You really took the production value up. I love how you are able to cover the same car but you attack each topic with a slight but new twist that still provides more value.
As a 50 year old woman who loves to drive a Manual... I dream of. Owning a Fiesta St.... Yes I do!!! Canyon driving safely.. Etc. But for. Now....i can dream.🙏😁
@@Ballsack44 I know exactly what you mean. There is something about that intoxicating scream of the Honda si k20 or the rxs type S. They definitely scoot and it would be very close as far as power numbers go. And in both those cases I guess you could argue those cars do have a nicer interior. But the Honda not having the hatchback is a drag. And the driving dynamics on the fiesta are at another level. The Acura might be closer (in type S form) having the big hatch area, but again, Ford killed it with steering/handling. Plus, much more usable rear seat room, if you actually need it. But again, engine/gearbox-wise, the 2006 gen si and all type S (especially refresh version) are killer fun in a small package!
I test drove a used Molten Orange Fiesta ST with the red Ricaro seats today and loved it. Before I thought the focus ST would fit me better, but I loved the color combo and driving. Tough call for me... the two focus STs I test drove were actually slower than I expected
Yes it is! I have the Mountune MP215 tune and some other mods...nothing crazy. That cubby hole in front of the shifter I use to keep the Ford screen cleaning cloth that came with the owners manual.
I bought a white 2014 FiST last June. Just sold it one week ago with 150,000 km on it and it ran like absolutely brand new. Loved it! The only reason I sold it was because I'm just not a four-door guy so I was looking for a two-door (well, 3!) mk6/7 GTI. Drove two of them, one with the manual, one with the DSG. And although the interior is obviously a big step up in many ways, and they have a quite a bit more room in the back, and are clearly more refined, they just didn't have that certain.....gottagosomewhere...anywhere...now! - feel, that that FiST has hardwired in their DNA. Ford knocked it so far out of the ballpark when these were introduced I think it caught everybody off guard.... At least in North America. Brilliant, bad-ass angry sea creature car!! So as of 2 days ago, I bought my new car. A 2015 FiST in a not so subtle performance (sonic) blue 😁. Yup. Back to back. They're that good. Oh, and this one only has 80,000 km and a sunroof! Go find one. You won't be sorry
I previously owned a Focus RS. After a month of daily driving I felt it was too hyped up. I ended up getting rid of it with only 2900 miles. I drove a focus ST previously and that car impressed me! It was used and 90k miles but 10k purchadse price not bad! I now have a fiesta ST with recaros, purchased for only 8k in Molten Orange from original owner. I think thats honestly the perfect all around car. I have to take value into consideration. 8k vs 33k for my RS and its hard to justify the 25k difference
PLEASE call or write Ford Customer Service. Tell them we want the new generation Fiesta ST and/or Focus ST in the U.S./Canadian market. If all their customers are telling them, they'll listen and bring us BACK these hot hatches. Thank you for your support in this petition effort!
I had a Focus ST for 3 years, then traded it in on an RS. Honestly overall I enjoyed the ST more. The RS only fun if I was doing track or autocross events and really pushing it around 8/10's or more. The Focus ST was a much more fun and overall better street car.
Fun review RR. As an ST3 owner it’s the Focus ST hands down for me. I can fit my teenage girls/whole family in the car for up to one hour trips. I sure wouldn’t want to go cross the country in my Focus with the family. That’s a bit to much togetherness for my Motley Crüe. Its a fantastic daily driver. You didn’t mention only 1.8 turns of the wheel lock to lock!!! The steering rack is fast AF! If you sneeze on the highway and you are not used to the speed of this rack, you could put yourself into the weeds. NO turbo lag. Incredible torque from down low. The turbo is super small on both of these cars but I never feel a lack of power in my ST and I have driven many 400+ HP cars. I find it amazing that the Focus weighs 3100-3200 pounds. Thats solid for a smaller car. The Fiesta is just cheap. Four lug wheels bum me out. The rims look cheap. It’s way to small. It’s unsafe small. I’m 6’ 1” and nobody is sitting behind me in a Fiesta. Its slow by todays standards. Every punk in any hot hatch is going to smoke you. I hear they handle fantastic and I have no doubt they do but for me I need more practically in my daily driver. The shifter blows away the shitty shifter in my 2006 Acura TL 6 speed. The “great” Honda shifter doesn’t compare to the FORD. My ST has 70K of Redline churning bulletproof fun behind her. The car is reliable as anything from Japan. Germany....HA! Don’t make me laugh. There is a reason everyone leases German cars. Nothing worst than an older German car with high 75K+ mileage. The Fact that Ford is abandoning the car market is a travesty. The next time gas spikes up to $4.00-$5.00 a gallon Ford will choke while Honda sells every Civic and Accord it can build. Bad move Ford. Some of us actually like to drive and don’t want a high riding slush box automatic crossover or SUV. Ford will have ONE manual transmission left: The Mustang. That’s it.
Thanks brother! I always look forward and love your commentary. You explain things so well in such a way it brings a smile to my face. The power delivery of the Focus ST is really wonderful. I totally get your gripes with the Fiesta ST. Thank you for your enthusiasm and support!
If you really think the Focus has THAT much more room in the rear seat than the Fiesta then you desperately trying to justify your expensive ST3... I've had both and both have shit for rear leg room... also, you are probably judging the Fiesta being slow by the completely inapplicable 0-60 time, people are hitting the 1/4 mile in under 15 secs stock and a simple tune can take off 3/4 of a second off that... I got the Sony stereo in my $18k Fiesta and didn't have to spend $25K on an ST2 for a bunch of crap I don't need either... Look, I'm in a group that is mainly FoST's, I like them too, but quit trying to justify your expensive ST3 by bagging on the Fiesta, which is an incredible value for what they are going for.
Great video as usual but you only do the straight line test with both cars - I would have loved to have seen you take both through the twisties and give your feedback. Also, since the price, weight and power are close, a comparo between the Fiesta ST and newer Civic SI. Shame on Ford for discontinuing 3 great and affordable driver' s cars.
I also would have loved to take them on some twisty roads. Florida is one of the worst places in the country when it comes to twisty roads. It's about 40 mins from Walker Ford to the closest twisty road. Just based on my little drive the Fiesta ST really feel super nimble. I would love to autocross one. I think it would out handle a Civic Si. It is a real shame that this is happening! Thank you for your comments!
