
The revenge storms are not a vans collab, they are not affiliated in any way
I feel you bro, I too, have no clue what the hell is going in the shoe game.