There is a video out in video land where Isiah Thomas said, "If you were to put Larry, Michael, Magic, and me in a room, the only one walking out of there is Larry Bird."
@@krystofkotasek7110 Zeke said that with Bird present. I think it's TNT, with Isiah Thomas, Reggie Miller and Bird reminiscing about Indiana. Incredible watch.
I was one of the lucky ones to witness Larry Bird play. I grew up in Boston in the 80s and the Celtics have been my team since. One of the greatest players to ever grace the court period.
I was living in the Detroit area during the Bad Boys era and was neutral. I went to every Celtics-Pistons game I was able to. It was hilarious to see Bird burning the Pistons after Isiah Thomas said if Bird were black he would be just another player.
Honestly, if there was a draft today to start a team and I was a GM...Larry Bird would be my first choice over everyone who has ever played in the NBA...and it would be an easy choice for me.
@@scottstewart5784 it would be hard to pass on Bird but, I’d probably take Pete Maravich. (I realize I could get Maravich in later rounds but, I think Pete was the best basketball player I ever saw, so I’m not taking the risk)
My image of bird is him hitting dagger after dagger, high-fiving his teammates as he heads to the bench because the other team has to call timeout to cool him off
I’d like to preface this by saying that I played basketball in NYC in an all black high school and got my nick name from the brothers playing at The Cage and at Rucker Park. We were all trying to emulate what Larry bird was doing on the playground and it was impossible for us. However, I remember hearing what Pat Riley said, “If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game, I’d choose Michael Jordan, but if I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life, I’d take Larry Bird."
I think it's impossible to rate the best player ever--across positions, eras, different rules, different opponents, it's just so hard to assess. That said if I had to put together an all-time starting five, I'd go Magic, Jordan, Bird, Tim Duncan, and Hakeem Olajuwon. And if you needed someone to take a shot to save your life--much as I love MJ--you'd have to go with Bird. The best clutch shooter, and maybe clutch player, of all time.
Wilt Chamberlain needs to be on that team. His talent and all time great athletic abilities make Wilt a player that would dominate in ANY ERA. And Bird today? Larry Legend would average a triple double and I estimate he would do it scoring 37ppg, and I can't imagine a healthy Bird team winning less than 65 games today.
Well, I agree with Bird alot but he is wrong on this.. Shaq was overrated, mainly a big lug.. he was a defensive liability, he was pulled late in games because of his poor FT shooting.. he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn outside of 8 ft, his only move was backing people down with his big rear end which was charging and was never called...his only shot was a dunk, he couldn't run the break, he didn't get back on defense..he was monumentally overrated
@@mitchelll3879 shaq is the only player besides mj to win 3 straight finals mvps 4 rings 5 nba finals appearances in 7 seasons Shaq could’ve been the goat if he had the work ethic
He was just saying that to give Reggie Miller something to talk about, and then he added “after he’s in the league a couple years.”I mean Jordan was the current MVP when bird said that, he obviously didn’t think college Shaq was better than prime Jordan lol
THE GAME BACK THEN WAS A STREET FIGHT ...... and a smart, talented, psycho using psychology and then outworking, out passing, out-shooting and pulling THREE IN ROW = in Three Point Contest as well as MVP ...... leaves NO DOUBT who he was .... Larry Legend !!! (* And I am a Knicks fan, Yankee Fan, so you know I was won over with some scrutiny !!!)
You're right it's a silly comprison. People are just lazy about it because well, they're both white and good, so he's goota be like Larry Bird lol. Bird is by far a better free throw shooter, 3 point shooter, and just shooter in general. One key area people ALWAYS leave out, is that Bird was a pretty good defender, certainly better than Luka. Bird was also a better rebounder. The only area where maybe, maybe Luka is better would be passing.
