Something about the TV Governor you didn’t mention that I feel is important After he panicked and murdered Martinez, we see Philip crying to himself alone that night and immediately trying to sneak out of camp with his new family. He almost certainly does this to ESCAPE that temptation and keep himself from becoming the Governor again, but the road is totally blocked and forces him to go back. Furthermore, he TRIES to just stay on the sidelines, but Pete (the new leader) almost immediately suggests to Philip that he should help him lead since he has experience and charisma. That just proves Pete to be weak willed and that’s the final straw that forces him to kill him and take over to “protect his family” since he thinks Pete is weak and the camp is in danger (which of course is true in both cases). His outright attempt to run away from himself after having that slip up so he can save his new family and new life from who he once was is SUPER interesting to me and a missed opportunity to talk about here.
Yes I just wrote a comment about that too. That was a very Important scene for the character, weird that he forgot to mention that. It was really sad, like fate did not want him to go. And the way he looks in the car is saying the same. Martinez Camp was full of weak people, no one fit to be the leader, so in the end it falls to him again to be in charge.
Ok, but tell me this, why is Pete weak willed to be seeking council from someone who has a lot of experience? It is often said that wise leaders surround themselves with smart people whose council they can hear and decide what to do.
I remember the group he finds martinez back in had asked the governor TWICE for help leading the people. He definitely didnt want to be one after what happened but his ego is crazy large and just asking him to be helping as leader reminded him of how weak others are in his mind. He was perfectly fine being on the side up until martinez and the other guy asked him. Govenor clearly thinks there should be one leader. And if people ask him for help on that, hed rather take charge alone
Its Brian's flaws not Pete that ends Pete's life. He's completely warped in his head what a leader should be and proves that by being such a terrible leader. A good leader is unafraid to seek counsel. It was Brian's warped ideals and ego that doomed not only himself but the innocents in Woodbury. Never trick yourself into thinking Brian was a capable leader. Sure he was charismatic and bold but these are not the only qualities of a good leader. It didn't take much to topple both of Brian's laughable house of cards he had created. All it took was one person asking questions to ruin everything. The Governor was an ironic title because he truly was one of the worst leaders in all of twd but the writers did an excellent job making him sympathetic. But don't confuse sympathy for competence.
“The smell of gunpowder and you see the blood you know what that means? Means you're alive, you've won. You take the heads so that you don't ever forget.”
Giving the T.V. version a possible redemption arc, even doomed as it is to failure because of his inner demons, was a smart move on the part of the writers. Dangle it in front of us, have us wondering if he'll have the fortitude to change for the better, then rip it all away so we understand why it was never going to happen. Some people just have done too much, like MacBeth, to turn away from the paths they've chosen. The Governor is one.
Something about Brian actively wanting to die at the hands of his brother after his niece dies is so powerful. Morbid, sad, and...weirdly kind of sweet. My favorite kind of horror. That even at the very end, as he goes numb from the beating and can barely think anymore, he just surrenders and lets himself die, clearly feeling he deserves it, and wants his brother to let out his pain.
@@TheeKingTulip666 No I know - admittedly I didn't know when I typed this cause I kept getting the two brothers confused lol - but I know now. I more meant like, he was perfectly willing to let himself die, and his brother just happened to spare him. I can imagine one of his first thoughts when coming to, realizing he'd been spared, was 'why?'.
To this day I believe that the show’s version of The Governor was at least subliminally influenced by Latso Huggin Bear from Toy Story 3. Aside from the genre and rating they are damn near the same character and it is hilarious to me.
Yeah, there is around 8 novels that cover the story of Woodbury and the governors rise and fall, and the town continues to thrive after him, and the story continues without him. I was actually impressed that The Vile Eye had read the novels, because it gives way more information into who Brian/Phillip is, and most people who analyze his character haven't read the novels. I read them all back in like 2019 and had forgotten how disturbing some of it was but they are great books. lol
I would love to see one on Rick Grimes, because he is obviously not completely evil, much the contrary, he is mostly a good man, but capable of a lot of evil.
@@rafaelalodio5116 Yes, I would say Rick and most TWD characters are chaotic neutral at best. No real good vs evil, just chaotic neutral vs neutral evil.
@@jmsgridiron5628 Yeah, I would say Rick and most folk in the twd universe are neutral; neither good nor bad. The only characters I would say a pure evil are the governor and alpha. Rick and the survivors are seen as heroes because we follow their story from the beginning. Negan had only one episode showing a kind of origin story and it shows how different it would have been if we followed Negan’s story till he met Rick. Example: Imagine if we followed the hospital in season 5 from the beginning and see them bump into a feral looking man with a group(Rick and the survivors), we could easily see them as villains or antiheroes at best. Hope I did not yap too much.
Shane was all there until Rick came back. Then he went nuts. I always felt like they would have been safer with Shane than Rick. Like even to the point where Shane would have had to save Rick and family when the SHTF if Rick never went into a coma.
People can say that Negan is a monster but in reality Brian "The Governor/Philip" Blake is the most depraved individual to ever come from the pages of this comic
He's tied with Thomas, the guy from the prison who decapitated two of Hershel's daughters. I can't imagine either character doing something that the other would consider crossing a line.
I love that you covered the books so thoroughly, I feel like most people don't even know about them. I would recommend them to any fans of the comic. They're surprisingly well-written, and Lilly and Martinez in particular are two of my favorite characters in the whole franchise.
