PANEL: WHAT IS THE WEST? | Jordan Peterson, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, John Anderson, Os Guinness

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @arc_conference
    @arc_conference  Год назад +78

    If you want to go deeper into the ideas in this video, check out our ARC Research Papers. Os Guinness wrote a paper entitled "Our Civilisational Moment" and it's well worth read. www.arc-research.org/research-papers/our-civilisational-moment

    • @jaymannewell
      @jaymannewell Год назад +3

      Thank you.

    • @zgobermn6895
      @zgobermn6895 Год назад +1

      Will download this. Os is a man for the times!

    • @normanberg9940
      @normanberg9940 Год назад +2

      Evil looks like terrorists attacking and killing innocent civilians BUT evil also looks like a terrorist state out for blood and revenge, bombing innocent civilians that it forced into a concentration camp. So why does your description of evil only work one way Ayan?

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 10 месяцев назад

      True. I am going to add, that John is saying he approves of a people that has been in the land for 50,000 years, and after 400 years of inhabiting with them, still said no.
      What would God say? Would he point to them, and ask "what have you done with them?"
      How will you answer, after you were told to treat others as you would be treated, which the Aborigines are part of the call. How are you going to answer?
      You wonder why NZ always is adamant on saying no to joining with Australia.@@normanberg9940

    • @blarvinius
      @blarvinius 8 месяцев назад

      Please, I am an ARC supporter, please let others besides JP lead some discussions! I like JP, but he lacks humility and is in love with himself. It is good to have him lead SOME discussions.

  • @jaymannewell
    @jaymannewell Год назад +734

    As viewers i would suggest we all have a responsibility to SHARE this channel and its content to all our other social media platforms as far and wide as we can.

    • @MsElke11
      @MsElke11 Год назад +16

      for sure!!

    • @askhollyhall
      @askhollyhall Год назад +19

      Done! Even though close people will become more distant 😢

    • @VioletACordy
      @VioletACordy Год назад +6

      🔆🌈🌲🦚🌳Yes, I share your sentiments😊🦋🦋

    • @kochkathryn88
      @kochkathryn88 Год назад +6

      Definitely . I already shared a shorter video with Facebook. Definitely plan on sharing more.

    • @chadjohns6955
      @chadjohns6955 Год назад +10

      absolutely! I cannot believe I'm just finding it today, I've been waiting for this

  • @seekerout
    @seekerout Год назад +549

    I've really missed Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She dropped off my radar when she stepped back from public life to concentrate on motherhood, and I'm delighted to see her back in the saddle sharing her insights and wisdom. I can't say there's anyone I admire more than Ayaan. She's heroic, wise, intelligent and compassionate.

    • @dreinhard52
      @dreinhard52 Год назад +39

      Totally agree ,Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an inspiration. I love her clarity .

    • @banta-pd8zj
      @banta-pd8zj Год назад

      She has been chosen only because of her anti Muslim credentials.
      I'm sorry she chose this panel to present her message.

    • @SARWSiddiqui
      @SARWSiddiqui Год назад

      She's a bigot.

    • @robertrobbins9194
      @robertrobbins9194 Год назад +7

      I don't know how to help make a change too take us back to a Christian nation. The system rejects faith and doesn't want me/us to change there agenda. Help us the people that want to help change our nation to its root beliefs. Sign me up!

    • @robertrobbins9194
      @robertrobbins9194 Год назад +3

      Ps you guys are great in the way of explaining the truth of the matters. I'm happy you exist but we the faithful would love to prayerfully pitch in. Just need direction.

  • @fromthewrath2come
    @fromthewrath2come Год назад +55

    Aayan, you have articulated the difference between the God of Israel, and the god of Islam: the God of life and the god of death. You have made the change from death to life and you are a beautiful testimony.

  • @elijah4928
    @elijah4928 Год назад +342

    Thank heavens for Dr J Peterson. We're finally coalescing our voices to fight against the madness of the woke...Well done team.

    • @jayjaychadoy9226
      @jayjaychadoy9226 Год назад +1

      …but even more.

    • @Drowe71
      @Drowe71 Год назад

      Do you even know what woke means?
      ruclips.net/video/-P8H5Z8VAMU/видео.html

    • @AlexNorton-m5o
      @AlexNorton-m5o Год назад

      yeah, but what are you mob actually saying?

    • @fisho2620
      @fisho2620 Год назад

      more than you because at least we've got real names@@AlexNorton-m5o

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 11 месяцев назад +1

      Replacing the madness of woke with another madness isn’t any solution. Preaching from the high altar of privilege with its own prejudices is another madness. Coalescing voices is playing to their prejudices. Society needs to move towards a harmony of conflicting views to find agreement on which everyone can subscribe and commit for reasonable change. This isn’t that harmony. From the outset endorsing Israel is creating conflict with Palestine omitting the long historical context of this dispute. That’s inexcusable.

  • @allen_tor
    @allen_tor Год назад +56

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali may you live forever. May your children be as many as the children of Abraham. May God bless you and keep you, may He shine His face upon you and be gracious to you, may He lift up His face upon you and give you peace. In the name of the prince of peace I pray, AMEN.

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад +5

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

    • @4421gdhkgg
      @4421gdhkgg 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@annakimborahpathank you for that information 🙏🏾 😊

    • @4421gdhkgg
      @4421gdhkgg 5 месяцев назад

      So true.Amen

  • @solaveritas2
    @solaveritas2 Год назад +182

    Thank you for this discussion! Makes me hopeful among all the depressing news.

  • @mohammadazizkhani6362
    @mohammadazizkhani6362 Год назад +280

    What a ride! As a member of the Iranian diaspora and a citizen of Finland, I totally relate with Ayaan in the way she described her decision to adopt Western civilization and the values it stands for. Realism and the freedom to be responsible for what is meaningful for the individual while closing the cycle by contributing to society to preserve these values for the present and future. This is an intellectually intense and joyful session I get back to often from today! Thank you Ayaan, Jordan, Os, and John for this gift! Thanks ARC!