Listened to Barkley on Conan O'Briens podcast and he won't let anyone forget that Shaq thought the Moon was not as far as a flight from Atlanta to LA because he can see the Moon but not LA from where he was standing. Saw him say it too on Inside the NBA on TNT and he sincerely believed that. Sometimes I question Shaq's Doctorate. Even non basketball watchers and players can tell when someone is really good. Shaq was just hating.
OH give me a break!!Bird scored 24.3 points per game in his career on a .496 field goal percentage, an .886 free throw percentage, and a .376 percentage on three-point shots. Plus 10.0 rebounds per game for his career and 6.3 assists. No one who also played the same sport is that dumb to think Bird was just lucky. The young Shaq just couldn't stand the fact Bird was that good....PERIOD!!
Shaq has a very sensitive ego. Guys like larry are experts at crushing that stuff. I would have loved to see them both on the court. Shaq would get sooky when his ego gets busted. And larry would not back down.
@@adamboylan2307 I was playing a ton of pickup games in the 80s. A lot of times I was the only white guy on the court. 90% of the discussions I overheard between those games was about Larry Bird. I can truly attest that Bird was the most talked about player at the time. The angst that he caused among the bros was unbelievable to listen to.
@@wespaul633 over the years there have been a few white players that all the black fans and players had a ton of respect for... Besides bird there was Jerry west.. John havlicek.. Rick Barry.. pistol Pete and afew others... These were some bad men
Many of the comments I'm reading about Shaq's EARLY opinion of Bird, make me think folks weren't paying attention to what he said. A lot of folks weren't fans of Bird in the 80s and 90s;" White Savior"; " can't jump";"can't run";"overhyped". I was a fan of HIS...not Boston...and had numerous arguments about him with friends. They'd say I fell for the hype. I told them,..".what happens on the court will tell if you can actually play, or not. If he wasn't pro-ready, the players would expose him. And,...he hasn't been exposed yet. The MF'er can flat out play. Y'all can't figure out how he does what he's doing, because you're not paying attention to how he plays. Pay attention to his SKILLS." They'd look at me like I was a fool. Over time, each of 'em would tell me I was right. Shaq had the "lucky" opinion when he was younger, and changed it a few years after;he said it. Weren't people paying attention ? If NBA PLAYERS had to learn how good Bird was, fans, who don't know the game how players do, HAD to learn, too. Bird is widely admired;has been for decades. But, that was not the case in the early 80s. And, those who considered him "the Savior" had to learn he wanted no part of that hype b.s. And said so every time he was asked about it.
Luka is like Larry, both in their relative slowness and seemingly clumsy play, so I get Shaq's perception that he thought it was more luck than refined skill. When you watch highlights of guys like Larry or Luka, you're witnessing ultra refined skill that looks totally unrefined. I would root for Luka to reach any orbit of Larry's greatness but he's not quite there yet lol.
Pete Maravich is another who never gets his due. He played on 2 pathetic teams, the Hawks and the Jazz. By the time he got to Boston his body was broken down
Dan always gets the best out of his guests. The last year and a half though he's become alot more "crotchety". I still enjoy his shows though...most of the time.
I used to think it was some freakish luck too.....then he would do it again.....and again....and again.....game after game. SUPER HIGH IQ Many don;t realize it but Rodman was on that level too with IQ.
Shaq a guy who's job is to follow and know basketball didn't know Curry, Durant and lebron were in their 30's....lol.... Maybe he does think the earth is flat....when he said "I drove from Florida to LA it was flat the whole way
He also said it would only take a few hours to reach the Moon by airliner because he could see the Moon, but could not see LA from Atlanta and it only takes 2 hours to reach LA by plane. Barkley still gives him shit for that lol.
