Top 5 Pocket Concealed Carry Handguns for 2023
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- In this episode of TFBTV, @JamesReeves is talking POCKET ROCKETS: If you're looking for the perfect pocket carry gun for concealed carry, then this video is for you. We'll be discussing the top 5 handguns that are ideal for concealing in your pocket. We'll be covering pistols like the Glock 42 and Glock 43, the Ruger LCP Max, the Kel-Tec P3AT, the Kahr CM9 and PM9, the Sig P365, Smith & Wesson 340 PD (and more), comparing their features to determine which ones offer the best balance of size, firepower, and reliability. Whether you're a seasoned gun owner or just starting out, this video will provide valuable insight into choosing the right handgun for your needs. So sit back, relax, and let's dive into the top 5 handguns for pocket carry.
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It was such a pleasure meeting the TFB and Neutral Ground crew yesterday! Thank you guys for the warm hospitality and for bringing together such a great crowd. Well worth the drive from “beautiful” Mississippi 😂 I’ll definitely see you guys again soon!
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Why isnt the Taurus GX4 here?
Nice. I'm jealous
I had to watch this vid like ten times because my gf wouldn’t stfu, I started to think I was watching a video about attaining nirvana or something
@@borpheousmaximusv3985 Shes always nice to me !
My wife use to carry an LCP, she could place all 7 on an 8.5 x 11 paper at 21 feet in quick order, she like the weight, and size, I got the LCP Max, she tried it. Now I have to get a LCP Max. She smiled at the much easier to shoot LCP Max over the basic LCP. Oh, we are in our 70's but in good shape and active.
My daily carry has 2 inch barrel. Been carrying it for 53 years
@@RT-ol4hh oh it is definitely on its last legs.
@@RT-ol4hh are you sure you’re picking up what OP is putting down?
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@@RT-ol4hh It is a joke... he was talking about his pee pee.
I carry the Ruger LCP Max in a kydex holster on my hip. It disappears. I sprawl out on my couch and forget it’s there.
I bought the LCP Max about 6 months ago. Had horrible failure to feed problems at first so I sent it back to Ruger. Got it back in no more than a week with a whole new upper assembly:...slide, barrel, recoil spring, etc. No more feeding issues. It's a great gun. And Ruger's vaunted warranty dept. is no shit good to their word!
I had a similar issue.and also got Ruger to repair and replace. Excellent service.
I had to send mine back twice. Great customer service though. Wish I didn't have to send back at all. It really has the perfect stats
How was is the trigger? Hard to pull?
Sucks that you had to send it back at all especially for extensive work.
Hi, I bought my LCP MAX this year in February and it’s finally the gun I have been carrying on me all the time! Mostly in a kydex holster on my 3, but sometimes in the desantis holster in my pocket too. I have something over 500 rounds trough it, no cleaning at all, no malfunctions. And it’s relatively precise when one gets used to it. Works much better for me than both Glock 43 and 42 and I have tried both.
I carried the Sig P938 for years, until I badly tore my right rotator cuff. I then switched to the Sig P365 w/ external safety, and have never looked back.
Tritium night sights are standard on both models. 9mm on both. No reason to compromise. I can hit clay pigeon targets at 25 yards if needed. A great everyday carry option, even though I sometimes carry a full-size sidearm as well.
To me, trigger quality, sights, and recoil are all significant factors, and I really like both of these Sigs for that reason, especially the P365.
Incidentally, I had never carried or shot southpaw, but was able to do this effectively with the P365, when I had no use of my right arm/hand.
I purchased my LCP MAX on New Years Day. I was happy to see that it was your #1 pocket rocket. Especially, after you kept mentioning it while speaking about your #4 "controversial" Kel-Tec pick. I love the LCP Max for its CCW capability. It does take a little adjustment when shooting it. But, worth it for when it's needed.
My pocket pistol is a Ruger 380 max love it for it's concealability
I have two of the Kel-Tec P32s, which is basically the P3AT but chambered in .32acp. I love them. They disappear in your pocket.
same here, my personal fave edc, in pocket carry, the P32 🤙
Agreed. P32 is my carry gun.
I carried a p32 for years... Then I got the LCP Max. Now the LCP Max is in my pocket and the p32 is on my ankle(I don't wear shorts).
I would love if Ruger made a LCP MAX in .32
@@nonopopo1985 that would be awesome. In .32acp it could probably hold 4 more rounds in the same size package.
I really like my LCP MAX for what it is. I have about 400 rounds through mine with zero issues.
I have the old S+W airweight 38 with (wad cutters)hammer hump back frame. I've had it for 40 years probably . It will be with me tomorrow when I go into the city. Never had to use it thank God.
I love my LCP Max. I added rubber talon grips, Galloway Precision steel guide rod and heavier spring, Lasermax Gripsense green laser, and M Carbo adjustable trigger.
One of my favorite mouse guns I own is the LW Seecamp in .32 it’s so tiny but easy to shoot. It literally fits in a front tshirt pocket
Absolutely! Small yet extremely high quality and reliable.
I heard the slide can pop off, on a 380 version anyway.
These are the most efficient guns, but they're a handful. These picks are excellent for experienced shooters who can handle the recoil. For less recoil, pick guns that are a little larger or shoot a less powerful cartridge. For the size and weight of the Kel-Tec P-380 without the heavy recoil, consider the Kel-Tec P-32. Instead of the S&W AirLite .38/.357, there's a (unfortunately discontinued) .32 H&R Magnum that's almost identical in construction (but holds an extra round in the cylinder). And when the LCP Max is too snappy, there's the Sig P365-380. Much easier to shoot while still pocket/microcompact size.
I think the inclusion of the G42 covers accessibility while still being petite. When I was starting shooting handguns around a decade ago, I jumped straight into range rental compact carry firearms (like an idiot) and the learning curve was incredibly steep. I couldn't hit shit with the LCPs, sw shields, p238s, etc. After cycling through the rental cabinet I landed on the fancy new pocket Glock and within 3 mags was punching a ragged hole whereas with the others I was struggling to stay on paper at all. I purchased a 42 almost immediately after and have used it as a teaching tool for girlfriends and family who I've taken shooting ever since.
