Why was the "Penny Farthing" Bicycle a Successful Failure?

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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025

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  • @idea2753
    @idea2753  2 года назад +8

    Ah, the good old days. Thank you all for your continued support on this page and keep those suggestions for future videos coming!🥃

  • @jamescgarrett6356
    @jamescgarrett6356 2 года назад +40

    Something I heard a while back (but can’t confirm) is that the phrase, “break-neck speed” came from racing these bicycles. To go faster for a given pedal rpm you needed a bigger front wheel circumference, and therefore the rider ended up being seated higher and higher off the ground. In the end, the front wheels became so huge that falling from on top of them risked a significant chance of breaking one’s neck.
    Thanks for the interesting video and keep well.

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +4

      This is so gnarly I'd believe it 100% James! The origins of phrases sometimes have the weirdest histories (hell, maybe I could do a video series on them?) Have a great end to your weekend sir and thank you for sharing! 🥃

    • @monster762
      @monster762 Год назад +3

      Surely the maximum radius of the front wheel can only be the length of your toes to your crotch, minus room for the seat and the length of the crank.

    • @fxsaddles7985
      @fxsaddles7985 Год назад

      @@monster762You are correct. The longer the rider’s inseam, the larger the front wheel can be. Larger wheels equal more speed but also more difficulty pedaling uphill.

    • @Hope4MeAndYou
      @Hope4MeAndYou Год назад +1

      @@monster762 Some riders would alternate having one foot on a pedal and then the other, because both feet couldn't reach the pedals at the same time. So while pushing a pedal down with one foot, the other foot was in the air, waiting for it's pedal to come up to meet it.

    • @RafaelBenedicto
      @RafaelBenedicto 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@monster762Perhaps you didn't watch the video entirely before posting your comment. In the later part of the video, you can clearly see how they manage to make a huge wheel with a radius larger than the rider's inseam.

  • @larrydonovan1293
    @larrydonovan1293 2 года назад +25

    Great topic! Here in Alameda, California, I will occasionally see a man on a penny-farthing…a local company makes them. It’s really something to behold coming down the street!

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +3

      Brave souls who manage to rock these 😆And thank you for sharing Larry! Imagine seeing these everywhere you went back in the day? Imagine the hospital bills? Have a great end to your weekend sir! 🥃

  • @stevefox8605
    @stevefox8605 2 года назад +10

    As a kid I have as in the Veteran and Vintage Cycle Club, my Dad had an 1886 Penny Farthing ( properly called a "high Ordinary" ) , it had a 52" front wheel. Remember him going over the bars when he was learning to ride it. I rode it a couple of times (with help to get going) - very easy to get going too fast and hard to slow - "spoon" brakes that acted directly on the front tyre.
    Great episode, keep 'em coming!!
    👍🏻👍🏻🥃

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +2

      High Ordinary. It sounds so sick... and 52"... just madness. Thank you so much for sharing this Steve! I can imagine it must be very easy to move once you get past that inertia and get the balancing right. Must say though... I freaked out riding a fully restored MK1 Raleigh Chopper down hill (side project of mine) ... so one of these Ordinaries would probably do way worse 🥃

  • @Thomas_Burnett
    @Thomas_Burnett 2 года назад +4

    A fascinating history of this bicycle. Loved the footage. Thank heavens for John Dunlop and his inventions. A much smoother ride that we are used to today. Loving the content of this new channel Boet. Keep it coming please. ✊

  • @markcopeman3552
    @markcopeman3552 2 года назад +3

    I smiled from start to finish. Just looking at one how could you not? They're elegant, eccentric and scary all at the same time. Hats off to those that did and do ride them! Informative as ever .

  • @anthonysmith2982
    @anthonysmith2982 2 года назад +9

    Such a fun subject. Such cool machines. I had no idea that they were so short lived. Is it just me, or is the first iteration of a new idea ᴀʟᴡᴀʏs a frickin' death trap?
    There's a guy who rides one out near where I live; not a dreaded 'hipster', just a guy - oddly dressed in his anachronistic bright cycling lycra! - riding the country roads 'cause he can.
    I love seeing him, makes my day and not a car goes by that doesn't acknowledge him.

  • @lauriedale6104
    @lauriedale6104 2 года назад +6

    Brilliant topic. The rise and fall of railways or canals could be similar topics to explore that are vaguely related to this.