What if Shaq and Bird played together. We all know that by 1992, Bird was older and injuries really began to be a major problem for him , so he announced that he would retire at the end of that season. Let's say prior to the trade deadline. The Celtics send a couple of role players from their bench and their 1992 1st round pick to the Orlando Magic for their 1st rd pick. The role/bench players don't make the Magic that much better, and they still lose enough games to enter the lottery, but remember the Magic and Celtics swapped draft picks. So if Magic is awarded the #1 overall pick, that pick now goes to Celtics. Guess who the Celtics take to pair up with Bird, who now agrees to come back for one final season in 1992-93. The young 7 foot 300 pound monster from LSU. So now, with Shaq doing the dirty work. That makes an aging Larry Bird's job much easier. Much like earlier on in his career, Jordan and the Bulls once again fall to Bird's Celtics in the playoffs this time with a young Shaq stealing the show. In 1993 NBA Finals Bird gets his fourth and final ring as he bids farwell after the finals, and Shaq wins a championship in his rookie year as the Celtics sweep the Phoenix Suns. 4-0
It's all about how a man carries himself, Respect 4others Empathy kindNess Decency Patience. I mean literally, if the guy could sing and he wasn't so d*** ugly, he could be man of the Century!
Shaq won't let you forget about his 4 rings though. 😆 Barkley is sure to remind him that he did it from riding Kobe and other players coattails and Shaq shuts up after that.
Imagine if Larry Bird had his skill set and Michael Jordans physical body, or if Michael Jordan had his skill set and Larry Birds physical body. Would their have been any difference in career outcomes and stats ?
Good grief commonsense should inform you that nobody could be as good and consistent as Byrd was for so many years and dismiss it as luck. He's been a great player since high or maybe even grammar school. He was great at Indiana State as well but in the title game against Magic and Greg Kilser, I believe he was totally handcuffed in that his teammates weren't as talented as the Michigan State squad. If he hadn't gotten so homesick and ashamed of his humble attire at Bloomington he would have been the greatest player that Bobby Knight coached at Indiana including their undefeated season players. He said he and Knight got along fine when he was there but I think eventually Knight would have alienated Byrd and caused him to transfer. After all, hasn't Knight just about, alienated everyone? But I will say this I admired the respect Knight always expressed toward Dean Smith who was a consistently great coach of my UNC Tar Heels and could have won more than two titles if he had been selfish and not told his best players to enter the NBA draft if he and they thought they were ready. And he'd also convince the NBA franchise to insert a bonus clause into the player's contract that if he went back and finished his degree work and get his diploma he'd get so many bonus dollars an incentive that most of them took advantage of.
@@iacoponefurio1915 You mean he wasn't as fat. Phil Jackson later told Shaq he was fat - slim down or else. You must have had your head up your arse. What happened your afro got stuck? Loser.
Luka is nothing like bird. Luka is a bigger slower James harden when James was prime.. anyone that disagrees just watch the tape.. same step back moves and pure iso ball. Didn’t work for Huston and sure doesn’t look like it’s working for Dallas
I think outside of MJ Bird was the greatest player, and definitely the highest basketball IQ of all time Shaq isn't the brightest bulb but he knows better than this Bird beat EVERYONE..
Shaq is a prime example of how a going to college can not make you smart. I think hes a great guy and does a ton of charity for kids, but his light bulb is 25 watts at best.
Luka really isn't like Bird much at all though. Luka has a higher scoring average, but he's not as efficient. He's not as good on defense. Luka isn't a great shooter. He's not going to win a 3 point contest.
Just another reason to look at O'Neal for who he is. It wasn't mentioned in this particular conversation, but he's done it in many others when talking about bird, and that is birds skin pigmentation. I do not believe him when he says he hated him cause he thought he was just lucky. Nobody stays that lucky for that long. No sir, he hated him cause he was white and good, but he stops short of going that far. Think about it, if you buy oneals "lucky" statement, then you'd have to believe that he is the most stupid person to ever exist because again someone might have a lucky shot or a lucky game, but a lucky career??? Really shaq?