I watched this video when it was posted and looked at both the Fiesta ST and the Focus ST after seeing this. After driving them both I didn't like the position of the shifter in the Focus because I had to bend my wrist at a weird angle when shifting to 2nd 4th and 6th gear like the shifter was too far back. Also to get any options in the Focus the price goes way up. So I'm on my second Fiesta ST my first one was a base 2017 ST and my current 2019 Fiesta ST has every option and yes Recaro seats witch is why I traded in the 2017. After driving one on the track at Octane academy that had Recaro seats I just had to have them. Thanks for the awesome reviews. Keep up the good work
Raiti I love your channel because I love your videos are watchable for hours and hours. I got a 2017 Focus ST2 with 17k miles for only $19k! The rebuilt title gives me full insurance coverage for only 83$ a month. If I could I would own both cars hands down
Oh and for all ST owners when the fiesta ST came out it finished 6th in the 2014 (only new model year is vehichle eligible for motor trend drivers car of year) and the drivers car of year isnt a bunch of average rides 10th VW GTI, 9th BMW I8, 8th Jaguar F type R coupe, 7th WRX STI, 6th Fiesta ST, 5th BMW M4, 4th GTR NISMO, 3rd Alpha Romeo 4C, 2nd Porsche 911 Turbo S, 1st Chevy Camaro Z28...so considering the closest in price is 4k more next 12K more and the rest run 55k- 175k for the first st yo be in the running let alone beat 4 others is well amazing...dont believe it check out 2014 morotrend drovers car of the year video on RUclips
I love my Focus ST - ST2 and I love riding it for long rides and it's very comfortable in it. I also liked the fiesta at the Ford Racing in Grantsville, UT, but, I still love my Focus ST instead of the Fiesta ST. I hope if people who want to buy one of these, you should do it soon because eventually Ford will not have anymore of these type of vehicles in the U.S. You should all get one because it's just an awesome drive and very agile.
Hey Joe.. I was telling you I wasn't in the market yet.. Apparently I lied.. I paid off my truck a little early and got into a white ST 3 June 15th.. Freaking fantastic! Yesterday I turned past 1k miles, I have been mostly gentle with it.. Getting some heat in and then letting it settle.. I am not a sissy when it comes to break in.. I drive mostly like I'm going to drive all the time but for the first thousand miles I don't ram into a car like I see some of these guys do in videos.. One of them was spinning first and chirping 2nd on day 2.. He'll be one of those that puts out a video on how the car fell apart at 7k and how terrible it is.. Wonder why?!.. Anyhow, loving the car, there is a bit of torque steer from 1st to 2nd heavy throttle that I am not used to yet having had a 90hp terdster with AWD for 330k.. Seems I forgot. I am not TOTALLY in love with the seats yet as it has already broken my phone clip getting in them.. Sliding over the bolsters is a slight challenge when the boys and company get smashed also.. I'll keep it as long as it goes just like all the others I've had. I certainly respect the fiesta ST but I just don't like the look of it.. Even tho it is TOTALLY better than a base model. So I spent more and got a beautiful vehicle.. It's REALLY fun.. I'm heading to Frostburg in it tomorrow.. I'll let you know how it pulls the mountains.. Ride on!
Hey Gary! That is awesome news! I'm so glad you pulled the trigger and that you are enjoying her. I totally understand how you feel about the seats. You will get use to them and they will break in a little like a baseball glove. It really has some grunt . You are so lucky you have some nice mountain roads near you! Florida is so flat! You better let me know how it goes.
Drove my 2015 Fiesta ST for 4 years, 93K km; loved every minute of it. I like to describe it as feeling like a motorcycle on 4 wheels! My new 2018: faster, smoother, quieter, better equipped, more planted, hauls like a freight train. Lovin it even more, but definitely in a different way!
For what it is worth, someone on the Fiesta St forum reports that Ford will continue with the Fiesta ST into 2019. Now I will believe it when I see it but, the scuttlebut is that they will be using remaining 2018 cars to finish it out. So, did the popularity of these cars change their mission a bit? Only time will tell :O
It's fully announced now for the FiST lasting one more year into '19... but likely it's because Focus production was in Michigan using more expensive union labor and Fiesta is assembled in Mexico (with UK eng/trans, both German design) so Ford got the Michigan plants switched over to higher margin SUV's and trucks while the Fiesta is made at a lower labor cost in Mexico (very similar "OK" quality on both), so it can be kept around another year.
They'll make the Fiesta into 2019. They're made in Mexico, and Ford hasn't decided what to make next there in Cuautitlan, the oldest Ford factory in Mexico. They'll even do an "ST Line," which looks like the ST, but has the standard drive train.
I have a 2017 Ford Focus ST in Kona Blue Metallic - ST2. I also went to UTAH to race with the Ford Racing Performance, and I went 2 weeks after I bought my vehicle new. I wish I had enough money to buy the RS as well. Maybe in 10 years or so, I'll go to Germany and buy an RS from there and have it shipped back to the U.S.
Nice comparison, between these 2 I would go with the Fiesta. Probably more fun to toss around! Price no object I would get the Focus RS. I did see an article saying the Fiesta st will stick around unchanged for 2019 . Also ford will offer a cheaper version with the st looks but not the performance.
Thank you for the compliment! The RS is a ton of fun that is for sure. I just heard that news as well. The problem is it's just another regurgitated Fiesta ST, while Europe gets the redesigned version. To make matters worse now they want to make a Fiesta ST look a like without the performance? Geesh
Raiti's Rides got a brand new one for 1900 with a 3 year unlimited mile warranty. Should be in sometime next week, gonna have them check the clutch and flywheel etc since that only has 28k on it (replaced when I replaced original trans with THIS one lol)
Great comparison video. I’m really heavily considering either of these or Honda Civic Sport hatchback. It’s such a shame that they won’t be made anymore.
Could never do a FoST ST1 with tiny-ass crappy screen and terrible stereo, so THEN you are FORCED to get Recaro's if you want the decent Sony stereo, BOOM minimum $23k for ST2 even with discounts... if they had ST1 with a $500 Sony system option for $20k I would have gotten one, instead I got my FiST with Sony for $18k, oh well...
Raiti's Rides or, just get a COBB accessport! That's what my plan is when I finally make up my mind between these two...been trying to decide for months!
Was interested on forward visibility and drivability performance reliability how well they drive on ice. If its a good looking car or not it dont matter much. How are those seats after a 12 hour drive? ..It might do 153 mph.. If you buy a new ford st ford will give you some track time on their track. It is not really useful if you only drive 80 mph...might do 100 mph. A few times a year.....How does that tubo hold up after 100k miles? Living in the rust belt will the car rust away in 10 years. Will the car even last that long? Test drove a st1 they were too pushy on selling it... Hard to say if its a good car or not... How much is insurance ? That Can be a deal breaker .