    • @angusmacangus3181
      @angusmacangus3181 Год назад +44

      As an immigrant from Africa I totally get it too, although Western liberals always accuse me of being a traitor to my culture. I turn right back and tell them why are you betraying your culture then?

    • @RedPillDiaries
      @RedPillDiaries Год назад

      As born and bred Westerner; Zionism and WASP Anglo-American colonial-terror, parasitism and plunder is NOT Western Civilization, it is our equivalent to your Jihadist nutters.

    • @peacedreamerable
      @peacedreamerable Год назад +8

      Nothing is right about the horrrific treatment of Palestein people , there should be sanctions against Israel , too many bay for blood , those people are in an open prison that treats its prisoners disgracefully , for decades. God does not condone tourture , starvation and imprisoment , total bull. Her voice shakes as she knows she is in the wrong .

    • @kimobrien.
      @kimobrien. Год назад

      @@peacedreamerable Hamas is a NAZI like organization that came ti power by crushing its political opponents with political violence. It's roots are with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who sided with Hitler and organized a Muslim Croate fascist Militia. If Gaza is an open air prison than Hamas are the prison guards. Only the workers of all the nations of the middle east can bring peace though socialist revolution. Israel must be a refuge for the Jews.

    • @MD-fh6kj
      @MD-fh6kj Год назад

      The prison was created by their own people. They had a state . Do you know in the 70’s , their was no military presence in West Bank. Do you know why Thierry is military presence there now, to keep the peace and stop the attacks being orchestrated by radical beliefs from the leadership. Hamas and Iran the sponsor is killing Palestinians and they are being used for a greater evil where no Palestinians are left because anyone with common sense and some money would leave the nonsense and injustice by Hamas , PLO and Iran.

  • @grahamtrezise1114
    @grahamtrezise1114 Год назад +124

    So good to see John Anderson on the stage, what a great concept to bring to reality, thanks to all....

    • @banta-pd8zj
      @banta-pd8zj Год назад

      A man trying to reinvent himself as a public intellectual.
      He's trite, superficial and pleases only the simple minded.

    • @brontepetropoulos4755
      @brontepetropoulos4755 Год назад +3

      Yes great to hear John speak so glad we have him there with the rest of these incredible people

    • @elizabethblackwell6242
      @elizabethblackwell6242 Год назад +2

      Where was he during COVID. Siding with the incompetence of Morrison, that's where. Shameful moral cowardice.

    • @Daewonnni
      @Daewonnni 11 месяцев назад

      I really enjoyed Anderson but his use of the no vote for indigenous peoples in Australia cheapens his rhetoric. Whatever side of that vote you are on “realism” doesn’t lack empathy.

  • @ChristopherRyans
    @ChristopherRyans Год назад +208

    What an amazing Group of people to discuss our future . May god bless this endeavor

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 Год назад

      What a nice group of zionists. La la la....

    • @janineking1433
      @janineking1433 Год назад

      I concur,what amazing people with superior arguments to support what they believe.

    • @wernerstapela4616
      @wernerstapela4616 Год назад

      @ChristopherRyans you realize that not all in the panel believe in God, right?

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 Год назад

      @@wernerstapela4616 But they all believe in sciontism. That's a prerequisite to be on this stage....

    • @ianbain1269
      @ianbain1269 Год назад

      @@gmw3083 So what can you bring to the table apart from insults? What is your highest ideal?

  • @geraldflecknell1950
    @geraldflecknell1950 Год назад +29

    I have enjoyed this Panel discussion, very much. Plant the Seeds with Others. Pass them on !!

  • @keiththomas1416
    @keiththomas1416 Год назад +20

    The one voice, the man who should be hear, who set out the 'Conflict of Visions' so clearly, is Dr Thomas Sowell. He saw so clearly 40 years ago where the current path will take us. Before he passes, it would be amazing if Dr Peterson and Mr Anderson would interview him.

    • @ross2812
      @ross2812 Год назад +5

      @keiththomas1416....There needs to be a world day of recognition for Dr Thomas Sowell while he is still with us .

  • @ClaritySinger
    @ClaritySinger Год назад +54

    Excellent discussion! Especially appreciate Ayaan's insights and experience with which I concur as a woman who was not born into Western culture.

  • @INUIT1234
    @INUIT1234 5 месяцев назад +2

    Aayan Hirsi Ali:
    A beacon of light and a ray of hope! 👏🫶

  • @Anakynblade88
    @Anakynblade88 Год назад +51

    Any conversation that Jordan has it is 100% worth listening to.

  • @Uspewtube
    @Uspewtube Год назад +66

    I love these 4 people. JP leads the conversation expertly. Ayaan is always so insightful, certainly for me as a white Australian. John Anderson is a great Australian role model and example. Os I am not familiar with, but I found him to be the most potent and thought provoking, great to be exposed to him I'm hoping my rural bookshop has some if his work 🤞

    • @fabiolahook8877
      @fabiolahook8877 Год назад +1

      Guiness' 1973 "Dust of Death" is tremendous and highly-recommended.

    • @elizabethblackwell6242
      @elizabethblackwell6242 Год назад

      Where was John Anderson during COVID? Siding with the incompetence of Morrison, that's where. Shameful moral cowardice.

    • @zgobermn6895
      @zgobermn6895 Год назад

      Os Guinness' recent 'Signals of Transcendence'.

  • @carolspencer6915
    @carolspencer6915 Год назад +25

    Great to see ARC in action.
    Super grateful.
    Thankyou all.
    💜

  • @dreinhard52
    @dreinhard52 Год назад +91

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a beacon of hope, always has been. This woman can understand what is moral.