@@FriENTlyFire sometimes I think it's better not to mess around with tiny subcompacts if you're a new shooter. Full sized or compact pistols are so much more forgiving, whereas a subcompact will increase any slight issues you might have with grip or trigger control. Plus, they can be painful to shoot. People ought to have a good time shooting so they'll keep going to the range and practicing.
@@samadams8355 a teaching tool, not the teaching tool. G42 is the first carry sized forearm I pull out after fundamentals are covered on more conventional platforms. Sorry if that was unclear.
You mention the discontinued S&W .32 H&R Magnum - just to say that Ruger still makes an LCR in .327 Federal Magnum that will happily shoot the .32 H&R Magnum, .32 Long, and .32 (Short). With the longer Hogue grip, .327 is manageable, but you'll prefer the .32 H&R Magnum with the boot grip. Great snubbies, these.
I EDC a 3032 Tomcat. Totally concealable in my DeSantis pocket holster, and as Paul Harrell points out, while making a circular motion around his head, .32 ACP can be a very effective caliber given the correct shot placement. That Bond Arms Bullpup is no joke (watch a video on how it cycles - it'll blow your mind) but runs about $1100 new. There are a lot of mil-surp guns that are great for EDC. One of my EDC favorites is my Radom P-64 (9x18 Makarov). Comes pre-melted from the factory, is lightweight and the capacity is 6 plus 1. 9x18 Makarov being, of course, the Commie .380 ACP. Threw some sick French Walnut grips on it, and BAM!! A gun that'll get you laid. Or save your life. Both good.
Never thought I'd carry a ruger, but the lcp max has become my "I don't want to carry today" carry. It's probably going to be my summer carry as well with shorts and a slim fitting shirt. It shoots great even with the heavier trigger, I've had nothing but reliability from it so far minus not locking back on the last round with the flush mag sometimes. Might take some more breaking in.
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That's the perfect way to put it. The LCP Max has become my "I don't want to carry today" carry as well. I never thought I would carry a Ruger either!
@@ThomasKirouacP?
same here, i wear overalls for work, and it’s the only gun i can carry
I love my Bersa Thunder 380 extended mag. 10 rounds. Almost the same size as the ruger. Double action single action. It’s a bit heavier but so am I. Tack driver. 3000 rounds or so now and it still just works every time.
Living in FL I pocket carry a lot during the summer. LCP II is usually what I go to. I also have a LCP Max but there is a noticeable weight difference when its in something like swim trunks or exercise shorts. As a side note a couple of years ago I was hit my a truck at 60ish mph while on my motorcycle with a LCP II in my pocket in a sticky holster and it did not go off. My pelvis broke in 3 places along with 14 other bones so it definitely took an impact. Took it to the range a few months later after being able to walk again and put two boxes of ammo through it with no problems. I don't know if I would call that drop tested but I feel comfortable with it in my pocket in a pocket holster.
I am from FL and I totally agree about pocket holsters! Hope you are mending well after the accident!
I'd call it a drop test.
I conceal a S&W 640 Pro Series most of the time. I don't carry in pocket (any gun), but the j frames nearly disappear if you IWB appendix. Huge fan of the power/reliability a 357 j frame provides. And I believe it's enough gun for 'likely' scenarios.
I love my 649, which is basically the same gun with a different hammer
LCP Max with the 12 round mags loaded with Underwood extreme defenders is an amazing combo. I carry in my work place and I cant conceal much easily. You run a J and J leather wallet holster. You dump it in your pocket and roll
Paul Harrell did a video on .380 ACP Underwood Extreme Defenders. It was impressive. I had counted out .380 ACP as a defensive round due to it's well deserved reputation of not being able to expand hollow points reliably. If I were to carry .380, it would have to be Underwood Extreme Defenders!
@@AverageJoe4063 nah, just carry some quality European FMJ. Much more reliable feeding in a quick react situation. You’re gonna need two hits, so let’s just stick with what feeds + easy to shoot.
@@macriggland6526 which european ammo and why european? Explain yourself.
@@AverageJoe4063 Paul does some great videos, but he’s also far from scientific. Shootingthebull410 has a great series on .380 ammunition testing. Check it out.
@@alm9951 It’s just better. Fiocchi ammo is decent. Needs to be a round nose so it tumbles.
Great choices, and agree with most of them. Carried a Colt Gov't Mk4 .380 for years so never had a problem with the caliber, replaced it with a S&W Bodyguard .380. I've carried it and shot it for so long now really don't consider anything else for pocket carry.
Proud owner of a first gen 340pd. My wrists hate every range visit but it's been my summer carry for years.
Try a Houge grip on it.
@@scottpearce7466Hogue grips are the only reason I still carry it. Otherwise, I wouldn't have the confidence I do to train with, and potentially use it, effectively
Kahr CW380, aftermarket fiber optic sights, and I'm one that loves that long, smooth, DAO trigger pull. Many rounds through it, I trust it.
Me, too. I put an Agrip wrap on it for best 2-finger 'traction', very thin and durable. And an Armalaser in 520nm/green that activates automatically. Hornady Critical Defense has been 100% reliable. Stay safe.
Kahrs have great triggers, people say that doesn’t matter for a carry gun but it’s the reason I shoot it so much.
I have a p365 but I always come back to my Smith and Wesson 642. I just love that gun.
Hard to beat a S&W 642 for edc ( I love the shoot from a pocket revolver option if needed) ...it does not matter if you carry a double stacked 9mm semi auto if it never makes it out of your pocket because you have already been hit in the head with a pipe
@@timarrington2245 Wise words! The ergonomics of a small revolver are hard to beat.
Love my LCP Max .380! So far it's been 100% reliable and 'minute of man accurate! I appendix carry my Sig P365 with the Ruger as my Ace in the hole. Great video James!
Have owned many of these guns, but chose the super cool Beretta Tomcat as my absolute favorite pocket gun.
Have you tried the Bersa thunder? I have a threaded version, 380, but if you ever want to step up in caliber you need to give it a go.
I find my LCP Max very easy to shoot accurately, that's what I love about it 👍
Same. Especially after I added a 13lb recoil spring and a Sigurd short stroke trigger. It’s less snappy now and even easier to shoot accurately(at least for me).
