Aer Lingus Airbus A333 declared PAN-PAN | Real ATC with a compressor stall after takeoff.
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
09-AUG-2022. An Aer Lingus Airbus A330-300 (A333), registration EI-FNG, performing flight EIN13J from Windsor Locks Bradley International Airport, CT (USA) to Boston Logan International Airport, MA (USA) after departure was informed by other pilot about fumes from the engine. About 1 minute later the crew declared PAN-PAN, reported compressor stall and requested return to Windsor Locks.
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EIN13J: Shamrock 13J…
TOWER: Shamrock 13J, affirmative, turn right heading 190… cleared for take-off.
EIN13J: Cleared for take-off RW…, Shamrock 13J.
N178CF: Tower, N178CF.
TOWER: N178CF, Bradley.
N178CF: Best I could tell, about 1000 feet AGL that Shamrock let out a burst of… fume of the right engine.
TOWER: Shamrock 13J, any issues with your right engine?
EIN13J: Yeah, we are just sorting that out. Did you see anything on the ground there?
TOWER: Pilot just reported it.
EIN13J: Yeah, we had a big long bang with no indications here just yet. So we’re just gonna level-off at 4000 for a moment.
TOWER: Okay, if you need to circle back for RW 6, let me know. Do you wanna stay on this frequency or go to Departure?
EIN13J: Stay on this frequency for a moment, Shamrock 13J.
TOWER: Roger.
DAL2251: Tower, Delta 2251.
TOWER: Say again.
DAL2251: 2251, I saw… It looked like a compressor stall on his right motor.
TOWER: Delta 2251, thank you.
EIN13J: And Shamrock 13J, PAN-PAN-PAN, we would like to return to the airport. And we’ve just got a compressor stall in our engine.
TOWER: Shamrock 13J, wind 320 at 5 RW 6 cleared to land.
EIN13J: Cleared to land, Shamrock 13J. Just confirm… fly heading again?
TOWER: Heading 32…
EIN13J: Shamrock 13J, give me a heading again.
TOWER: RW 6 cleared to land.
EIN13J: We need radar headings just for a moment. We’re leveling at 4000. We just need a minute or two to get it sorted. So just let me down ... extended downwind.
TOWER: Okay, turn right heading 240 and I’ll hand you off to Approach control for vectors.
EIN13J: Heading 240, that’s copied, Shamrock 13J.
UAL2042: United 2042, visual 24.
TOWER: United 2042, Bradley Tower, cancel approach clearance, turn right heading 330, climb and maintain 3000.
UAL2042: Alright, say that again?
TOWER: 2250, stand by, Shamrock 13J Heavy, contact Bradley Approach now 123.95, expect vectors for RW 6.
EIN13J: 123.95, copy, Shamrock 13J.
EIN13J: Shamrock 13J, with you, requesting return to the field, we’ve a compressor stall on number 2 engine. It's not shut down yet.
APPROACH: And I’m sorry, I think I stepped on you, Shamrock 13J, Bradley, go ahead.
EIN13J: We are leveling now at 3500. Request radar vectors for an immediate return to RW 06.
APPROACH: Shamrock 13J, Bradley Approach, maintain 3000 and you can fly heading 240.
EIN13J: Heading 240, down to 3000, Shamrock 13J.
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Great communication from the Aer Lingus pilot.
I am a supervisor at BDL. I fueled this when it initially diverted here. It's still there. They will be completely changing their number 2 engine.
Thank you for your comment. Glad they landed safely.
So what became of all the passengers?
@@YouCanSeeATC No problem!
@@msjdb723 They ended up bussing the 314 total people including crew up to Boston. Very long day for them. They actually went back to the gate in DUB due to a medical emergency. So they left 2 hours late from DUB before they diverted from BOS to BDL.
@@dad325 Oh my...🥴 - hopefully they all recovered now from this adventure!
Kudos to the pilot, clear succinct communication
I want that pilot on my flight, so calm and professional!
That's the Irish for ya
It was Liam Neeson !
Nothing as nice to hear as sheer professionalism 👍🏼
👍😎 You are right.
I love the Irish accent. It's very pleasant and clear.
