If you have this bracket, you need to know this
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- The AD-E2 bracket is the one that comes with the Godox AD100 and AD200 pro. It's an awesome versatile heavy duty bracket that can be used in video and photography lighting, even to hold a camera- anything with a quarter twenty 1/4 20 thread. It is especially useful when a photography umbrella is needed, like a white shoot-through umbrella or silver umbrella reflector. An important not to make though is there are TWO VERSIONS of this bracket- one that has a tightening thread screw, and one that does not, where a gust of wind could pull the umbrella shaft right out of the bracket. if you are a photographer or videographer that does lots of outdoor photography or video work or vlogging or portrait photography with off camera flash, or wedding photography, then watch this video. It could save your photo shoot.
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Crazy you made this video when this was exactly the thing I was looking to add an umbrella to my speed lights on stands. I’m glad I got these, and that they are Markus approved😊
Even a small piece of tape wrapped around the umbrella shaft would keep it from pulling out. The tape will jam it.
Yeah I did that once but the umbrella shaft ended up being all nasty sticky
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Rubber band
Yes the new version has the screw. Very convenient. With the old ones you can put a small a-clamp on the rod. Not as convenient but it works if you’re outside.
Can you please make a video of how you make the little animations of that character with the big nose?
my s2 brackets have that little spring clip, and they broke real quick.
now i use a couple paper clamps on the shaft, or clothes pins.
good tips!!
So good! Just ordered two! It's such a smaller profile than all the rest. Great for travel! Cheers as always!
use the one without the thumb screw that holds the shaft of the umbrella and tie a string from the umbrella to a rock nearby... that way if the wind blows you wont need to run for the umbrella and you avoid wind blowing your whole tripod down...
great info, as always Marcus
Why is the thread mount called a 1/4 20? -- am I alone here ?
1/4 inch diameter and 20 threads per inch
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Correct, AD100 comes with the screw.
Markus with the heads-up! 😊
I bought 2 Godox AD100s about 1 month ago and the brackets both came with the thumbscrew upgrade. I bought them through Amazon on Prime Day. Also bought the silicone round globe diffusers. Thanks for the insight on these AD100s. They are packed with punch for their size.
Which ball head do u use? I have a few different ones and some are very frail, they break easy
Depends what I'm putting in it.
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Thanks again Markus on the great info. If I can make a request; can you provide some info on miniature sets. (lighting, lenses, perspective) Thanks you!
Yes! Handy dandy! Ad-e2
My Ad200Pro did come with a bracket but did not come with the umbrella screw hole.
Could probably tap a hole to add the retention screw,
Good luck.
Ziptie or maybe pick up a small bag of silicone or rubber grommets from Home Depot or Harbor Freight. 🙌
Yes. I can confirm. I bought an AD100 2024 manufacturing edition (well, I know it because it's the colored one, the seller says it, and the code says it). The holder doesn't have umbrella tightening screw
the other cool thing about these brackets is they have the 2 parallel raised plastic bits that keep whatever you screw in from rotating, at least Godox stuff. I have the Godox handle that has the same indents and it's great because when you use one (or two!) aD200s sometimes the screw can get loose and the whole thing starts rotating. if you align the two small holes near the screw it all sits tight. perfect
I couldn't tell from your video, but do the new ones also still have the friction spring in addition to the screw hole? I think that would be the best solution, have both and give up nothing. Shame if it is just a hole like all the rest.
Maybe the ones that come in the kit are the cheap version without the locking screw? The ones bought separately have the screw.
The new version of Godox AD 100 pro bracket (but only with pink filter) comes with aditional thumbscrew. Just a heads up on that one.
The only reason I don't like this bracket (especially with flashes like the AD300 w/ softbox) is because the tightening screw does not have a long enough handle. The one on the flash bracket or bigger flashes is great! Once you tighten this one, it's very difficult to unscrew it. Also Markus here hahaha
I upgraded to an AD200pro recently and mine came with the version with the umbrella thumb screw. I agree that it is a useful feature!
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Love those brackets. I picked some up for my ad200's and they save a lot of space in my lighting bag. the only thing I did was took a rotary tool and ground down the 2 posts to keep the light in place. the ad200 pro's have a cutout for the 2 pins, but the regular ad200's don't. with the modification, the lights sit perfectly on the bracket.
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put a cork on the end of the rod.... for the ones without the clamp nut
Same problem with, for example, the Godox QT series, which also lacks a locking screw - so far, they are not offering an alternative solution. It's so loose that a large umbrella almost slides out on its own - really thoughtless construction.
Oh my. I have 4-5 of these. The biggest issue is the bottom knob interfere with the first knob. They are too close to each other that I am not be able to tight first knob because it will hit second knob. I have to change the knob from my spare lightstand's knob. Eventually it works. But I love and hate this product.
Yes that is annoying. The way around it is to tighten the bottom one first to make room for the top one.
I see this mentioned quite a bit... all you need to do is fully unscrew the lower mounting screw and swap it to the threaded hole on the opposite side of the bracket - then it doesn't conflict with the upper knob.
metal paper clip/binder will solve the issue
The problem with that Godox bracket (version 2) is that some of them are wound in a way where the knobs hit each other and make it impossible to tighten. So this is not a good design. I have replaced the knobs from smaller ones on all of my brackets like this. I've also removed the umbrella knob as it gets in the way of tightening the bracket.
Yes that is annoying. The way around it is to tighten the bottom one first to make room for the top one.
Umbrella know is on the other side though, there is no chance of collision...
I see this mentioned quite a bit... all you need to do is fully unscrew the lower mounting screw and swap it to the threaded hole on the opposite side of the bracket - then it doesn't conflict with the longer knob.