These are all very good questions. I think I would want to get out of any car seat after 12 hours and I wouldn't be able to walk right. The ST octane academy is there to show you were are the limits and capabilities of the car. It allows you to be a better driver and allow you to appreciate your vehicle. Insurance is going to have way to many variables: age, driving record, where you live, credit score etc...
Hala Heleu I live in Wisconsin, I purchased a 2014 focus ST brand new when it came out. It has been my daily driver for going on 5 years now, it has endured the salted Sheboygan roads in the winters. I am at 130,000miles now with her, one clutch rebuild and normal maintenance later and she’s still going strong. Smoke a Honda SI any day lol. With normal care, rinsing of the salt every 2 weeks, normal maintenance, ETC. this car is great I love my ST. As far as insurance, I am a 34yr old male and I pay $200 a month for full coverage. Hope this helps.
I am the 371 th like! I do own a June 2016 Fiesta ST 80 k on the odometer today. Right hand drive. Only 2 doors models available in South Africa! Thank you for the vid greetings from Pretoria, South Africa. Oh I also subscribed on the red button!
both cars need at least 20% higher final drive gear ratio. The highway RPM is too high, and MPG could be much better. (20% better). For the streets, the Fiesta ST tire is a bit low profile. Could easily do with an additional 2 inch tirewall increase. The Focus RS acceleration is pretty much similar to the Fiesta ST. For there to be a noticeable improvement between both cars acceleration wise, the Focus will need about 300HP. The 50HP it has extra with the extra body weight is going to make it feel pretty much identical to the Fiesta ST. The funny thing is, that owning a Fiesta, I don't think I can classify it as a sports car. I might have if it had 250-300HP. It's a great mix between fuel economy and fun. But the real fun starts with 1.8-2.0 liter turbo cars. Missing on the Fiesta: - A play/Pause button on the steering wheel. The 'voice command' doesn't work very well, and is a step in between. - The tweeters are too harsh sounding. - The stock seats are too high for a tall guy of +6'. - The cubby needs a silicone Sticky Pad, it can fit parking cards, and keys. - Steering wheel is too thin for me I needed to install a steering wheel cover, to make it feel more solid. - The accelerator (drive by wire) is too light on the foot. Driving highways, I have to lift my foot backwards constantly, to keep the speed. This causes aching legs after a few hours of driving. - They made it very hard to install even a subwoofer (compared to previous versions).
Hi Raiti great video as I am thinking of buying either of these 2018 models in the UK. Don't know whether you have them over there in the States but Ford now do a ST Line model over here and I nearly brought one yesterday until our daughter looked it up and said to me " Dad its not a proper ST you won't like as it will far too slow for you " Boy when I researched it she was right. I might be 70 but I am not ready for a mobility scooter just yet. Our last holiday in the States we visited your town great beach. Stay safe .Ted
If I didn't need space I would've gone with the Fiesta. But I got a st1 since I drive alot and tried out the recaros and it was a bit too aggressive since I use it alot of road trips. I bought mine brand new in March and already almost have 10k miles on it.
I personally own a FIESTA S 2014 it’s fun to drive and a year or so from now I wanna upgrade....which one is more reliable cause my Fiesta S had a transmission problem that would have cost $2000 to repair...got it fixed for free at a ford dealership...the fiesta s I have is automatic so that counts into the problem.
I like the look of the new Fiesta ST in Europe, but I can't wait to see how the new Focus ST will be. Keep contacting Ford, it'll be worth it if we can get the Focus ST here when it is released!
Raiti's Rides totally doesn’t look like much however twistees light weight bet you it won’t guzzle the fuel so long fun time. Driver car I would love to play with higher doller cars with a baby chair strapped in the back
I’m surprised to see so many people saying they prefer the look of the fiesta ST. I think the Focus looks much better. Much sportier than the fiesta in my opinion.
Just got a 2018 GTI SE but I was cross shopping the Focus ST. Ultimately I’m a VW guy and didn’t want a car they weren’t going to make any more. Sucks they are going to make crossovers / SUVS only.
With the money being equal, I would say hands down the fiesta is the better option. I am a firm believer in never buying the base model of anything. And having only cloth in the focus is a huge deal breaker for me. I need at least leather bolsters.
Raiti's Rides well like you said FORD is not making them anymore. So for me that means on to the next best thing. My lease is up in 2020 with Subie. I’m not sure if I’ll just stick with a WRX or a STI.
Awesomeness as always...noticed u were melting in the FIESTA 😥 next time when u do a test drive, point the camera to the road...gives a better driving experience for us...thanks
Had I known Ford would change to a nicer orange in 2017 I would probably have waited a bit longer for the '17s rather than buying my '16 molten orange. It's a nice color, but most of the time it looks red, and I hate red. That orange is so much better.
But they are the same sheeple like you who doesn't realize they are only talking about Fiesta's and Focus's with one crappy automatic trans, or ONE year of the turbo engine when it was new and then think all Ford's all suck.. this is why we can't have nice things, too many people over generalize and screw us enthusiasts over!
only owe 10k on it got 1.8% :) Not a new car on the road that gives more smiles and has better seats than an st3 best bang for your buck at 25k cant be beat think its worth a little more than 15k resale value at 800 miles on the clock and fully loaded st3 but nice try troll
The 2019 dealership order guide show no redesign as far as the current North American Fiesta. But one nice offering is Ford N.A will offer the trim level that has become popular in the Europe market. It is called the ST-Line and for North America 5,000 units will be offered. This specification does not add extra horsepower engines etc, it is an appearance sport package. EG - All new series for 2019MY, offering a bold exterior and sporty interior design inspired by the Fiesta ST performance model. The Fiesta ST-Line is for customers who aspire to the sporty image of the ST - but do not require the full performance delivered by optimized ST engines and chassis with sports technologies Job #1: September 2018 Limited Production: 5,000 units Plus Titanium trim has been cancelled. So 2019 Fiesta S (for fleet market only), the SE , the ST-Line, and the ST will be the North American's last hoorah.
Carl Warmington I think it’s such a waste. The whole point of an ST is the performance side. All this while Europe gets an all new Fiesta ST that is amazing.
Ok, so one gave the other a bloody nose, and the other gave the other one a busted lip! Just shake hands and remember you're family! Now, go out there and have some fun!
Sales of hatches must be real bad in the US for ford to stop production. I wonder if their decision is based on sales or market research. Shame you can't import your own hatches from Ford Europe and have them converted to US spec on delivery.
Raiti's Rides I guess in the US the SUV taps into the frontier, explorer psyche. The vehicle can take you anywhere kinda feeling. An SUV capability’s fit well with the US landscape. SUV’s sell well here in the UK but they’re deemed unnecessary. Most just get driven in towns and cities. Here in London we call them Chelsea Tractors!
step0601 that sounds like a great explanation but I really think it comes down to the mentality that bigger is better. So many of the SUVs on the market will never see anything but pavement. They really look like oversized cases. It makes me ill.