Seriously, they’re so good, especially read by Fred Berman on audiobook. After the death of the Governor, where Robert Kirkman is no longer involved, the series really drops off in quality, but even the first couple that follow Lilly Caul afterward are still decent.
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat If you’re talking about the books that continue with Lilly after the Governor dies, not really. Most of them take place in southern Georgia and northern Florida, opposite to where Rick and the gang went, so they never encounter really much of anything from the Comics, which was a shame. It kind of reminds of the Telltale’s The Walking Dead game, but with all of the bad and none of the redeeming qualities. The novels are predictable, lacking in depth, and kind of comical in their peril and violence, a lot of which the characters don’t really take the time to react to save for brief sessions of panic and mourning. For example, at one point there is a child who literally kills their own parent because said parent goes off the deep end and is about to kill Lilly, and the kid, likes, cries for a bit then it’s literally never mentioned again. I still found some enjoyment in all but the last two novels, though. Old Bob the medic stays as a character and is great, and there’s one really interesting overarching villain for a few of the books. And Fred Berman still does a great job.
You missed the scene where TV Governor wants to escape in Martinez camp at night but walkers block his path. That was pretty importent showing he did not want to become the Governor again, rather go away from everything. I think he killed Martinez because he thought Martinez was not a fit leader and could not protect them. I don't think he WANTED the leadership, he felt forced to it to secure the safety of his new family. In the end, he realizes what he is about to become and tries to escape. But walkers blocking the way, it is like fate does not want it.
I thought the exact same. I think since he put so much work into the Comic version of the character, he sort of missed some key character revealing scenes and lines in the show. Can’t really blame him tbh, have a 2 hour episode is pretty crazy, can’t fit EVERYTHING in there.
Also it was incorrect that The Governor convinced the Chambers to leave with him. He didn't want them to join him cause he knew eventually he'd become The Governor again if he had to protect people again in that world. Lily said they were coming with him no matter what he said.
In the end human strengths come from cooperation. Civilization was founded though mutual beliefs against the things that lurk out in the dark. That's what a lot of media forgets
The Governor was so well written in the show i was actually on his side the majority of the time over Michonne. The man had his community running so smooth the people were having picnics in the apocalypse and soon as he asked ppl to fight they all chickened out.
Michonne’s distrust of him didn’t make any sense, she was definitely unreasonable in the show. It was like she had read the comic and knew who he was and no one else did, that’s the only explanation as to why she was acting the way she did
theres something extra funny about a person with chloe from life is strange in their pfp saying they were also at one point on the side of the governor lmao
The comic book version just felt like cartoonishly evil and cruel. The show version did a better job depicting a realistic, yet sick in the head villian
@@PeterGriffin-ji2ctThe comic Governor is very realistic considering how cunning, manipulative, and straightforward he is with what he wants. His cruelty gives answers which is in line with historical evidence with how humans treat each other. He’s pretty much just like some rulers in the past, but you wouldn’t call them “unrealistic” since you can’t relate to them
@@PeterGriffin-ji2ct he's sadly nothing but human, which scares us because we undersrand why he does what he does. He's not even as bad as some cartel members we have today
WOOOOOO LETS GO, The governor is my favourite villain in the walking dead, me and my nan have rewatched the first few seasons so many times now so I could show her this video! Either way I'm glad this villain is getting a long video like this
@@Lalvon_Zelpharr Shane, Negan, The Governor, and Alpha, are the greatest villains from the show ever. So it's all good. All four were compelling. They were the Four Horsemen of the Zombie Apocalypse. If I had to throw in a fifth, it would be Merle. He was great too.
Couple Analysing evil ideas: •Admiral Zhao from ATLA •Tuco Salamanca from Breaking Bad/BCS •Uncle Jack from Breaking Bad •Lord Beckett from Pirates of the Caribbean •Micah Bell from Red Dead Redemption 2
@@sunvinn Yeah Jason Isaacs really did a good performance plus his final fight with Zuko was sick, not surprising he got overlooked considering how well written Ozai and Azula are but he’s still a great villain
Joseph Seed is such a good villain man, definitely my favourite farcry 5 villain and he definitely deserves an analyzing evil video. I wouldn't consider Jacket evil but he's definitely not a good guy, he's a very interesting morally grey character either way
Its interesting how the book Governor is Brian taking up the facade of his Brother actually thinking his Philip where as the TV show Governor is the real and original Phillip Blake but then in his episodes where he is at his lowest he takes up the facade of his Brother Brian for a while till he eventually turned back heel lol
Finally! I am a huge 'Walking Dead' nerd, so I have definitely been waiting for you to get to this batch. I eagerly await your Negan video as he is the franchise's best villain, don't @ me.
I commented requesting The Governor well over a year ago and I thought it was never going to happen, but man did you do it justice as always. I was thinking maybe a 20 minute video but you made it almost 2 hours, hats off to you thank you for work!
Rise of the Governor has always been one of my favorite story lines & it almost seems like it could be set in a completely different franchise & still be such a compelling story.
Really liking these tv villains can’t wait for John “The Homelander” Gillman and William J “Billy” Butcher without a doubt two of the most intriguing villains brought to the screen with outstanding performances from brilliant actors
This is why I love this channel. As a writer, I always strive to make a great villain and just listening to these videos really helps me to set the ground work for some. I don't watch a lot of television so these videos give me insight into truly amazing characters for that purpose.
