Hello . Nice to see someone els is breeding them to. I bred them march 2023. You can see on my channel. I breed many species of pencilfish. Your footage is very nice! Congrats!
Hi nice video i just bought 1 male 2 females but i had multiple pencilfish especially purple. I always bought them with the ratio of 4m to 6f. Now the 3 i bought the females are killing each other.going crazy
The purple I talked about I always reminded with 2 or 1 dominant male and the 6 females. The males are very aggressive towards each at least that's my experience
@@adrianzammit4990 what is the tsnk size and what is the total number of live stock in that tank. Pencil fish are bit aggrassive only when they have breeding behaviours according to my experience. But males will fight .. with enough space and dense vegitation will keep the less dominant one in their protection. Daily feed them atleast 2 times. Then they will do good. But as a fact wild cought pencil varities will take long period of time to seattle in a home aquarium.
When we compare cherry ( neocaridina ) and Cenepa red pencil. Cenepa had less therapeautic range of parameters. Also we have less knowledge. But neocaridina shrimp have much more therapeutic range parameters. Then they can bare much more different environment. Neocaridina mostly depend on water temperature and TDS vakue. 22 to 30 celcius. 50 to 130 TDs neocaridina survive and also breed. Ph also 6.5 to 8.2 neocaridina breed. Then ww can understand with this range i maintain cenepa red tank. Then both can live todether. But the problem is cenepa breeding. Cenepa will not breed without natural environmant. Water colour also should change to bit tanin brown colour. And flow also very low. Such things we can see here.
i find the kubotais breed most days in a full jungle overplanted tank especially if you hatch baby brine for them often i see very very tiny fry swimming on top most days. never had one survive in the tank though they all get eaten i think. to raise the fry i have to remove the fry to a grow out tank(i use 10ltr buckets). i bought 12 juvenile kubes in Nov 23 and have raised close to 150 fry and left as many if not more in with the parents. good luck and cant wait to see the video. i may even try making one myself one day. i have a youtube short of the fry and another short of the tank and feeding the adults but i dont know how to edit at all its bad quality,i just put it out because theres not much info on breeding them on yt lol. great wishes to anyone that enjoy these beautiful fish
@its_elser I bought 6 juveniles but ended up with 7 by mistake. ( on fish stores part, not that I'm complaining ) I have a community planted tank but have a egg collector. Hoping them and CPDs when I purchase them breed in box ( auto egg collector )with moss is. It's only place where moss is rest is various stem plants or crypts
@@nameunknown3735 im sure that would work,i see people doing cpds like that on yt with great success. i was going to try that myself once i learned about it but i didnt end up needing to.(it would be easier) i got 12 (they are pretty rare here in Aus) but 1 jumped out the first night :(. i kept one i raised and sold the rest.i have a lot of 30 going to sell in a few days and a lot of 50 3 weeks behind that. i can start collecting the fry again now i will have room again.
I must have all males as my cenepa are very brightly colored. I’ve found them to be very hardy, adapting to a much wider range of water parameters than their native waters would suggest. I keep mine in relatively soft water (tds 150-170) gh 5-6, kh 2-3 temp 25 C ph 6.8-7.2). I know of people who have success with much harder water, though. They are super beautiful. Until this video, I’d not heard any definitive info about sexing them. If the females are indeed as you describe them, my source only had males for sale. Are you certain that your females are not one of the other closely related species? I suppose if you are successful in raising the fry, you’d be able to tell if they are cross-species offspring by their appearance. Please give us an update.
Most of the time all sellers sell males only they come from S america most of the times only 10 % females . Most sellers sell pale colour fish as females.I laso bought several times pale colour fish. But when we put them into well stablished aquarium, they got the true colours. Then i went to the shop and took all females as per my knowledge. In that shop there are 50 fish. Only 2 females were there. All behaviours are same like cenepa male fish. Body shape. Fin shapes all are similer to Male cenepa. Female cenepa have zero red colour. In contrast to Amaya pencil fish. I already had amaya pencil also. Their female also the same as cenepa female but only differ is they have shade of red colour in dorsal and anal fin. I checked thailand and singapore wild cought wholesale shops, all have same females but very few. I Will update about fry. Please try to select female fish as my description your own.
@@SerendibAquatics Thank you. I’ll be on the lookout for females, but I suspect that they’re hard to find because collectors probably think that only the colorful fish are worth harvesting from the wild because they’re more likely to sell. I’ve had a similar issue with Dario dario (scarlet badis). It’s so difficult to find females. Whenever I think I’ve found one with very little color, I purchase it only to have it become red with a little bit of time.
I think you are the first who actually bred these.
Thank you. Appreciate your valuble coment.
Nice job! And cheers from my fish room channel in Chicago, where I'm a subscriber to yours.
@@LushSaltyAquariums thank you brother.
Good luck ! for your future fish breeding projects
Wow. Never thought this would be possible. Interesting and want to try them breed. Thanks for sharing another quality inmaormative video.
Thank you.
They are a very beautiful species ❤
They are unique and very beautiful. ❤
Hello . Nice to see someone els is breeding them to. I bred them march 2023. You can see on my channel. I breed many species of pencilfish.
Your footage is very nice! Congrats!