I agree! PLEASE call or write Ford Customer Service. Tell them we want the new generation Fiesta ST and/or Focus ST in the U.S./Canadian market. If all their customers are telling them, they'll listen and bring us BACK these hot hatches. Thank you for your support in this petition effort!
Wow, the U.S Focus ST is really poorly specced. In the U.K they all have Recaros and a bigger nav/screen as per the RS (facelift shape has the larger screen anyway).
I've got one, it's still a fun car. J-spec Mazda v6 swapped, maf swap and exhaust, otherwise very stock mechanically, options wise. You should find someone who has one in your area to test.
My questions are always left up to the viewer to answer. I am here to share the cars with you and I am not here to sell you on anything. I'm just sharing my car passion with people. If it helps people make more educated decisions then so be it.
You really took the production value up. I love how you are able to cover the same car but you attack each topic with a slight but new twist that still provides more value.
NICKY MGTV wow that’s really nice of you to say! Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and to share that amazing comment.😊👍🏻
As a 50 year old woman who loves to drive a Manual... I dream of. Owning a Fiesta St.... Yes I do!!! Canyon driving safely.. Etc. But for. Now....i can dream.🙏😁
i believe it will happen for you!
Did you end up getting one?
Get one! I'm turning 53 in 2 weeks and I'm on my second 😆💯
@@lancemannion4113 do you prefer it over the 8th generation civic si? I had one and loved the 8k redline but always missed the torque of turbo engines
@@Ballsack44 I know exactly what you mean. There is something about that intoxicating scream of the Honda si k20 or the rxs type S. They definitely scoot and it would be very close as far as power numbers go. And in both those cases I guess you could argue those cars do have a nicer interior. But the Honda not having the hatchback is a drag. And the driving dynamics on the fiesta are at another level. The Acura might be closer (in type S form) having the big hatch area, but again, Ford killed it with steering/handling. Plus, much more usable rear seat room, if you actually need it. But again, engine/gearbox-wise, the 2006 gen si and all type S (especially refresh version) are killer fun in a small package!
Bottom line? Both are great cars. Solid performance for the money. If you want more power, handling, etc., they both have a strong aftermarket.
Amen! Very well said!
I test drove a used Molten Orange Fiesta ST with the red Ricaro seats today and loved it. Before I thought the focus ST would fit me better, but I loved the color combo and driving. Tough call for me... the two focus STs I test drove were actually slower than I expected
Filthy Eskimo well I’m glad you are getting some seat time in so you can make the right decision. So are you leaning more towards the Fiesta ST?
The fiesta ST is a nice sporty looking car mate.Loving the Orange.Think the fiesta st would have the advantage on a twisty race track Joe 🍻🏁
Reflection Car Care Detailing it would be a ton of fun! 🏁🚀🏎
My Fiesta ST3 has a temp gauge.. So the Fiesta ST in this video will too. Its digital and reads 4 bars at operating temp...
Yeah I finally noticed it. I'm such an idiot and totally missed it. Thanks you for the heads up and for watching!
I luv my Fiesta ST, best sporty sub compact on the market. It's a special little car.
vivamia it really is a pocket rocket!👍🏻
Yes it is! I have the Mountune MP215 tune and some other mods...nothing crazy. That cubby hole in front of the shifter I use to keep the Ford screen cleaning cloth that came with the owners manual.
vivamia nicely done! You gave it a little more zip! That’s is a perfect place for the cloth! I hope she keeps giving you plenty of smiles per miles!
I have the same tune. Really woke it up!
Bongo Dave oh I can just imagine!
I bought a white 2014 FiST last June. Just sold it one week ago with 150,000 km on it and it ran like absolutely brand new. Loved it! The only reason I sold it was because I'm just not a four-door guy so I was looking for a two-door (well, 3!) mk6/7 GTI.
Drove two of them, one with the manual, one with the DSG. And although the interior is obviously a big step up in many ways, and they have a quite a bit more room in the back, and are clearly more refined, they just didn't have that certain.....gottagosomewhere...anywhere...now! - feel, that that FiST has hardwired in their DNA. Ford knocked it so far out of the ballpark when these were introduced I think it caught everybody off guard.... At least in North America. Brilliant, bad-ass angry sea creature car!!
So as of 2 days ago, I bought my new car. A 2015 FiST in a not so subtle performance (sonic) blue 😁. Yup. Back to back. They're that good. Oh, and this one only has 80,000 km and a sunroof!
Go find one. You won't be sorry
That is so awesome Lance!
FiST forever! LOVE my little smoke gray tarmac-gripping, corner-ripping road rocket!
His name is Franklin, and he’s my best friend 🫶😊
I previously owned a Focus RS. After a month of daily driving I felt it was too hyped up. I ended up getting rid of it with only 2900 miles. I drove a focus ST previously and that car impressed me! It was used and 90k miles but 10k purchadse price not bad! I now have a fiesta ST with recaros, purchased for only 8k in Molten Orange from original owner. I think thats honestly the perfect all around car. I have to take value into consideration. 8k vs 33k for my RS and its hard to justify the 25k difference
PLEASE call or write Ford Customer Service. Tell them we want the new generation Fiesta ST and/or Focus ST in the U.S./Canadian market. If all their customers are telling them, they'll listen and bring us BACK these hot hatches. Thank you for your support in this petition effort!
I had a Focus ST for 3 years, then traded it in on an RS. Honestly overall I enjoyed the ST more. The RS only fun if I was doing track or autocross events and really pushing it around 8/10's or more. The Focus ST was a much more fun and overall better street car.
Im a Focus fan myself
They are very versatile cars!