    • @johnsmith7345
      @johnsmith7345 Год назад +1

      This was my introduction to Ayaan and I hope too find a path to reading her.

    • @dreinhard52
      @dreinhard52 Год назад +1

      @@johnsmith7345 Her story is inspiring .

    • @Lerian_V
      @Lerian_V Год назад +1

      ​@johnsmith7345 I knew her from a debate she was in with Jonathan Heidt some years ago.

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

    • @whatup6350
      @whatup6350 11 месяцев назад

      @@johnsmith7345 She told Dutch TV she lied to get asylum. ruclips.net/video/QRy_fA_Qv-k/видео.html

  • @jimcaswell4488
    @jimcaswell4488 10 месяцев назад +2

    What a courageous woman! May she be blessed with a great life.

  • @Lanark83
    @Lanark83 Год назад +46

    Ayaan’s voice is a clarion call to the world.

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад +1

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

  • @Thesteadfast
    @Thesteadfast Год назад +77

    Loved Ayaan's comment at the end about her evolution to adhering to Judeo Christian values. Even Dawkins has made recent comments about the utility of Christianity. People are beginning to see that values of truth and equality are not the norm and they crumble without a foundation.

    • @frijolero6048
      @frijolero6048 Год назад +3

      Thankfully I live in Canada. We have freedom of religion and one religion does not guide society over others.

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад +2

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

    • @Thesteadfast
      @Thesteadfast Год назад

      @@annakimborahpa oh wow didnt know she made it official. Good for her.

    • @Provocative-K
      @Provocative-K Год назад

      ​@@frijolero6048you have freedom of religion in Canada because of Judeo-Christian ethics.

    • @frijolero6048
      @frijolero6048 Год назад

      @@Provocative-KNot true at all. Christianity tried to destroy indigenous culture in Canada, including indigenous spirituality. Christianity does not recognize or respect other religions. Why does every Church put on its sign 'come learn the TRIUTH', meaning everyone else's religion is a lie. Not very nice.

  • @JMc_1
    @JMc_1 Год назад +130

    Dr. Peterson is such a wonderful, brilliant, leader bringing other brilliant, inspiring, leaders together to bring hope through biblical guidance. ❤ God bless all of you for leading the way!

    • @banta-pd8zj
      @banta-pd8zj Год назад +2

      Do you not listen to the multitudinous critics who pick apart Peterson's frequent errors?

    • @rafed3672
      @rafed3672 Год назад

      “Woke Culture”, ESG are the instruments of capture power by the corporate and bureaucratic oligarchy. The movement of anti-globalists, "Occupy Wall Street" - where are they? Do you really think that a bunch of woke freaks can intimidate corporations and government?! Cultural wars are a distraction of attention from the main thing! The bait of attention is the main trick of crooks, magicians and manipulators.

    • @frijolero6048
      @frijolero6048 Год назад +3

      Canada is secular. The bible, or any other religion, should not be above others.

    • @awktsoloflyer
      @awktsoloflyer Год назад

      If he says God or transcendent enough times he'll fool enough Christians to keep his pockets permanently lined by the time they figure out that he is not and will not ever be a Christian. It's also highly likely they simply don't care and the grift is validating.

    • @janineking1433
      @janineking1433 Год назад +1

      I’m so glad,that all these amazing minds have got together & maybe soon these voices will blot out all the other”noises”that are morally wrong.

  • @joanh295
    @joanh295 Год назад +15

    In a dark world there are always pinpricks of light. Thank you all for putting your candle in the window 🥰

  • @allenbrady8083
    @allenbrady8083 Год назад +63

    Ayaan’s closer was absolutely brilliant.

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

  • @MsElke11
    @MsElke11 Год назад +120

    5:54 AYAAN says "Now we know what evil looks like...It's not only the JEWISH BABIES that they (HAMAS) are beheading, they will behead your babies, Jewish or not, if you don't fit into THEIR story!"

    • @independentorbiter3650
      @independentorbiter3650 Год назад +7

      👍💯💯💯💯💯

    • @shootingstar3371
      @shootingstar3371 Год назад

      Hamas is homo

    • @PeeGee85
      @PeeGee85 Год назад +18

      Her lack of distinctions really doesn't help. She's implicitly lumping Hamas and Muslims (including those living in Europe) together, as if people demonstrating for Palestine in the West are exactly the same as Hamas terrorists in Gaza. She starts the conversation by virtue signaling on behalf of Israel, relies on a victimhood narrative and is entirely one-sided in her views. Not sure she's really helping, to be honest, seems like she has a chip on her shoulder and a niche perspective on a subset of Muslims that shouldn't be applied wholesale. Either that, or she needs to start making some proper distinctions, rather than invoking negative emotions and implicitly associating them with everything Islamic/Muslim.
      I don't like toxic feminine strategies when used by the progressive left (guilt by association, victimhood narrative, poisoning the environment rather than attacking the target directly, etc), but not by my own side either.
      Other than that, she's a smart lady, so I just kind of expected more from her than partisanship, punditry and demagoguery.
      *Edit: I did like the bit about seed packets at the end :).

    • @hexagram531
      @hexagram531 Год назад

      @@PeeGee85 I think your comments are very important. It's a bad time, when emotions are running high, for anyone - even someone as brave and inspiring as Ali - to start by saying "I support Israel", as if by implication the opposite also applies - when people could interpret "the opposite" as meaning "I support Palestinians" rather than I support Hamas", who are a malevolent subset of Muslims. Or indeed as if Western demonstrators, even young and stupid ones failing to understand they are encouraging the evil of anti-semitism, are equivalent to terrorists by trying (inadequately) to point out that the Palestinians have a background and a story and an entitlement to human rights, and to have their viewpoint expressed, heard, and negotiated about. As John Anderson said in this, the line between good and evil runs through every human heart - which includes Jewish hearts and Muslim hearts. (I think incidentally that Ali does not understand Nietzsche, but I'm certainly not claiming that I do as most people don't understand Nietzsche. They could get a bit of a better idea about Nietzsche, if interested, by listening to Jordan Peterson when he mentions him in his lectures, and perhaps by reading John Richardson on Nietzsche. And from Brett Andersen, when he isn't in the tragically unfortunate situation of one of his mental breakdown phases, as his sane stuff is brilliant.)

