Great, straightforward video. I'm in the process of changing the orings on my 1979 115 Johnson from my late father. It's actually also mounted on a glastron, mine is a 1980 SSV 167!
Sweet boat and I’m sure your grandfather is happy that you have it as he looks after from above ❤️🙏 Thank you for posting and this vid is very helpful. Stay awesome!
Finally somebody with a video on the exact type of unit that I have to which I can see the shit that I thought was going to be needed is needed. I appreciate the video
Glad it helped you! That’s why I make my video. I just uploaded a video on the lower gear unit oil as well. Check that out too. It’s an important part of maintenance!
Great tips! Love the old Glastron! We had one when I was kid (60's) and you just don't see 'em around much anymore! I guess they're still building them but they have changed the iconic paint scheme a bit. Again, great tips!
That was the perfect video that's exactly what I needs to see I'm about as green as the grass when it comes to these boats LOL thank you thank you very much and looking forward to more helpful hints.
Nice one mate! My 85 HP Yamaha tilt trim played up today. I was gunna' check our crab traps. & at the ramp the motor wouldn't go down. The hydraulic pump is running , and eventually dropped. I thot' lack of fluid! I know it's an Evinrude/Johnson but it is exactly the same as the Japanese rip off. I appreciate your vid especially the ATF fluid.
Thanks! I'm about to tear into my 125 horsepower Force for the same problem... The shop told me they couldn't rebuild the pumps and it would be 6 or $700 for a used replacement unit...
Glad it helped! I believe most units have a manual release. So check into yours, I’d start with trim and tilt fluid and then move on to seals and rebuilding. If your hearing no motor pumping or trying to pump. That may be gone as well. Best of luck to you!
Do you happen to have a video on how to replace the trim motor (in case that is what I need to do)? I loved your video as I have an Evinrude VRO 140 (1985) (On a Glastron), so it looks very much like your boat engine.
My system is a little different but it definitely sounds like that. I didn’t know if I should leave the cap off or not because the fluid was pouring out lol.
I don’t know your exact system, but generally during the flush part you leave the plug off. Fluid is supposed to come out during the flush. Once the lines and cylinders are clear of most of the air, then the final part is fill the reservoir to the max fill. The whole process is very similar to bleeding brakes.
Very helpful. Question that maybe you can answer? My fill screw seems to be rusted tight. Any ideas on how to free it up? 1988 Johnson 88 SPL motor. Motor mount looks exactly like yours.
Try PB plaster and an impact screwdriver, but the chances are the fill screw will be damaged. Heat can sometimes work, but there should be a rubber gasket. So if you do use heat you’ll want to replace the screw and gasket.
@@ProjectComplete PB really is the best penetrant. And very good advice. I've been am mechanic for over 30 years and I would have given the exact same advice.
fyi if you dont have that special tool, you can use the blade from a dull chisel or screw driver and hammer the small holes in the losen direction to remove and tap it off and on, same as the old school sttuts on a car,
I will gave to give this a try. I'm tired of doing it manually letting down and lifting up the motor. And also a question what do I use for lower unit to fill the gear oil?
Yes, that hydraulic system was actually from a another boat of the same year. Before it was just a manual trim tilt system. I had to wire everything from scratch from relays and fuses. It’s funny you mention lower gear unit. My next video is on lower gear unit maintenance. I typically use 80w-90 gear oil and change it once a year unless your noticing water getting into it.
My 1979 85 hp seals are leaking I can’t find the part and I’m not sure if that’s the proper term for the part? My mechanic can’t find any online but he said if I find the parts I could do it myself , can you help identify the part for me? It’s the circle thing with the 4 holes in it , he said that’s all I need to replace
This was a very informative video, thank you. My motor won't go down unless I open the side screw. However, the two lower pistons won't go down at all. Any thoughts?
Usually it’s one motor for the whole system. What you mentioned above is why I replaced my seals. Start with making sure the pistons aren’t seized and then replace seals and fluid.
@@ProjectComplete thanks. I was able to get it to go up and down by leaving the fill cap off, backing the relief screw out to lower it and lowering it. Then lraising it. I did this a few times and it would go down.
Hi man, my boat yesterday the trim tilt was working, and the next day I went to do some check the only think I can hear is noise and the trip tilt is not working, the engine is not going up or down, but the noise sounds like your boat when air was in there. What you suggest to do?