Fun review RR. As an ST3 owner it’s the Focus ST hands down for me. I can fit my teenage girls/whole family in the car for up to one hour trips. I sure wouldn’t want to go cross the country in my Focus with the family. That’s a bit to much togetherness for my Motley Crüe. Its a fantastic daily driver. You didn’t mention only 1.8 turns of the wheel lock to lock!!! The steering rack is fast AF! If you sneeze on the highway and you are not used to the speed of this rack, you could put yourself into the weeds. NO turbo lag. Incredible torque from down low. The turbo is super small on both of these cars but I never feel a lack of power in my ST and I have driven many 400+ HP cars. I find it amazing that the Focus weighs 3100-3200 pounds. Thats solid for a smaller car. The Fiesta is just cheap. Four lug wheels bum me out. The rims look cheap. It’s way to small. It’s unsafe small. I’m 6’ 1” and nobody is sitting behind me in a Fiesta. Its slow by todays standards. Every punk in any hot hatch is going to smoke you. I hear they handle fantastic and I have no doubt they do but for me I need more practically in my daily driver. The shifter blows away the shitty shifter in my 2006 Acura TL 6 speed. The “great” Honda shifter doesn’t compare to the FORD. My ST has 70K of Redline churning bulletproof fun behind her. The car is reliable as anything from Japan. Germany....HA! Don’t make me laugh. There is a reason everyone leases German cars. Nothing worst than an older German car with high 75K+ mileage. The Fact that Ford is abandoning the car market is a travesty. The next time gas spikes up to $4.00-$5.00 a gallon Ford will choke while Honda sells every Civic and Accord it can build. Bad move Ford. Some of us actually like to drive and don’t want a high riding slush box automatic crossover or SUV. Ford will have ONE manual transmission left: The Mustang. That’s it.
Thanks brother! I always look forward and love your commentary. You explain things so well in such a way it brings a smile to my face. The power delivery of the Focus ST is really wonderful. I totally get your gripes with the Fiesta ST. Thank you for your enthusiasm and support!
If you really think the Focus has THAT much more room in the rear seat than the Fiesta then you desperately trying to justify your expensive ST3... I've had both and both have shit for rear leg room... also, you are probably judging the Fiesta being slow by the completely inapplicable 0-60 time, people are hitting the 1/4 mile in under 15 secs stock and a simple tune can take off 3/4 of a second off that... I got the Sony stereo in my $18k Fiesta and didn't have to spend $25K on an ST2 for a bunch of crap I don't need either... Look, I'm in a group that is mainly FoST's, I like them too, but quit trying to justify your expensive ST3 by bagging on the Fiesta, which is an incredible value for what they are going for.
RIP hot hatches
At least here in the States. It seems the rest of the world know how great these cars are.
Great video as usual but you only do the straight line test with both cars - I would have loved to have seen you take both through the twisties and give your feedback. Also, since the price, weight and power are close, a comparo between the Fiesta ST and newer Civic SI.
Shame on Ford for discontinuing 3 great and affordable driver' s cars.
I also would have loved to take them on some twisty roads. Florida is one of the worst places in the country when it comes to twisty roads. It's about 40 mins from Walker Ford to the closest twisty road. Just based on my little drive the Fiesta ST really feel super nimble. I would love to autocross one. I think it would out handle a Civic Si. It is a real shame that this is happening! Thank you for your comments!
I chose the Fiesta ST in Magnetic
That is a wonderful color on the Fiesta ST!
Thanks it is esp with factory black wheels and red calipers. Mines is the 16 model too
That is exactly the way I would want mine! Well done!
Me too
MotörTallica 89 😎👍🏻
I watched this video when it was posted and looked at both the Fiesta ST and the Focus ST after seeing this. After driving them both I didn't like the position of the shifter in the Focus because I had to bend my wrist at a weird angle when shifting to 2nd 4th and 6th gear like the shifter was too far back. Also to get any options in the Focus the price goes way up. So I'm on my second Fiesta ST my first one was a base 2017 ST and my current 2019 Fiesta ST has every option and yes Recaro seats witch is why I traded in the 2017. After driving one on the track at Octane academy that had Recaro seats I just had to have them. Thanks for the awesome reviews. Keep up the good work
Raiti I love your channel because I love your videos are watchable for hours and hours.
I got a 2017 Focus ST2 with 17k miles for only $19k! The rebuilt title gives me full insurance coverage for only 83$ a month. If I could I would own both cars hands down
Oh and for all ST owners when the fiesta ST came out it finished 6th in the 2014 (only new model year is vehichle eligible for motor trend drivers car of year) and the drivers car of year isnt a bunch of average rides 10th VW GTI, 9th BMW I8, 8th Jaguar F type R coupe, 7th WRX STI, 6th Fiesta ST, 5th BMW M4, 4th GTR NISMO, 3rd Alpha Romeo 4C, 2nd Porsche 911 Turbo S, 1st Chevy Camaro Z28...so considering the closest in price is 4k more next 12K more and the rest run 55k- 175k for the first st yo be in the running let alone beat 4 others is well amazing...dont believe it check out 2014 morotrend drovers car of the year video on RUclips
I totally concur what you are saying! It really is a pocket rocket!
I test drove the Fiesta ST. It was a blast. I really enjoyed it. Almost purchased a blue one for my wife.
robert Lawson they are a ton of fun n. Very light on its feet!👍🏻
I don't believe there is a clear winner. You can't go wrong with either.
You are so very right!
I just got a fiesta. I love it.
Found your channel after your Fiesta st video a month or so ago. Loving the content. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for taking the time to comment! I really appreciate your support!
I love my Focus ST - ST2 and I love riding it for long rides and it's very comfortable in it. I also liked the fiesta at the Ford Racing in Grantsville, UT, but, I still love my Focus ST instead of the Fiesta ST. I hope if people who want to buy one of these, you should do it soon because eventually Ford will not have anymore of these type of vehicles in the U.S. You should all get one because it's just an awesome drive and very agile.
Samm B. So glad you are enjoying your Focus ST! They are really fun cars. My wife and I are going out to the academy at the end of this month!😊👍🏻
I picked up a fiesta st as my first manual car and it's a blast.
Congrats! You are so very right!
Hey Joe.. I was telling you I wasn't in the market yet.. Apparently I lied.. I paid off my truck a little early and got into a white ST 3 June 15th.. Freaking fantastic! Yesterday I turned past 1k miles, I have been mostly gentle with it.. Getting some heat in and then letting it settle.. I am not a sissy when it comes to break in.. I drive mostly like I'm going to drive all the time but for the first thousand miles I don't ram into a car like I see some of these guys do in videos.. One of them was spinning first and chirping 2nd on day 2.. He'll be one of those that puts out a video on how the car fell apart at 7k and how terrible it is.. Wonder why?!.. Anyhow, loving the car, there is a bit of torque steer from 1st to 2nd heavy throttle that I am not used to yet having had a 90hp terdster with AWD for 330k.. Seems I forgot.
I am not TOTALLY in love with the seats yet as it has already broken my phone clip getting in them.. Sliding over the bolsters is a slight challenge when the boys and company get smashed also..
I'll keep it as long as it goes just like all the others I've had.
I certainly respect the fiesta ST but I just don't like the look of it.. Even tho it is TOTALLY better than a base model. So I spent more and got a beautiful vehicle.. It's REALLY fun.. I'm heading to Frostburg in it tomorrow.. I'll let you know how it pulls the mountains..
Ride on!