    • @chandraadam3656
      @chandraadam3656 Год назад +13

      ​@PeeGee85 that's her experience. No one can take that away from her. I don't think she's lumping Muslims in with Hamas, but is discouraged by the support for evil terrorism from anyone. Some of my family identify with Palestine even though they are American born and march for the support for Hamas actions. They forget their Christian morals and values especially when our ancestors were beheaded by the same type of evil spirit. It's weird and sad.

  • @simonahrendt9069
    @simonahrendt9069 Год назад +170

    Personally, I have been depressed for years and seriously contemplated suicide multiple times in the last few months. Even though these videos obviously do not relate directly to my personal circumstances, I will say that I genuinely am filled with hope watching these discussions. I have been following Jordan for years and actually seeing this ARC form now, as a collaborative effort in a courageous and hopeful spirit, with all intellectual seriousness and in a manner that is aimed at getting actual people involved and connected, such that it could actually bear significant fruits in the future and have an impact on culture and politics, is getting me interested to see what the future will be like.
    Even though I do not think I will be able to contribute to this project in any meaningful way, with not being able to successfully bear responsibility even for myself at the moment, I will definitely be rooting for you and hope this movement helps significantly address the problems that beset us now as a community and (western) civilization writ large, and pave the way to a bright and yet undiscovered an thus interestingly new future for everybody. Thank you so much to everyone who participates.

    • @frozenpann
      @frozenpann Год назад +29

      I can identify with your disclosure of your personal issues. Thank you for taking the time to provide the insight. It helps to know that we are not alone with a struggling heart. I have battled depression for years and found out not long ago that the majority of it was based on poor nutrition. Started eating whole foods and extra supplements. No sugar or processed junk foods. I was deficient in many vitamins and minerals which caused inflammation throughout my body. I literally feel 20 years younger now after avoiding things that the government calls food. No medication was used. Yep... it was a difficult adjustment but completely worth it. Happy to be alive and healthy. Blessings and good wishes to you!

    • @simonahrendt9069
      @simonahrendt9069 Год назад +23

      @@frozenpann Thank you so much for writing this. I am happy to hear that you got better and your comments about food are very interesting to me. I think I also might benefit a lot from taking a closer look at my nutrition (which at the moment includes absurd amounts of sugar, which I long suspected to have a negative impact), so thanks a lot for the comment. Also blessings and all the good going forward or you!

    • @TheBalterok
      @TheBalterok Год назад +3

      Have you watched Jordan Peterson’s interviews on microdozing magic mushrooms? Do it.

    • @Imnotrivalslol
      @Imnotrivalslol Год назад +1

      ​​@@simonahrendt9069
      Simon,
      Your comments were moving, contributing and hopeful. DO NOT GIVE UP.
      The earlier comment about WHOLE foods will transform your life. Specifically for me, modified Carnivore with a few select vegetables and fruits. I am 60, started not at all over-weight, but with almost no effort except a shift in mindset, I lost 30 LBS in a little over a month and returned to my 'natural peak weight' (which I believe is whatever you weighed in late HS to early college) and have maintained it WITH NO EFFORT for 1 1/2 years. I had all my blood work done a few month ago and the Dr. told me I have the health of a 25 year old (and I feel physically and mentally 25).
      Sugar, Gluten/Starchy Vegetables/Bread and Vegetable Oils (which are in EVERY processed food) ARE POISON and the root cause of EVERY health epidemic facing modern society- Obesity, Cancer, Heart Disease Diabetes, Arthritis, Alzheimer's, Auto-Immune, etc. Goes without saying stopping consuming poison will benefit your life and will shift your mental well-being in the process.
      Suggested Contributors to watch: Dr. Ken Berry, Dr. Sten Eckberg, Dr. Berg, Tom Delauer, Paul Saladino.
      Thank you for sharing your intellect and struggle. Makes you a Bad-ass. And after reading the other comment about Whole foods and your response 'you'll look into' it', I just had to underscore and double down on his point for you!
      Trust me, it will TRANSFORM your life.
      Read the comments section while consuming videos. They are that of 'miracles' and complete transformation.
      And now you're next. I promise you.

    • @jasonbellis5836
      @jasonbellis5836 Год назад +2

      Yes hear you👐💫

  • @dreinhard52
    @dreinhard52 Год назад +51

    Listening to these people speak , restores my faith in humanity. These are the people that need to educate our young people. In fact all of us.

  • @williamwalker8107
    @williamwalker8107 Год назад +55

    This right here is a wonderful demonstration of the value of free speech. An expression of these Ideas in beautiful clarity. Thanks.

    • @bobbyd5167
      @bobbyd5167 Год назад

      Really? That’s what you took from this?

    • @williamwalker8107
      @williamwalker8107 Год назад +1

      @@bobbyd5167 Some of it, how about you?

    • @Don-ev9rb
      @Don-ev9rb Год назад

      I don't feel the free speech part, as two of my comments are removed from RUclips...!

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 11 месяцев назад

      Is free speech the desire to dismantle and ridicule Woke ideology replacing it with another dubious one, hubris, or having the common sense to see good in all alternatives, humility.

  • @stevencesarano3581
    @stevencesarano3581 Год назад +47

    Wow! How much do modern politician have to learn from the caliber and quality of their predecessors like John Anderson!! One can only hope that their mentorship and example impacts the new generation of politicians and leaders.