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +2

      Great suggestion Laurie! Canals would be excellent to cover and trains and railways will definitely be added to the list ;)

  • @dayoki8091
    @dayoki8091 2 года назад +3

    just a thousand subs? underrated man

  • @billy.g3597
    @billy.g3597 2 года назад +5

    Definitely a bizarre looking step in the evolution of the bicycle. The introduction of pneumatic tyres, chain and sprockets was the end of the Penny Farthing.
    I wonder what the next evolutionary step of the bicycle is going to look like.

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +2

      The future of bike tech is looking very interesting! I've been studying the work that's going into gearbox and belt driven bicycles (same as motorbikes) - imagine no derailleurs and chains anymore? 🔥 It's a very exciting field to say the least!

    • @reedgrabowski8314
      @reedgrabowski8314 2 года назад +1

      Motorized, or the Segway.

  • @jameshoward9700
    @jameshoward9700 2 года назад +2

    Excellent stuff! Much like a Rangie, rolling on 24"s, the logic of the day was always for bigger wheels! That crash at ~5.20 was brutal! But the real genius lies in the Safety Bicycle, an extraordinary invention that is so similar to modern iterations 130 years later...

  • @watchsixto
    @watchsixto 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for making this video I always wanted to know what happened with the first bicycle to get us going

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +2

      It's mad... Maybe in future I'll look to the next generations that came after these. Thanks a millions as always brother!

  • @michaelfierman3256
    @michaelfierman3256 2 года назад

    I had no idea of what those things were called or any of that history. What a name. Great episode.

  • @reedgrabowski8314
    @reedgrabowski8314 2 года назад +2

    I am duly impressed with this video. An interesting topic to explore. Had no clue that the rationale for the design was to be at an equal height with the horse-drawn carriage. And, it adds new context regarding a face plant. You keep hitting these topics and research out of the park!

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +1

      Thank you as always Reed! You learn oddities when going through these subjects (partly why I enjoy doing it so much is that my understanding grows while presenting) Ah, it's good fun! I hope you had a stellar weekend sir! 🥃

  • @Srt3D01-db-01
    @Srt3D01-db-01 Месяц назад

    2:30 look at him! He's a pro , and how fast and natural he rides 😮
    Even more special since the the state of the roads back in the day

  • @00-Fresh-Snow-00
    @00-Fresh-Snow-00 2 года назад +4

    I haven't seen these in ages! Outside of classic illustrations or old period films, I've never seen this much video footage of the Penny Farthing till now (heck, I didn't even know it was called that).
    Obviously, by today's standards, this bike is comical to behold; just getting on-and-off it had to be quite a sight 😅. All kidding aside, it's amazing to see the progression of design and ingenuity on something (the modern-day bicycle) the average Joe might otherwise take for granted.
    My final thoughts on the Penny Farthing: Look, Ma...no brakes! 😁
    Cheers 🍺

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад

      Crazy that these used to be the norm... with all the health hazards people were exposed to, simply riding a bike to the shops could've ended up so, so badly 😆 Ah, how you're well Fresh and have a great end to your weekend 🥃

  • @ericb8888
    @ericb8888 2 года назад +3

    Did you do your dissertation on this subject? …….;)

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +1

      You'd think, right? Mine was on "Design Thinking" Quite a boring subject compared to this ;)

    • @ericb8888
      @ericb8888 2 года назад +2

      @@idea2753 It must have been a riot ;)
      Great vid on a very under appreciated invention .

  • @chrisgrieves1468
    @chrisgrieves1468 2 года назад

    A lovely exploration of this device. Enjoying where you are going with this channel. I'm thinking radiogram and the first common form of home entertainment?

  • @capribreezee
    @capribreezee 2 месяца назад +1

    This was the old time version of a those giant trucks with unnecessarily big wheels

  • @georgehave
    @georgehave 2 года назад +2

    Very informative.

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +1

      Thanks a ton George! Really had a good time studying up on these oddities 😉

  • @robertlock6041
    @robertlock6041 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this, riding one of these would terrify me, frankly Mr Guy. They are still for sale in the UK, from Unicycle. Penny farthings must be almost unique in being, in equal measure, ingenious, simple, lethal and utterly bonkers. I don't fancy their chances on hills either! 😀

  • @dee-ker5867
    @dee-ker5867 2 года назад +3

    excellent vid

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад

      Thank you brother! 🥃

  • @worldtraveler930
    @worldtraveler930 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'd love to own one!!! 🤠👍

  • @alvinmick218
    @alvinmick218 2 года назад +2

    I enjoy topics like this! 🥃

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад

      I definitely want to focus on the odd, quirky stuff in future videos Alvin. It's too much fun stepping back in time 😉

  • @flippinzippo9670
    @flippinzippo9670 2 года назад +2

    Guaranteed I’d break my back trying to mount that thing

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +1

      And my old man would break himself just by looking at one 😆 (he managed to break his femur coming off a MTB earlier this year) Hope you've had another superb week brother 🥃

    • @juniorjohnson5961
      @juniorjohnson5961 2 года назад

      👊

  • @olsurferguy1
    @olsurferguy1 2 года назад +1

    Yikes! If I had crossed those trolley tracks on my highwheel, I would have gone ass over tea kettle for sure.