Super easy to carry, but maybe the worst "range gun" I ever shot. If you don't mind vibrations thru your fingers, then it's pretty sweet. Appears that trigger and spring upgrades are available.
@@jayp4114 There's worse out there. A Bodyguard .380 has probably the single worst trigger I've ever felt on a gun. A straight blowback PPK in .380 will recoil more and bite you with the slide if you're not careful.
I think the G42 shoots the best for pocket rockets, but it gives away some in capacity. The P365 shoots decently and has capacity, but it's larger and heavier. Pluses and minuses to everything.
@@jayp4114 I dunno, I find mine pleasant to shoot after adding the MCarbo trigger to it. I regularly shoot 200rnds a month at my range.
Same here. Oddly, I find it easier to point shoot quickly than trying to ADS. It's the only pistol I fire faster in a defense type situation than taking aim.
The lcp max is hands down my favorite edc in regards to comfort with athletic wear.
A word to the wise. When pocket carrying.. always use a pocket holster.. my two favorites are the DeSantis Nemesis and the DeSantis Superfly pocket holster with velcro on flap to prevent printing in the pocket.. also those little lcps.. Kel-Tec 380.. and Taurus TCP .. they have extremely snappy recoil.. you must use a death grip on them or they will muzzle up and bite you with the slide! Another useful accessory is the slip-on pachmeyer rubber sleeve grip.. this gives you a little more to grab onto and more traction and cushions your hand from the snappy recoil
Definitely use a pocket holster.
I carry my lcp max in a Vedder pocket locker. I also have the Vedder for my smith snubbie and glock 26. Great holsters.
The S&W 442 Airweight is top dog in my books, never a single failure even with the lighter 13lb Wilson Combat spring kit I put in it. I’ve tried almost ALL of the pocket semi-auto 380s I just cannot get the reliability Im comfortable with. Which with a carry piece is 100% zero failures unless undeniably ammo related. For me when I carry a pocket gun its because having another gun or extra mags isn’t feasible so the pistol has to be perfect, I will not tolerate the possibility of a malfunction when it comes to saving my life. Perfection is achievable from semi auto, just look at larger guns like the P365, Hellcat, 43X but no one with a pocket 380 has done it yet. So in the meantime the 442 is my little pocket rocket that could.
Taurus 856 UL has been my go to for the past couple of years. Light and 6 rounds of 38 along with a couple of speed strips have been my companions.
I have the standard 856. Couldn't get my hands on the ul. Still like it
S&W 640 Pro. Most naturally pointing revolver I've ever fired, came with good tritium sights. Great little pistol.
A choice I like is the North American Arms 22 Magnum. I usually keep it as a backup to my daily carry, but for places like the movie theater or going out to eat, I love throwing it in my pocket and forgetting about it because of how small it is.
A 22 between the eyes is better than a 9 mm in the thigh. People always crap on 22’s for self defense but I don’t think anyone wants to catch the bullet.
@@markallen4001 22 mag isn't like any Ole 22
@@marksweetser6312 you are correct. I have a Ruger single six with a 22 lr and a 22 mag cylinder
NAA Wasp 22 magnum goes anywhere any time .... except the airport lol
@@marksweetser6312 thats only true in rifles. Out of those NAA mini revolvers, has the same muzzle energy of 22lr from a rifle
In my pocket carry rotation I have the Keltec P32(8 rounds of 32acp) the NAA mini revolver(22mag 1-5/8" barrel), and the original gen 2 LCP. They all work extremely well for their intended purpose. Great list James!
My current pocket pistol and one that I actually enjoy is my s&w 637-2 .38 special very simple and reliable but only get 5 shots but I love it
I have a Ruger LCP2 that ive had for almost five years and its not my only carry, but it has a lot of pocket miles on it. Slim, compact, light, fits any pocket i have, always works, even if it spends a little too much time in there in between shooting sessions. Love it.
I got the LCP II for a great price a few months ago. Would have preferred the max, but gun deals just got me that day. I've carried it a lot more than I thought I would, and even started carrying it in place of the Air Weight when going on jogs. Great little guns.
@@steezemilkshake how well does the Boraii holster work when drawing from the pocket? My Galco holster worked great until I added a hogue grip. Does the hook keep it in the pocket?
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My dad has a LCP II , it's too small for me and hurts my hand. My first carry pistol was the LC9.
@@claudiaclaudia936 only if you don't know how to shoot 😋
@@918Mitchell I had to put a Hogue LCPII grip sleeve on my LCP Max to prevent it from hurting my hand.
DB9 gen 4 is my new pocket carry, retired the pf9 for a more compact pocket 9 with a much better finish, construction and trigger with a form factor that doesn't look like I'm packing a banana in my pocket. Reliability has been phenomenal, same as my pf9. No issues at all.
I was gonna mention that. I've heard the first 3 gens were very unreliable, but that the gen 4 is pretty good
I just wish Diamondback would put out a reliable extended magazine, one that makes use of that pinky rest space with another round or two...
Yep, LCP MAX is a phenomenal pocket gun. Nothing compares spec wise and it’s actually really reliable and looks good.
Unfortunately, my LCP Max ended up like the other two LCPs I previously owned. Ran great at first, but by 400 rounds it started up with FTF/FTE failures, and then started dropping magazines. Needless to say, I've bought my last Ruger pistol. It's a pity, because--on paper--the Max is just about perfect.
@@gregorymercurio7402 I had an LCP with issues as well. Was my third Ruger purchase. 10-22 was great. My 357. that will only have issues if I fire 20 rounds or more with fast reloading. The wheel gets tight and I got to murder it to get a round off(Still works and honestly nothing is going to survive 20 rounds of 357). My LCP never worked right even after being sent back to Ruger twice. Done with LCP forever.
At the upper end in size among my pocket-class guns (of those I carry, at least) is my Kel-Tec PF9, purchased in 2010. At three ounces lighter than the CM9, it's downright rude in hand, but easily manageable in determined hands, especially with 115-grain ammunition.