    • @drewrussell
      @drewrussell Год назад +1

      I would argue that this is making politicians are governments entirely redundant. This is demonstrating that we CAN govern ourselves. Why do we need government and tyrants to dictate to us when we are all responsible for and govern ourselves? Politicians and government have only ever created problems and conflict throughout history by destroying people’s ability to think for themselves and govern themselves. I think this new alliance has so much potential and one of the things it should do is help us all break down our programming that we need government and politicians at all.

    • @matildafaltyn6253
      @matildafaltyn6253 Год назад +1

      @drewrussell - Good point. Add to that that we as taxpayers have no say in where and how our taxes are spent. Governments have proven unaccountable and nothing but corrupt and exploitative.

    • @drewrussell
      @drewrussell Год назад +1

      @@matildafaltyn6253 Absolutely! No matter how much people try to justify it, taxation is theft - plain and simple! The idea that we aren't responsible enough to decide where to spend our own money and that, without tax, the world would fall apart is ridiculous. We're all adult humans, not children. If we collectively started taking more responsibility for ourselves instead of relying on "mum and dad" (the state), who knows how far we could spiritually evolve?

    • @wendylang2360
      @wendylang2360 Год назад +1

      @@drewrussell Hi Drew
      I have never paid much tax as a stay at home mum & wife most of my life, but I so appreciate many ways government does spend money. Every time I go anywhere it is on a government built & maintained road, when I gave birth to my babies, or when I had to take them to hospital in the middle of the night for some reason - it was to a public hospital, they got a good education at schools, as older members of the family needed support services & care, there were government funded/subsidised services. I can't imagine what our country would look like if all these services were left to individuals to arrange & put in place as each one felt like doing. I imagine most people are like me & have had the benefit of using government provided infrastructure & services (roads, rubbish tips, schools, hospitals, aged care facilities, police services, hospitals, sporting facilities, etc, etc) that far outweigh anything I could ever pay for as an individual.

  • @pleidieswilson6627
    @pleidieswilson6627 Год назад +22

    Yes so important to tell our children their history . Our story

  • @miareal1746
    @miareal1746 Год назад +28

    Thank you Ayaan for having the courage and sense of taking a stand for a distinction between right and wrong and or good and evil not like some that try to b.s intellectualise a simple truth!!!

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад +1

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 11 месяцев назад

      Right and wrong, good and evil, are constructs. Whoever defines them rules. They’re not simple truths. Philosophy needs a resurgence so this multiplicity of nonsense ideologies ends. That’s critical thinking and the ability to be cynical, skeptical, and question all. From that complex universal truths emerge.

  • @eimjabegg5943
    @eimjabegg5943 Год назад +85

    So uplifting to hear the ideas expressed and the positive and optimistic nature of ARC. As an Aussie, I absolutely loved John Anderson's input and could relate so easily.

  • @richardwillford2418
    @richardwillford2418 Год назад +65

    At last!
    Ayaan Hirsi Ali hits the nail on the head: They will come for us next. We've opened the gate and let a gigantic Trojan horse into our societies.

    • @rey_nemaattori
      @rey_nemaattori Год назад +7

      When she said this as a Dutch MP they laughed at her...decade or so later she's proven right...

    • @richardwillford2418
      @richardwillford2418 Год назад +3

      @@rey_nemaattori In Sweden (my home country) she's been labelled a fascist, nazi, racist... you name it. It's an absolute outrage!

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад +1

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

    • @Min-utiae
      @Min-utiae Год назад +1

      Fear. Fear fear itself because fear can lead the mind of any person to create a monster out of the “other”
      I am thankful that we in the west have allowed entry to everyone who seeks refuge from atrocity. This is love and trust in our Lord, even though we know that it opens us up to the possibility that someone harbouring evil purpose may also sneak in through the door that we have opened.
      In fear we tremble in awe before the great power of our Lord and ask that His will be done, not ours. We ask because we trust in the Lord. God is love. If we live love, we live who He is.

    • @richardwillford2418
      @richardwillford2418 Год назад

      @@Min-utiae That is so incredibly infantile!

  • @SightseerNW
    @SightseerNW Год назад +22

    One person can change the world…… I’m In!!

    • @jdawg2309
      @jdawg2309 Год назад +1

      I have one life to live and I am going to throw it away. Either to hedonistic pleasures or as a “sacrifice” to God and I would much rather pick up the very thing that will kill me and carry it as far as I can (My Cross) than live a mediocre pointless life. As the story of Lot goes, it only takes 10 righteous people to save a city. Consider me in too!

    • @Sweethands4
      @Sweethands4 11 месяцев назад

      The world is constantly changing (it's NEVER actually the same twice) and each of us is necessarily a part of the world at large. So while you certainly CAN change the world, you're missing a deeper truth....
      ....that you already DO.

  • @cachinnation448
    @cachinnation448 Год назад +23

    This was FANTASTIC. Ayaan, John and Jordan were their usual brilliant selves, but being a long-time fan of Os (and having met him in Cairo in 2006), I think I invited him into my heart tonight.

  • @autumnangel3001
    @autumnangel3001 Год назад +32

    This is SO needed as it’s placed in the right context and is Truth, we need this now more than ever.

    • @frijolero6048
      @frijolero6048 Год назад

      What is your 'Truth'?

    • @autumnangel3001
      @autumnangel3001 Год назад

      @@frijolero6048 I should have said ‘to me’ as I don’t assume to speak for all! But it is a worthy discussion and spoke to me. X

  • @claranordblom8968
    @claranordblom8968 Год назад +21

    ‘ All souls are equal in the eyes of heaven’ I like that

  • @erikavarga7060
    @erikavarga7060 Год назад +57

    Great discussion among great minds.

