I think a fast 030 is the Amiga sweet spot for most people. It will make the system usage smooth and responsive and while most games won't notice, any difference most 3D games will be significantly speed up. When I moved up to the 040 (and now 060) I did so just for the rendering speed and any games that utilize it were just a bonus.
Stack of Pis guy, here, I had no malintent with that comment. You are one of my absolute favorite RUclipsrs and in my mind you are stacked up there with Administrative Results and 3Blue1Brown in terms of content value. :) My intent was just to ease any worry that you might have about heat.
You have no worries. I was “Ham’n” it up for camera. :) but for real it’s good to know it’s not a concern, the heat. Thanks for your views and participation!
@@HoldandModify I was honestly disappointed. My team and I were discussing the possible cooling requirements for these bricks and we (me, really) decided that if heat was a problem then we'd just have to sink them into a cube aquarium filled with Novec 7100.
Nice one Q! When I bought my 1200 (back in the day) I also bought a 40MHz GVP 1230 with MMU and 4MB of fastram. Added the FPU a year later. About 10 years ago I added another 16MB to it. About 5 years ago I replaced the CPU for a 50MHz one and changed the clock generator for a 52MHz one.That was simple since it was in a socket and not soldered to the board. That 1200 system has always been my "daily driver" Amiga so to speak. Oh, and SysInfo has always said "(Not in use)" about the MMU, even when it was in use since I had enforcer running at the same time...
Oh man thanks for sharing your Amiga story. I dig hearing about what folks did. Also good to know about SysInfo. Man I learn more and more from ya’ll!!
oh-boy, this brings back memories. Used to have a GVP jaws 030 40mhz 4MB back in the days. Served me quite well for some years, until the Fastram stopped working.
@@HoldandModify Absolutely.. my best times on the Amiga was with the A1200 with that board installed. Never did have the same fun, when i upgraded to A4000 with 060+CV64.
In the 90's I got a brand new Blizzard 1230 IV, it was the perfect card for my 1200, years after I had Blizzard 060, but at the end I just went back to my trusty Blizzy 1230 Mk IV, classic Amiga 1200 doesn't really need more than this great card !!
I moved on from A1200 to PC around that time those PPC accelerators became a thing so I don't really care about that part of the Amiga hardware/software eco system. It's interesting how others push things to the limit in that regard. I might buy a pistorm sometime just to see how far I can push my A1200 on the cheap but I don't really have a use for it. If I want to render something really quickly I might as well use WinUAE or if it's about LW 3D, I can as easily use a PC version with native binaries for windows that will hit it out of the ballpark with 32 core CPU (13900K).
Thanks for the video on the Jaws. In my A1200 I currently have a Jaws II (or by its crazy long name A1230 Turbo+ Series II) with 16MB RAM in it and it is great for gaming and playing demos. It also has the SCSI daughterboard, but don't own any external SCSI CD Drives to try it out. As others have commented, I think my SysInfo also shows the MMU not in use.
Yes. It’s a lot of fun using them as we used to in the late 80s or early 90s. Even though I haven’t jumped yet into the PiStorm bandwagon, I do have as many accelerated systems as I can… But, some of my machines are intended to be as quirky as they were, namely my CDTV with its plain 68000 processor, and my A500 got a GVP A530 Turbo accelerator only and a maximum of 8MB of 32bit FastRAM, also with its old, old, 120 MB SCSI HDD … And it’s a lot of fun too! 😊 Cheers and keep up doing great videos as usual. 🎉❤❤ - Pure 68030 goodness and very enjoyable. 😊
Great video Q! At least you didn't do what I did back in 93-94, when I bought my Jaws II A1230+ with EC030 40Mhz for my 1200, I installed and switched on my 1200... And nothing, my 1200 wasn't any faster. Was the accelerator faulty I thought?... Did I install the card incorrectly?... What was I missing I remember thinking?... Then after fiddling around with the card, scratching my head and finally deciding to read the instructions I realised the card needed ram to work! And I hadn't bought any for mine. Doh! 😄
@@daishi5571 Yeah I got to agree, I remember upgrading from 1mb A500 to A1200, the performance increase was disappointing. I did hear that simply adding extra fast ram would by itself add a decent speed boost to the A1200.
@@timbob9910 What didn't help for me was that I had upgraded a friends A500 to a 020 @ 16MHz and the A1200 wasn't as fast. But just adding Fast RAM to the A1200 easily made it quicker than that. I would say it was twice as fast as a stock A1200.