LET'S GO! TWD's best villain by far. While they tone him down exponentially in the show in terms of his brutality, he's still such a menace. He actually beat Rick thoroughly in a one on one. Dude is tough, seemed to almost be on a path of redemption, and immediately brought back in by his lust for power. Negan's great too, but The Governor is too amazing, especially as the first major human and community leader antagonist.
@@Lutherstrode17492 Not even. The zombies didn't force people to lose their humanity, they could have worked together. Not only that, but the zombies become a non-issue quite quickly as survivors continually adapt. Humans were always a guaranteed threat.
@@aketsuuu it doesn’t really matter how well we adapt to them, the impact they had on us will never go away. Because of monsters, we became monsters ourselves
Negan and Shane, yeah, sure. Sweet Tooth and Calypso... hell yeah. Might be difficult given how many versions of each of them there are though and if we're honest; Twisted Metal doesn't really have much of a story lol
I HATE the comic version of this character. But I LOVED David Morrisey’s performance. I was cheering for the Governor during that redemption arc. Morrisey would be my pick for a new Norman Osborn.
TV Governor is a 🐱 Comic Governor is where it's at. He's what truly changed everything in the comic story and proved without a doubt that the humans were the real threat not the zombies
All of your videos are good, but when I already know things about the character that you cover, I get so excited to hear your opinions. I was so excited for this one I didn’t even notice the length. Saw the size of it and my jaw dropped. Love your work
@@dang_onerattempting to murder your best friend because you think you deserve his wife and son and can better protect them is definitely evil lmfao. If he had actually left with Andrea then he might not have gotten to that point but when he was ready to kill Rick he was evil. Even at Ricks worst he wasn’t that depraved and ruthless. Shane was literally a less cunning and less charismatic Negan in the making.
@@vegitohaze2081 Damn, when you lay it out like that, ok good point. I never really thought he was "evil". More like a guy well suited for the new world that they now inhabit, and what Rick eventually becomes. But yeah, i guess you have a very good point
This is awesome. Rewatching the show, and I was watching and like damn the governor is an evil SOB, I wonder if there’s a video about him. And there isn’t so I’m like wow that’s surprising, but here we go. So many video opportunities in the walking dead universe….
The governor novels are incredibly underrated, they help paint a picture of someone who initially was incredibly weak and scared of their own shadow be shaped by the state of the world he was experiencing and that everyone is capable of awful things if that is what is needed and also if it means survival. If you are a fan of the walking dead definitely read the novels.
Could you please do an analysis of T-Bag from Prison Break? He's one of television's best villains and the way he can shift from charismatic and empathetic to inhumane and monstrous is unlike most other villains in fiction. An analysis of his psyche would be an absolute treasure
Had no idea there was this much lore around the Governor. Cool to learn about though. For a future video, I’d love to see the characters of Doctor Strangelove (or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb). Specifically General Ripper and the titular Strangelove but also maybe all of them to a lesser degree, as they all contributed in some way to the world ending in nuclear war at the end.
Thank you vile I've been asking for years man amd this video did an awesome job comparing the show and comic I prefer the show version but I still really think his a good villian in the comics
I think an Analyzing Evil on Homelander would be nice, especially with more of homelander’s childhood being revealed in the show. Love the content as always!
Homelander’s a great villain ngl. He has the face of a movie star, the power of a god, the influence of a politician, and the mental state of an abused child
My wife and I watched every episode of AMCs Walking Dead on Sunday when it aired for six seasons… I hated(and therefore loved) The Governor as a character. Had I read the graphic novels or novelization before, I think I would’ve hated(truly hated) him. Thanks for the synopsis of the literary characters, it was really interesting to hear the original intention vs. my memories of one of my favorite series of all time
The governor is a much better character and villain than Negan. Negan can atleast be reasoned with and he can change, as he did. Negans also more rational and level headed which can make him scarier but he still had a good side to him, but the governor was pure evil. After watching your video tho the governor is a truly damaged and broken man and feel bad for him, after your analysis, it becomes clear that the governor was forced into this through so much trauma and I can’t really call him outright evil. Great video analysis man!
I’m not a big sci-fi fan. But I gave The Walking Dead a chance after it’d been around a few years. The Governor was my favorite character of the series. At least up to six or seven. Was so disappointed about Neegan that I never watched the rest of the show. I love these complex characters. Especially the bad guys and the backstory of how they got there.
I never really rolled with Negan and the rest of the story, the Governor was peak and after him I wasn't sure why I was still watching. They killed off his new daughter in the most insane way and that was to much. So when Glenn became immortal, respawning inside dumpsters every time his guts were ripped open, I just dropped it.
Hope to see these covered some day: - Joe Cooper (Killer Joe) - Nino Brown (New Jack City) - Jake "The Muss" Heke (Once Were Warriors) - Dr. X (from the Operation: Mindcrime albums by Queensrÿche)
Some ideas i have for new Analyzing evil videos: Homelander from The Boys Eric Cartman from South Park Death from Puss in Boots Fairy Godmother from Shrek 2 Azulin from Unicorn Wars Dio Brando or Yoshikage Kira from JoJo bizzare adventures
Phillip didnt want the power again though. He killed Martinez cause he was doubting himself on wether can keep everyone safe especially cause he was talking about his new family that he found. "I dont want it damn it I DONT WANT IT I DONT WANT I I DONT WANT IT" He also did try to escape with the family knowing what was going to happen to him but couldnt and was stucklol
Analyzing Evil: Attila Mellanchini (1900) Analyzing Evil: The Theme and Characters of West Side Story (Both Musical and Films) Analyzing Evil: Santa Blanca Cartel (Ghost Recon Wildlands)
At 50 seconds into the video, it shall be stated that the Governor was Far and Away the most interesting character in the television series 'the walking dead'! Neegan was good enough, up to a point. Thanks for discussing him.