  • @ezraepizon5303
    @ezraepizon5303 Год назад +41

    Ayann is one of the most inspirational people on contemporary earth. It's a miracle she made it to freedom. She may be regarded as a prophet in the future.

  • @wendykirbymedium7596
    @wendykirbymedium7596 Год назад +38

    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Absolutely brilliant! I 100% agree with EVERYTHING you’ve all discussed and I’m pleased it’s finally getting said and hopefully worked on. Wonderful 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @Lerian_V
      @Lerian_V Год назад

      Hi Wendy, any chance of helping a random stranger in need out of your kindness?

  • @jonross6774
    @jonross6774 Год назад +30

    Incredibly insightful panel-the path forward is here, all we need to do is take action against these self evident truths👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @jimmurphy4083
    @jimmurphy4083 Год назад +28

    Excellent talk, thank you all for your efforts for all people. Thank you.

  • @davedewitt759
    @davedewitt759 Год назад +28

    9:32 Outstanding and worth a listen more than once

  • @sheilaoneil18
    @sheilaoneil18 Год назад +12

    This is WONDERFUL! At last. Sharing with everyone is essential.

  • @dianehghzn7670
    @dianehghzn7670 5 месяцев назад +1

    And above all I love the Aussy speaker above all no nonsense and straight to the point 💟☮️✝️🧡☸️✡️🕉️💙🩷🕎🛐🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱💛💙🌹💝

  • @alaia-awakened
    @alaia-awakened Год назад +20

    I’m beyond excited to see this movement happening

  • @chrisrobertson778
    @chrisrobertson778 Год назад +29

    Os just said it perfectly, we are living in a world breathing it last breaths, God help our children

    • @markd3250
      @markd3250 Год назад +1

      Isn't it interesting that you say "God help our children" as though that's the last resort. God should be our FIRST resort. Teach your children about God. Tell them to pray. Teach them the command of Jesus "As I have loved you, love one another. People will know you are my disciples if you love one another." Read 1st Corinthians chapter 13 to them, so they understand what that love is. Plant those seeds, water, protect and FIGHT for their survival. Fight against the flood of lies and corruption. Teach them that Jesus is our ark, and if they enter the ark they will be saved from the flood. Your children may surprise you. They can have more strength than perhaps you realize.

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 11 месяцев назад

      @@markd3250 This is the new ARC that’ll save you. The word isn’t a coincidence. Zionism seems very evident within the movement.

  • @anairenemartinez165
    @anairenemartinez165 Год назад +9

    So glad to hear from a Muslim who left that faith confirmed what it has alway said about Islam and I have read a few gaslight denying it.

  • @anyacaspari9064
    @anyacaspari9064 9 дней назад

    Love John Anderson, His clear observations, are brilliant and well articulated

  • @MathiasMNielsen
    @MathiasMNielsen Год назад +17

    What an inspiring talk - commenting and sharing so it will hopefully make millions stand together in a new hope for the future

  • @nateauld
    @nateauld Год назад +6

    Ayaan's closing remarks are so good - 48:37
    Oz stated the West is like a cut flower, beautiful with no roots, doomed to die. Ayaan said this is true, but what we do have is seed packets - in libraries, in wise people, in statues, etc; remnants of our best achievements/ideas, to plant, water, nurture, propogate and protect.
    So good.

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад +1

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

  • @johnlocke6800
    @johnlocke6800 Год назад +152

    John hit the nail on the head. If there is no God above the state, then the state becomes god.

    • @frijolero6048
      @frijolero6048 Год назад

      So which god should be above the state?

    • @angusmacangus3181
      @angusmacangus3181 Год назад +12

      @@frijolero6048 In Western Civilization? You already know the answer.

    • @frijolero6048
      @frijolero6048 Год назад +2

      @@angusmacangus3181 I live in Canada. Many religions are practiced here. Islam? Sihkism? Hinduism? Christianity? Buhddism? Which one should be above the state?

    • @angusmacangus3181
      @angusmacangus3181 Год назад +12

      @@frijolero6048 Western Civilization historically speaking comes from the Judeo-Christian tradition, which is its religious heritage.

    • @frijolero6048
      @frijolero6048 Год назад +1

      @@angusmacangus3181 Ok, but here in North America there have always been different religions, including the indigenous beliefs that have been marginalized. Today, Canada is multicultural with numerous faiths. I don't think the Judeo-Christian faith should be dominant in Canada given our contemporary demographic.

  • @buildingourdaydream9804
    @buildingourdaydream9804 Год назад +3

    “Freedom is not the permission to do what you like, it is the power to do what you ought.” ~ Lord Acton

  • @suzannemiro6734
    @suzannemiro6734 Год назад +6

    It’s refreshing to listen to well informed intelligent people …great minds..I wish our youth would listen to this .Not to the Neo Marxist demagogues 👍📚🙏

  • @jurajsekej1174
    @jurajsekej1174 Год назад +16

    That end absolutely killed me .. left me speechless.. with tears in the corneras of the eyes ..

  • @theknowerandtheknown
    @theknowerandtheknown Год назад +5

    Ayaan, Hitchens views on what today looks like would be pure gold. I would so love to hear them!

  • @rosamoreno2651
    @rosamoreno2651 Год назад +10

    "Contrast is the mother of clarity." Coming from an immigrant family. I can fully compare our native country and the USA. I'm beyond appreciative and blessed for the opportunity, growth and safety this beautiful country has given us. This new WOKE generation is entitled and blind. They have no understanding and lack gratitude towards what this country is to it's citizens and the rest of the nations. They have shelter, food, opportunity democracy, justice...SMH while many others will NEVER experience that.

  • @jjuniper274
    @jjuniper274 Год назад +16

    I think it's wonderful that JBP has made these people known to many.
    I am hoping these videos gain traction.

