I have a 16' Wilderness System's Tarpon sit on top and that thing keeps up and maneuvers very well in tight spots. Thanks for sharing. I fish off of mine.
Here in Ohio, lately the way to get a used kayak under $1k is to find a used one that was only $500 new! That is only a slight exaggeration. Several people I know have travel 6-8 hours to buy a used kayak at a decent price. The covid has turned quite a few people into entrepreneurs. They will buy out what the big box stores have, to create an artificial shortage, and double or triple the price.
I’m in MI; and can’t afford another one atm but love browsing the FB market. I have come to the conclusion when I need a sea kayak, I need to plan a trip to Wisconsin; there’s some nice yaks for really reasonable prices.
Thanks for your videos. One of your videos got me to finally just get out and grab a kayak and start in! Its a terrible aruba 8ft, but it gets me out there and now I am taking time to do a lot of research for the best Kayak for my family and I! Thank you
My first was emotion spitfire 8. I really enjoyed it. It got me hooked. I'm keeping it for hot days on wind protected creeks and rivers and also planning using for my kids and friends. Enjoy the Aruba and take your time with the research. I'm glad I took my time.
I managed to pick up 3 seaward tyees (2 fibreglass and 1 kevlar) with kokatat pfds, nice paddles, skirts, and pumps all for $500 cad each. The person was just not using them anymore. I had redo the rigging but otherwise in fantastic condition. Amazing deal!
I watch both you guys. Lots of great info. I'm always learning something new from you two.. I'm compelled to say, this eve I went out with my newly outfitted Liquid logic Remix xp9 and literally had the absolute best paddle of my life as far as comfort goes. Here's the magic combo. I recently got the full foot bulkhead kit to replace the foot pegs I didn't even know were available till the other day for my xp9. My feet would be sore when I paddled a long day with those foot pegs in it ... Ouch. Anyway, now in my xp9 with the new full foot bulkhead and the new high seat back that works great w sprayskirt by the way, in addition to the new Jackson happy seat that locks my legs into place w/o any effort. It's nearly like I'm paddling in my easy chair...At 63 I'm so loving how it helps my older broken back. Never will be w/o them again on the water. The full foot bulkhead, the high seat back & the Jackson happy seat. Smiles
I found a Rio on Craigslist with minimal usage for only $850. I really wanted it but already waiting on 2 new kayaks to arrive. My wife would not have not been happy lol.
From what I've seen WW boats are like 4x4s, when used by a true enthusiast they either get retired earlier than other boats or require some significant repairs. (Novice here trying to relate something I know very little about to something I know a lot more about)
Hi, Beautiful kayak. I wanted to tell you we bought an Aquaglide Chelan 140 HB after watching your review. We are in our 50’s, first time kayakers. We’ve taken it out twice and we love it. Thanks!
Good luck finding any kayak this year. I've ordered 2000$ worth from Walmart, everything's been cancelled. Itll say they have 6, but have nothing. None of the local outdoors shops in va and wv have had any. Rural king has had one 10' pelican set in. Fazer 100. But that's legitimately it.
Those composite Daggers are sweet! I was at a pond in western Massachusetts about a year ago and a guy drove up with a Dagger Meridian on his car. What a beauty! I was a bit disappointed to later find that they don't make 'em like that anymore.
Most of the old composite Kayak companies have sense either stop making them or went out of business entirely. Necky Kayaks gone dagger composites gone wilderness composites pretty much gone. Even the British companies are hard to find in the US nowadays. Thankful Sterling still makes great composite kayaks in the USA, but they are pricey!
I got my first sit in, an old style (02' I think) Dagger Blackwater 12.5 last week. I hope this used kayak project leads to some good tutorials on restoration/repair and improving outfitting.