Please do Miquella from Elden Ring. He is a Griffith-esque character with a lot of evil and depth. Also due to Elden Ring peaking in popularity right now the video will blow up
I'd like to suggest: - Analyzing Evil: Frank from Once Upon a Time in the West - Analyzing Evil: Thor "The Swede" Gundersen from Hell on Wheels - Analyzing Evil: Park Yeon-jin from The Glory
So many awesome suggestions in the comments. Which is fitting for how exquisitely thorough this channel is. My favorite anime Black Lagoon may have some characters worth analysis.
The vile eye when the pleasant ear walks in: 😱🫠😶🌫️
The Divine Nose 👃 🙏
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 🗿
The Malevolent Mouth
As long as you don't invite The Holy Tibia in we're good.
The Decidedly Neutral Back-of-the-Neck
Something about the TV Governor you didn’t mention that I feel is important
After he panicked and murdered Martinez, we see Philip crying to himself alone that night and immediately trying to sneak out of camp with his new family. He almost certainly does this to ESCAPE that temptation and keep himself from becoming the Governor again, but the road is totally blocked and forces him to go back. Furthermore, he TRIES to just stay on the sidelines, but Pete (the new leader) almost immediately suggests to Philip that he should help him lead since he has experience and charisma. That just proves Pete to be weak willed and that’s the final straw that forces him to kill him and take over to “protect his family” since he thinks Pete is weak and the camp is in danger (which of course is true in both cases).
His outright attempt to run away from himself after having that slip up so he can save his new family and new life from who he once was is SUPER interesting to me and a missed opportunity to talk about here.
Yes I just wrote a comment about that too. That was a very Important scene for the character, weird that he forgot to mention that. It was really sad, like fate did not want him to go. And the way he looks in the car is saying the same. Martinez Camp was full of weak people, no one fit to be the leader, so in the end it falls to him again to be in charge.
Ok, but tell me this, why is Pete weak willed to be seeking council from someone who has a lot of experience? It is often said that wise leaders surround themselves with smart people whose council they can hear and decide what to do.
@@kristijan12 I'd say Pete isn't weak for that. More that Brian doesn't believe that leadership is to be shared. A flaw of Brians not Petes.
I remember the group he finds martinez back in had asked the governor TWICE for help leading the people. He definitely didnt want to be one after what happened but his ego is crazy large and just asking him to be helping as leader reminded him of how weak others are in his mind. He was perfectly fine being on the side up until martinez and the other guy asked him.
Govenor clearly thinks there should be one leader. And if people ask him for help on that, hed rather take charge alone
Its Brian's flaws not Pete that ends Pete's life. He's completely warped in his head what a leader should be and proves that by being such a terrible leader.
A good leader is unafraid to seek counsel. It was Brian's warped ideals and ego that doomed not only himself but the innocents in Woodbury.
Never trick yourself into thinking Brian was a capable leader. Sure he was charismatic and bold but these are not the only qualities of a good leader. It didn't take much to topple both of Brian's laughable house of cards he had created. All it took was one person asking questions to ruin everything.
The Governor was an ironic title because he truly was one of the worst leaders in all of twd but the writers did an excellent job making him sympathetic.
But don't confuse sympathy for competence.
I'm gonna tell you the secret. There's a threat, you end it. And you don't feel ashamed about enjoying it-The Governor.
This from the comic or the show?
“The smell of gunpowder and you see the blood you know what that means? Means you're alive, you've won. You take the heads so that you don't ever forget.”
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@@nicholasbodo4327 show
I’m fairly sure I’ve said this IRL at some point.
Giving the T.V. version a possible redemption arc, even doomed as it is to failure because of his inner demons, was a smart move on the part of the writers. Dangle it in front of us, have us wondering if he'll have the fortitude to change for the better, then rip it all away so we understand why it was never going to happen. Some people just have done too much, like MacBeth, to turn away from the paths they've chosen. The Governor is one.
“He just lost it, the man in charge.”
- The Governor
Loved that moment, what a good portrayal
“Feel ya”
-Nero
I barley made it out alive
Something about Brian actively wanting to die at the hands of his brother after his niece dies is so powerful. Morbid, sad, and...weirdly kind of sweet. My favorite kind of horror. That even at the very end, as he goes numb from the beating and can barely think anymore, he just surrenders and lets himself die, clearly feeling he deserves it, and wants his brother to let out his pain.
Does it go down like that I was just as confused but pretty sure the Governor is Brian
@@TheeKingTulip666 No I know - admittedly I didn't know when I typed this cause I kept getting the two brothers confused lol - but I know now. I more meant like, he was perfectly willing to let himself die, and his brother just happened to spare him. I can imagine one of his first thoughts when coming to, realizing he'd been spared, was 'why?'.
To this day I believe that the show’s version of The Governor was at least subliminally influenced by Latso Huggin Bear from Toy Story 3. Aside from the genre and rating they are damn near the same character and it is hilarious to me.
that is true lol
Never looked at it like that but very true.... fantastic character
Wow! I didn’t think there’d be so much story behind this character
Yeah, there is around 8 novels that cover the story of Woodbury and the governors rise and fall, and the town continues to thrive after him, and the story continues without him.