Larry Bird was a very good Basketball player. The reality is "NO" one would be discussing the Fact that Larry Bird was a very good Basketball player if Larry Bird was NOT WHITE! This proves racism is just wrong on so many levels. Case in point Mac McClung. If Mac McClung was NOT a White Basketball Player he would have NEVER left GeorgeTown University. If he was NOT a White Basketball Player he would have been picked up before the Dunk Contest because he had already proved to anyone that he could play. Yes that is me and I am very black. I would ask anyone will there ever be a time when people can just be people?
You are simply wrong. He was thought about as slow, low jumping and unathletic because he was white. He led the break, dunked, and blocked shots while shooting like Steph. He was a bigger player than anyone thinks now. You are the racist buddy.
@@anthonybarnes7545 Dude I am Agreeing with you. My point is this kid would have gotten a better look in college and in the draft he was Not white. FYI Racism is an Institution not an Individual feeling. Individual feeling as called Bigots. Also learn to read better before drawing the WRONG conclusion.
Here is the list of NBA players who averaged 24/10/6 for their career: Larry Bird End of list. Here is Larry Bird’s MVP vote ranks from ‘80 to ‘88: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd You’re looking at one of the all-time great talents in NBA history. Longevity/injuries are the only thing that keeps him from the GOAT conversation. To say he was good bc he is white is one of the most absurdly dumbest things that anyone could say.
Larry Bird was DEFINITELY the real deal. ✌
There is a video out in video land where Isiah Thomas said, "If you were to put Larry, Michael, Magic, and me in a room, the only one walking out of there is Larry Bird."
do you know where i could find that video?
@@krystofkotasek7110 Zeke said that with Bird present. I think it's TNT, with Isiah Thomas, Reggie Miller and Bird reminiscing about Indiana. Incredible watch.
Larry bird is an assassin of the highest order. There is nothing over rated about Larry Bird.
Larry Bird- the greatest SF to ever play the game and a top 5 overall greatest player
You nailed it. And if he had all those Nike commercials and his name on many other products what would people be calling him.
top 10
@@jerrytoombs5353 he’s 4th all time only behind Jordan, Kareem and Kobe
I was one of the lucky ones to witness Larry Bird play. I grew up in Boston in the 80s and the Celtics have been my team since. One of the greatest players to ever grace the court period.
I was living in the Detroit area during the Bad Boys era and was neutral. I went to every Celtics-Pistons game I was able to. It was hilarious to see Bird burning the Pistons after Isiah Thomas said if Bird were black he would be just another player.
Amen!
Honestly, if there was a draft today to start a team and I was a GM...Larry Bird would be my first choice over everyone who has ever played in the NBA...and it would be an easy choice for me.
I agree, because the goal is to win
@@scottstewart5784 it would be hard to pass on Bird but, I’d probably take Pete Maravich. (I realize I could get Maravich in later rounds but, I think Pete was the best basketball player I ever saw, so I’m not taking the risk)
@@c2itccase9 I think he would be available in the second round, but you're right, if he's your guy, he's your guy.
I’ve said this very same thing. Bird over everyone
@@c2itccase9: Yeah, Pistol Pete is known to a lot of basketball fans, but he definitely deserves top recognition. Outstanding team player.
Won three straight MVP's when Jordon and Magic Johnson was playing.
Everyone relax.. take a deep breath and say it with me. “Larry, Larry, Larry”
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Bird in top 5 of all time !
MJ..Bird..West..Russell and Pistol Pete
My image of bird is him hitting dagger after dagger, high-fiving his teammates as he heads to the bench because the other team has to call timeout to cool him off
I’d like to preface this by saying that I played basketball in NYC in an all black high school and got my nick name from the brothers playing at The Cage and at Rucker Park. We were all trying to emulate what Larry bird was doing on the playground and it was impossible for us. However, I remember hearing what Pat Riley said, “If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game, I’d choose Michael Jordan, but if I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life, I’d take Larry Bird."