At the other end is the gun I bought the next year for deep concealment, the P32. I went with Kel-Tec's .32 over their .380 for the lighter and faster handling, the higher capacity, and the slidelock. Every time I handle this little gun, I'm still impressed with both what it is and what it started. With Kel-Tec's optional ten-round magazine along, I have eighteen rounds available for a gun that barely outweighs a loaded 1911 mag.
The "happy medium" in my pocket-class selections is the Ruger LCP-MAX. Some of my pockets accommodate it easily even with the optional 12-round magazine, though the bigger magazine and two more rounds in capacity do add to its weight. We appear to be in agreement that this gun is pretty much the logical go-to for pocket carry.
I usually carry a bigger gun on my belt and one of these in a pocket, but I want to ditch the belt gun entirely and go to tucked-in shirts again. Should that happen, I might be rocking the Ruger strong side and the little Kel-Tec as a BUG.
I've also frequently slipped a North American Arms .22LR revolver in my jeans watch pocket and slid the belt holster for my cellphone over it. With the butt of the gun turned to my left (I'm left-handed.), it conceals very easily, but is still readily accessible.
Thanks for sharing.
I’ve carried Keltec P38T ,Glock 26 , Glock 42, Even played with Bond arms, but my current favorite pocket favorite has to be a hammerless air weight j frame smith 442 .This one sports crimson trace grips and has been through the S&W performance center. Each to his own but I’m pretty happy and accurate enough for government work. It absolutely glides out of the pocket, or you can dump all 5 from inside your pocket. Tried a lot of stuff this is the best for me.
Im just an old guy that wanders around with his hands in his pockets.
I really enjoy your content- thank you.
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I am an Old Guy too. I Carry a 2" CharterArms 38 spc.5shot, with Fort Scott Ammo. I am very well Armed with this Combo. Five Rds. FortScott-.38+p's, at 1350fps. 95gr. Great Round,Pointed TUI ammo. Tumble Upon Impact. 16" in 20% Gel-Block. Terrible Wound Channel also(Terminal) to say the Least. Not a Hollow point Neither. More Court Room Friendly. Capeacsh!
I am a pocket carry fan. My 2 faves are S+W Bodyguard .380 and Taurus 856 .38sp.. I didn`t notice any mention of a proper pocket holster. That said I have never had a hammer problem with a Remora pocket holster. All nice pistols there.
The secret is not putting anything else other than the gun in your pocket.
How have more ppl not liked this?
My issue is my front right pocket is for pocket sand. So pocket carry outta the question
I own the LCP Max, and it has been a great little pocket gun. Have a bunch of rounds through it with zero issues. Used to pocket S&W Bodyguard, hard trigger to master, and less capacity. Still useful, though.
I think I've seen you on Freedom by Me's LCP max vids. I have had great luck with the LCP Max too. So easy to shoot, and 13 shots!
I was literally searching RUclips on Saturday for videos on pocketable pistols but noticed they were lacking. And now my favorite channel has made one. It's a miracle!
I have an Lcp 2 in 22LR and I love it. Great backup pistol and real nice training gun for my daughters when they get older.
I don't get a concept of a back up gun if you are civilian. If you are on a battlefield I get it. If you carrying extra mag o get it. But to carry two pistols.... you should live either in really really dangerous neighborhoods or just like the feeling that you can be sent to a Ukraine in a front line in any moment
@@valeriyGennadyevich there is another concept perhaps you should consider. Live and let live. What he carries should be of no concern to you.
Just bought an LCP MAX and really like it. It's the 1st .380 I ever owned. I always opted for a 9 mm for carry because I listened to all the guys that said .380 ACP was just too weak to stop an attacker. After watching RUclips videos about the penetration of .380 ACP in ballistic gel blocks, I liked the results because I would rather have my bullets stop inside of an attacker's body instead of going through and hitting an innocent bystander. Just my preference.
Completely agree. I would challenge anyone who says .380 won't stop an attack to let you shoot them center mass with a 90g JHP .380 round and tell you they would keep attacking.
SIG P365 with a manual safety and a sticky holster! All day every day! I love pocket carry. It's the most comfortable option for me! I even have the XL grip on my P365. It's so comfortable and small yet still 9mm!
What holster specifically or brand would you recommend?
@@ldope3904 The Sticky Holsters brand is perfect for a soft pocket carry holster. If you want a really comfortable IWB holster I would go with N8 Tactical.
I carry the p365 without the manual safety in an Alabama pocket holster. 10+1 baby
Totally agree!
@@ldope3904 I love the Versacarry Pocket holster for the p365. The leather makes it super comfortable, and I can reliably draw the gun from the holster (though I have put, and continue to put, a lot of practice into it).
I have pocket carried daily since mid 1990s .. ALWAYS IN A POCKET HOLSTER THAT COVERS THE TRIGGER GUARD! First was my Beretta 950 BS Jetfire.... I then purchase and carried a Kel-Tec p-32.gen one .. in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster.. this is still the good I carry when I'm wearing lightweight shorts.. I installed Kel-Tec anti-rimlock kits in the magazines and carry Hornady xtp hollow points... Next pocket pistol purchase was a Taurus TCP 380.. mine is drop Dead reliable and accurate out to 50 ft.. first time at the range 400 rounds not one stoppage! Carry it in a DeSantis Superfly pocket holster with velcroed on flap to prevent printing in the pocket... It's loaded with corbon DPX All copper hollow points.... Next up is my Smith & Wesson 342 airlite ti (titanium cylinder) 38 centennial. 11 oz unloaded.. I carry Federal hst . Hollow points (lite recoil like a 22 magnum). and it's in a DeSantis Superfly pocket holster..... I occasionally pocket holster my micro 9mm Ruger lc9s pro.. again in a Superfly pocket holster.... To carry these in your pocket without a holster that covers the trigger guard is stupid just an accident waiting to happen I always carry my guns in a pocket holster
Keltec P32 - lightest center fire semi auto ever, 8 rounds of easily controlled and pleasant to shoot .30 caliber slugs. So small and so light it will travel well in any pocket - leaving enough space for a large hand to actually get a decent grip on the pistol while inside the pocket.
The best Kel Tec ever.