I only did that to remove the pin to the center hydraulic. It was attached to a beam on the exterior over hang of the house. It allowed me to raise and lower the motor without a second hand and get fine adjustments to reinsert the pin. If you are not replacing seals you don’t need to remove the pin or detach the hydraulic from the motor mount the standard safety catch on the motor is all you need. When you have to remove the pin, the motor has to raise past the safety catch. I just didn’t want it slamming back down on the safety catch when the pin get removed. When you are just checking and refilling fluid the motor needs to raise and lower freely.
my trim sounds like the pump is working but it won’t raise or lower at all, just makes noise and it’s full of fluid . could my seals be blown in my pistons ?
You don’t but, it’s not like an engine oil change. If it were me id try to drain as much as possible and replace. If they did it the correct way they should have used hydraulic fluid.
I'm at seal kit do they contain the seals for the center hydraulic cylinder we have one from the same year bought that exact kit and it did not contain the main cylinders seals
I believe they include the seals for everything in the hydraulic trim and tilt unit. But I’m not 100% sure. I didn’t end up using all of the seals in the package.
Well, I would start with a wire brush and good soaking of PB Blaster, let it sit for a while then try again with the tool. If the holes are stripped you could try drilling 3 new holes for the pins of the tool or even possibly hitting it counterclockwise with punch and hammer. Either way you will most likely destroy the old caps and seals. So prepare for that...
Just refilled same tilt trim system but now when lifted all the way up the lift moter stay engaged. Have to disconnect battery to stop tilt motor from operating. What would cause this? Thanks!
@@ProjectComplete it is a thumb lever on the shifter. There is also a switch at the bow. I could attempt with bow switch to isolate shifter switch as issue.
Hmm, seems to be an electrical issue rather than a pump or hydraulic issue. I’d start with checking relays and fuses, then move on to the switch to make sure a connection isn’t sticking after the button is released. You could try jumping the switch to see if it stops when the jump wire is disconnected. If it does then you know it’s the switch. I also know some units have a max stop switch that shuts the pump off when it reaches maximum up or down tilt. Possibly that lever is broken or the wiring is corroded. Sorry I can’t be more help. I am by no means an electrical wizard, either way I’d start with the easiest and move to the harder eliminating one thing at a time.
To remove the pistons. You use the pronged tool to remove the caps and they just slide out. There is nothing that holds them in other than the cap and o ring around the piston. Hope that helps!
I am not sure. It does come with 2 different pin sizes, but I’m not sure about the pin distances. It does fit on several different types models. So I would not be surprised if it does work for your model.
@@ProjectCompletegracias por tu respuesta,me refiero a cuando el motor está en la posición de arriba,al bajarlo con el trim hace movimientos bruscos,da muchos brincos!!!!
Are you referring to mine or yours? If we were talking about mine. It could be a couple of different things. The portion of the engine moving up and down was edited in fast forward. Which can make things look a like jumpy. Also the trim hydraulics move faster than the tilt hydraulics. So you’ll see it’s slow to move and then much faster once the tilt hydraulic kicks in. The trim hydraulics move slowly for fine tune while boating and the tilt hydraulic moves fast to raise the motor. Kind of like a second gear on a car. But really in person it wasn’t jumpy.
i just finished refilling the unit and changing the seals. the seals seem to be holding, the pump runs, there's power to the button, but the motor wont go up or down. i can feel pressure building in the pistons, because there is resistance, but i am at a loss as to why it wont pressurize and function. any thoughts?
Can you manually raise and lower the motor. If not the pistons may be seized and/or the rebuild/gaskets were done wrong. If you can manually raise and lower. The pistons aren’t seized and the hinge point may be. I’d try disconnecting the piston from the motor and see if they move. If the do and your motor hinge point is not seized. Your pump may be acting up and not providing enough power to get the motors weight up and down. I’d start with check oil and going from the top of this message through the rest.
Yes, i can raise and lower it. I'll need a had to remove the piston and raise and lower it, but i think it will move. I released some air and think i may have released too much oil in the process. The pump is making some weird noises now, but it seems odd to have been working fine before the project and now...failing. but i guess everything has to break at some point. thanks for the feddback. i'll let you know what happens once i disconnect the piston@@ProjectComplete
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Great, straightforward video. I'm in the process of changing the orings on my 1979 115 Johnson from my late father. It's actually also mounted on a glastron, mine is a 1980 SSV 167!