Could you imagine what Bird would be like in today’s NBA? LB doesn’t get recognized enough for the physicality of his game fr
Can you imagine Labron in those days……. He would be on the disabled list!!
To be clear Labron is on the sidelines when he has a hangnail!
"Labron," Beowulf? Never heard of him.
Larry-True GOAT
Larry Bird is the greatest SF ever.
Shaq missed as many shots that Larry made in his sleep .
I think it's impossible to rate the best player ever--across positions, eras, different rules, different opponents, it's just so hard to assess. That said if I had to put together an all-time starting five, I'd go Magic, Jordan, Bird, Tim Duncan, and Hakeem Olajuwon. And if you needed someone to take a shot to save your life--much as I love MJ--you'd have to go with Bird. The best clutch shooter, and maybe clutch player, of all time.
It's amazing how so many Michael Jordan fans like you are not able to recognize that they have a bias for a certain time.
Wilt Chamberlain needs to be on that team. His talent and all time great athletic abilities make Wilt a player that would dominate in ANY ERA. And Bird today? Larry Legend would average a triple double and I estimate he would do it scoring 37ppg, and I can't imagine a healthy Bird team winning less than 65 games today.
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Wow I like your lineup. Except magic at point
Bird said Shaq was the best player even before he got in NBA...greatness knows greatness
Well, I agree with Bird alot but he is wrong on this.. Shaq was overrated, mainly a big lug.. he was a defensive liability, he was pulled late in games because of his poor FT shooting.. he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn outside of 8 ft, his only move was backing people down with his big rear end which was charging and was never called...his only shot was a dunk, he couldn't run the break, he didn't get back on defense..he was monumentally overrated
@@mitchelll3879 shaq is the only player besides mj to win 3 straight finals mvps
4 rings
5 nba finals appearances in 7 seasons
Shaq could’ve been the goat if he had the work ethic
He was just saying that to give Reggie Miller something to talk about, and then he added “after he’s in the league a couple years.”I mean Jordan was the current MVP when bird said that, he obviously didn’t think college Shaq was better than prime Jordan lol
THE GAME BACK THEN WAS A STREET FIGHT ...... and a smart, talented, psycho using psychology and then outworking, out passing, out-shooting and pulling THREE IN ROW = in Three Point Contest as well as MVP ...... leaves NO DOUBT who he was .... Larry Legend !!! (* And I am a Knicks fan, Yankee Fan, so you know I was won over with some scrutiny !!!)
Doncic has nowhere near the killer instinct that Bird had.
You're right it's a silly comprison. People are just lazy about it because well, they're both white and good, so he's goota be like Larry Bird lol. Bird is by far a better free throw shooter, 3 point shooter, and just shooter in general. One key area people ALWAYS leave out, is that Bird was a pretty good defender, certainly better than Luka. Bird was also a better rebounder. The only area where maybe, maybe Luka is better would be passing.
@@tommyrex6648Lol. Bird is a top 3 passer. Best passing forward ever easily.
Listened to Barkley on Conan O'Briens podcast and he won't let anyone forget that Shaq thought the Moon was not as far as a flight from Atlanta to LA because he can see the Moon but not LA from where he was standing. Saw him say it too on Inside the NBA on TNT and he sincerely believed that. Sometimes I question Shaq's Doctorate. Even non basketball watchers and players can tell when someone is really good. Shaq was just hating.
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Young and stupid
Gee willivkers that is rare grandma
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He paid for the Doctorate! LOL
Yeah but he admits being wrong that tells what type of man he realy is. To call him a hater for that is crazy
@@ronbonora7872 golf clap!
Shaq u is lucky,you just tall
OH give me a break!!Bird scored 24.3 points per game in his career on a .496 field goal percentage, an .886 free throw percentage, and a .376 percentage on three-point shots. Plus 10.0 rebounds per game for his career and 6.3 assists. No one who also played the same sport is that dumb to think Bird was just lucky. The young Shaq just couldn't stand the fact Bird was that good....PERIOD!!