Dares more to Ireland Dan dis
@@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 Deres dem doz dis and dat
Aer Lingus pilot sounds very competent, I liked that they weren't taking any chances and wanted everything checked out.
Saw this plane diverting to BDL during a pretty strong storm we had in Boston, looks like a long day was to be had for those folks.
Again, excellent communication to and by all. . . Kudos!! 👍✈✈👍
Can’t beat the Irish. Great pilots
Professionals in action.
👍😎
Excellent job by all involved 👍👏☘
One correction to the subtitles - she said "we can't exit onto Hotel". It sounds as if that was because of the fire and rescue vehicles being at that exit.
I knew it was going to be okay when I heard Liam Neeson was flying the plane.
Apparently there is a stepping on each other over the radio problem in Connecticut.
It’s the whole of the east coast. The standard of ATC is embarrassing
That pilot knew EXACTLY what she wanted and communicated it clearly and firmly. She also chose to err on the side of caution and have services on standby which was a very smart move.
I thought it was a lady first, but I’m fairly sure it was a male voice
@@bigmartin I just listened again and it's a toss up. Either way, the pilot did a great job.
@@UnknownUzer : I'll let him know that she sounded great
It was middle aged male pilot !
There is no hint of a female voice.
If you can’t tell the difference how the f**k are you going to reproduce!
@@khiggins7231 Listen, I know that people who suffer from like conditions tend to take up for one another, but seriously No one is calling out their, or your, obvious low testosterone levels.
Yes the voice on the recording above would indicate the testosterone level of an average 12 year old girl, but You and he should not feel discouraged.
Though you will have to spend your lives correcting people who call you "Ma'am" on the phone, you can also celebrate the fact that you have very little risk of things such as prostate cancer or male pattern baldness, when compared to those with average testosterone levels.
Chin up, young man.
Just love the comms of the EU pilots. Clear, unambiguous and helping ATC understand the situation without having to be asked.
Go listen to Aer Lingus fly into DUB and tell me if you still believe that. ;) lol
They were even nice enough to convert fuel to pounds without having to be asked for it. Generally I feel EU pilots have better communication with ATC and amongst one another. Maybe it’s because it’s more formal and there is less banter?
The Irish are native speakers of English, unlike the rest of the EU!
@@neom0nk I listen to Dublin ATC very frequently - not a lot wrong with Aer Lingus or indeed other Irish carriers' R/T.
@@kushalraj EU flights will be dealing with a lot of pilots for whom English is not their first language. Banter doesn't translate well from English to German to French to italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Swedish etc
I knew someone would make this. Thanks 👍🏼
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Thank you for watching 👍
@@YouCanSeeATC 😎
Shamrock became heavy upon landing, impressive!
Truly appreciated!! Living in Windsor, CT... just south east of BDL...
Very professional communications all round.
Great outcome. That was massive comm time for OEI be my only critique, love to have heard the cvr
There must have been an additional complication beside the compressor stall. I’ve been on two flights that had compressor stalls - both in the 1970s on 727s, center engine of course. But after the loud bang and shudder, we continued climbing and headed to our destination on both flights. No further problems. Perhaps this particular engine suffered collateral damage from the stall.
Nice to hear a US controller not talking at 200mph and being very clear. The United could learn a lesson or two from him.
Funny, was going to say the same for the Irish pilot... We paddy's talk fast too
Oh boy I'm flying with Aer Lingus in 27 days.
AerLingus is a top notch airline and highly trained pilots. I would not fetter in flying with them and watching this, makes me even feel safer. They are one of the best in aviation.
@@ramonyusijfdebruijn790 That's good to know, thank you for the info!
Thank you very much!🙂
Thank you 👍😎
The initial description panel. How can you have 04:55 PM? Somebody doesn't understand 24hr clock!
I was an airline pilot for only one year when I was a passenger on an SAS flight that had declared an emergency due to no oxygen at 35,000 feet. The flight crew was so panicky that I wish that I had been the flying pilot instead. I spent my time trying to calm the adult passengers around me, who were in tears, because of the quivering voice of the first officer, as he donned his oxygen mask.