Hey Gary! That is awesome news! I'm so glad you pulled the trigger and that you are enjoying her. I totally understand how you feel about the seats. You will get use to them and they will break in a little like a baseball glove. It really has some grunt . You are so lucky you have some nice mountain roads near you! Florida is so flat! You better let me know how it goes.
*Great review. You're way better than that Doug guy who I find so annoying. I hope your channel grows huge.*
I really appreciate you saying that! I'm just focusing on one review at a time. Thank you for your support!
Yes!! I agree! The hands-down BEST You Tube car reviewers are: Raiti, Everyday Driver, Redline and Savagegeese ⛽😁
Drove my 2015 Fiesta ST for 4 years, 93K km; loved every minute of it. I like to describe it as feeling like a motorcycle on 4 wheels!
My new 2018: faster, smoother, quieter, better equipped, more planted, hauls like a freight train.
Lovin it even more, but definitely in a different way!
Thanks for sharing that great input!
I have the 2007 focus st still puts a smile on your face 😄
It is a great car!
For what it is worth, someone on the Fiesta St forum reports that Ford will continue with the Fiesta ST into 2019. Now I will believe it when I see it but, the scuttlebut is that they will be using remaining 2018 cars to finish it out. So, did the popularity of these cars change their mission a bit? Only time will tell :O
Jim Haight I hope something changes. It would be great to get the new updated on they they have in Europe!
It's fully announced now for the FiST lasting one more year into '19... but likely it's because Focus production was in Michigan using more expensive union labor and Fiesta is assembled in Mexico (with UK eng/trans, both German design) so Ford got the Michigan plants switched over to higher margin SUV's and trucks while the Fiesta is made at a lower labor cost in Mexico (very similar "OK" quality on both), so it can be kept around another year.
They'll make the Fiesta into 2019. They're made in Mexico, and Ford hasn't decided what to make next there in Cuautitlan, the oldest Ford factory in Mexico. They'll even do an "ST Line," which looks like the ST, but has the standard drive train.
I have a 2017 Ford Focus ST in Kona Blue Metallic - ST2. I also went to UTAH to race with the Ford Racing Performance, and I went 2 weeks after I bought my vehicle new. I wish I had enough money to buy the RS as well. Maybe in 10 years or so, I'll go to Germany and buy an RS from there and have it shipped back to the U.S.
Samm B. I love Kina blue on the ST! That would be awesome to go to Germany and see the next generation RS built!🏁👍🏻
Nice comparison, between these 2 I would go with the Fiesta. Probably more fun to toss around! Price no object I would get the Focus RS. I did see an article saying the Fiesta st will stick around unchanged for 2019 . Also ford will offer a cheaper version with the st looks but not the performance.
Thank you for the compliment! The RS is a ton of fun that is for sure. I just heard that news as well. The problem is it's just another regurgitated Fiesta ST, while Europe gets the redesigned version. To make matters worse now they want to make a Fiesta ST look a like without the performance? Geesh
I put 100k miles on my fiesta st in 3 years. 2 of those years with 286whp. It’s a blast
Daryl rabara-brokate that is freaking awesome! Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Well done!
Raiti's Rides yessir, going to be turning up the wick here soon, unfortunately I’ve been blessed with a faulty transmission lol. Shrugs
Oh no! Please keep me in the loop and let me know how it goes!
Raiti's Rides got a brand new one for 1900 with a 3 year unlimited mile warranty. Should be in sometime next week, gonna have them check the clutch and flywheel etc since that only has 28k on it (replaced when I replaced original trans with THIS one lol)
Daryl rabara-brokate well that’s great to hear!👍🏻
Great comparison video. I’m really heavily considering either of these or Honda Civic Sport hatchback. It’s such a shame that they won’t be made anymore.
Thank you for the compliment and I totally agree with that!
Great reviews, the Fiesta does have a coolant temp display, it’s in the digital screen as bars.
What FIST years are the temp display available?
Great review! So informative and interesting, I just love love love your channel. Can’t wait to watch you keep growing it!
Thank you for being on the journey!
Lol saw the guy in the back with a mask and it made me think this was in 2020. Forgot this video is 2018. What a time we live in now.
That is so very true!
This had me change my mind on Ford a bit... Great video as always :D
Imlikethemoviesh thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
Always have time for your videos! :)
Imlikethemoviesh I’m very grateful for your support!
I picked up my 18 ST1 identical to this one brand new for 19.5k out the door! There are really good deals out there if you look around!
Congrats, you got one heck of a deal!
Could never do a FoST ST1 with tiny-ass crappy screen and terrible stereo, so THEN you are FORCED to get Recaro's if you want the decent Sony stereo, BOOM minimum $23k for ST2 even with discounts... if they had ST1 with a $500 Sony system option for $20k I would have gotten one, instead I got my FiST with Sony for $18k, oh well...
Bought my fiesta st brand new 2 years ago. 2019 in shadow black.
Correct me if im wrong but I don't think the fiesta st has a boost cage either like the focus st does.
Ford Focus St Freak no it does not. That is nice about the Focus ST you get the gauge pod standard!
It's not really a real boost gauge... Everyone who actually cares about a pod gets aftermarket anyway.
This is true! If you are supper serious and air/fuel meter gauge is really a must.
Raiti's Rides or, just get a COBB accessport! That's what my plan is when I finally make up my mind between these two...been trying to decide for months!
That was a top comparison video. I would take the Focus only because it`s bigger. G`Day Tom
gen3v8 I really appreciate you saying that! The extra grunt never hurt anyone. 😉
Was interested on forward visibility and drivability performance reliability how well they drive on ice. If its a good looking car or not it dont matter much. How are those seats after a 12 hour drive? ..It might do 153 mph.. If you buy a new ford st ford will give you some track time on their track. It is not really useful if you only drive 80 mph...might do 100 mph. A few times a year.....How does that tubo hold up after 100k miles? Living in the rust belt will the car rust away in 10 years. Will the car even last that long? Test drove a st1 they were too pushy on selling it... Hard to say if its a good car or not... How much is insurance ? That Can be a deal breaker .
These are all very good questions. I think I would want to get out of any car seat after 12 hours and I wouldn't be able to walk right. The ST octane academy is there to show you were are the limits and capabilities of the car. It allows you to be a better driver and allow you to appreciate your vehicle. Insurance is going to have way to many variables: age, driving record, where you live, credit score etc...
If these are your concerns buy a Honda or Toyota maybe awd. These are performance cars, not for people with these questions.