This year I've bought paddled and resold an Old Town Castine, a Perception Carolina and an Old Town Adventure i still own. I still wish I bought a Vibe Sea Ghost 130 when i first started out though
I found a 2013 or 2014 Hobie Revo mirage 13 for $750 I want to buy as a first kayak. Only thing I'm worried about is the older seat that looks pretty uncomfortable. Don;t know why I'm hung up on wanting a beach chair style seat. Should it even matter?
Hey there Dan! Reaching out in sort of desperation, as kayak dealers in WI are almost nil and the only place to really demo them within 2 hours of me is a place that has been really rough to deal with. First time kayak potential purchase, going to be using it to fish in lakes, but also want something I can take to places like Boundary Waters in Minnesota, which is primarily a canoe area due to the portages and we'll be fishing and camping there. What are your thoughts on something like this - nativewatercraft.com/product/ultimate-12/ Do you like hybrids at all? Would the reviews out at paddling.com (paddling.com/gear/native-watercraft-ultimate-12-kayak/) be worthwhile or do you find them to be inaccurate? Thanks bud. Much respect and appreciation from the frozen north, Wisconsin.
Hey been a fan for a few months new to kayaking just got back from a kayaking trip and notice the bottom of my hall has some scratches is this normal or should I be worried?
You should be worried if your car didn’t have scratches on the bottom. That means it was hanging in the garage. Scratches are just signs of a good time.
Its not a unique rudder system. Mirage kayaks have been using that system for decades. I am sure they didn't invent it either. Also, your paddle holders look more like fishing rod holders to me.
Everyone steals good ideas in the kayak world. I’ve never seen a Mirage Kayak in the US but cool to know they use this rudder style. Excited to see how it works.
@@HeadwatersKayak I expect it is not efficient due to induced drag losses from 1, being very low aspect ratio. 2. Being so close to the surface, there are pressure losses to the surface. Stern hung rudders always have this problem at the top end and while it isn't stern hung, it is almost the same issue near the surface. It does however avoid getting hung up on rocks etc and not a bad solution to landing through surf. Rudders & skegs mounted well under the keel and forward of the stern are the most efficient but this is problematic for kayaks, except for retractable skegs. A rudder on a kayak is basically a trimming skeg rather than a steering device as you still have to edge the hull to turn. Kayak rudders tend to be pretty ineffectual without edging or edging the wrong way. All the rudder does is compensate for side slip in adverse conditions so it is really acting as a skeg, improving direction stability. Basically, the longer and deeper a rudder is, the more efficient it is and the more effective small deflections are for it's area. If it is efficient enough and large enough, it could become a turning device but that would be unusual in kayaks.
Dude, thanks for the kind words and so pumped about this project. Can’t wait for you to test the Sitka on the water. 👌👍🔥
Me too. Hopefully this weekend.
I got a Wilderness Systems The Ride 135 for free from my sister. It had spot that needed plastic welding on the keel,but she's good to go now.
Should have done this next year when covid passes and everyone is done with their new Kayak
That is a nice way to put, pick one up cheap from a deceased estate sale.......
@@kenwebster5053 I think what he meant was people that impulse bought and decided it wasn't the hobby/sport for them
I have a 16' Wilderness System's Tarpon sit on top and that thing keeps up and maneuvers very well in tight spots. Thanks for sharing. I fish off of mine.
Here in Ohio, lately the way to get a used kayak under $1k is to find a used one that was only $500 new! That is only a slight exaggeration.
Several people I know have travel 6-8 hours to buy a used kayak at a decent price.
The covid has turned quite a few people into entrepreneurs. They will buy out what the big box stores have, to create an artificial shortage, and double or triple the price.
I’m in MI; and can’t afford another one atm but love browsing the FB market. I have come to the conclusion when I need a sea kayak, I need to plan a trip to Wisconsin; there’s some nice yaks for really reasonable prices.