What ever happened to United 2042. The tower basically just told him to go away and that was the end of it...
He's still in a holding pattern I am told
@@g4obb 😁
Yeah he continued to fly around aimlessly until he ran out of fuel. Crashed and burned he did but thankfully they were only American on board.. 🙂
The pilot sounded so young and very professional, I would feel very safe in her plane…☘️☘️☘️.
Pilot is female.
@@brendanhogan9881 oops, no offence intended.
@@taraann7753 None taken! I guessed that you didn't recognise the Irish accent. (And yes, she sounded really competent, professional - and calm too.)
Great work
Training Training and more Training, that's the only way to sharpen one's competence.
fast talking isn't working good. Maybe it helps in normal operation, but in stressfull situations, there should be a standard and clear communication, why isn't that standard proces with airline/atc?
Same plane suffered a bird strike on its way to New York yesterday
Big Bang? Did he start a new universe?
SO DID THE UNIVERSE !
Wow wild to think I had flown on that plane earlier in the year. I have a few recordings of the take offs and always sat on the right side. After seeing this video its a shame I didn't get it on film.
Was this a regular commercial flight?
No, they diverted to Windsor Locks. Original flight was from Dublin to Boston.
I LOVE PAN-PAN!! MORE PAN-PANNN!
Should have been pan pan, pan pan, pan pan.
Why is nobody talking about why Aer Lingus of all airlines is flying domestic from Hartford to Boston 🤣
Initially they were going from Dublin to Boston but diverted to Windsor Locks. So they were just going to their destination.
@@YouCanSeeATC Why did they divert?
@@oliverqueen5883 I believe there was bad weather over Boston.
I initially had the same thought and wondered if the weather was the reason. Usually is. Turns out to be true. Go figure!
Bit sloppy and unprofessional from that United pilot on approach
what’s the difference between pan pan and may day??
pan is more of a warning and mayday is more of an emergency, but they get treated the same in the USA
Pan-pan is an urgency call, mayday is an emergency call. BTW re. what the commenter below said about the USA: neither are generally used by US crews - they go with the "declaring an emergency" phraseology.
@@fascinatingtome nothing personal but I just wish that US pilots would stick to the same ICAO phraseology like the rest of the world does.
@@fascinatingtome I've heard USA pilots use both, pan pan extremely infrequently, and the pilots typically sound pretty seasoned.
And not once did the Aer Lingus pilot use the phrase: "Always after me Lucky Charms, they're magically delicious!"😂
Anyone familiar with the Airport/Incident? Why did they say the ILS 33 was no good, is it just the leghth?
internet says 9500' vs 6800' feet, so maybe?
@@jamescollier3 6800' seems to be enough for a normal MLW, maybe they wanted the extra length due to having degraded performance in the event of a go-around.
I don't know, just speculating here lol.
After the incident, tower asked if they wanted to return to 06 and they said yes. After that approach asked for 33 but they were probably already configured the ils frequencies and everything for 06 approach. They had enough happening already in there. Sudden runway change in that situation is not what you want.
Shorter runway, flaps 15 landing possibly? With a compressor stall, I sure wouldn't want to count on the #2 engine for TOGA power, though they still had the engine...
Most likely they just were already setting up for 06 and didn't want to change at the last moment, they just wanted to get down ASAP.
Nobody listens. Terrible ATC guy.
The terror in a European pilot's voice when offered a visual approach 😂
Dave Kavanagh, you are a fool.
They're very rarely given to airliners here haha. Circle to lands are way more common as far as visual maneuvuers are concerned. Otherwise it's all ILS or RNP/RNAVs
@@ScaledNotesMusic When you say 'here' I assume you mean Europe. I know, I'm Irish, and it's almost upsetting to see the trepidation at the idea of looking out the window and flying the plane!
@@davidkavanagh189 Apologies, I find the comments section are usually filled with more americans than europeans on these videos haha.
I wonder if doing the ILS is encouraged at most eu companies during emergency situations, if availible, given a (potentially) lower workload? Going through my flight training right now, but this is a bit of a knowledge gap at the moment.
@@ScaledNotesMusic It's more so that their company SOP's either don't allow or strongly discourage visual approaches.