Another excellent and entertaining video from James. He was seemingly born for this. My two go-to’s for daily carry are the Ruger LCP Max and Ruger LCP (original). Though they’re both very small for guns, the original feels decidedly slimmer than the Max, but only holds 6 instead of 10 rounds (plus 1 in the chamber). I love my Sig P365 but I really don’t consider it a pocket gun. Compared to the two Rugers, it’s bigger, thicker, and heavier. It’s awesome, but I usually end up leaving it at home. I also love my Glock 42 (it’s probably my favorite) but it’s also just slightly too big for my pant pockets. When I carry it in my back jeans pocket (in a pocket holster), the top sticks out just a bit. Since I want my EDC to be both comfortable AND comforting, I almost always go with the smaller choice. I make exceptions and go with something bigger when I venture out of my safe little town. I would add that probably my other “favorite” small gun is the Ruger LCR snub-nosed revolver chambered in 38 special, but how the heck am I supposed to fit that in my pant pocket. So that favorite gun usually stays at home too. These are the things I spend my downtime thinking about.
I'm 60,on disability due to back problems and bad knees. Total knee replacement on right knee, so size and weight are very important. I carry a P365 9 mm with a DeSantis pocket holster with no problems in my right front pocket. The 380 is much lighter, but as long as I can carry a 9 mm, I will a 380 is not a 9 mm. I care more about stopping the threat than comfort. I'm so used to carrying it, I don't even notice it.
I'm 5'5" and carry a Ruger 5.7 in my gym shorts, not in the pocket, but oh well.
You must wear skinny jeans with tight pockets.
Try Fort Scott.380 ammo(TUI) 95gr. at 1005fps. 300ft.lbs.of Knock down Energy,Great
I felt like the Sig Sauer P238 is far easier to shoot than the Ruger LCP. The recoil in that little polymer pistol is rough
So do you pocket carry or iwb just curious cuz I have a sig p238
Sig P365-380 is probably the way to go if you want a .380 easier to shoot than the LCP Max. The new Glock 28 (the .380 version of the G26) is larger and the word is still out on it but I doubt it's very much easier to shoot than the P365-380.
@@Paelorian if we are leaving the door open for the G28, then there are many .380s of mid size which we now must include.
@@stevieweebee I have a Sig P238 and a S&W 442. I ONLY pocket or ankle carry these guns. If I am going to iwb, then I'll carry a bigger gun.
@@Paelorian Glock 28 is direct blowback and P365-380 is not so I bet the G28 does not shoot as nicely
Thanks for this comparison! I’ve been looking hard at a few of these, especially the Ruger. Way back when, for a pocket carry gun you could either have a .22 LR or a .25 auto. Now we’re up to .380!!! I think it’s funny when Glock came out with the 42 everyone laughed including people from Glock. What actually happened was ammo companies started making quality self defense ammo for the new 42 knowing that there would be a demand. We are so lucky to be in this day in age with almost unlimited choices!!
James, go back and watch your own video of the Kahr 380. Guess what? I bought one then after watching it. Fell in love with it.rated for Plus P or hot ammo rated. And shoots every thing so mild.
The Kahr is so much lighter than the Glock. So much smaller for the pocket. The Kahr rules. Forget the LCP's. If you shot them enough you would know they do not hold up long. Throw away guns. Sorry, James, you had it right the first time with the Kahr. James, weight matters. Huge difference in 10oz vs 18.
I owned an LCP and it didn’t hold up. But I bought an LCP Max based on all the reviews and initially loved it. But I actually shoot my guns a lot and you’re right, they don’t hold up. I’d say ~1200-1500 rounds and it started malfunctioning. My trigger bar actually disconnects under rapid fire bc the lower is SO thin it isn’t strong enough. I keep going back to my PD340…
I tried my hardest to pull off pocket carrying my S&W Shield 9mm, but snagging on draw was a constant problem. I don't think anything beats a J-frame sized concealed hammer revolver for pocketability. Benefits: Smooth draw, no snags, ability to shoot from inside a coat pocket. My current pocket carry is an SP-101 with the hammer bobbed and loaded with 357 magnum 158gr HPs. With the SP-101 I can actually shoot these accurately and even practice with 357s relatively comfortably. It's a little heavy, but a good pocket holster mitigates that in cargo shorts.
I still love the little LCP. I thought about getting the LCP Max when it came out but the original is just the perfect size and weight for pocket carry no matter what I'm wearing.
I have the LCP and it's great. I keep a 7rd magazine in it.
@@yongyea4147 same; 7 plus one in the weapon with a second 6 rd mag as backup. This weapon is so easy to carry even with a tank top and shorts no profile. brilliant design.
Love it.
Diamondback DB9 Gen4 has served me very well. No malfunctions in hundreds of (admittedly painful) rounds. +P 9mm downright hurts in that thing, standard loads aren't bad until the 6th magazine or so. I've sent one of the firearms on this list back for warranty work twice, and it still hasn't returned from the second round after 3 months in their hands. The DB9 has been a very good replacement for it.
Gen 4?
The Gen4 DB9 is alot better than the previous generations. I would choose it over the Kahr any day. It does beat the absolute crap out of my palm, but that's not a concern for me in a defensive situation.
@@wolfhuntersarmory I liked the trigger on the earlier gens. They finally got the gun right, and fked the trigger up. LCP max is a much better option anyway.
@Victory 6 Actual I've never had an issue with the trigger... I pull it, and the gun goes bang. Every time. I'm not expecting a great trigger on a pocket sized $270 gun. Practice with your firearms and triggers don't matter as much. I have everything from Hi-Points to S&W, Canik, Beretta, Springfield, Sig, Walther, and Taurus and I'm just as accurate with one as I am the others. Not to say that a nice trigger isn't ideal, but it's a relatively small factor, especially in an emergency situation where fine motor skills are overpowered by adrenaline.
@@wolfhuntersarmory I don't like the new trigger because it's a glock style dingus. I prefer a true DA like the older generations.
Which many (unskilled people) consider to be harder to shoot.
That is all.
LCP Max has become my main edc. Sure, carrying it in the provided pocket holster probably isn't ideal but I always have it with me and that's better than leaving a different gun home.