@@hansharreveld thank you.
I already breed rocket tail pencil also. I Will update the chanel. They are very hard to breed.
Great video !!! Thank you for sharing ❤❤❤
Thank you.
Hi nice video i just bought 1 male 2 females but i had multiple pencilfish especially purple. I always bought them with the ratio of 4m to 6f. Now the 3 i bought the females are killing each other.going crazy
The purple I talked about I always reminded with 2 or 1 dominant male and the 6 females. The males are very aggressive towards each at least that's my experience
@@adrianzammit4990 what is the tsnk size and what is the total number of live stock in that tank.
Pencil fish are bit aggrassive only when they have breeding behaviours according to my experience. But males will fight .. with enough space and dense vegitation will keep the less dominant one in their protection.
Daily feed them atleast 2 times.
Then they will do good.
But as a fact wild cought pencil varities will take long period of time to seattle in a home aquarium.
@@adrianzammit4990 thank you.
how are they kept with the cherries then? they require pretty different water requirements
When we compare cherry ( neocaridina ) and Cenepa red pencil.
Cenepa had less therapeautic range of parameters.
Also we have less knowledge.
But neocaridina shrimp have much more therapeutic range parameters. Then they can bare much more different environment.
Neocaridina mostly depend on water temperature and TDS vakue. 22 to 30 celcius. 50 to 130 TDs neocaridina survive and also breed. Ph also 6.5 to 8.2 neocaridina breed.
Then ww can understand with this range i maintain cenepa red tank. Then both can live todether.
But the problem is cenepa breeding. Cenepa will not breed without natural environmant. Water colour also should change to bit tanin brown colour. And flow also very low.
Such things we can see here.
I would love to see a detailed neon green rasbora breeding vid
Thank you.
We will do a neon green rasbora breeding guide.
@serandibaquatics that is brilliant news. I love your vids and doing my joint second fave fish would be awesome
i find the kubotais breed most days in a full jungle overplanted tank especially if you hatch baby brine for them often i see very very tiny fry swimming on top most days. never had one survive in the tank though they all get eaten i think. to raise the fry i have to remove the fry to a grow out tank(i use 10ltr buckets). i bought 12 juvenile kubes in Nov 23 and have raised close to 150 fry and left as many if not more in with the parents. good luck and cant wait to see the video. i may even try making one myself one day. i have a youtube short of the fry and another short of the tank and feeding the adults but i dont know how to edit at all its bad quality,i just put it out because theres not much info on breeding them on yt lol. great wishes to anyone that enjoy these beautiful fish
@its_elser I bought 6 juveniles but ended up with 7 by mistake. ( on fish stores part, not that I'm complaining ) I have a community planted tank but have a egg collector. Hoping them and CPDs when I purchase them breed in box ( auto egg collector )with moss is. It's only place where moss is rest is various stem plants or crypts
@@nameunknown3735 im sure that would work,i see people doing cpds like that on yt with great success. i was going to try that myself once i learned about it but i didnt end up needing to.(it would be easier) i got 12 (they are pretty rare here in Aus) but 1 jumped out the first night :(. i kept one i raised and sold the rest.i have a lot of 30 going to sell in a few days and a lot of 50 3 weeks behind that. i can start collecting the fry again now i will have room again.
I must have all males as my cenepa are very brightly colored. I’ve found them to be very hardy, adapting to a much wider range of water parameters than their native waters would suggest. I keep mine in relatively soft water (tds 150-170) gh 5-6, kh 2-3 temp 25 C ph 6.8-7.2). I know of people who have success with much harder water, though. They are super beautiful. Until this video, I’d not heard any definitive info about sexing them. If the females are indeed as you describe them, my source only had males for sale. Are you certain that your females are not one of the other closely related species? I suppose if you are successful in raising the fry, you’d be able to tell if they are cross-species offspring by their appearance. Please give us an update.
Most of the time all sellers sell males only they come from S america most of the times only 10 % females . Most sellers sell pale colour fish as females.I laso bought several times pale colour fish.
But when we put them into well stablished aquarium, they got the true colours.
Then i went to the shop and took all females as per my knowledge. In that shop there are 50 fish. Only 2 females were there.
All behaviours are same like cenepa male fish. Body shape. Fin shapes all are similer to Male cenepa.
Female cenepa have zero red colour.
In contrast to Amaya pencil fish.
I already had amaya pencil also.
Their female also the same as cenepa female but only differ is they have shade of red colour in dorsal and anal fin.
I checked thailand and singapore wild cought wholesale shops, all have same females but very few.
I Will update about fry.
Please try to select female fish as my description your own.
@@SerendibAquatics Thank you. I’ll be on the lookout for females, but I suspect that they’re hard to find because collectors probably think that only the colorful fish are worth harvesting from the wild because they’re more likely to sell. I’ve had a similar issue with Dario dario (scarlet badis). It’s so difficult to find females. Whenever I think I’ve found one with very little color, I purchase it only to have it become red with a little bit of time.
Scarlet, i also have the same problem. Only have males.
I m also searching females these days.
Thank you for share your knowledge.
damn a school of 8 of these and amaya pencilfish cost me a month of salary lol
Correct.
They are much more expensive rare fish.