  • @daviddeck1266
    @daviddeck1266 Год назад +9

    I’ve bin awaiting the opening of the ARC,this is exciting!

  • @alanalynn2023
    @alanalynn2023 Год назад +4

    Thankful for this greatly needed movement of Truth

  • @beaanderson6488
    @beaanderson6488 Год назад +26

    We need more erudite and exceptionally courageous, outspoken people like John Anderson to represent the Australian people and policy.

  • @ekoe5484
    @ekoe5484 Год назад +23

    "seed them, grown them, water them, nurture them, and when they are attacked . . . defend them!" what a GREAT comment. Thank you Ayaan Hirsi Ali, thank you all.

  • @Hellyers
    @Hellyers Год назад +33

    33:40 I've always loved Os Guiness' ability to turn a phrase... "Contrast is the mother of clarity" is one of his best.

    • @nathanapocalypse1992
      @nathanapocalypse1992 Год назад

      Sounds like something from Abraham Hicks 😆

    • @tommore8303
      @tommore8303 Год назад

      Clearly! ☺

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 11 месяцев назад

      Who defines those choices of contrast? You and I? Or them? Isn’t that what Democracy gives us?

  • @bonniefrench9884
    @bonniefrench9884 Год назад +38

    I have shared this with my children and friends ! Such a contrast compared to the depressing nonsense spewed out of the media and so called learning institutions today !

    • @Lerian_V
      @Lerian_V Год назад

      You could share a few $$$ with me and help me avoid hunger and homelessness for a month.

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 11 месяцев назад

      This is the media spawning out content. It’s depressing nonsense if you’re attuned to the media and learning institutions you detest. It isn’t going to unite, it’s just adding another divide, which empowers the State. Divide and conquer. That’s the narrative in play. It’s who and why.

  • @MiguelDLewis
    @MiguelDLewis Год назад +8

    47:31 "Now, I can say I am proudly of Judeochristian religion." - Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    Hallelujah 🙏🏾✝🕎

  • @walkmetothemoon
    @walkmetothemoon Год назад +38

    Ayaan's comments from 2:10 to 7:30, especially from 6:40, are key. True, clever and concise. Thanks for the great content.

    • @dreinhard52
      @dreinhard52 Год назад +4

      Agreed Ayaan Hirsi Ali is so clear. I hope many take note.

    • @dreinhard52
      @dreinhard52 Год назад +1

      @@Joe-sg9ll and you just dont care do you ! Shame shame

    • @Don-ev9rb
      @Don-ev9rb Год назад

      So you agree with her that all people who attend a pro-Palestine march are siding with evil?
      If so please explain why this viewpoint is justified...

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

    • @Don-ev9rb
      @Don-ev9rb Год назад

      @@dreinhard52 Weird , I don't even see a comment of Joe...

  • @claireroche8920
    @claireroche8920 Год назад +10

    Always a true gift from God. I pray for more God given wisdom for our leaders. Peterson is one of my favorite people on this planet. Please share these videos.

  • @kristyhand6209
    @kristyhand6209 Год назад +3

    Wow! I am blown away! Thank-you Lady and Gentlemen. What a panel. 🧐🧐🧐❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏

  • @MegPea391
    @MegPea391 Год назад +13

    “If there’s no truth, everything is power.”

    • @philosphorus
      @philosphorus Год назад

      I don't know what you think this means, but it doesn't make any sense. Friedrich Nietzsche said the ultimate will to power is philosophy. 'Truth' is really an ambiguous word without much meaning unless you qualify what you mean by it. Your statement is idiotic.

  • @AlanaMcleary
    @AlanaMcleary Год назад +13

    Love this woman's point of view and intelligence, why can't more people see this so apparent truth

  • @christianelauener8975
    @christianelauener8975 Год назад +5

    Contrast is the mother of clarity. Listening to four well-meaning, articulate, historically versed, visionary, courageously outspoken and never loosing sight of a given transcendent truth. Thank you for the contrast you manifest to so many evil, dark, enslaving, and obscure opnions we are forcefed by media and education. Thank you.

  • @randywise5241
    @randywise5241 Год назад +7

    The wisdom of the elderly is just the memories of the mistakes and what doesn't work. Listening to them can save you a lot of troubles.

  • @Vorgaloth
    @Vorgaloth Год назад +12

    Next video to watch is James Lindsay's 28 min talk at the European Parliament. Best summation of the Woke cultural revolution in the West.

  • @timothywood4402
    @timothywood4402 Год назад +5

    So very Powerful. Compleat common sense. This video needs to be shared and replayed everywhere.

  • @stind1299
    @stind1299 Год назад +1

    Wow what incredibly powerful insights. An amazing and profound conversation. Ayaan Ali brings home the point that we are responsible for growing and nuturing Western civilisation.

  • @susanacton5007
    @susanacton5007 Год назад +7

    Marvelous speaker in Ayaan. Inspirational.

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

  • @gborsonello
    @gborsonello Год назад +14

    Jordan Peterson is writing History as we go. He chose to transform and migliorate the current state of affairs, instead of only philosophizing about it. 👏👏Bravo

    • @thadofalltrades
      @thadofalltrades Год назад +2

      This is the first time I've seen the right actually talk about coming up with real solutions rather than bitching about what the left is doing.

    • @mfwebpea2935
      @mfwebpea2935 Год назад

      Thanks to all involved it's a start of the blank

  • @VitoVisintini
    @VitoVisintini Год назад +21

    Wonderful! I have a new, brighter understanding of our role in the world. Thank you all so much!