Hala Heleu I live in Wisconsin, I purchased a 2014 focus ST brand new when it came out. It has been my daily driver for going on 5 years now, it has endured the salted Sheboygan roads in the winters. I am at 130,000miles now with her, one clutch rebuild and normal maintenance later and she’s still going strong. Smoke a Honda SI any day lol. With normal care, rinsing of the salt every 2 weeks, normal maintenance, ETC. this car is great I love my ST. As far as insurance, I am a 34yr old male and I pay $200 a month for full coverage. Hope this helps.
I am the 371 th like! I do own a June 2016 Fiesta ST 80 k on the odometer today. Right hand drive. Only 2 doors models available in South Africa! Thank you for the vid greetings from Pretoria, South Africa. Oh I also subscribed on the red button!
No heated seats ok!
Thanks for being so supportive and letting me share this with you!
This is true!
both cars need at least 20% higher final drive gear ratio.
The highway RPM is too high, and MPG could be much better. (20% better).
For the streets, the Fiesta ST tire is a bit low profile. Could easily do with an additional 2 inch tirewall increase.
The Focus RS acceleration is pretty much similar to the Fiesta ST.
For there to be a noticeable improvement between both cars acceleration wise, the Focus will need about 300HP. The 50HP it has extra with the extra body weight is going to make it feel pretty much identical to the Fiesta ST.
The funny thing is, that owning a Fiesta, I don't think I can classify it as a sports car. I might have if it had 250-300HP.
It's a great mix between fuel economy and fun. But the real fun starts with 1.8-2.0 liter turbo cars.
Missing on the Fiesta:
- A play/Pause button on the steering wheel. The 'voice command' doesn't work very well, and is a step in between.
- The tweeters are too harsh sounding.
- The stock seats are too high for a tall guy of +6'.
- The cubby needs a silicone Sticky Pad, it can fit parking cards, and keys.
- Steering wheel is too thin for me I needed to install a steering wheel cover, to make it feel more solid.
- The accelerator (drive by wire) is too light on the foot. Driving highways, I have to lift my foot backwards constantly, to keep the speed. This causes aching legs after a few hours of driving.
- They made it very hard to install even a subwoofer (compared to previous versions).
Thank you so much for your great input and personal experience. I appreciate you taking the time to share it!
Another great video j will buy these over a mustang now. Especially after seeing performance where the mustang is looks mostly.
I totally agree with you Carlos!
Hi Raiti great video as I am thinking of buying either of these 2018 models in the UK. Don't know whether you have them over there in the States but Ford now do a ST Line model over here and I nearly brought one yesterday until our daughter looked it up and said to me " Dad its not a proper ST you won't like as it will far too slow for you " Boy when I researched it she was right. I might be 70 but I am not ready for a mobility scooter just yet. Our last holiday in the States we visited your town great beach. Stay safe .Ted
I have a 3door 2014 fiesta and love it
Ian in oz
If I didn't need space I would've gone with the Fiesta. But I got a st1 since I drive alot and tried out the recaros and it was a bit too aggressive since I use it alot of road trips. I bought mine brand new in March and already almost have 10k miles on it.
Congrats! I am so glad you are enjoying your Focus ST. It is so nice to have options when selecting a new car.
I've had both, the Focus just doesn't have THAT much more space, but if that little amount helps, more power to you man...
Daniel Brown this is true! It really is a toss up!😊👍🏻
Are Ford going to stop selling the Focus and Fiesta in Canada too?
Yes, in all of North America! It's very sad news!
Raiti's Rides ☹😭😢😭
I feel the same exact way!
Fiesta st by far
I personally own a FIESTA S 2014 it’s fun to drive and a year or so from now I wanna upgrade....which one is more reliable cause my Fiesta S had a transmission problem that would have cost $2000 to repair...got it fixed for free at a ford dealership...the fiesta s I have is automatic so that counts into the problem.
Thank you so much for sharing the story from your experience! I am so glad that you got it sorted out!
The masked avenger riding in the back of the Fiesta ran for the hills when you got into the Focus!!
I like the look of the new Fiesta ST in Europe, but I can't wait to see how the new Focus ST will be. Keep contacting Ford, it'll be worth it if we can get the Focus ST here when it is released!
Fingers crossed they would at lest bring the Focus ST over.
I just wish the ST1 had the larger backup screen, but I still love the Focus over the Fiesta.
I totally agree with you!
Hey paesan are the Focus door inserts like red lobster napkins?😅
I like the fiesta st nice seats I like the overall pkg lite weight quick looks like fun and so not civic type R bling bling cheap cheap.
Ralph Smallblock I would love to throw it down a nice tight twisty road!😊🚀👍🏻
Raiti's Rides totally doesn’t look like much however twistees light weight bet you it won’t guzzle the fuel so long fun time. Driver car I would love to play with higher doller cars with a baby chair strapped in the back
That is so awesome!
Mr. Rati, I like you and your reviews!
buildmorefarms100 thank you so much for taking the time to comment! I really appreciate your support!
I’m surprised to see so many people saying they prefer the look of the fiesta ST. I think the Focus looks much better. Much sportier than the fiesta in my opinion.
The Fiesta ST just handles better.
@@RaitisRides plus when you climb into the fiesta with the recaros, it's like your favorite glove.
Can you do a review on the 2018 Honda Civic Si?
Aldwin De Jesus yes I will get that together for you!
Raiti's Rides will be waiting for your review hope it will be soon. Thanks!
I will do my best!
Just got a 2018 GTI SE but I was cross shopping the Focus ST. Ultimately I’m a VW guy and didn’t want a car they weren’t going to make any more. Sucks they are going to make crossovers / SUVS only.
jtkent28 I can totally understand! Congrats on your GTI!
Is there a Fiesta ST & a Fiesta ST Hatchback? Are there two models?
One is a 2018 Focus ST and the other is a 2018 Fiesta ST.
Woooo ! I like focus st 2018!!!
RULO POPEZ my wife loves hers!
With the money being equal, I would say hands down the fiesta is the better option. I am a firm believer in never buying the base model of anything. And having only cloth in the focus is a huge deal breaker for me. I need at least leather bolsters.
dannypitassy very good point! Thank you fir sharing your perspective!
I like the base model seats more than the partial recaro because im larger
The question is how good are the in snow!?
MxShee01 with set of snow tires they would be great!
Raiti's Rides well like you said FORD is not making them anymore. So for me that means on to the next best thing. My lease is up in 2020 with Subie. I’m not sure if I’ll just stick with a WRX or a STI.
MxShee01 this is true! I’m hoping the redesigned WRX/ STI will be our for 2020.
Let's hope it's a Hatchback! then I'll check out the Subaru
Fingers crossed!
Awesomeness as always...noticed u were melting in the FIESTA 😥 next time when u do a test drive, point the camera to the road...gives a better driving experience for us...thanks
Joseph Espinal thanks for your great input and feedback! I hoping to get another go pro and have both!😊👍🏻
How come every website says the focus st 0-60 is 6.1??
