Ive had aluminum Spidertrax 1.5 spacers on my rear axle for 6yrs or more. Properly installed with locktite and torqued. I check them any time I have the wheel off. Never had a single loose lug nut. The trick is you MUST check them a few times within the first few hundred miles. They will need a retorque as the lugs seat into the tapered bore. Once they get seated and are re-tightened. They will not give you any issues. Basically just like seating a new steel rim. If you dont retorque they will come loose.
Safety First! Pretty crazy you did a pre trip on your rig and noticed an issue and continued on your adventure! Life is precious my friend be careful out there.
😂 yeah.. well.. I was still hours from home. I was going to pay to have it towed all the way back home. The first time I checked, when I noticed it was loose, it didn’t seem too bad. Definitely loose but not “holy shit” loose. But when we stopped to check it again, I noticed it had gotten much worse in a very short period. Then I wasn’t going to drive it..
Stainless steel wheel adapters are the only safe option for a spacer on a truck. They do make them. Ditch the aluminums. Glad you made it back in one piece. Daryle had a wheel bearing almost come off on the last trip. Crazy stuff.
I installed the Z-1 1 inch spacers on my 2023 PRO4X, and no issues. Z-1 says 88 ft lbs for the nuts to the spacers, and 98 ft lbs for the nuts to the wheels. The transmission issue, may have to do with the gearing. You are running much larger tires and the ECM is programmed for the OEM tire size, this could affect the trans shifting. Larger tires is not always correct when off roading, consider dropping a tire size and going a little narrower. Just my opinion.
New to the scene and all the things 4wheel... How bad are those fenders going to tickle your eyeballs, and if said tickle is bad enough... Would you replace them? @@4wdAdventurz
Haha had the same thing happen to my rear fenders on a trail, middle of nowhere with nothing but ratchet straps ended up strapping everything and pulling it back to get home. Guess that’s what you gotta live with when you wheel with aggressive tires
On your snorkel, there shouldn't be that much of a gap. I imagine that when you went through the brush a while back, you pulled it away from the fender. I would be that if you pull it off, the fender holes for the studs will be pulled out. Still solid because the bolts are just as tight as normal, but your mounting surfaces have now been stretched away from the truck. Hammer and dolly would get them back in position easy enough. This is actually pretty common with a snorkel when going through tight areas. Good thing you caught the spacers coming loose, that would have been a very bad day. Do check those studs because of the movement they endured with the spacers. Don't want them being fatigued and failing now that you have the spacer removed.
That’s scary stuff my dad and friends checked there spacers before they left off road cause of there reputation. Crow is that west side area you been going
No loc tite? When I installed my spidertrax spacers it had me put loc tite on it. It also has to be torqued to 130 ft lbs. Between the two, I’ve never had an issue. Regardless, I don’t like the extra failure point, so getting new rims this month with a more aggressive offset rather than spacers.
Right mine are Z1 6x114.3 to 6x139.7 adapter spacers hub centric plus I put another hub centric rings to make sure the wheels fit good and flush. I have to torque mine to 99lbs plus I use permatex orange threadlocker but can stil be broken loose with tools. So far they have held up over a year now.
@@4wdAdventurz $20 torch from Home Depot fixed that issue for me. Ask me how I know. 😂 I’ll be taking mine off here in the next couple weeks. Basically, whenever the weather is nice after they arrive. An impact helps a lot, too.
Titan and Frontier both use the same M226 differential The axle housing on the titan is wider overall so you will need to cut off and relocate the spring perches to match the Frontiers leaf locations. You'll also need to swap the hubs to the Frontier spec 6x114.3 or swap the front hubs to the Titan spec 6x139 hubs....swapping hubs to the titan spec will require new wheels in a 6x139 pattern
Appears that the wheel spacer was not properly torqued and/or no locktite used. I have no experience with them, only what I have read and watched on video, but all who use them say proper installation is critical.
I was going to say lazy install was the issue . I've ran spacers on almost every vehicle I've owned over the last 18 years of driving... I have never had an issue . I currently have 2.5 inch spacers on my off-road rig and they have been on for 2 years and 20,000km
I had the same issue with trans. Get an update at the Nissan dealer. It’s free. Hasn’t happened to me since. That “clunk” down shift when slowing down to a stop, yeah?
It’s possible. I did the installation myself. But I definitely tighten them down just as much as I do the wheels themselves. Never had a problem with the wheels coming off 🤷🏼♂️
Spacers are more for looks anyway. Glad nothing happened bubba. Question. Since you do some serious off roading, what can you do to the Frontier to improve its capabilities?
I got z1 spacers and beat the living hell out of them at hurricane Creek in NC where i live and im in Dayton Ohio right now it was a 7 hr drive i was doing 85 almost the whole way they worked great. I know z1 are hub centric so maybe those you got are not but i went the extra mile and dabbed red loctite on mine. I saw ado did a tswap video and put red loctite on mikes spacers so i figured why not i definitely dont want any issues like you had. 1.5 in spacers if they are a good brand like spider trax or z1 wouldn't be a issue as long as they are torqued to spec and have loctite but i see people doing 3 in and wouldn't necessarily recommend ones that big but i would not use spacers on ifs. Only the rear to match the tswap width up front.