  • @QuantumTeapot
    @QuantumTeapot Год назад +6

    As someone who would be considered an atheist (agnostic at best), I appreciate all of you guys and what you stand for. I don’t share any of your beliefs and I also don’t think they’re necessary for your arguments but I appreciate you none the less. I especially love listening to Jordan and John (I am Australian, John is fantastic) Keep up the great work!
    Cheers

  • @gailcarey3597
    @gailcarey3597 Год назад +46

    Thank you for having Ayaan on your panel.
    The Western Story began in the Holy Land.

    • @nonfictionone
      @nonfictionone Год назад +3

      No it didn’t. Know your history.

    • @catherinecastle8576
      @catherinecastle8576 Год назад +1

      ​@nonfictionone, where did the West start? It's my understanding the West is Christendom, meaning, New Testament Israel. However, Jewry no more represents Old Testament Israel than Roman Catholicism and Protestantism represent New Testament Christianity. It's rather challenging to get to the truth.

    • @nonfictionone
      @nonfictionone Год назад

      @@catherinecastle8576 The West is not christendom. christendom happened in the west, and other places. The west existed long before christendom and will exist long afterwards. History is littered with religions. They come and go. The middle east is not islam. Islam happened there, and will die and be replaced.

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 11 месяцев назад

      Then why do we have BC and it’s rich history of the West, which is, after all, geographical, not ideological.

    • @nonfictionone
      @nonfictionone 11 месяцев назад

      @@brynleytalbot778 because christianity became the dominant religion. So we use BC/AD. Christian holy days were laid over the top of pagan festivals, because Constantine could not stop people celebrating these ancient rituals. MANY religions have come and gone. Id you were born in the different time, you would have a different religion. That should tell you all you need to know. Indeed if you were born in a different place today, you would have a different religion. And The West is now an ideology, not a physical place.

  • @mottgirl13
    @mottgirl13 Год назад +18

    ‘Contrast is the mother of clarity’ - Os Guinness 🙏🏻

  • @annamurray349
    @annamurray349 Год назад +3

    To Ayan: it warmed my heart to hear you describe yourself as a Christian! For years I prayed for you and I will continue to pray for your continued journey!

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

  • @dianewarner7505
    @dianewarner7505 Год назад +7

    I’m delighted to hear all of you coming to and showing everyone that we still have options. I’ve was so fortunate to have a brilliant story tell for a Dad he was a man that lived an amazing life and he was intelligent man. He spent most of my childhood operating a shearing business in the north west of Western Australia. He wrote a book but sadly it was never published. He spoke often of living in this harsh part of australia. I have never stepped foot north of sharks bay until four years ago, I now live in the mining town of Wickham and very few people even know the this part of the country was sheep country and the value this land was built on the back of a sheep.

  • @SheDreadsElectionYears
    @SheDreadsElectionYears Год назад +7

    Ayaan, is such an inspiration! She's taken on so much risk to give her children a better life than she had. This is my dream. All the speakers were wonderful, but Ayaan has street cred that slays!

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад +1

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

  • @Alex-xf8pl
    @Alex-xf8pl Год назад +9

    "true power is someone who can turn an enemy into a friend"

  • @rosemaryalles6043
    @rosemaryalles6043 Год назад +5

    Beautiful. Specially Ayaan's words. Thank you. We too are seeds. Let us speak. 💚

    • @annakimborahpa
      @annakimborahpa Год назад +1

      On Nov. 13, 2023 Ayaan Hirsi Ali published her article on the unherd website 'Why I am now a Christian.'

  • @alexandraward1248
    @alexandraward1248 Год назад +7

    Brilliant conversation. Thank you!

  • @islamentable1290
    @islamentable1290 Год назад +16

    Total suppression happening to this channel. Loving the vibe here.

  • @margaretgrey4238
    @margaretgrey4238 Год назад +1

    I love you guys. New discovery of Os Guiness is wonderful. Ayan, John, Jordan, Os, Phillippa, thank you! Big Hug! I love you all...Freedom to Love Light not Darkness. MLK jr.

  • @elizabethadamson3814
    @elizabethadamson3814 Год назад +3

    EXERLLENT CONVERSATION GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU MR JORDAN PETERSON ❤🎉

  • @louisaweiler5340
    @louisaweiler5340 Год назад +3

    "if society abandons religion, it doesn't really become secular. It just starts investing in other things. The question is if those other things, are actually doing a good job of filling the void". Quote that I probably got from Peterson 🤔👌

  • @davidlakhter
    @davidlakhter Год назад +13

    great conversation!

  • @bobwallace7487
    @bobwallace7487 5 месяцев назад

    The conversations taking place and made available to ‘we the human beings’ is a fantastic and courageous undertaking. Our collective education has stifled the ability to deeply consider our reality. Steps forward. It provides faith. Hope. Perhaps we will turn the corner. Deepest appreciation and admiration for you all🙏🙏🙏

  • @charlesmadera-zp3yh
    @charlesmadera-zp3yh Год назад +3

    Thank you Dr. Peterson and all the panelist for making The ARC possible.

  • @thepiggishshow
    @thepiggishshow Год назад +9

    I can’t wait to see more. ❤

  • @bluewren2
    @bluewren2 Год назад +7

    Lovely people but naturally just love John Anderson.

  • @aliceyuniaty1689
    @aliceyuniaty1689 Год назад +1

    That's true, telling the stories is important. The worst thing is the curriculum in your schools prohibitted the stories to be told to the students for the shake of not impossing a belief into the students. But the reality is your nation has the journey and the history through that stories and Faith.

  • @lindareboh-king1064
    @lindareboh-king1064 Год назад +4

    Been following Ayala (sp) since I read her book Infidel. She has an incredible story and is the bravest woman alive. She risks her life every time she speaks God Bless her and the whole panel!

  • @elwiramendezs1144
    @elwiramendezs1144 4 месяца назад

    ❤Love and thank you all for this great Conference!!❤

  • @renajacc1
    @renajacc1 Год назад +20

    What a great conversation! Thank you all!