What a beautiful old boat, and with your know how it should stay that way.
Thanks for taking the time to create and post this video. The level of detail is great.
Glad to hear it helped!
Great video, you are the first guy I have seen that did it the right way.
Sweet boat and I’m sure your grandfather is happy that you have it as he looks after from above ❤️🙏
Thank you for posting and this vid is very helpful. Stay awesome!
Glad it helped. Yes, I’m sure he’s happy it’s getting use!
Love the Orange and the Old Boat ,sweet.
Finally somebody with a video on the exact type of unit that I have to which I can see the shit that I thought was going to be needed is needed. I appreciate the video
Glad it helped you! That’s why I make my video. I just uploaded a video on the lower gear unit oil as well. Check that out too. It’s an important part of maintenance!
Thanks for the great instructions! Exactly what I need ...... as soon as Hillary passes through.
Great tips! Love the old Glastron! We had one when I was kid (60's) and you just don't see 'em around much anymore! I guess they're still building them but they have changed the iconic paint scheme a bit. Again, great tips!
That was the perfect video that's exactly what I needs to see I'm about as green as the grass when it comes to these boats LOL thank you thank you very much and looking forward to more helpful hints.
Glad I could help!
Nice one mate! My 85 HP Yamaha tilt trim played up today. I was gunna' check our crab traps. & at the ramp the motor wouldn't go down. The hydraulic pump is running , and eventually dropped. I thot' lack of fluid! I know it's an Evinrude/Johnson but it is exactly the same as the Japanese rip off. I appreciate your vid especially the ATF fluid.
Glad I could help! Thanks for the comment. Hope you got it all figured out!
nice job on this video! the info and camera work was great!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you. Keep up the good work. You've saved me a trim change
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Hwy, Thanks! I just took care of my Johnson 140. Works great. Loved the clear camera shots.
Thanks!
Helped me out big time thanks... I was stuck in the up position. Notice I WAS lol thanks again
Glad it helped!
Awesome brother! I have the same motor so I will be watching and probably reaching out for help! :) Thanks!
Nice tutorial. That boat is mint!
Thanks!
thank you wasn't sure if i needed to put the plug in after i filled it before cycling
Glad it helped!
Thanks! I'm about to tear into my 125 horsepower Force for the same problem... The shop told me they couldn't rebuild the pumps and it would be 6 or $700 for a used replacement unit...
Hey bro. I have a mercruiser outdrive that is partially up/down. I'll do my best to apply your teaching in this video. Thanks for sharing!
Glad it helped! I believe most units have a manual release. So check into yours, I’d start with trim and tilt fluid and then move on to seals and rebuilding. If your hearing no motor pumping or trying to pump. That may be gone as well. Best of luck to you!
Awesome vid bro..... Your just saved me alot of money!
Keep up the good work, sweet boat by the way!!!
Thanks! Glad it helped.
Thanks a lot ...that really helps me a big time.
Glad it helped!
Awesome thanks for the video all the best from the land down under
Glad it helped!
Do you happen to have a video on how to replace the trim motor (in case that is what I need to do)? I loved your video as I have an Evinrude VRO 140 (1985) (On a Glastron), so it looks very much like your boat engine.
No I don’t sorry, I’ve never had to replace mine.
Well done and very informative. Thank you! What is the approximate fluid capacity?
Sorry I don’t remember. I believe it was about 1.5 quarts I used, but it also loses fluid in the fill process.
@@ProjectComplete Thank you
My system is a little different but it definitely sounds like that. I didn’t know if I should leave the cap off or not because the fluid was pouring out lol.
I don’t know your exact system, but generally during the flush part you leave the plug off. Fluid is supposed to come out during the flush. Once the lines and cylinders are clear of most of the air, then the final part is fill the reservoir to the max fill. The whole process is very similar to bleeding brakes.
lmao the intro was gold
Very helpful. Question that maybe you can answer? My fill screw seems to be rusted tight. Any ideas on how to free it up? 1988 Johnson 88 SPL motor. Motor mount looks exactly like yours.
Try PB plaster and an impact screwdriver, but the chances are the fill screw will be damaged. Heat can sometimes work, but there should be a rubber gasket. So if you do use heat you’ll want to replace the screw and gasket.
@@ProjectComplete PB really is the best penetrant. And very good advice. I've been am mechanic for over 30 years and I would have given the exact same advice.
Thank you! This was very helpful!