Also I laughed pretty hard at "second degree murder distances" 😂
With a few cuts and some sewing the holster can be made much better
@@joshstocks6129 do you have any links to pictures of the mods?
Check out Robert Mika's hand made pocket holsters. Simply great. They allow for easy re-holstering without having to remove the holster. Seriously. For the price and quality they can't be beat. He makes them himself.
@@harperhellems3648 thanks, I will take a look!
I use either the Galco sticky or the Vedder pocket locker.
The S&W .380 Body Guard is an excellent choice. The sights suck, but for pocket carry at close distance it’s safe and reliable.
I've changed my sights with Williams orange fiber optic in the rear and a Night Fision yellow/green dot up front.
They are fine until the magazine starts falling out during use. Not cool.
@@anth5424had my bodyguard for about 10 years never not once has the the magazine fallen out! That’s a lot of pocket time
My Taurus Spectrum .380 has proven to be a very reliable pocket carry pistol with 7 + 1 capacity. It will shoot 3.5 inch average groups at 7 yards with Sierra 90 grain JHP ammo. Carried in a De Santis leather pocket holster, there is minimal risk of accidental discharge and it is easily concealed whether wearing cargo shorts, jeans or dress slacks. With a spare magazine dropped into the opposite pocket, you can be adequately prepared for a defensive reaction if warranted. While it's not an expensive pistol, I found mine to work well after breaking in the action after 100 rounds of FMJ range ammo.
I carry the first model lcp with a viridian green laser in the viridian pocket holster. Works fantastic for me. I bought the lcp when it first came out.
*Ruger LCP Max* nothing else comes close. 13shots, 15oz fully loaded and comes with factory night sights. I have Uploaded videos shooting 8 by 12 steel out to 20 yds no problem with an LCP Max.
100% agree. With the 12 rd mag I can shoot my max every bit as good as many full sized guns. And that capacity. Whoof. Your videos on the max are what caused me to buy mine. Thanks!
@@Followme556 Glad to help a fellow Grunt! :)
I feel the same about my Keltec. The small frame revolver in at least .38 cal has been always in my rotation. Love your list and reasoning.
Springfield 911 9mm Stainless is an awesome little pocket gun.
Thinnest, lightest, smallest 9mm I've ever shot and handled.
Slide to frame is fit is smooth, G10 trigger and grips, Ameriglo night sights from factory, and the recoil isn't bad at all either for its size and weight.
My pocket carry 9 mm is a Ruger lc9s pro..(pro =no external safety no mag disconnect) 17 oz & WOW drop dead reliable. First time at the range 400 rounds not one stoppage
I can shoot it extremely accurately even when using rapid fire I keep the groups nice and tight.. the trigger is really nice in the sights are really nice also fits right in my blue jeans pocket in a DeSantis Superfly pocket holster.. now it does bulge a little bit in tight jeans but.. in loose-fitting pants you won't see it at all..7+1=8 rounds .. when I purchased it I checked out the Glock 43 in the Kahr cm 9 .. no comparison the Ruger won out in the ergonomics dept .. triggered department and sites department.. for me the Ruger lc9s pro felt like it was made for my hand! Again I fired this at the range rapid fire as fast as I could pull the trigger at a skeleton Target approximately 35 ft and scored fantastic groups even one firing as fast as I could. It handles the recoil of the 9mm plus p with no trouble my carry round is corbon DPXcopper 9 mm hollow points...
Kimber micro 380. A bit heavy, but great sights, excellent trigger and very nice to shoot. Plus, you can use the safety if you want to to add a bit of protection from shooting yourself in the d+ck.
I had that happen. Thank God they were able to sew it back on but it's crooked now.
@@yongyea4147 you sure it isn’t Peyronie’s disease? They have treatments for that now…at least according to the commercial.
There are a couple I think often-unforeseen downsides to the LCPMax, which I discovered only after purchase. First, it's overall dimensions are extremely similar to the P365. Yeah the slide's thinner, but the handle is just as thick. Second, you're carrying extra rounds yes, but those extra rounds have weight. Combined with the larger grip and it ends up swinging around more than what I really wanted. I actually bought it for both pocket and ankle/band carry, but as an ankle carry it's noticeably-larger grips causes it to stick out noticeably from my ankle. I'm an extremely-average size dude (5'8", 145 lbs), so for larger people maybe this isn't an issue. For me at least though, I'm gonna end up going to Bass Pro at some point and swapping it for an LCPII instead. Which sucks because the Max is an absolutely excellent pistol, but when I put 2 and 2 together regarding it's size and characteristics, I realized it was essentially redundant for me given I already own a 365. Just some food for thought.
I’ll be happy to swap my gently used LCP II for your LCP Max. How do we do this?
I carry a lcpmax. I don't have any problem with the size or weight and I'm 70 with all kinds of ortho problems. If you can't handle what a 70yo can then you need to get off the twinkies and start working out.
How are you so small that you can’t carry an LCP Max? Lmfao
Even though it’s a tad bigger than most other pocket pistols I really like my Bersa Thunder 380. It fixes most of the issues the PPK has, suck as slide bite and not being able to use hollow points reliably. After something like 20 years it’s still going strong and like most other guns it’s more accurate than I am.
I’m it’s a great gun I have one. But the metallurgy is suspect. My slide stop doesn’t work anymore bc the metal seems soft.
Except it's relatively heavy as hell to be a pocket gun
yeah its like pot medal@@84kjk
Some guns may fit in your pocket but pulling it out with your hand on the grip gets difficult. That, for me, means the really small guns for pocket carry. I love my BG380 but I also just bought a 3032 Tomcat.
Kinda shocked that the Sig P238 didn’t make the list. Hammer and single stack, sure, but also significantly better trigger and smaller than most of the guns on the list.
Hasent that and the 938 been pretty much discontinued?
I think there's two real options here if we're talking true pocket. 9mms in that subcompact/micro size shoot like shit so I'm relegating it down to .380s:
If you care about premium shootability at the sacrifice of extra rounds: G42.
If you care more about capacity at the sacrifice of snappiness: LCP MAX.