  • @zHumanfactor
    @zHumanfactor 2 года назад +6

    Here is some history for you, British cyclist Thomas Stevens took his Penny Farthing and rode around the world from 1884 to 1886. He wrote a book on his adventure which is astonishing to read. Upon his return to London he became the manager of the Garrick theatre.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Stevens_(cyclist)

    • @PRH123
      @PRH123 6 месяцев назад +1

      Great book. It inspired me to start riding a single speed bicycle. What’s funny is that I downloaded the book from Gutenberg with no images, so I didn’t understand initially what kind of bicycle he was riding. Halfway through the book I just couldn’t understand why he was “taking a header” and falling off his bike at least once a day. Only then did I look him up on Wikipedia and realize he was riding a penny farthing.

  • @jiajianhou426
    @jiajianhou426 2 года назад +1

    First mullet setup lol.

  • @師太滅絕
    @師太滅絕 Год назад

    Is it possible for a low (smaller) front wheel, and a big hind wheel?

    • @Dannysoutherner
      @Dannysoutherner 2 месяца назад

      There were models like that. I believe they were American versions. Less apt to go down head first.

  • @TorBoy9
    @TorBoy9 2 года назад +1

    These penny farthing bicycles are captivating, but are death traps! Hats off to those that wish to ride these for fun!

  • @enriquesb1528
    @enriquesb1528 2 года назад

    You're the watches ID guy! Didn't know this channel existed ver nice

  • @ThD040
    @ThD040 2 года назад +4

    So happy that i never had to use one. Happy to have had my grandfather’s bike to go to school, a long time ago.
    The current bikes make life even easier.

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +1

      Imagine that these things used to be the norm? With all the severe sickness, infections etc. at the time and you still have to risk your life riding a bicycle? Unreal.

    • @ThD040
      @ThD040 2 года назад +1

      @@idea2753 could also solve the CO2 and N issues in the world. We would not have that many people making middle age.

  • @PHS.44
    @PHS.44 Год назад

    Brilliant video 👍🏼

  • @Neeko_Z
    @Neeko_Z 2 года назад

    Great vid!

  • @swampgumpharpy7977
    @swampgumpharpy7977 2 года назад

    Wait... top hats are out now???

  • @MasterChief37
    @MasterChief37 2 года назад

    Are we going to get any new content?

  • @robertblake9892
    @robertblake9892 6 месяцев назад

    It was a First Generation design, like so many First Generation designs it was a Great Idea at the time.

  • @danfuerthgillis4483
    @danfuerthgillis4483 10 месяцев назад

    These bikes had their usage as they came before the chain driven bicycle, but their main disadvantage came due to the bigger wheel for more speed thus putting the rider in a more dangerous position.

    • @eternaloptimist2840
      @eternaloptimist2840 8 месяцев назад

      The video didn't mention that these bikes didn't happen all at once, but started with same sized wheels and grew progressively larger as people became accustomed to riding them. The larger the wheel the higher the gear, and the better at smoothing road irregularity. The eventual limitation on wheel size was rider leg length, I think the evolution of chain drive was as much about choice of gearing as it was about safety, and of course pneumatic tyres meant you didn't need a large wheel to iron out the bumps.

    • @danfuerthgillis4483
      @danfuerthgillis4483 8 месяцев назад

      @@eternaloptimist2840 Well at one time these bikes had their case but with the advent of gearing, chains, brakes the safety bike took off. I think in my opinion women actually had more of the safety bike pushed forward since it provided a safe ride and back then since almost all women wore dresses they needed a bike they could ride even with a dress on. For the youth this was also much safer as parents did not have to worry much.

  • @rickfowler3710
    @rickfowler3710 2 года назад

    Surely Concorde is a must do

  • @jeezlouiz
    @jeezlouiz 27 дней назад

    Jumping in that thing though how?!! I would nvr ride a bike like that 😂

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 2 года назад +1

    Thank you 🙏
    I would be scared to death to ride one .