Shaq has a very sensitive ego. Guys like larry are experts at crushing that stuff. I would have loved to see them both on the court. Shaq would get sooky when his ego gets busted. And larry would not back down.
@@adamboylan2307 I was playing a ton of pickup games in the 80s. A lot of times I was the only white guy on the court. 90% of the discussions I overheard between those games was about Larry Bird. I can truly attest that Bird was the most talked about player at the time. The angst that he caused among the bros was unbelievable to listen to.
It was 95% skill and 5% athletic ability with Bird.
@@wespaul633 over the years there have been a few white players that all the black fans and players had a ton of respect for... Besides bird there was Jerry west.. John havlicek.. Rick Barry.. pistol Pete and afew others... These were some bad men
For a guy who is based in his physical qualities to dominate it was hard to accept a "normal" guy doing everything great.
Many of the comments I'm reading about Shaq's EARLY opinion of Bird, make me think folks weren't paying attention to what he said. A lot of folks weren't fans of Bird in the 80s and 90s;" White Savior"; " can't jump";"can't run";"overhyped". I was a fan of HIS...not Boston...and had numerous arguments about him with friends. They'd say I fell for the hype. I told them,..".what happens on the court will tell if you can actually play, or not. If he wasn't pro-ready, the players would expose him. And,...he hasn't been exposed yet. The MF'er can flat out play. Y'all can't figure out how he does what he's doing, because you're not paying attention to how he plays. Pay attention to his SKILLS." They'd look at me like I was a fool. Over time, each of 'em would tell me I was right.
Shaq had the "lucky" opinion when he was younger, and changed it a few years after;he said it. Weren't people paying attention ? If NBA PLAYERS had to learn how good Bird was, fans, who don't know the game how players do, HAD to learn, too. Bird is widely admired;has been for decades. But, that was not the case in the early 80s. And, those who considered him "the Savior" had to learn he wanted no part of that hype b.s. And said so every time he was asked about it.
Luka is like Larry, both in their relative slowness and seemingly clumsy play, so I get Shaq's perception that he thought it was more luck than refined skill. When you watch highlights of guys like Larry or Luka, you're witnessing ultra refined skill that looks totally unrefined. I would root for Luka to reach any orbit of Larry's greatness but he's not quite there yet lol.
LD simply doesn't possess the overall skillset of LB....
@@coreyzimmerman9782 Larry was an outstanding hustler, rebounder, leader, his basketball IQ was off the charts.
Pete Maravich is another who never gets his due.
He played on 2 pathetic teams, the Hawks and the Jazz.
By the time he got to Boston his body was broken down
Maravich and Bird are leagues apart. Bird was infinitely better
Dan always gets the best out of his guests. The last year and a half though he's become alot more "crotchety". I still enjoy his shows though...most of the time.
I get that from Dan right from the start. It's really just the subject that holds my interest.
I used to think it was some freakish luck too.....then he would do it again.....and again....and again.....game after game. SUPER HIGH IQ
Many don;t realize it but Rodman was on that level too with IQ.
Imagine the combination of Larry and Rodman on the same team. That would be something. Same drive to win, unparalleled team mentality.
How could one possibly confuse luck with skill?? Larry Bird was so good that it could have never been luck.
Shaq's got marbles in his mouth and head
Bird would dominate today in today's game no doubt about it
LB!! i still can't understand Shaq coz he mumbles
Luck is Linsanity, when he went crazy with nothing to hold him back. Bird was consistently good, so it definently wasn't luck.
It can only be luck so many times before you have to acknowledge the skill.
Honestly, ridiculous comment.
The Celtics had nine banners in the Garden before anyone even knew what basketball was ...
Shaq a guy who's job is to follow and know basketball didn't know Curry, Durant and lebron were in their 30's....lol.... Maybe he does think the earth is flat....when he said "I drove from Florida to LA it was flat the whole way
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He also said it would only take a few hours to reach the Moon by airliner because he could see the Moon, but could not see LA from Atlanta and it only takes 2 hours to reach LA by plane. Barkley still gives him shit for that lol.