I used to have an A1200 tower with a ppc 240mhz and a 040/40mhz the ppc side was excellent at accelerating things like encoding mp3s ect on os 3.9 I miss it now but they are so rare and expensive now i wish that I held on to it 🙂
Great! Is it normal for the 030 that InstructionCache and Burst are on while Data only Cache is on while DataBurst is off? I only had 68000 A-1000 and 040 and 060 A-4000 so I have no experience and really would like to know.
Q you already know what I’m gonna say about that piece of junk SysInfo😂 I agree! My A1200 in original case will always run my Blizzard MKIV-030@50 with 32MB it’s my go to for testing stuff as it’s the most compatible & stable system ever & I’ve had it forever 😊
Nice accelerator really. If a person was just using it for games, a 68030 is just perfect. I am quite content with the performance of my 68030 machines
Ive settled on a stock A500 with a gotek and HDMI out as my nostalgia fix Amiga. The tricked out A1200 was really a case of diminishing returns for an Amiga gamer like me.
No MMU should mean you have 680EC30 @ 40 MHz, just like my Wizard Developments Magnum 1230/40. Two years ago I bought a 68030@30 MHZ, but since we were talking about the PLCC package, I haven't tried to change the CPUs, although I have the tools for it. Might not be worth the risk.
I think a fast 030 is the Amiga sweet spot for most people. It will make the system usage smooth and responsive and while most games won't notice, any difference most 3D games will be significantly speed up. When I moved up to the 040 (and now 060) I did so just for the rendering speed and any games that utilize it were just a bonus.
Same. That’s what I’ve found too.
Stack of Pis guy, here, I had no malintent with that comment. You are one of my absolute favorite RUclipsrs and in my mind you are stacked up there with Administrative Results and 3Blue1Brown in terms of content value. :) My intent was just to ease any worry that you might have about heat.
You have no worries. I was “Ham’n” it up for camera. :) but for real it’s good to know it’s not a concern, the heat. Thanks for your views and participation!
@@HoldandModify I was honestly disappointed. My team and I were discussing the possible cooling requirements for these bricks and we (me, really) decided that if heat was a problem then we'd just have to sink them into a cube aquarium filled with Novec 7100.
@@hessex1899 lol!
Nice one Q! When I bought my 1200 (back in the day) I also bought a 40MHz GVP 1230 with MMU and 4MB of fastram. Added the FPU a year later. About 10 years ago I added another 16MB to it. About 5 years ago I replaced the CPU for a 50MHz one and changed the clock generator for a 52MHz one.That was simple since it was in a socket and not soldered to the board. That 1200 system has always been my "daily driver" Amiga so to speak. Oh, and SysInfo has always said "(Not in use)" about the MMU, even when it was in use since I had enforcer running at the same time...
Oh man thanks for sharing your Amiga story. I dig hearing about what folks did. Also good to know about SysInfo. Man I learn more and more from ya’ll!!
Program means there may be other programs on the channel. 🤔 Q is secretly about to drop his Atari Falcon show confirmed. 😅
😂
Gaaaaaaah!! ;)
oh-boy, this brings back memories. Used to have a GVP jaws 030 40mhz 4MB back in the days. Served me quite well for some years, until the Fastram stopped working.
It’s a great card though, right?
@@HoldandModify Absolutely.. my best times on the Amiga was with the A1200 with that board installed. Never did have the same fun, when i upgraded to A4000 with 060+CV64.
In the 90's I got a brand new Blizzard 1230 IV, it was the perfect card for my 1200, years after I had Blizzard 060, but at the end I just went back to my trusty Blizzy 1230 Mk IV, classic Amiga 1200 doesn't really need more than this great card !!
It really is a sweet spot.
I moved on from A1200 to PC around that time those PPC accelerators became a thing so I don't really care about that part of the Amiga hardware/software eco system. It's interesting how others push things to the limit in that regard. I might buy a pistorm sometime just to see how far I can push my A1200 on the cheap but I don't really have a use for it. If I want to render something really quickly I might as well use WinUAE or if it's about LW 3D, I can as easily use a PC version with native binaries for windows that will hit it out of the ballpark with 32 core CPU (13900K).
Thanks for the video on the Jaws. In my A1200 I currently have a Jaws II (or by its crazy long name A1230 Turbo+ Series II) with 16MB RAM in it and it is great for gaming and playing demos. It also has the SCSI daughterboard, but don't own any external SCSI CD Drives to try it out. As others have commented, I think my SysInfo also shows the MMU not in use.