  • @gbarron64
    @gbarron64 Год назад

    Pretty nicely done though there are a few factual errors. I did appreciate you commenting on the coinage though, and when the name actually was first used.

  • @dogaredeemer2711
    @dogaredeemer2711 Месяц назад

    Eugene meyer?? wasn't james starley the inventor

  • @youtuuba
    @youtuuba 5 месяцев назад

    This video perpetuates a lot of flagrant misinformation about highwheel bike history and characteristics. My guess is that IDEA+ was careless in which sources of information were used.
    Just some corrections to the many errors:
    - The term "pennyfarthing" was a pre-existing English term for for anything made obsolete or devalued over time, and it was based on the low value of penny and farthing coins, NOT their size. The term was only applied to highwheel bikes once they had become obsolete, and thus lost most of their value. The name was NOT applied to these bikes because of the sizes of the wheels and the coins. Adequate historical research has been done to verify this.
    - The bikes that Eugene Meyer invented are not what is considered to be a highwheel bike. He actually made a further development of the Velocipede, a type of bicycle the preceded the highwheel. There is some similarity in the appearance of the two types, but people who know their bike history realize that Meyer can't be considered be the true inventor of the highwheel bike design. And James Starley barely invented it, although his contributions were more significant and pivotal that Meyer's.
    - The reason highwheel bikes were invented was NOT primarily for the elevation. It was to finally allow people to get around under their own power at a much faster rate than walking, pure and simple, no doubt about it. They had the big wheel because, without the hassle of heavy and greasy gears and chains (metallury at the time did not allow for light weight, reliable, gears and chains like the ones we know these days), a decent amount of ground could be covered for every rotation of the pedals, at a reasonable cadence. Unlike what the narration states, it was NOT about having higher RPM, just the opposite!
    - Highwheels were never "extremely fast", what nonsense and what lazy word choice.
    - Few highwheel bikes were made using cast iron anywhere on their structure. They were made from steel. There were some fringe companies that tried to make cheap highwheels using cast iron, or cast steel, but these were not successful.

  • @jackhenry290
    @jackhenry290 2 месяца назад

    They look DANGEROUS AF to me 😂😂😂😂 and a compound fracture back then would require a bone saw, hot plate and biting stick. That’s a hard pass 😂😂😂 I

  • @richlander5874
    @richlander5874 2 года назад

    👍

  • @jimmyjakes1823
    @jimmyjakes1823 4 месяца назад +1

    It's a bike for real men. How can you call yourself a wheel man if you only ride with the puny wheels on modern bikes? How lame are you if you need a 'safety bike'?

  • @Allan-mf1he
    @Allan-mf1he 2 года назад +1

    Lekker man.

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад

      Thanks boet 😉

  • @flhxri
    @flhxri 2 года назад

    I always put Dunlop tires on my Harley, every other tire I have tried sucks!

  • @ernesto003plus
    @ernesto003plus 22 дня назад

    Oh yes, these devices look truly majestic - - - unless someone rides it wearing jeans, a reflective vest and a skater helmet with a dashcam. 😆

  • @ericb8888
    @ericb8888 2 года назад +2

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    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +1

      Quicker than me this time 😉

  • @chrisdavis8650
    @chrisdavis8650 Месяц назад

    ITS PRONOUNCED RIM RIIM NOT ROOM.

  • @bagdarcan
    @bagdarcan 2 месяца назад +1

    Is the name only funny to me?

  • @chrisstevenson2622
    @chrisstevenson2622 2 года назад +3

    I would love to watch Joe Biden ride one without a helmet.

    • @idea2753
      @idea2753  2 года назад +1

      Imagine how much you'd make pay-per-view? 🥃

    • @chrisstevenson2622
      @chrisstevenson2622 2 года назад

      @@idea2753 no kidding. I love watching Australian news roasting “sleepy” Joe.

    • @juniorjohnson5961
      @juniorjohnson5961 2 года назад +3

      I prefer president's who don't get raided by the FBI

    • @chrisstevenson2622
      @chrisstevenson2622 2 года назад

      @@juniorjohnson5961 the raid was politically motivated in an attempt to scare Trump. It didn’t work.

    • @dougvinkle6795
      @dougvinkle6795 Год назад

      Is that what happened to you?

  • @H0LY_SM0KE5
    @H0LY_SM0KE5 3 месяца назад

    bombing a hill = bailing position

  • @XDFRailRoadCooler
    @XDFRailRoadCooler Месяц назад

    They should take the H out of Penny-Farthing. And call it Penny-Farting.

  • @nevco8774
    @nevco8774 Год назад

    So stupid but fascinating to watch...