The 340PD is awesome, but is downright abusive with .357s as all snubbies are. 5 rounds of .38 is a tough sell for a little over a grand, which will buy you both the G42 and MAX and leave you a couple hundo for ammo. If you're gung-ho about a wheelgun, the 340 is still a tough sell at its price when you can grab a Taurus 605 for a little less than $400.
Anyone that says a 380 is snappy should really stop shooting and take up ballet or something. A 357 magnum J Frame is snappy.
@@nomorerainbows Easy everyone, we got a tough guy over here
@@stevem4783 i mean dude, wtf.
@@nomorerainbows A lot of .380s can easily be described as snappy. I'd rather fire hot .44mag loads out of my smooth-gripped Redhawk all day than put a couple mags through a first-gen LCP, which literally nobody would describe as pleasurable to shoot.
There's nothing worse than internet hardos. Take it somewhere else, nobody cares how cool you are.
@@stevem4783 Well i've owned a LCP for years, and consider it to be a very easy gun to shoot mr. "I shoot a smooth gripped 44 magnum".
Panzy.
I just picked up a Ruger LCP Max 12+1 . That thing feels and performs flawless. Never thought I'd carry a .380 but with 13 rounds I don't feel under gunned. It's about the size of a wallet and is perfect for deep concealment. And weighs 10.8 oz
I pocket carry a Beretta 21a inox, it has been extremely reliable, and is a fun easy shooter with a great trigger that absolutely disappears into almost any pocket. 8 rounds of CCI Stinger seems completely adequate for use in a vehicle or store, definitely not the best choice but better than nothing. Plus if I have a belt on the little guy is just a backup for the Glock 22 that I almost always carry iwb at the 4 o’clock position. Good list TFB 👍🏻👍🏻
For nostalgia reasons, I’d included the Seecamp LWS 32.
Excellent list, and I concur with your observations. The Maxx is obviously the best choice, and affordable to almost everyone.
Great list. My favorite pocket guns are my S&W 442 and if that's too big in a non-permissive environment, my Kahr CW380 hides great in a pocket holster that looks like a wallet when pocketed. I have a tiny pocket holster that holds two spare mags for the .380, or I can tote speed loaders/speed strips easily for the .38 and even add a little discrete dump pouch for an extra quick 5 ... not that one is likely to have time to reload in a S-D situation, but it's nice having the option.
I've been carrying a Sig P238 in an alien gear pocket holster. Also got the MagGuts springs in my mags so I have 8+1 capacity. Really love how well it fires. I've put about 500 rounds of various ammo types through it and I get pretty tight groups. Expensive gun though. I still find myself tempted to pickup a Ruger LCP Max everytime I am in the gun store.
Love the Ruger LCP Max. Best bang for the buck 380 gun out there. 😁
The max is the bomb.....just picked one up. At 7 yards all 10 in fist sized ,hugged out whole. Very acetate, front Nighy site,slight wingless at back of slide to ease cooking. Iys loud ,it's proud and it will kill. We agree on this bad boy. From a glock fan boy.
I have 2 KelTec P3ATs with over 500 rounds each shooting Underwood +P copper solids and have only had a failure when I got the second one used and it was filthy. After cleaning it runs beautifully. It's not my #1 carry gun, but I live where it is very hot and carry the KelTec when I go running or have shorts on and never notice it running because it's so lightweight. I would never carry my larger carry gun when running otherwise. Extended mag plus laser on both Keltecs.
I got the LCP max when it first came out, probably because you recommended it. It started rusting soon after. Lots of cleaning and oiling kept it at bay. But the thing that made me switch it was I hated shooting it. It pinched my hand and had recoil like my 44 mag. I sold it and bought a kimber micro 380 and haven’t looked back. I gave up 3 rounds but have a gun I love to shoot and isn’t rusting. Some say it’s not reliable but I’ve not had a malfunction and carry it every day.
Ruger will replace the slide, barrel and recoil assembly of LCP's that rust. I followed recommendations of others owner and put Hogue LCPII grip sleeve on it to prevent it from hurting my hand and I trimmed off the sharp edges on the trigger and trigger safety which eliminate most of the pinching that was hurting my trigger finger. Ruger need to fix their black oxide finish processing to eliminate rust issue.
my micro 380 is great (but TFB hates anything 1911 or 1911ish so I'm not surprised it didn't make his list).
I've shot really dirty ammo and gunked mine up like crazy, and yet it has never had any sort of malfunction at all. It shoots super soft, is light, and for a less than 3 inch barrel, it's reasonably accurate.
Too bad TFB hates 1911s more than 1911 fanboys love their 1911s haha
@@tyvandm hahaha you are right, it’s too 1911’ish to show up. Well said!
I have the #1 and #3 on your list, so pretty much agree. Of course, since both the LCP Max and my S&W J-frame are small, I can take one in each pocket and not have to choose.
Another great video from TFB. The LCP Max is my latest addition and I LOVE the gun for pocket carry in just about any situation. Now Ruger needs to level up and make an LCP Max in .32acp. THAT would be interesting. I also rock a S & W 442 snubby for winter pocket carry when i know that my jacket or flannel will cover the extra bulkiness. Anyone ever try Underwood 158 grain plus P hard cast outta one of those things? Yeah...
I'd guess if they do it. They'll go 30 SC over 32acp.
@@matthewbeaver5026 The 30 SC is a cool little round, but I'd personally like to see the 32 version. The shorter overall length of that cartridge might lend itself better to a smaller form factor and thus better pocket carry. I hope Ruger comes out with both lol
Yes. The ONLY way I'm ever buying an LCP is if it's a 32acp.
Do yourself a favor and get a Galco horsehide pocket holster for the 442.I think you will like it.
@@williamryan9195 thanks William; I’m gonna have to check it out
#1 Colt Vest Pocket Hammerless .25 acp. The grip is only long enough for 1 finger to grip it.
Ruger LCP2 for summer carry. Taurus G2C for winter. Stainless steel rods, polished feed ramps, defense rounds. One in the chamber. Safety on G2C. Thanks for good show on pockets.
Used to carry my Sig P938, then replaced by a LCPII (now a max). Definitely pushing it for practicality, but more than doable.
As a pocket pistol I have a Sig 938 when needed.