Thanks for sharing the info. Good to know!
Yes. It’s a lot of fun using them as we used to in the late 80s or early 90s.
Even though I haven’t jumped yet into the PiStorm bandwagon, I do have as many accelerated systems as I can… But, some of my machines are intended to be as quirky as they were, namely my CDTV with its plain 68000 processor, and my A500 got a GVP A530 Turbo accelerator only and a maximum of 8MB of 32bit FastRAM, also with its old, old, 120 MB SCSI HDD … And it’s a lot of fun too! 😊
Cheers and keep up doing great videos as usual. 🎉❤❤
- Pure 68030 goodness and very enjoyable. 😊
A cool to hear about your CDTV. Yeah I’m keeping my A1000 stock. Thanks as always for hanging out!
Great video Q! At least you didn't do what I did back in 93-94, when I bought my Jaws II A1230+ with EC030 40Mhz for my 1200, I installed and switched on my 1200... And nothing, my 1200 wasn't any faster. Was the accelerator faulty I thought?... Did I install the card incorrectly?... What was I missing I remember thinking?... Then after fiddling around with the card, scratching my head and finally deciding to read the instructions I realised the card needed ram to work! And I hadn't bought any for mine. Doh! 😄
LOL I had a similar experience when I first got the A1200. I thought it would be quicker, but after I added extra memory I was happily surprised.
Lol! Oh wow. Hah, that’s great.
@@daishi5571 Yeah I got to agree, I remember upgrading from 1mb A500 to A1200, the performance increase was disappointing. I did hear that simply adding extra fast ram would by itself add a decent speed boost to the A1200.
@@timbob9910 What didn't help for me was that I had upgraded a friends A500 to a 020 @ 16MHz and the A1200 wasn't as fast. But just adding Fast RAM to the A1200 easily made it quicker than that. I would say it was twice as fast as a stock A1200.
I used to have an A1200 tower with a ppc 240mhz and a 040/40mhz the ppc side was excellent at accelerating things like encoding mp3s ect on os 3.9 I miss it now but they are so rare and expensive now i wish that I held on to it 🙂
We all do, heh.
I am seeing this video as a cry for help. The only solution to this existentialist crisis is to buy at least one, possibly two or three, more A1200s.
Lol! I have three as is! Nooooooo!!! Hahah!
@@HoldandModify I really need to step up my game...
Great! Is it normal for the 030 that InstructionCache and Burst are on while Data only Cache is on while DataBurst is off?
I only had 68000 A-1000 and 040 and 060 A-4000 so I have no experience and really would like to know.
Not really sure. Would need to look into that.
Real Amiga nostalgia being the sweet spot of an Accelerator + RAM card! Don’t you think?
It is. For sure. 100%.
Q you already know what I’m gonna say about that piece of junk SysInfo😂
I agree! My A1200 in original case will always run my Blizzard MKIV-030@50 with 32MB it’s my go to for testing stuff as it’s the most compatible & stable system ever & I’ve had it forever 😊
YOU ROCKSTAR. :)
@@HoldandModify not what my wife calls me but I’ll take that as a compliment🤷♂️
Nice accelerator really. If a person was just using it for games, a 68030 is just perfect. I am quite content with the performance of my 68030 machines
It’s a great card of balance. Heh.
Ive settled on a stock A500 with a gotek and HDMI out as my nostalgia fix Amiga.
The tricked out A1200 was really a case of diminishing returns for an Amiga gamer like me.
that’s a great setup you got for yourself! Absolutely a game monster! Thanks for leaving the comment. appreciated. we’re a niche bunch for sure.
No MMU should mean you have 680EC30 @ 40 MHz, just like my Wizard Developments Magnum 1230/40.
Two years ago I bought a 68030@30 MHZ, but since we were talking about the PLCC package, I haven't tried to change the CPUs, although I have the tools for it. Might not be worth the risk.
Yup, In learned that it was an EC and what that meant, heh. I’ll leave it be though. Original accelerator cards are hard to come by.
@@HoldandModify It's good enough as it is. Even the ACA620, with a 68EC020 @ 16.67Mhz, in my A600 is enough for most games.
I have a JAWS II I think it is with 32MB...
Great card! Cherish!
my a 2000 has cards that i bought in 1996 with my blizzard 2060 and my picasso 4
Sweet!! Great cards!
Best at Amiga.
Yes!