Good. Thank you.
fyi if you dont have that special tool, you can use the blade from a dull chisel or screw driver and hammer the small holes in the losen direction to remove and tap it off and on, same as the old school sttuts on a car,
Thanks for the tip. It worked for me.
Glad it helped you out!
Good job brother.
I will gave to give this a try. I'm tired of doing it manually letting down and lifting up the motor. And also a question what do I use for lower unit to fill the gear oil?
Yes, that hydraulic system was actually from a another boat of the same year. Before it was just a manual trim tilt system. I had to wire everything from scratch from relays and fuses.
It’s funny you mention lower gear unit. My next video is on lower gear unit maintenance. I typically use 80w-90 gear oil and change it once a year unless your noticing water getting into it.
My 1979 85 hp seals are leaking I can’t find the part and I’m not sure if that’s the proper term for the part? My mechanic can’t find any online but he said if I find the parts I could do it myself , can you help identify the part for me? It’s the circle thing with the 4 holes in it , he said that’s all I need to replace
Well done video, thank you
This was a very informative video, thank you. My motor won't go down unless I open the side screw. However, the two lower pistons won't go down at all. Any thoughts?
It will go up though. Is there just one motor for both up and down?
Usually it’s one motor for the whole system. What you mentioned above is why I replaced my seals. Start with making sure the pistons aren’t seized and then replace seals and fluid.
@@ProjectComplete thanks. I was able to get it to go up and down by leaving the fill cap off, backing the relief screw out to lower it and lowering it. Then lraising it. I did this a few times and it would go down.
thank you sr! very helpful!
Hi man, my boat yesterday the trim tilt was working, and the next day I went to do some check the only think I can hear is noise and the trip tilt is not working, the engine is not going up or down, but the noise sounds like your boat when air was in there. What you suggest to do?
I’d start with checking/adding fluid. If that doesn’t work you may have a problem with your pump, but I’d start with the oil because it’s cheaper.
nice job ,nice explain!
It looks like you have an orange strap around the lower end while you have the engine up. Is that for extra safety? What do you strap it to?
I only did that to remove the pin to the center hydraulic. It was attached to a beam on the exterior over hang of the house. It allowed me to raise and lower the motor without a second hand and get fine adjustments to reinsert the pin. If you are not replacing seals you don’t need to remove the pin or detach the hydraulic from the motor mount the standard safety catch on the motor is all you need. When you have to remove the pin, the motor has to raise past the safety catch. I just didn’t want it slamming back down on the safety catch when the pin get removed. When you are just checking and refilling fluid the motor needs to raise and lower freely.
my trim sounds like the pump is working but it won’t raise or lower at all, just makes noise and it’s full of fluid . could my seals be blown in my pistons ?
Yes, it’s possible the system is not holding pressure. It’s also possible that your pump is trying to pump, but not actually working.
Nicely done
If we just bought the boat and lost contact with the previous owner how would we know what fluid is in there?
You don’t but, it’s not like an engine oil change. If it were me id try to drain as much as possible and replace. If they did it the correct way they should have used hydraulic fluid.
Nice video Bro!!!🤓 Thanks!!!!
Thanks glad it helped!
I'm at seal kit do they contain the seals for the center hydraulic cylinder we have one from the same year bought that exact kit and it did not contain the main cylinders seals
I believe they include the seals for everything in the hydraulic trim and tilt unit. But I’m not 100% sure. I didn’t end up using all of the seals in the package.
Have similar trim/tab that all wires were cut -any way you could for quick talk? Thanks.
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Sometimes my engine goes down on its own…. Not all the time but it should always hold up. Any ideas? Could I be low on fluid?
If we’re talking about a slow drop or “sag”. I would guess a seal leak or low fluid. I’d start with check levels. Best of luck!
Nice tutorial but for future videos when your trying to show air noise in the system you might want to nix the music lol.
Beautiful Glastron
Thanks!
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If the caps are corroded to no end what’s the best way to remove them. Holes on the caps are shallow and brittle when I use that specific tool
Well, I would start with a wire brush and good soaking of PB Blaster, let it sit for a while then try again with the tool. If the holes are stripped you could try drilling 3 new holes for the pins of the tool or even possibly hitting it counterclockwise with punch and hammer. Either way you will most likely destroy the old caps and seals. So prepare for that...
Appreciate the upload man, beautiful boat brotha.
