I work for a tow truck company in Australia and I have seen all sorts of damage caused by all sorts of things to all sorts of vehicles and they are all different. The only true indication of how safe a car is, is the ANCAP testing and rating. Of which the GWM Poer (Cannon in Aus.) has a 5 star rating. The important thing to remember here is surviving an accident, if you can get out of a car with the least amount of damage to yourself you probably won't care too much what the car looks like. Here is the link for the GWM Cannon ANCAP testing. ruclips.net/video/_TWkw52-Blk/видео.html As far as I can see in this impact the car did exactly what it was ment to do, protect the occupants. You can get out and go and buy a new car, thats what we all pay overinflated insurance premiums for. But I am certainly glad we don't pay what you guys pay for your imported cars. The GWM in this video looks like the base model (Cannon) which in Aus, for ABN Holders (tax dodge), is about 33k AUD or 21.5K USD and the top of the range Cannon XSR with all the bells and whistles is 49K AUD or 32K USD
It is an extensive damage due to safety design. It did what it meant to do - absorb the impact and spread it around and not tru the occupants. (Watch those F1 cars crashings.) The tyre, most probably, hit sideways at 80khp plus the gwm at 70kph. The angle of impact is also a great consideration. If the design is a decade or 2 ago the result could be different. The body may have been affected that much but definitely the occupants may suffer significantly.
An errant truck wheel is an incredibly dangerous missile. His suggestion that a Toyota would suffer less damage is pure wishful thinking. Fortunately in Australia that is a total write off, regardless of make . The integrity of that GWM is totally compromised and anyone who drives the repaired ute is risking their life. Sure we live in a new era of throw away-ism. But the safety of modern vehicles is an advancement, even pointless (to most owners) tradie trucks are light years better than anything for previous decades.
We don't just live in an era of one-time-use "almost anything" but it's also about the location. E.g. in Australia, no one would even understand the point of this video, scratching their heads and wondering what's the fuss all about and why the craftsmen in Russia even make a topic out of this. Because yeah, pay a steep premium, something happens to your car - ah well - here's another. There it's different. Perspective is sobering sometimes.
a great a proportion of imported car prices in russia goes to import and.or excise tax, regarding the collision, some info on the speed the canon and the wheel were travelling will be very helpful, also theres no info on how it collided with the railing, apparently elia much prefers japanese cars to the chinese and thats how the ole world works
We don't have info on collision speed etc, as I've mentioned... But regardless. One wheel shouldn't do this much damage. It wouldn't have travelled at the speed of light (or even sound lol) to cut through the car like a knife through a tin can.
How do you know? 🤷♀️ And if "I'm biased" - it should be IN SUPPORT of GWM, not the other way around. Just looking at the facts and listening to what a very experienced mechanic is saying. Going off his bias, not my own thoughts.
So these things you are pointing out such as suspension position are common on most these type of vehicles and this damage should in fact happen it is designed to crumple to absorb the energy of an accident before it transfers to the driver, this is a design feature in almost all modern vehicles, this car has done its job perfectly and is an indication the gwm are designing great vehicles, let's not forget the gwm was co designed by some of Europe's top automotive engineers.
Be this as it may, I'm just translating (rather closely to original) what a very experienced car mechanic was saying. If he is surprised that a wheel did SO much damage - it means there is a good reason to be surprised.
In South Africa US$61000 is equivalent to R1 million, crazy. Wonder why so expensive in Russia whilst they seem to be enjoying a cosy economic relationship with China and BRICS+
@ValueCarsAU 😆 🤣 😂 😹. How did Mike Tyson say? It's all fun and games till ya get punched in the face. I don't think many owners saw this video. When buying a vehicle it's wise to do good research. Crash tests are a wealth of information. If ignored that could mean death for a family member. Or the driver
@GrassrootsViews no. I okay he did make it. But the damage to the vehicle says more about the quality of the vehicle if it gets into an accident. Frankly I was considering buying one but the nearest dealer is like over a 12 hour drive away.
That video makes no sense, how fast was the car travelling? How fast was the wheel travelling towards the car?? As Engineer who is fluent in Physics and maths this report is lacking credibility, you can literally tear to piece any car with a 100kg wheel depending on the momentum.
Who knows, he we look at facts on the screen, I've seen enough of videos where many people challenge validity of ANCAP tests and rating. Go check John Cadogan's channel if mine isn't big enough for you.
ruclips.net/video/_TWkw52-Blk/видео.html Have a look, it passed all the tests, with a better rating than the Ford Ranger, which you can see if you click on the link under the video and then slide right to the bottom to look at the other ute ratings.
@@ValueCarsAU yeah it is called the p series here because the word poes means something very different to a utility vehicle 😂 unfortunately due to the Chinese hate it would very quickly become known as the poes mobile which wouldn't have ended well for GWM🤣
Again a Russian truck loses it wheel. The Russian has a sense of humour about the Chinese selling their cars courses so they don't have to drive them themselves.
If you watch any videos of vehicle crashes in Russia and some of the Asian countries, you will see the number of incidents where a wheel has come off from either a truck and or car. Not suggesting that this happens here if that is what you thought I meant.@@ValueCarsAU
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Thanks as always for the translation! I still see a Chinese car in my future, but it's great to have more info.
Same here mate. I also see how in a couple of years Chinese will sort their dodgy electronics and I'll buy me a Tank 400 or something like that.
I work for a tow truck company in Australia and I have seen all sorts of damage caused by all sorts of things to all sorts of vehicles and they are all different. The only true indication of how safe a car is, is the ANCAP testing and rating. Of which the GWM Poer (Cannon in Aus.) has a 5 star rating. The important thing to remember here is surviving an accident, if you can get out of a car with the least amount of damage to yourself you probably won't care too much what the car looks like. Here is the link for the GWM Cannon ANCAP testing.
ruclips.net/video/_TWkw52-Blk/видео.html
As far as I can see in this impact the car did exactly what it was ment to do, protect the occupants. You can get out and go and buy a new car, thats what we all pay overinflated insurance premiums for.