You always want to loctite wheel spacers. Spidertrax even includes it with their spacers. Loctite and correct torque specs and you'll never have an issue with them.
I havent even got thru the video and i knew it was the wheel spacers...idc what brand you buy or how long so and so ran them they are dangerous to you & everyone else on the road
@@4wdAdventurzI had them on a s550 mustang bro and they went on one 15min drive and got canned... no fn way would I put them on the truck...and these dudes put them on half ton chevys and diesels bro no fn way...on my mustang I only went like 60mph on them and they felt funky.. sold them and immediatly bought wheels w backspace but ik your dilemma im just saying what I did after using them once. .the car felt real strange on them
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Buy the extended Z1 hood struts. Worth it
Ive had aluminum Spidertrax 1.5 spacers on my rear axle for 6yrs or more. Properly installed with locktite and torqued. I check them any time I have the wheel off. Never had a single loose lug nut. The trick is you MUST check them a few times within the first few hundred miles. They will need a retorque as the lugs seat into the tapered bore. Once they get seated and are re-tightened. They will not give you any issues. Basically just like seating a new steel rim. If you dont retorque they will come loose.
Safety First! Pretty crazy you did a pre trip on your rig and noticed an issue and continued on your adventure! Life is precious my friend be careful out there.
I can't believe you felt a wheel loose, and you continued to drive on it?
And 80 mph???
😂 yeah.. well.. I was still hours from home. I was going to pay to have it towed all the way back home. The first time I checked, when I noticed it was loose, it didn’t seem too bad. Definitely loose but not “holy shit” loose. But when we stopped to check it again, I noticed it had gotten much worse in a very short period. Then I wasn’t going to drive it..
Howdy from Jax. I like that Frontier! Too bad we don't see more on the trails!
They're underrated for sure! Thanks for watching buddy!
Stainless steel wheel adapters are the only safe option for a spacer on a truck. They do make them. Ditch the aluminums. Glad you made it back in one piece. Daryle had a wheel bearing almost come off on the last trip. Crazy stuff.
I installed the Z-1 1 inch spacers on my 2023 PRO4X, and no issues. Z-1 says 88 ft lbs for the nuts to the spacers, and 98 ft lbs for the nuts to the wheels. The transmission issue, may have to do with the gearing. You are running much larger tires and the ECM is programmed for the OEM tire size, this could affect the trans shifting. Larger tires is not always correct when off roading, consider dropping a tire size and going a little narrower. Just my opinion.
That's one reason I will never use spacers! Looks good but not worth it.
I kept frontier width on the rear for this reason.
Stronger, less stress, less moving parts, and less bed sides getting ripped out
The bed sides is really due to me not lifting the rear enough and not removing those mud flaps. The rear probably sits 1-2” lower than the front..
New to the scene and all the things 4wheel... How bad are those fenders going to tickle your eyeballs, and if said tickle is bad enough... Would you replace them? @@4wdAdventurz
Haha had the same thing happen to my rear fenders on a trail, middle of nowhere with nothing but ratchet straps ended up strapping everything and pulling it back to get home. Guess that’s what you gotta live with when you wheel with aggressive tires
On your snorkel, there shouldn't be that much of a gap. I imagine that when you went through the brush a while back, you pulled it away from the fender. I would be that if you pull it off, the fender holes for the studs will be pulled out. Still solid because the bolts are just as tight as normal, but your mounting surfaces have now been stretched away from the truck. Hammer and dolly would get them back in position easy enough. This is actually pretty common with a snorkel when going through tight areas. Good thing you caught the spacers coming loose, that would have been a very bad day. Do check those studs because of the movement they endured with the spacers. Don't want them being fatigued and failing now that you have the spacer removed.
Thanks! I’ll check that out
I never run spacers cause of stories like this
That’s scary stuff my dad and friends checked there spacers before they left off road cause of there reputation. Crow is that west side area you been going
No loc tite? When I installed my spidertrax spacers it had me put loc tite on it. It also has to be torqued to 130 ft lbs. Between the two, I’ve never had an issue. Regardless, I don’t like the extra failure point, so getting new rims this month with a more aggressive offset rather than spacers.
Right mine are Z1 6x114.3 to 6x139.7 adapter spacers hub centric plus I put another hub centric rings to make sure the wheels fit good and flush. I have to torque mine to 99lbs plus I use permatex orange threadlocker but can stil be broken loose with tools. So far they have held up over a year now.
Wait till yall spin a socket on those shallow lug nuts w loctite and 130ft lbs
I was honestly reluctant to put Loctite on them because I knew I wasn’t gonna have them on here forever and didn’t want to not be able to get them off
@@4wdAdventurz $20 torch from Home Depot fixed that issue for me. Ask me how I know. 😂 I’ll be taking mine off here in the next couple weeks. Basically, whenever the weather is nice after they arrive. An impact helps a lot, too.