Basically the same in Pennsylvania
Thanks for your videos. One of your videos got me to finally just get out and grab a kayak and start in! Its a terrible aruba 8ft, but it gets me out there and now I am taking time to do a lot of research for the best Kayak for my family and I! Thank you
My first was emotion spitfire 8. I really enjoyed it. It got me hooked. I'm keeping it for hot days on wind protected creeks and rivers and also planning using for my kids and friends. Enjoy the Aruba and take your time with the research. I'm glad I took my time.
I managed to pick up 3 seaward tyees (2 fibreglass and 1 kevlar) with kokatat pfds, nice paddles, skirts, and pumps all for $500 cad each. The person was just not using them anymore. I had redo the rigging but otherwise in fantastic condition. Amazing deal!
Can't wait for on the water test! Sitka second life. Btw, that unknown thing fixed on kayaks top is probably for depth sounder.
Cool!
I watch both you guys. Lots of great info. I'm always learning something new from you two..
I'm compelled to say, this eve I went out with my newly outfitted
Liquid logic Remix xp9 and literally had the absolute best paddle of my life as far as comfort goes.
Here's the magic combo.
I recently got the full foot bulkhead kit to replace the foot pegs I didn't even know were available till the other day for my xp9. My feet would be sore when I paddled a long day with those foot pegs in it ... Ouch.
Anyway, now in my xp9 with the new full foot bulkhead and the new high seat back that works great w sprayskirt by the way, in addition to the new Jackson happy seat that locks my legs into place w/o any effort.
It's nearly like I'm paddling
in my easy chair...At 63 I'm so loving how it helps my older broken back.
Never will be w/o them again on the water.
The full foot bulkhead, the high seat back
& the Jackson happy seat.
Smiles
Wilderness Systems Tsunami 1450, about 10 years old but barely used. Got it for $500....... but I got a family discount buying from my brother.
Dang i never did hear how much you gave for it. Sweet ride tho. Now that will handle some gear plus extras. Nice find!
The plastic mount on the port side just in front of the cockpit is a GPS mount...looks like a Garmin.
I just picked up a Delta 12.10 like new for $800. LOVE IT
I found a Rio on Craigslist with minimal usage for only $850. I really wanted it but already waiting on 2 new kayaks to arrive. My wife would not have not been happy lol.
I found a liquid logic stomper 90 for $600, in North west MT the prices are not to bad on used boats,
Whitewater kayaks have a shorter shelf life than the touring/recreation kayaks.
Especially creek boats.
@@johntempest267 I'm kind of new to Kayaking...why do creek boats / WW boats have a shorter shelf life ? Thank you
@@mountaingorilla406
If you search UT "Green River narrows" you can see for yourself. This river in particular is known for retiring kayaks early.
@@johntempest267 thank you, I will, I thought you ment something in the material gets weak over time.
From what I've seen WW boats are like 4x4s, when used by a true enthusiast they either get retired earlier than other boats or require some significant repairs.
(Novice here trying to relate something I know very little about to something I know a lot more about)
Hi, Beautiful kayak. I wanted to tell you we bought an Aquaglide Chelan 140 HB after watching your review. We are in our 50’s, first time kayakers. We’ve taken it out twice and we love it. Thanks!
That’s great to hear!
Don’t give up on the Tamarack back there!
I saw that too.
Good luck finding any kayak this year. I've ordered 2000$ worth from Walmart, everything's been cancelled. Itll say they have 6, but have nothing. None of the local outdoors shops in va and wv have had any. Rural king has had one 10' pelican set in. Fazer 100. But that's legitimately it.
Man that sucks. The walmart not to far from where I live in Michigan has at least had a few of the Lifetime Yukons for sale every time I go in.
Those composite Daggers are sweet! I was at a pond in western Massachusetts about a year ago and a guy drove up with a Dagger Meridian on his car. What a beauty! I was a bit disappointed to later find that they don't make 'em like that anymore.
Most of the old composite Kayak companies have sense either stop making them or went out of business entirely. Necky Kayaks gone dagger composites gone wilderness composites pretty much gone. Even the British companies are hard to find in the US nowadays. Thankful Sterling still makes great composite kayaks in the USA, but they are pricey!