I was actually impressed that The Vile Eye had read the novels, because it gives way more information into who Brian/Phillip is, and most people who analyze his character haven't read the novels. I read them all back in like 2019 and had forgotten how disturbing some of it was but they are great books. lol
@@panspermiapancakes that many novels for the governor? I really didn’t think the character had that much love to get this many
@@medaman15able The story continues after his death, it's not 8 novels of just the governor.
I bet even the Governor himself was only able to see about half of too lol
I’m kind of blown away, I may have under rated this comic series and I might have to read it now, I got so invested almost immediately lol
This open the door for videos on Negan, Shane, Rick, terminus and Alpha
I would love to see one on Rick Grimes, because he is obviously not completely evil, much the contrary, he is mostly a good man, but capable of a lot of evil.
Glad you mentioned Rick. He does his best but he is by no means wholely good.
@@rafaelalodio5116 Yes, I would say Rick and most TWD characters are chaotic neutral at best. No real good vs evil, just chaotic neutral vs neutral evil.
@@jmsgridiron5628 Yeah, I would say Rick and most folk in the twd universe are neutral; neither good nor bad. The only characters I would say a pure evil are the governor and alpha.
Rick and the survivors are seen as heroes because we follow their story from the beginning. Negan had only one episode showing a kind of origin story and it shows how different it would have been if we followed Negan’s story till he met Rick.
Example: Imagine if we followed the hospital in season 5 from the beginning and see them bump into a feral looking man with a group(Rick and the survivors), we could easily see them as villains or antiheroes at best.
Hope I did not yap too much.
Shane was all there until Rick came back. Then he went nuts. I always felt like they would have been safer with Shane than Rick. Like even to the point where Shane would have had to save Rick and family when the SHTF if Rick never went into a coma.
People can say that Negan is a monster but in reality Brian "The Governor/Philip" Blake is the most depraved individual to ever come from the pages of this comic
He's tied with Thomas, the guy from the prison who decapitated two of Hershel's daughters. I can't imagine either character doing something that the other would consider crossing a line.
I love that you covered the books so thoroughly, I feel like most people don't even know about them. I would recommend them to any fans of the comic. They're surprisingly well-written, and Lilly and Martinez in particular are two of my favorite characters in the whole franchise.
Seriously, they’re so good, especially read by Fred Berman on audiobook. After the death of the Governor, where Robert Kirkman is no longer involved, the series really drops off in quality, but even the first couple that follow Lilly Caul afterward are still decent.
@@opti6019 Oh man I didn't know they kept going! Good for her, she deserves it.
Do they get away from the formula we all know of?
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat They basically show the comics storyline from Lilly and Brian's POVs.
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat If you’re talking about the books that continue with Lilly after the Governor dies, not really. Most of them take place in southern Georgia and northern Florida, opposite to where Rick and the gang went, so they never encounter really much of anything from the Comics, which was a shame. It kind of reminds of the Telltale’s The Walking Dead game, but with all of the bad and none of the redeeming qualities. The novels are predictable, lacking in depth, and kind of comical in their peril and violence, a lot of which the characters don’t really take the time to react to save for brief sessions of panic and mourning. For example, at one point there is a child who literally kills their own parent because said parent goes off the deep end and is about to kill Lilly, and the kid, likes, cries for a bit then it’s literally never mentioned again. I still found some enjoyment in all but the last two novels, though. Old Bob the medic stays as a character and is great, and there’s one really interesting overarching villain for a few of the books. And Fred Berman still does a great job.
You missed the scene where TV Governor wants to escape in Martinez camp at night but walkers block his path. That was pretty importent showing he did not want to become the Governor again, rather go away from everything.
I think he killed Martinez because he thought Martinez was not a fit leader and could not protect them.
I don't think he WANTED the leadership, he felt forced to it to secure the safety of his new family.
In the end, he realizes what he is about to become and tries to escape. But walkers blocking the way, it is like fate does not want it.
I thought the exact same. I think since he put so much work into the Comic version of the character, he sort of missed some key character revealing scenes and lines in the show. Can’t really blame him tbh, have a 2 hour episode is pretty crazy, can’t fit EVERYTHING in there.
Also it was incorrect that The Governor convinced the Chambers to leave with him. He didn't want them to join him cause he knew eventually he'd become The Governor again if he had to protect people again in that world. Lily said they were coming with him no matter what he said.
Am I the only one that thought of the Emperor’s speech in Revenge of the Sith when the Governor was talking about Rick’s group?
"Rick Grimes is taking over!"
In the end human strengths come from cooperation. Civilization was founded though mutual beliefs against the things that lurk out in the dark. That's what a lot of media forgets
Reminds me of silent hill The message, and how inherently incorrect the characters beliefs are in that matter
We have one ultimate enemy: nature
The Governor was so well written in the show i was actually on his side the majority of the time over Michonne. The man had his community running so smooth the people were having picnics in the apocalypse and soon as he asked ppl to fight they all chickened out.
Michonne’s distrust of him didn’t make any sense, she was definitely unreasonable in the show. It was like she had read the comic and knew who he was and no one else did, that’s the only explanation as to why she was acting the way she did
theres something extra funny about a person with chloe from life is strange in their pfp saying they were also at one point on the side of the governor lmao
@@PKFireFawx they're both kinds of media where there's a "x did nothing wrong" type of crowd
@@user-uk7qt8ui1rIt’s like people that glaze Soldier Boy in the Boys even though he routinely abused his team before being captured by the Russians.