No big deal just get the titan rear diff to match.
Titan and Frontier both use the same M226 differential
The axle housing on the titan is wider overall so you will need to cut off and relocate the spring perches to match the Frontiers leaf locations. You'll also need to swap the hubs to the Frontier spec 6x114.3 or swap the front hubs to the Titan spec 6x139 hubs....swapping hubs to the titan spec will require new wheels in a 6x139 pattern
Appears that the wheel spacer was not properly torqued and/or no locktite used. I have no experience with them, only what I have read and watched on video, but all who use them say proper installation is critical.
I was going to say lazy install was the issue . I've ran spacers on almost every vehicle I've owned over the last 18 years of driving... I have never had an issue . I currently have 2.5 inch spacers on my off-road rig and they have been on for 2 years and 20,000km
you should take a cruise out to springfield MO for the MOORE expo. there is a trail park near it also
I have a frontier 2023 prox 2wd and I also get that jerk when I slow down on a red light
Idk what it is.. tranny otherwise never acts funny or runs hot..🤷🏼♂️. It so weird..
@ I was thinking maybe it’s the AEB sensor
I had the same issue with trans. Get an update at the Nissan dealer. It’s free. Hasn’t happened to me since. That “clunk” down shift when slowing down to a stop, yeah?
Yup. That's it.
THAT'S WHY TOYOTA KEEPS PUTTING THE OLD ROD TO HOLD THE HOOD OF THE TACOMA WHEN OPEN
Oh yes! If I had, the option, definitely would’ve gone that route. The old rod never fails. 😂
Yes, that's why and nothing to do with cost cutting.
I run spacers on my race truck with no problem. This is all on who ever installed them, they obviously where not torqued correctly.
It’s possible. I did the installation myself. But I definitely tighten them down just as much as I do the wheels themselves. Never had a problem with the wheels coming off 🤷🏼♂️
In California they are called rump ranger's. 😢🙄
😂😂 are you serious?
@@4wdAdventurz Yes sir! Dont ever drop the soap. 😢
@ 😂😂😂😂
Spacers are more for looks anyway. Glad nothing happened bubba. Question. Since you do some serious off roading, what can you do to the Frontier to improve its capabilities?
Lockers (obviously), regear..🤔 37’s maybe… thats probably it unless you go SAS
Spacers are more for looks anyway. Glad nothing happened bubba.
Glad you made it back safely. Do we need to start a go fund me for a winch fairlead? You're putting that off for way too long man.
😂😂😂😂😂. You might have to. Or you could just order a couple shirts or hoodies or anything else from the website. Link in the description.😁
@ Fair enough brother! Just giving you a hard time. 👊
Glad the wheel did not come off I live off I75 in GA
Same dude! Would’ve been a shitshow for sure
Will definitely need a BL
BL?
@ body lift
It’s probably time to do your transmission fluid change
I did it already. Almost 10k miles ago
@ maybe sticky throttle body clean the maf
I got z1 spacers and beat the living hell out of them at hurricane Creek in NC where i live and im in Dayton Ohio right now it was a 7 hr drive i was doing 85 almost the whole way they worked great. I know z1 are hub centric so maybe those you got are not but i went the extra mile and dabbed red loctite on mine. I saw ado did a tswap video and put red loctite on mikes spacers so i figured why not i definitely dont want any issues like you had. 1.5 in spacers if they are a good brand like spider trax or z1 wouldn't be a issue as long as they are torqued to spec and have loctite but i see people doing 3 in and wouldn't necessarily recommend ones that big but i would not use spacers on ifs. Only the rear to match the tswap width up front.
If I end up putting them back on. Z1 will be the one I go with. Good to know you had no issues.
You always want to loctite wheel spacers. Spidertrax even includes it with their spacers. Loctite and correct torque specs and you'll never have an issue with them.
minimal issues all mod related .
Yup. The truck it self performed flawlessly.
Gawd dayyummm
lol for real
I havent even got thru the video and i knew it was the wheel spacers...idc what brand you buy or how long so and so ran them they are dangerous to you & everyone else on the road
Yeah. They definitely can go south real quick..
@@4wdAdventurzI had them on a s550 mustang bro and they went on one 15min drive and got canned... no fn way would I put them on the truck...and these dudes put them on half ton chevys and diesels bro no fn way...on my mustang I only went like 60mph on them and they felt funky.. sold them and immediatly bought wheels w backspace but ik your dilemma im just saying what I did after using them once. .the car felt real strange on them
you have to retorque them every year
They were only on a month lol.
Now I know Spacers r no go 😮😮😮
What's the bad news I don't have time to wait, Tell Me Now .
😂😂 bad news is you’ll have to wait.
I'm calling click bate but a fan of the channel and dont need to be tricked into watching.
Haha. If you watched the video till the end, you’d see it’s not click bait.
Click bait!
How is this Clickbait?
@ because you never actually ‘almost died’! Sketchy moment, sure but almost died, is a stretch.
Otherwise click bait.