Where can I buy the manual pump that you used for the Reservoir refill
Link in the description for you.
nice and clear. .. but I saw another vedios tit the scrow
Good job man
Thanks, glad it helped!
Just refilled same tilt trim system but now when lifted all the way up the lift moter stay engaged. Have to disconnect battery to stop tilt motor from operating. What would cause this? Thanks!
Is it a press and hold trim button?
@@ProjectComplete it is a thumb lever on the shifter. There is also a switch at the bow. I could attempt with bow switch to isolate shifter switch as issue.
Hmm, seems to be an electrical issue rather than a pump or hydraulic issue. I’d start with checking relays and fuses, then move on to the switch to make sure a connection isn’t sticking after the button is released. You could try jumping the switch to see if it stops when the jump wire is disconnected. If it does then you know it’s the switch. I also know some units have a max stop switch that shuts the pump off when it reaches maximum up or down tilt. Possibly that lever is broken or the wiring is corroded. Sorry I can’t be more help. I am by no means an electrical wizard, either way I’d start with the easiest and move to the harder eliminating one thing at a time.
Great video. thanks!
No problem, glad it could help you!
What tool did you use?
good video thanks
thank you i can fix my motor now save me some money yeah
thanks that was helpful beutiful boat yo have
maravilhoso vídeo!
where did you buy your tool and O ring kit ?
Link to the exact one I used is in the description.
Where did you get that tool to take the caps off
Amazon. The link to the exact one I use is in the description for you.
My motor goes down slow and up really slow and will need help from me to get it up completely do know why do I have a bad trim motor
Could be several things. I’d start with the cheaper options first. Flush and check fluid, replace seals and check pistons. Then replace motor…
It would've been nice to see how you removed the pistons.
To remove the pistons. You use the pronged tool to remove the caps and they just slide out. There is nothing that holds them in other than the cap and o ring around the piston. Hope that helps!
Will this wrench fit on a 90hp tilt and trim?
I am not sure. It does come with 2 different pin sizes, but I’m not sure about the pin distances. It does fit on several different types models. So I would not be surprised if it does work for your model.
Buenas noches,con una duda por qué mi trim golpetea el motor cada. Vez que lo bajo,gracias
I dont know what you mean by "hit the engine". Can you provide more description?
@@ProjectCompletegracias por tu respuesta,me refiero a cuando el motor está en la posición de arriba,al bajarlo con el trim hace movimientos bruscos,da muchos brincos!!!!
Check out my glastron 89 futura. Good video. I think I gotta do this to mine!
Thanks for the feedback!
So if your got power but your motor won’t go down is that cause it’s got no fluid left in it ?
Not necessarily. I would start with checking fluid and making sure the pistons aren't seized. Your motor might be shot.
Yep checked that and not a drop of fluid coming out I was using the boat the other week so that’s what I was thinking needs fluid ?
great
Why does a motor seem "jumpy" as it is trimmed up & down?
Are you referring to mine or yours? If we were talking about mine. It could be a couple of different things. The portion of the engine moving up and down was edited in fast forward. Which can make things look a like jumpy. Also the trim hydraulics move faster than the tilt hydraulics. So you’ll see it’s slow to move and then much faster once the tilt hydraulic kicks in. The trim hydraulics move slowly for fine tune while boating and the tilt hydraulic moves fast to raise the motor. Kind of like a second gear on a car. But really in person it wasn’t jumpy.
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i just finished refilling the unit and changing the seals. the seals seem to be holding, the pump runs, there's power to the button, but the motor wont go up or down. i can feel pressure building in the pistons, because there is resistance, but i am at a loss as to why it wont pressurize and function. any thoughts?
Can you manually raise and lower the motor. If not the pistons may be seized and/or the rebuild/gaskets were done wrong. If you can manually raise and lower. The pistons aren’t seized and the hinge point may be. I’d try disconnecting the piston from the motor and see if they move. If the do and your motor hinge point is not seized. Your pump may be acting up and not providing enough power to get the motors weight up and down. I’d start with check oil and going from the top of this message through the rest.
Yes, i can raise and lower it. I'll need a had to remove the piston and raise and lower it, but i think it will move. I released some air and think i may have released too much oil in the process. The pump is making some weird noises now, but it seems odd to have been working fine before the project and now...failing. but i guess everything has to break at some point. thanks for the feddback. i'll let you know what happens once i disconnect the piston@@ProjectComplete