@@PKFireFawx What can i say, I'm a me and mine before the rest of the world person lmao
You feel bad for this guy when you see him lose himself on the show. You smile and nod when he meets his end in the comics.
The comic book version just felt like cartoonishly evil and cruel. The show version did a better job depicting a realistic, yet sick in the head villian
@@PeterGriffin-ji2ctThe comic Governor is very realistic considering how cunning, manipulative, and straightforward he is with what he wants. His cruelty gives answers which is in line with historical evidence with how humans treat each other. He’s pretty much just like some rulers in the past, but you wouldn’t call them “unrealistic” since you can’t relate to them
@@PeterGriffin-ji2ct he's sadly nothing but human, which scares us because we undersrand why he does what he does. He's not even as bad as some cartel members we have today
I never knew he was once a man of morals and fear. He basically just pretended to be his brother. And threw aways half of what he once was.
WOOOOOO LETS GO, The governor is my favourite villain in the walking dead, me and my nan have rewatched the first few seasons so many times now so I could show her this video! Either way I'm glad this villain is getting a long video like this
The Governor is one of my favorite villains. So much complexity and tragedy.
I completely agree
I prefer The Governor over Negan and I'll die on that hill
Shane is more compelling than both. Give me him.
@@JayCity10 Nah, a comic book governor is pretty goddamn complicated
@@Lalvon_Zelpharr Shane, Negan, The Governor, and Alpha, are the greatest villains from the show ever. So it's all good. All four were compelling. They were the
Four Horsemen of the Zombie Apocalypse. If I had to throw in a fifth, it would be Merle. He was great too.
I prefer The Governor as an antagonist but I can’t help but love Negan’s charisma and characterization.
@@djdeadbeat4380 A piece of the show died with Shane. He was that spark.
Couple Analysing evil ideas:
•Admiral Zhao from ATLA
•Tuco Salamanca from Breaking Bad/BCS
•Uncle Jack from Breaking Bad
•Lord Beckett from Pirates of the Caribbean
•Micah Bell from Red Dead Redemption 2
Clay morrow from sons of anarchy and EZ Rayez from Mayans would be good too.
Zhao would be nice, pretty overlooked character (though understandably so). His downfall is one of my favorite things about season one.
Dameon Targaryen from House of Dragon would be an excellent character to cover.
that low down rat micah isn't worth a twenty minute video
@@sunvinn Yeah Jason Isaacs really did a good performance plus his final fight with Zuko was sick, not surprising he got overlooked considering how well written Ozai and Azula are but he’s still a great villain
Video game Villain/Evil suggestions
- Jacket (Hotline Miami 1) / 50 Blessings (HM1/HM2)
- Martin Walker (Spec Ops : The Line)
- The Master (Fallout 1)
- Darth Kreia (KOTOR)
- Joseph Seed (Far Cry 5)
Joseph Seed is such a good villain man, definitely my favourite farcry 5 villain and he definitely deserves an analyzing evil video. I wouldn't consider Jacket evil but he's definitely not a good guy, he's a very interesting morally grey character either way
man, we need a video on Martin Walker.
Definitely need a video about The Master from fallout 1
Jacket didn't really do anything wrong
Darth Traya is actually a really good pick for a vid cuz she is much more complex and layered compared to most other villains in Star Wars
Its interesting how the book Governor is Brian taking up the facade of his Brother actually thinking his Philip where as the TV show Governor is the real and original Phillip Blake but then in his episodes where he is at his lowest he takes up the facade of his Brother Brian for a while till he eventually turned back heel lol
Finally! I am a huge 'Walking Dead' nerd, so I have definitely been waiting for you to get to this batch. I eagerly await your Negan video as he is the franchise's best villain, don't @ me.
“In this life now you kill or you die. Or you die and you kill.”
- The Governor
I commented requesting The Governor well over a year ago and I thought it was never going to happen, but man did you do it justice as always. I was thinking maybe a 20 minute video but you made it almost 2 hours, hats off to you thank you for work!
Rise of the Governor has always been one of my favorite story lines & it almost seems like it could be set in a completely different franchise & still be such a compelling story.
Really liking these tv villains can’t wait for John “The Homelander” Gillman and William J “Billy” Butcher without a doubt two of the most intriguing villains brought to the screen with outstanding performances from brilliant actors
This is why I love this channel. As a writer, I always strive to make a great villain and just listening to these videos really helps me to set the ground work for some. I don't watch a lot of television so these videos give me insight into truly amazing characters for that purpose.
Thank you so much for covering the comic!
Please do the same when covering Negan, it would mean a lot.
Holy 2 hour analyzing evil video and about my favorite walking dead villain?!
LET'S GO! TWD's best villain by far. While they tone him down exponentially in the show in terms of his brutality, he's still such a menace. He actually beat Rick thoroughly in a one on one. Dude is tough, seemed to almost be on a path of redemption, and immediately brought back in by his lust for power. Negan's great too, but The Governor is too amazing, especially as the first major human and community leader antagonist.
The Governor, Shane, Negan, and Alpha, are the four horsemen of Zombie Apocalypse. No greater villains, than these four.
Aren’t the zombies the best WD villains? They’re the reason everything in the series happened
@@Lutherstrode17492 Not even. The zombies didn't force people to lose their humanity, they could have worked together. Not only that, but the zombies become a non-issue quite quickly as survivors continually adapt. Humans were always a guaranteed threat.
@@aketsuuu how coudl the zombies work together with us? They can’t feel emotion
@@aketsuuu it doesn’t really matter how well we adapt to them, the impact they had on us will never go away.