I cannot imagine how much weight you have to put on the bottom to stop a heavy wind from blowing the thing over. I would think that it might even bend the main support rod. But maybe that spring was so weak that a slight breeze was all you were talking about, rather than a heavy wind.
Thank's for the heads up! I have the original ones that came bunddled with the AD300 and AD200 Pro. I was not even aware that there is a version 2. So, thank's!! 🙂
The other thing you need to know is that the two thumbscrews collide when you use them. You can actually unscrew the lower one and swap it to the other side! No more collisions 😀
I have a couple with thumb screws
Great info. For those with the older ones, perhaps adding a quick clamp on the pole or even wrapping some easy to removed gaffing tape on both sides will keep it from going either direction.
I did that once and the umbrella shaft ended up nasty sticky 😅
To prevent the umbrella flying off the end, I just tie an elastic band to the end of the umbrella handle.
Good idea
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These were common with a lot of the Godox strobes. I would use them on my AD200, but when I had my AD400 and larger lights, I would avoid them (partially because they would wear out over time -- like a year or two -- of reasonable use) and just mounted the light into a speed ring bracket instead (much more stable for the most part, and for most speedring brackets). The other thing is that these put stress on the strobe's frame/chassis depending on the design, but it's usually not in a spot that would create a balanced setup (particularly if you have a large soft box).
How did you fit AD400 into a bracket? And why not use AD-E, it uses gears instead of friction and generally should serve for lifetime.
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Because it looks cool
Those brackets won't work well with anything different then AD 100/200/300, as their top is not flat, but has two small "plugs" that match the AD's base holes, and help them lock and avoid rotation.
So anything else you put up there will lay not on the whole bracket top surface, but just on two hard plastic tiny strips, will sit badly and with heavy possibility of unscrewing. You should explain this, so people won't be tricked in buy those things without knowing how bad they are (outside the use with AD's, for which I agree they're absolutely fantastic).
Those could be shaved off, but I've held over 40 different things with these and they screw on and hold really good despite those little nibs
Shouldnt you be greatful the umbrella came off instead of the entire flash with umbrella? The only reason i use umbrellas outside is because of the fly off feature... Its a feature, not a bug :)
No I secure my stands so well they cannot fall over. ruclips.net/video/hz89VIMQZDY/видео.html
Maybe someone has already written about it but wouldn’t it be better if the umbrella flies off rather than tipping over the light stand and breaking the lights, in a windy gust.
Always secure the base of the stand with rocks or something heavy
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I just went and searched for this bracket in my box of stuff and its the version with the screw, good to know.
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Thanks -- just ordered 2 of these - seller message it was the one with locking screw. Thanks
The Godox AD-E2 at B&H doesn’t show the screw for the umbrella hole. Their product images show the old bracket style.
They sometimes don't update their photos, even though newer versions of products change out. B&H is great though with exhnages and returns
@@MarkusPix Thanks 👍
I bought an ad400pro used and it has only the spring and the newer one I have has the tighten screw so I agree they added it at one point to their lights.
Thanks for the heads up!
I thought u don't like it coz u've said it's heavy.
You’re probably thinking about the s mount brackets. He hates those lol
It is kinda heavy yes, but if you need to use an umbrella, then you need the strength of this bracket. If I'm not using an umbrella, a normal small ballhead is fine.
Thanks for sharing.
The differences go even deeper.
The original reason I know is that AD-E2 is friction-based and originally it had too weak friction to hold heavier umbrellas or just softboxes, it was simply dropping down under weight. Even several youtubers have complained about this. It was fixed by silently introducing AD-E2II, instead of a bit more reasonable AD-E3; apart from a bit different design of friction components, knob has been lenghtened to allow for heavier tightening. It's possible that umbrellas were falling out themselves, so thankfully the abovementioned screw has been added in as well. A great example of running first round of tests directly on customers...
The first generation in the form of AD-E should have a honorable mention - it had an almost excellent idea of using a quite standard bolt, that you screwed permanently to the item (light or camera) and then put the bolt into the slot, quickly tightened and everything was good to go. Close to the fastest mount possible. Why "almost"? The missing parts were adding any friction to this bolt (it just freely rotates inside the slot, as it is round and polished) and to the screw on the bolt - I had lights unscrewing themselves under wind or while moving between locations, which is quite dangerous. Other than that, is more heavy-duty and should hold bigger weights than its successor, just be careful of rotation.
I hate the longer knob, it gets stopped by the lower knob, so I have to tighten the lower knob first to make room. Nothing's perfect.
A brief summary of my opinion and suggestions:
AD-E2 mark I: avoid.
AD-E: studio use, heavy umbrellas or softboxes, be mindful of rotational forces when balancing.
AD-E2 mark II: outdoor use, lightweight lights/modifiers and cautiously some heavier ones.
@@MarkusPix I did the same as another commenter, that is, I have switched these knobs between mark I and mark II. At least this makes "I"s useful as knob donors...
Another option is cannibalising lightstand knobs from extra AD-E2IIs, they should work as well.
@@MarkusPix I see this mentioned quite a bit... all you need to do is fully unscrew the lower mounting screw and swap it to the threaded hole on the opposite side of the bracket - then it doesn't conflict with the longer knob.
Good to know 🥂
Thank you Markus
Great tip!
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I’ve lost more than one umbrella tension screw from vibration during transport and location use. My fix has been adding a spring to the threaded shaft that keeps tension on it and prevents it from getting too loose and dropping out. Ordering a case of assorted springs from Amazon proved to be a good investment.
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