What if Shaq and Bird played together. We all know that by 1992, Bird was older and injuries really began to be a major problem for him , so he announced that he would retire at the end of that season.
Let's say prior to the trade deadline. The Celtics send a couple of role players from their bench and their 1992 1st round pick to the Orlando Magic for their 1st rd pick. The role/bench players don't make the Magic that much better, and they still lose enough games to enter the lottery, but remember the Magic and Celtics swapped draft picks. So if Magic is awarded the #1 overall pick, that pick now goes to Celtics.
Guess who the Celtics take to pair up with Bird, who now agrees to come back for one final season in 1992-93. The young 7 foot 300 pound monster from LSU.
So now, with Shaq doing the dirty work. That makes an aging Larry Bird's job much easier. Much like earlier on in his career, Jordan and the Bulls once again fall to Bird's Celtics in the playoffs this time with a young Shaq stealing the show.
In 1993 NBA Finals Bird gets his fourth and final ring as he bids farwell after the finals, and Shaq wins a championship in his rookie year as the Celtics sweep the Phoenix Suns. 4-0
The audio track needs some attention! That’s Shaq! Come on!
It's all about how a man carries himself, Respect 4others Empathy kindNess Decency Patience. I mean literally, if the guy could sing and he wasn't so d*** ugly, he could be man of the Century!
Shaq was not a top 50 player when he was awarded that title. Sure he was by the time he retired but not when he got that title. Pure NBA marketing
typical corporatism..
@Myron Williams a big fat check?
Or close to true. Shaq was top 50 the minute he walked into the league. He was an MVP candidate his rookie year
Shaq won't let you forget about his 4 rings though. 😆 Barkley is sure to remind him that he did it from riding Kobe and other players coattails and Shaq shuts up after that.
However you want to see it, so in the end they got it right.
Bird was the same age as Lucas when he was at his best. It's fair to compare them.
Shaq actually played for the Celtics, I'd love to see him and larry legend in the same room
Luka is probably the closest thing we'll ever have to Larry Legend. I just wish he did better in the playoffs. He's still young, though.
Imagine if Larry Bird had his skill set and Michael Jordans physical body, or if Michael Jordan had his skill set and Larry Birds physical body. Would their have been any difference in career outcomes and stats ?
Good grief commonsense should inform you that nobody could be as good and consistent as Byrd was for so many years and dismiss it as luck. He's been a great player since high or maybe even grammar school. He was great at Indiana State as well but in the title game against Magic and Greg Kilser, I believe he was totally handcuffed in that his teammates weren't as talented as the Michigan State squad. If he hadn't gotten so homesick and ashamed of his humble attire at Bloomington he would have been the greatest player that Bobby Knight coached at Indiana including their undefeated season players. He said he and Knight got along fine when he was there but I think eventually Knight would have alienated Byrd and caused him to transfer. After all, hasn't Knight just about, alienated everyone? But I will say this I admired the respect Knight always expressed toward Dean Smith who was a consistently great coach of my UNC Tar Heels and could have won more than two titles if he had been selfish and not told his best players to enter the NBA draft if he and they thought they were ready. And he'd also convince the NBA franchise to insert a bonus clause into the player's contract that if he went back and finished his degree work and get his diploma he'd get so many bonus dollars an incentive that most of them took advantage of.
Who is Mitch or Mitchel that Shaw is referring to?
There’s great and there’s scary great. Bird had it and Steph Curry has it.
Why would you say he’s lucky because he’s white ? give me a freaking break
Luck? It was luck that fat Shaq didn't have a heart attack when he played.
He wasn't fat back then brainless dork hahahaha
@@iacoponefurio1915 You mean he wasn't as fat. Phil Jackson later told Shaq he was fat - slim down or else. You must have had your head up your arse. What happened your afro got stuck? Loser.