Because of monsters, we became monsters ourselves
Analyzing evil suggestions:
Soa: clay morrow
Soa: gemma teller
Mayans: Ezekiel
Devilman: ryo satan
Dead space: unitolgist
Twd:negan
Twd:shane
Twisted metal: sweet teeth
Twisted metal: Calypso
Naruto:Orochimaru
Naruto: Madara uchiha
Black ops zombies: Richthofen
The boys: homelander
The boys: billy butcher
Naruto omg
Negan and Shane, yeah, sure.
Sweet Tooth and Calypso... hell yeah. Might be difficult given how many versions of each of them there are though and if we're honest; Twisted Metal doesn't really have much of a story lol
@@stumblingunnar3407Twisted Metal Black versions of both of them have much deeper lore that he can cover
Madara would make for a good video
TWD: Rick Grimes
Ah one of my fav villians of all time! Thanks for covering him. Would love to see more Walking Dead content at some point!
Yessir bro just what I wanted, an analysis on the best TWD villain
Absolutely fascinating. I never knew there was so much more depth to the character until hearing about his depiction in written media. Great video
I HATE the comic version of this character.
But I LOVED David Morrisey’s performance. I was cheering for the Governor during that redemption arc.
Morrisey would be my pick for a new Norman Osborn.
TV Governor is a 🐱 Comic Governor is where it's at. He's what truly changed everything in the comic story and proved without a doubt that the humans were the real threat not the zombies
He had a redemption arc? Huh
For whatever reason, he's the only villain out of countless villains that legit intimidate and scare me.
kinda like the judge from blood meridian.
Yes a Governor episode! Would cool to see you cover the other Walking Dead characters like Shane and Negan
All of your videos are good, but when I already know things about the character that you cover, I get so excited to hear your opinions.
I was so excited for this one I didn’t even notice the length. Saw the size of it and my jaw dropped. Love your work
Such a good episode, can’t wait for you to cover Negan that will be an interesting episode
I had no idea about The Governor being in the comics. Found his backstory to be helpful
Analyzing evil: Negan TWD
Analyzing evil: Shane TWD
I don’t think he’ll do Negan until Dead City finishes, but he can totally do Shane
Shane wasn't evil though
@@dang_onerattempting to murder your best friend because you think you deserve his wife and son and can better protect them is definitely evil lmfao. If he had actually left with Andrea then he might not have gotten to that point but when he was ready to kill Rick he was evil. Even at Ricks worst he wasn’t that depraved and ruthless. Shane was literally a less cunning and less charismatic Negan in the making.
@@vegitohaze2081 Damn, when you lay it out like that, ok good point. I never really thought he was "evil". More like a guy well suited for the new world that they now inhabit, and what Rick eventually becomes. But yeah, i guess you have a very good point
How about Gareth or Alpha but I don't know if Gareth had like some interesting backstory or somethin
For all the flaws of The Walking Dead you can't deny that The Governor was amazing in the show
Nah the Governor was neutered in the show. Walking Dead should have been on HBO so it could go all out
One of the best characters in TWD glad you covered this
My favorite character on the show. Should have gotten his own spin off.
I didn’t know the comic version of this. Your narrative was riveting to hear. Perfection. *chef’s kiss”
This is awesome. Rewatching the show, and I was watching and like damn the governor is an evil SOB, I wonder if there’s a video about him. And there isn’t so I’m like wow that’s surprising, but here we go. So many video opportunities in the walking dead universe….
goated villian with so many layers deserves the 2 hour vid
Villain suggestions for the next video:
-Handsome Jack from Borderland
-Joseph Seed from FarCry 5
-Eric Cartman from South Park
lol I have been waiting for this one of the most underrated villains on television
The governor novels are incredibly underrated, they help paint a picture of someone who initially was incredibly weak and scared of their own shadow be shaped by the state of the world he was experiencing and that everyone is capable of awful things if that is what is needed and also if it means survival. If you are a fan of the walking dead definitely read the novels.
I have been waiting for this video for SO long 🔥🔥🔥
Do Shane, Negan, or the Whisperers next!
Could you please do an analysis of T-Bag from Prison Break? He's one of television's best villains and the way he can shift from charismatic and empathetic to inhumane and monstrous is unlike most other villains in fiction. An analysis of his psyche would be an absolute treasure
Ah yes, prison break
Would have loved a whole series on The Governors backstory! And the hole book series!
Had no idea there was this much lore around the Governor. Cool to learn about though.
For a future video, I’d love to see the characters of Doctor Strangelove (or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb). Specifically General Ripper and the titular Strangelove but also maybe all of them to a lesser degree, as they all contributed in some way to the world ending in nuclear war at the end.
Thank you vile I've been asking for years man amd this video did an awesome job comparing the show and comic I prefer the show version but I still really think his a good villian in the comics
The show governor has to be one of my favourite villains of all time
I think an Analyzing Evil on Homelander would be nice, especially with more of homelander’s childhood being revealed in the show. Love the content as always!
When the show is over, he says he will.
He needs to do a separate video on Vought
Homelander’s a great villain ngl. He has the face of a movie star, the power of a god, the influence of a politician, and the mental state of an abused child
Thanks for this amazing and incredibly well done analysis of The Governor from The Walking Dead. Best wishes from Iceland!!