I really have two of the same pocket guns a Sig P938 in 9mm and a Sig P238 in .380 . Though I will say the P238 is easier to shoot accurately since it's not as snappy. But both have exceptional single action triggers and with thumb safety's, sticking one in your pocket isn't a concern either.
Do you carry one in each of your pockets?
I carry the P938 ands it’s probably my favorite handgun I own. Not sure why it’s always forgotten on videos like this.
It is possible to use a pocket carry holster also. I do always, because it covers the trigger up in pocket and doesn't affect in my finding the pull, if not improving it. One last thing is that it also helps to avoid printing since it's a smoother surface and looks more like a wallet. ;) I think the LCP max will be my next, because I love my LCP original, especially in workout shorts.
I use a CYA IWB holster for my Ruger LCP. Very comfortable, you almost forget it's there.
Go for the Ruger max I like mine
I carry a P365X 9mm in a Alabama pocket holster. Would never carry it without the holster.
Thank y’all so very much for the coolest and most kick ass grand opening I’ve ever been to!! The New Glarus beer guy here. I thoroughly enjoyed every bit of it. I look forward to enjoying the range more in the future and I promise to keep the New Glarus brews flowing as often as I can get up to see my folks up in Cheeseland.
I'm a pharmacist and pocket carry is the only realistic way for me to carry at work. Love my p365 .380, but I never jived with it in the pocket. Picked up an LCP Max and it's been terrific for pocket carry.
Good list.
I used to carry a Keltec P32 as a backup gun (LEO) before the P380 came out. I then carried a S&W 380 Bodyguard for the last few years until retiring.
Today, my go-to pocket gun is the Sig P365-380.
G42 with Hyve plus 2 gives you 9 rounds in a much more accurate package with super minimal recoil hence the accuracy gains. Shoots like a dream and maintains it’s minimal size / weight benefit very well.
That's what I carry with liberty civil defense. I slapped a tlr6 and some trijicons on it and it's a perfect carry gun. No problem with size during the summer and if you travel through a state with mag restrictions you don't have to change your carry gun
I really love the g42
Throw those Blocks in the trash where they belong, and get a real pocket carry, Sig P238. Your Welcome.
So i know the topic is pocket carry, but Rugers new Security .380 is definitely something to talk about. Probably a little to big to be tossed in the average pocket but still a very viable little CC .380.
Carry the gun you want to have in a gunfight. Words to LIVE by.
I’m relatively new to the gun world and not very much into carriers, but that 340 PD looks mighty fine.
Was watching and was like, damn, James, you better have the LCP Max, and you did. 100% agree. I do think the Sig P238 and P938 are viable as well, especially the P938 because it’s 9mm.
P238 is such a great shooter. I agree that it should be on the list. IMO better than the LCP max.
Really no reason to have a 9mm that small. Not gonna get impressive ballistics, so probably better to just carry something that lands follow up shots.
When someone says the Glock has the best trigger in the bunch you know you're in for a shooting treat
It's a shame the Beretta Pico was discontinued. It was such an underrated gun. It was light, slim, and most importantly, it was a true DAO with restrike. I like my carry guns dead simple with heavy DAO triggers because I've experienced the loss of control that adrenaline brings.
My pocket .380 is the updated version of the Pico. It is a high quality pistol.
I agree. It's my pocket carry. Very soft shooting for such a tiny gun. Very reliable and high quality.
They're great handguns, but god are they ugly as sin lol
The Beretta Pico is ounce for ounce one of the best firearms made. Stainless steel through out the gun, modular design, best sights in class, so frigging to work on, change out parts, so thin and easy to carry. Magazines all stainless steel including the follower, look like custom 1911 mags. And one of the few small 380's to actually be rated as Plus P or HOT ammo which it shoots better than many guns that shoot standard ammo. Built like a tank. It will keep on going when other gun in the same size bite the dust. Just run and run and run. What James fails to understand is that Pocket guns are a art in self defense. He should take a class. Someone skilled with one can do wonders with them that you do not see on the internet.
The launch of that thing was a disaster, and it aesthetically turned off 95% of the people I’d show it to. I just hated the feel and ergos compared to some of its competitors.
For those used to revolvers then a S&W Bodyguard 380 might be for you.
It's a true DAO with double strike capability. It has a heavy trigger like a revolver.
One thing to think about is ankle carry.
Do you want a pistol for ankle carry and pocket carry?
That changes things.
If so 16oz or less for you.
What options are there for both pocket/Ankle carry?
- Kahr P380/CW380
- Ruger LCP/ LCP Custom 380
- Ruger LCP II .22lr
- Ruger LCP II .380
- Ruger LCP Max .380
- Charter Arms Off Duty/Undercover ( DAO) .38 spcl
- NAA Guardian .32 acp ( cutting close on weight)
- Keltec P-32 .32
- Keltec P3AT 380
- S&W Bodyguard 380
- Any S&W J Frame DAO .38 spcl
- Ruger LCR .22lr/.22,wmr/ .38 spcl
- Taurus TCP 380
- Taurus Spectrum 380
- Beretta Pico 380
- Beretta Tomcat 3032 .32
-Beretta 950 Jetfire .25acp
- Baby Browning .25
- Sig P238 380
Note: I excluded the
-Seecamp LWS .32 ( finicky with ammo)
- G42 ( bit long for the ankle and thicker)
- NAA Guardian 380( too heavy)
The major measurements are thickness, length and height.
I carry my LCP Max every day in my Sticky Holster. Sometimes I almost forget I'm carrying it. Loaded with 13 rounds of Hornaday Critical Defense ammo, it is my backup to my Sig P365 in my appendix holster.
I carry a Keltec p32 with +p /hardcast ammo 80% of the time. A mere 8 oz. weight. Little recoil. Never had a problem for 30 years of shooting these. I own 3. In the mountains (5%) of the time I carry a Glock 10mm. Rest of the time (15%) Sig 935 9mm. All great guns for different clothes and occasions. And I don't give a damn about other opinions. Works for me. I have shot pistols on a team, hunting and casually for 62 years. Elmer Keith taught me many many years ago. P.S.The 380 Keltec is also a good concealed carry gun like this dude says, but much heavier than my p32s.