Luka is nothing like bird. Luka is a bigger slower James harden when James was prime.. anyone that disagrees just watch the tape.. same step back moves and pure iso ball. Didn’t work for Huston and sure doesn’t look like it’s working for Dallas
I think outside of MJ Bird was the greatest player, and definitely the highest basketball IQ of all time
Shaq isn't the brightest bulb but he knows better than this
Bird beat EVERYONE..
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In the pick he looks like Draymond green and lebron had a baby
Shaq is a prime example of how a going to college can not make you smart. I think hes a great guy and does a ton of charity for kids, but his light bulb is 25 watts at best.
Luka really isn't like Bird much at all though. Luka has a higher scoring average, but he's not as efficient. He's not as good on defense. Luka isn't a great shooter. He's not going to win a 3 point contest.
BS shaq is so full of it 😂
Just another reason to look at O'Neal for who he is. It wasn't mentioned in this particular conversation, but he's done it in many others when talking about bird, and that is birds skin pigmentation. I do not believe him when he says he hated him cause he thought he was just lucky. Nobody stays that lucky for that long. No sir, he hated him cause he was white and good, but he stops short of going that far. Think about it, if you buy oneals "lucky" statement, then you'd have to believe that he is the most stupid person to ever exist because again someone might have a lucky shot or a lucky game, but a lucky career??? Really shaq?
Larry Bird was a very good Basketball player. The reality is "NO" one would be discussing the Fact that Larry Bird was a very good Basketball player if Larry Bird was NOT WHITE! This proves racism is just wrong on so many levels. Case in point Mac McClung. If Mac McClung was NOT a White Basketball Player he would have NEVER left GeorgeTown University. If he was NOT a White Basketball Player he would have been picked up before the Dunk Contest because he had already proved to anyone that he could play. Yes that is me and I am very black. I would ask anyone will there ever be a time when people can just be people?
You are simply wrong. He was thought about as slow, low jumping and unathletic because he was white. He led the break, dunked, and blocked shots while shooting like Steph. He was a bigger player than anyone thinks now. You are the racist buddy.
@@anthonybarnes7545 Dude I am Agreeing with you. My point is this kid would have gotten a better look in college and in the draft he was Not white. FYI Racism is an Institution not an Individual feeling. Individual feeling as called Bigots. Also learn to read better before drawing the WRONG conclusion.
Bird said it was dispecful to have a white guy guarding him
@@justingreenwell9723 The fact is that is true. Especially seeing Black or Asian guys couldn't guard him either. 😂😂😂
Here is the list of NBA players who averaged 24/10/6 for their career:
Larry Bird
End of list.
Here is Larry Bird’s MVP vote ranks from ‘80 to ‘88:
2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd
You’re looking at one of the all-time great talents in NBA history. Longevity/injuries are the only thing that keeps him from the GOAT conversation. To say he was good bc he is white is one of the most absurdly dumbest things that anyone could say.
I’m thinking of starting a podcast….
Well let me know if you want to go on my program or if you want me on your program then .
Didn't Larry Bird once score like 15 points in about 3 minutes in an NBA game ?
Bird was better than you 😊
Whities on the moon yo you didnt know that young boy
bad sound an audio Shaq. The intervieww guy sound audio was great, not yours.
Luka dunked on my pregnant step sis " eye knocked her up" any who hes no regard for human life
Yep shack attack you're still the most over rated player ever and your still trying and missing those simple free throws.
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Wilt missed free throws. Nice try troll
Wilt Jordan Bird Dr.Magic
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To be honest I think Shaq thought Bird had white privilege 😀
looks like its on DSL
If Shaq was Barkley's size - he'd be packing groceries. All I have to say about this flat earther
@@maelguiraud3568 not everyone is as smart as you are, Mr. Door knob 🤡