Do bleeder blades inhibit rotation? I wonder if the amount of rotation through a deer would change if it was a plain single bevel versus a single bevel with bleeders.
@ you think a bevel on something that small is going to make a difference? Someone already posted on here that tests show they don’t. I thought someone else said the bleeders were not beveled.
My question is not do they rotate but do they rotate more than other blades? We know the arrow is rotating as it flies so I would expect all arrows to continue to rotate some as they pass through.
@@wvbowhunter1 not necessarily true. You are saying that 2 small beveled areas are enough to overcome the forces that stop a double beveled blade and the forces of the bleeder blades resisting the rotation? Hard to believe. Not saying it doesn’t happen but it doesn’t seem plausible.
Rotation makes ZERO difference. ZERO. Now... that's not to suggest anything negative towards the broadhead. It is a fine broadhead - no question about that. Rotation and single bevel and blah, blah, blah just happen to be the current focus until the next gimmicky claim is made up. Again, nothing negative about the broadhead - only the false claims about rotation being a significant factor. Rotating or not, it is still cutting on the same plane in either case. Whether it rotates or not, does not dictate an increase or decrease in trauma. In order for that to occur it would have to laterally damage the tissue it is cutting through, but it cannot because the cutting surface remains perpendicular to the tissue. It is the same as using a knife to cut a straight line, and a knife to cut a circle. Neither knife cut causes additional damage to the surrounding material. Only that which is cut is damaged. Run a corkscrew through a dense medium. Now take a nail of equal diameter that is as long as the length of the corkscrew if the corkscrew were stretched out and push it into the same medium. Now extract both items, and fill the holes with a liquid. Both holes will take the exact same amount of liquid. If rotation caused more trauma, the corkscrew hole would accept more of the liquid, but it doesn't. Compare this to a bullet. A bullet creates more trauma through a process called hydrostatic shock. The wound channel caused from hydrostatic shock affects tissue in 360 degrees. A broadhead will only affect the tissue it is directly cutting, and whether it spins or not, it can only cut tissue that is perpendicular to the blade. A broadhead does not, and cannot cause hydrostatic shock. RIght bevel, left bevel, no bevel ... no difference in trauma. You'll only be able to conclude that it did or did not rotate. Again, fine broadheads - no disputing that.
Your argument makes sense to me too. Can't see any additional trauma resulting from the same cut-size slightly turning. Any given tissue experiences the same sized wound. I think penetration would be more desirable than rotation in this case. If the rotation somehow increased blood loss, that would be desirable. However, I doubt that's the case. Beautiful broadheads though either way
Absolutely the rotation increases the trauma! These broadheads are the G.O.A.T.!
Awesome video!
Do bleeder blades inhibit rotation? I wonder if the amount of rotation through a deer would change if it was a plain single bevel versus a single bevel with bleeders.
Double bevel bleeders do inhibit rotation. Single bevel bleeders dont add any significant rotation.
@@Chestthumperoutdoors then how do single bevel main blades rotate? At what size does the size of the beveled blade make an impact?
@ you think a bevel on something that small is going to make a difference? Someone already posted on here that tests show they don’t. I thought someone else said the bleeders were not beveled.
My question is not do they rotate but do they rotate more than other blades? We know the arrow is rotating as it flies so I would expect all arrows to continue to rotate some as they pass through.
The arrow stops rotating once it hits meat, unless it’s a single bevel
I have seen double beveled broadheads seemingly rotate through a deer. Do you have a test on this?
@@goodtimekillers3262 if there are offset blades a double bevel will rotate.
@@wvbowhunter1 not necessarily true. You are saying that 2 small beveled areas are enough to overcome the forces that stop a double beveled blade and the forces of the bleeder blades resisting the rotation? Hard to believe. Not saying it doesn’t happen but it doesn’t seem plausible.
@@Chestthumperoutdoors yes this is a good point. I didn’t think about that
Rotation makes ZERO difference. ZERO. Now... that's not to suggest anything negative towards the broadhead. It is a fine broadhead - no question about that. Rotation and single bevel and blah, blah, blah just happen to be the current focus until the next gimmicky claim is made up. Again, nothing negative about the broadhead - only the false claims about rotation being a significant factor. Rotating or not, it is still cutting on the same plane in either case. Whether it rotates or not, does not dictate an increase or decrease in trauma. In order for that to occur it would have to laterally damage the tissue it is cutting through, but it cannot because the cutting surface remains perpendicular to the tissue. It is the same as using a knife to cut a straight line, and a knife to cut a circle. Neither knife cut causes additional damage to the surrounding material. Only that which is cut is damaged. Run a corkscrew through a dense medium. Now take a nail of equal diameter that is as long as the length of the corkscrew if the corkscrew were stretched out and push it into the same medium. Now extract both items, and fill the holes with a liquid. Both holes will take the exact same amount of liquid. If rotation caused more trauma, the corkscrew hole would accept more of the liquid, but it doesn't.
Compare this to a bullet. A bullet creates more trauma through a process called hydrostatic shock. The wound channel caused from hydrostatic shock affects tissue in 360 degrees. A broadhead will only affect the tissue it is directly cutting, and whether it spins or not, it can only cut tissue that is perpendicular to the blade. A broadhead does not, and cannot cause hydrostatic shock. RIght bevel, left bevel, no bevel ... no difference in trauma. You'll only be able to conclude that it did or did not rotate.
Again, fine broadheads - no disputing that.
I agree.
Your argument makes sense to me too. Can't see any additional trauma resulting from the same cut-size slightly turning. Any given tissue experiences the same sized wound. I think penetration would be more desirable than rotation in this case. If the rotation somehow increased blood loss, that would be desirable. However, I doubt that's the case. Beautiful broadheads though either way