But I am certainly glad we don't pay what you guys pay for your imported cars. The GWM in this video looks like the base model (Cannon) which in Aus, for ABN Holders (tax dodge), is about 33k AUD or 21.5K USD and the top of the range Cannon XSR with all the bells and whistles is 49K AUD or 32K USD
Fair points mate, and yeah - everything, including import tax, is completely out of this world ridiculous in Australia.
It is an extensive damage due to safety design. It did what it meant to do - absorb the impact and spread it around and not tru the occupants. (Watch those F1 cars crashings.)
The tyre, most probably, hit sideways at 80khp plus the gwm at 70kph. The angle of impact is also a great consideration.
If the design is a decade or 2 ago the result could be different. The body may have been affected that much but definitely the occupants may suffer significantly.
Realistic scenario interpretation.
An errant truck wheel is an incredibly dangerous missile. His suggestion that a Toyota would suffer less damage is pure wishful thinking.
Fortunately in Australia that is a total write off, regardless of make . The integrity of that GWM is totally compromised and anyone who drives the repaired ute is risking their life.
Sure we live in a new era of throw away-ism. But the safety of modern vehicles is an advancement, even pointless (to most owners) tradie trucks are light years better than anything for previous decades.
We don't just live in an era of one-time-use "almost anything" but it's also about the location. E.g. in Australia, no one would even understand the point of this video, scratching their heads and wondering what's the fuss all about and why the craftsmen in Russia even make a topic out of this. Because yeah, pay a steep premium, something happens to your car - ah well - here's another. There it's different. Perspective is sobering sometimes.
@@ValueCarsAU More about insurance. Maybe comprehensive insurance is less of a thing in Russia, I have no idea.
Even here in South africa this would be a write-off
a great a proportion of imported car prices in russia goes to import and.or excise tax, regarding the collision, some info on the speed the canon and the wheel were travelling will be very helpful, also theres no info on how it collided with the railing, apparently elia much prefers japanese cars to the chinese and thats how the ole world works
We don't have info on collision speed etc, as I've mentioned... But regardless. One wheel shouldn't do this much damage. It wouldn't have travelled at the speed of light (or even sound lol) to cut through the car like a knife through a tin can.
I think yall were just biased. Any car moving at speed that meets a 100kg wheel would surely suffer the same fate
How do you know? 🤷♀️ And if "I'm biased" - it should be IN SUPPORT of GWM, not the other way around. Just looking at the facts and listening to what a very experienced mechanic is saying. Going off his bias, not my own thoughts.
So these things you are pointing out such as suspension position are common on most these type of vehicles and this damage should in fact happen it is designed to crumple to absorb the energy of an accident before it transfers to the driver, this is a design feature in almost all modern vehicles, this car has done its job perfectly and is an indication the gwm are designing great vehicles, let's not forget the gwm was co designed by some of Europe's top automotive engineers.
Be this as it may, I'm just translating (rather closely to original) what a very experienced car mechanic was saying. If he is surprised that a wheel did SO much damage - it means there is a good reason to be surprised.
61k USD is roughly 91k AUD !!!
That's mental 😮
It absolutely is mate
In South Africa US$61000 is equivalent to R1 million, crazy. Wonder why so expensive in Russia whilst they seem to be enjoying a cosy economic relationship with China and BRICS+
Thats a big free of charge reality check
Indeed it is, as much as people try and defend the build quality and how solid it is
@ValueCarsAU 😆 🤣 😂 😹. How did Mike Tyson say? It's all fun and games till ya get punched in the face. I don't think many owners saw this video. When buying a vehicle it's wise to do good research. Crash tests are a wealth of information. If ignored that could mean death for a family member. Or the driver
@@milesdavis8665are you insinuating that the driver of this vehicle didn't make it?
@GrassrootsViews no. I okay he did make it. But the damage to the vehicle says more about the quality of the vehicle if it gets into an accident. Frankly I was considering buying one but the nearest dealer is like over a 12 hour drive away.
Thanks for the free reality check 😂 liked and comment to show I'm a good guy
Lol you're a rarity around here mate. good on you
That video makes no sense, how fast was the car travelling? How fast was the wheel travelling towards the car?? As Engineer who is fluent in Physics and maths this report is lacking credibility, you can literally tear to piece any car with a 100kg wheel depending on the momentum.
So how did it get 5 star ANCAP rating then 😁
Who knows, he we look at facts on the screen, I've seen enough of videos where many people challenge validity of ANCAP tests and rating. Go check John Cadogan's channel if mine isn't big enough for you.
ruclips.net/video/_TWkw52-Blk/видео.html Have a look, it passed all the tests, with a better rating than the Ford Ranger, which you can see if you click on the link under the video and then slide right to the bottom to look at the other ute ratings.
GWM could not call it the poer in south africa for some funny reasons
I heard it means something dodgy 😉🤷♀️
@@ValueCarsAU yeah it is called the p series here because the word poes means something very different to a utility vehicle 😂 unfortunately due to the Chinese hate it would very quickly become known as the poes mobile which wouldn't have ended well for GWM🤣
Again a Russian truck loses it wheel. The Russian has a sense of humour about the Chinese selling their cars courses so they don't have to drive them themselves.
Do you hear about many trucks losing wheels? Trying to get your point here...
If you watch any videos of vehicle crashes in Russia and some of the Asian countries, you will see the number of incidents where a wheel has come off from either a truck and or car. Not suggesting that this happens here if that is what you thought I meant.@@ValueCarsAU