Lord cutler Beckett from Pirates of the Caribbean would be great
14:17 very kind for the gunman to stop existing for about 3 minutes
Wow I’m surprised you haven’t already made a video on Governor since he’s the best antagonist in TWD imo
I would utterly love to see you take on Handsome Jack
This might be the best analysing evil yet
Awesome job
Been waiting on this video a long time! Thanks For this!
The governor breaks Rick , and he becomes more savage like after word’s .
Would love to see a video on:
Kira Yoshikage from Jojo.
Ivar the Boneless from Vikings.
King Ghidorah from Godzilla: King of the Monsters.
As cool as Ghidorah is, it's kind of hard to make a video on a giant 3-headed dragon who doesn't speak in ONE movie.
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My wife and I watched every episode of AMCs Walking Dead on Sunday when it aired for six seasons… I hated(and therefore loved) The Governor as a character. Had I read the graphic novels or novelization before, I think I would’ve hated(truly hated) him. Thanks for the synopsis of the literary characters, it was really interesting to hear the original intention vs. my memories of one of my favorite series of all time
The governor is a much better character and villain than Negan. Negan can atleast be reasoned with and he can change, as he did. Negans also more rational and level headed which can make him scarier but he still had a good side to him, but the governor was pure evil. After watching your video tho the governor is a truly damaged and broken man and feel bad for him, after your analysis, it becomes clear that the governor was forced into this through so much trauma and I can’t really call him outright evil. Great video analysis man!
TV Governor is GOATED
such an amazing and intresting villan they dont make villans like this anymore in twd by far the best in the whole show
"you smell the gunpowder and see the blood you know what that means? it means your alive. it means you won. you take the heads so you don't forget "
"Welcome to Woodbury"
I would like to suggest : Revolver Ocelot from Metal Gear series
8 hour long video incoming
He's the epitome of neutral though
@@lpnp9477 yeah kinda true lmao
Great video analysis like always man, I would love a video about Shane Walsh.
Andrew Lincoln looks more like Comic Govenor than the show's actor Lol
I’m not a big sci-fi fan. But I gave The Walking Dead a chance after it’d been around a few years. The Governor was my favorite character of the series. At least up to six or seven. Was so disappointed about Neegan that I never watched the rest of the show. I love these complex characters. Especially the bad guys and the backstory of how they got there.
The illustration of the Governor in the thumbnail looks more like Danny Trejo with an eye patch.
I never really rolled with Negan and the rest of the story, the Governor was peak and after him I wasn't sure why I was still watching.
They killed off his new daughter in the most insane way and that was to much. So when Glenn became immortal, respawning inside dumpsters every time his guts were ripped open, I just dropped it.
Hope to see these covered some day:
- Joe Cooper (Killer Joe)
- Nino Brown (New Jack City)
- Jake "The Muss" Heke (Once Were Warriors)
- Dr. X (from the Operation: Mindcrime albums by Queensrÿche)
Some ideas i have for new Analyzing evil videos:
Homelander from The Boys
Eric Cartman from South Park
Death from Puss in Boots
Fairy Godmother from Shrek 2
Azulin from Unicorn Wars
Dio Brando or Yoshikage Kira from JoJo bizzare adventures
Phillip didnt want the power again though. He killed Martinez cause he was doubting himself on wether can keep everyone safe especially cause he was talking about his new family that he found. "I dont want it damn it I DONT WANT IT I DONT WANT I I DONT WANT IT" He also did try to escape with the family knowing what was going to happen to him but couldnt and was stucklol
Maybe you could do The Swede from hell on wheels someday.
He's a great villain
Analyzing Evil: Attila Mellanchini (1900)
Analyzing Evil: The Theme and Characters of West Side Story (Both Musical and Films)
Analyzing Evil: Santa Blanca Cartel (Ghost Recon Wildlands)
At 50 seconds into the video, it shall be stated that the Governor was Far and Away the most interesting character in the television series 'the walking dead'!
Neegan was good enough, up to a point.
Thanks for discussing him.
Please do Miquella from Elden Ring. He is a Griffith-esque character with a lot of evil and depth. Also due to Elden Ring peaking in popularity right now the video will blow up
Unfortunately, trauma, abuse, and whatnot made them monsters. Good men made evil.
greatest villain ever to grace TWD
Been waiting for this one ever since I found the channel
I’m so glad you included the books in this aswell. Absolutely incredible books.
It has not been 5 years has it!? Wow, time flies. Congratulations man. Wishing you continued success and growth
The quality of your videos is second to none! All are written very well thank you
I always thought the governor was so good all other villans couldn't match up
YOOO HE ACTUALLY DID IT
I'd like to suggest:
- Analyzing Evil: Frank from Once Upon a Time in the West
- Analyzing Evil: Thor "The Swede" Gundersen from Hell on Wheels
- Analyzing Evil: Park Yeon-jin from The Glory
Thor Gundersen should definitely be a great villain for Analyzing Evil.
Oh man Swede would be so cool
Hey! The swede was Norwegian!
Ooh the swede is a good one
The Swede from Norway would DEFINITELY get my vote!
Brava!
Love & Light from Miami Shores🦚
Stay safe mates✌🏼🌎
So many awesome suggestions in the comments. Which is fitting for how exquisitely thorough this channel is. My favorite anime Black Lagoon may have some characters worth analysis.
You should do Boyd Crowder from Justified some day.
excellent work on covering The Governor from beginning to end hope to see you cover Negan sooner or latter
YESSS I REQUESTED THIS LIKE A MONTH AGO!! WOOHOOOOO , THANK YOU VILE EYE