How come no one ever talks about BKC, Brooklyn Kayak Co. ?
Other than unboxings , there's almost no reviews on them.
This is super cool thanks for sharing.
Prijon Yukon Expedition
I got my first sit in, an old style (02' I think) Dagger Blackwater 12.5 last week. I hope this used kayak project leads to some good tutorials on restoration/repair and improving outfitting.
I hope that heart means you plan on helping us (me) learn how to get the most out of this old boat ;-)
This year I've bought paddled and resold an Old Town Castine, a Perception Carolina and an Old Town Adventure i still own. I still wish I bought a Vibe Sea Ghost 130 when i first started out though
Any updates to how the kayak performed on the water?
No kayaks in Pennsylvania bummer
I found a 2013 or 2014 Hobie Revo mirage 13 for $750 I want to buy as a first kayak. Only thing I'm worried about is the older seat that looks pretty uncomfortable. Don;t know why I'm hung up on wanting a beach chair style seat. Should it even matter?
Hey there Dan! Reaching out in sort of desperation, as kayak dealers in WI are almost nil and the only place to really demo them within 2 hours of me is a place that has been really rough to deal with.
First time kayak potential purchase, going to be using it to fish in lakes, but also want something I can take to places like Boundary Waters in Minnesota, which is primarily a canoe area due to the portages and we'll be fishing and camping there.
What are your thoughts on something like this - nativewatercraft.com/product/ultimate-12/
Do you like hybrids at all? Would the reviews out at paddling.com (paddling.com/gear/native-watercraft-ultimate-12-kayak/) be worthwhile or do you find them to be inaccurate?
Thanks bud. Much respect and appreciation from the frozen north, Wisconsin.
Dan, you didn't give us a link to the kayak hipster
I linked his channel at the end of this video. Also updated the description. But check his video out here: ruclips.net/video/wugPDDgchNQ/видео.html
@@HeadwatersKayak thanks
Hey been a fan for a few months new to kayaking just got back from a kayaking trip and notice the bottom of my hall has some scratches is this normal or should I be worried?
You should be worried if your car didn’t have scratches on the bottom. That means it was hanging in the garage. Scratches are just signs of a good time.
That's a funky cool rudder!
How much does that Sitka weigh?
Haven't weighed it, but she ain't light! I'd say 55lbs if I was guessing. Shes got some extra glass from an old repair in the rear hatch.
Its not a unique rudder system. Mirage kayaks have been using that system for decades. I am sure they didn't invent it either. Also, your paddle holders look more like fishing rod holders to me.
Everyone steals good ideas in the kayak world. I’ve never seen a Mirage Kayak in the US but cool to know they use this rudder style. Excited to see how it works.
@@HeadwatersKayak I expect it is not efficient due to induced drag losses from 1, being very low aspect ratio. 2. Being so close to the surface, there are pressure losses to the surface. Stern hung rudders always have this problem at the top end and while it isn't stern hung, it is almost the same issue near the surface. It does however avoid getting hung up on rocks etc and not a bad solution to landing through surf.
Rudders & skegs mounted well under the keel and forward of the stern are the most efficient but this is problematic for kayaks, except for retractable skegs. A rudder on a kayak is basically a trimming skeg rather than a steering device as you still have to edge the hull to turn. Kayak rudders tend to be pretty ineffectual without edging or edging the wrong way. All the rudder does is compensate for side slip in adverse conditions so it is really acting as a skeg, improving direction stability.
Basically, the longer and deeper a rudder is, the more efficient it is and the more effective small deflections are for it's area. If it is efficient enough and large enough, it could become a turning device but that would be unusual in kayaks.
Finding any decent kayak under $1000 is nearly impossible in this pandemic
Let me know when your ready to part with it
I’m ready! $800 and I have a sweet sail rig to go with it.