I guess it depends on the driver mod. ;-)
Had I known Ford would change to a nicer orange in 2017 I would probably have waited a bit longer for the '17s rather than buying my '16 molten orange. It's a nice color, but most of the time it looks red, and I hate red. That orange is so much better.
Yeah that orange fury metallic is beautiful!
Love them both but would choose the Focus ST as it's bigger and more powerful.
I can't complain about that!
worth every penny, but why you walk away from indonesia ford? i still ride my 2014 fiesta sport even tough the parts has increase prices and rare...
It's a great car! Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Ohhhh you fought with your siblings,how nice.
Richard Fernandez do you have any siblings?
That’s the same wheels I have. I Heard that they’re rare except for the gold I heard the gold or even more rare
focus st3 pretty much 25k now, 20 for an st1
TheRealSh1zz4m tons and tons of great incentives out there. I was just using MSRP as a measuring stick.
They went down in value even more. Picked up a 17 ST1 with 19k miles for 13k cash
I take da fiesta st anytime but da focus are cool too lol
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one.
I did 153 in my fiesta st. So I think he's a little off on that.
How is the bolstering on the non recaros?
They are on the tighter side of things!
Getting rid of my Tacoma and can’t decide between these two! Gah
Focus is faster and roomier, Fiesta is more fun to drive.
The reason why people don’t buy ford cars is because of consumer reports, they don’t recommend any ford cars for having poor reliability.
I think Consumer Reports is overrated. Sometimes how the car makes you feel when driving it is important as well.
But they are the same sheeple like you who doesn't realize they are only talking about Fiesta's and Focus's with one crappy automatic trans, or ONE year of the turbo engine when it was new and then think all Ford's all suck.. this is why we can't have nice things, too many people over generalize and screw us enthusiasts over!
There is a temperature gauge
Thanks for the info!
Gimme the Fiesta 💃🏼. 17 City/23 Highway, sound familiar??..bc thats what’s about to happen!
You are hilarious!
Got a 2018 Focus ST
st3 for 25.6k on Memorial Day otd :)
Priceless i hope you plan on keeping the car until it is paid off.. the resale value is 15k trade in
only owe 10k on it got 1.8% :) Not a new car on the road that gives more smiles and has better seats than an st3 best bang for your buck at 25k cant be beat think its worth a little more than 15k resale value at 800 miles on the clock and fully loaded st3 but nice try troll
Priceless not a troll idiot.. i have a st3 as well and paid 17,500 with only 18k miles. You over paid lol
Priceless that is a great deal! Congrats! How are you liking her?
anthony frank the car MSRPs for $31k
I'm sure dealers will negotiate on these cars since they are on their way out.
amill1563 of course! I wanted to just go off of window stickers. There are incentives available on these cars!
amill1563 my wife saved more then that on her Focus ST3.
Would be cool if you could break down your car deals that you've done.
I found a left over 2017 ST1 and they would not go any lower than 20k
Yeah my dealership has about 20 of the fiesta and focus st so im a wait till the last moment to negotiate when they just want them gone
20:40 "slick shifting shifters"
Say that 20 times fast!
Re-designed fiesta st is coming in 2019!
The 2019 dealership order guide show no redesign as far as the current North American Fiesta. But one nice offering is Ford N.A will offer the trim level that has become popular in the Europe market. It is called the ST-Line and for North America 5,000 units will be offered. This specification does not add extra horsepower engines etc, it is an appearance sport package. EG - All new series for 2019MY, offering a bold exterior and sporty
interior design inspired by the Fiesta ST performance model.
The Fiesta ST-Line is for customers who aspire to the sporty
image of the ST - but do not require the full performance
delivered by optimized ST engines and chassis with sports
technologies
Job #1: September 2018
Limited Production: 5,000 units
Plus Titanium trim has been cancelled. So 2019 Fiesta S (for fleet market only), the SE , the ST-Line, and the ST will be the North American's last hoorah.
JAY KAY it will not be a redesign. Same exact Fiesta ST we have now but there will be a version that has the looks of the ST without the power.
Carl Warmington I think it’s such a waste. The whole point of an ST is the performance side. All this while Europe gets an all new Fiesta ST that is amazing.
Raiti's Rides ok, Ford got the playbook from bmw, Audi with their M & S line appearance package for non-performance vehicles.
Very true!
Ok, so one gave the other a bloody nose, and the other gave the other one a busted lip! Just shake hands and remember you're family! Now, go out there and have some fun!
James McClendon oh heck yes! They are both a blast!😊👍🏻
Sales of hatches must be real bad in the US for ford to stop production. I wonder if their decision is based on sales or market research. Shame you can't import your own hatches from Ford Europe and have them converted to US spec on delivery.
Yeah SUV sales have just taken over. Plus I never really felt like Ford has marketed these very well. You have to give people a reason to buy.
Raiti's Rides I guess in the US the SUV taps into the frontier, explorer psyche. The vehicle can take you anywhere kinda feeling. An SUV capability’s fit well with the US landscape. SUV’s sell well here in the UK but they’re deemed unnecessary. Most just get driven in towns and cities. Here in London we call them Chelsea Tractors!
step0601 that sounds like a great explanation but I really think it comes down to the mentality that bigger is better. So many of the SUVs on the market will never see anything but pavement. They really look like oversized cases. It makes me ill.
Thank you for the comparison video. But why Ford why!!!!! Big mistake to stop making these cars for us here in the USA.
I agree! PLEASE call or write Ford Customer Service. Tell them we want the new generation Fiesta ST and/or Focus ST in the U.S./Canadian market. If all their customers are telling them, they'll listen and bring us BACK these hot hatches. Thank you for your support in this petition effort!
Ford fiesta st has a nice bubble but dont like focus st it clumsy heavier and the rear to choppy
Sweet.....
alphazoom II thanks man! It’s always a huge undertaking to do two cars in one video.
Yea I agree.... Good job.
Wow, the U.S Focus ST is really poorly specced. In the U.K they all have Recaros and a bigger nav/screen as per the RS (facelift shape has the larger screen anyway).
alphazoom II I really appreciate you taking the time to say that.
Word Maestro do they have different ST option levels? This is an ST1, there is also ST2 & 3.
Fiesta ST vs. Ford Probe GT :-D
I totally use to love Ford Probes when I was a kid. Especially when they had the redesign!
I've got one, it's still a fun car. J-spec Mazda v6 swapped, maf swap and exhaust, otherwise very stock mechanically, options wise. You should find someone who has one in your area to test.
Tom is baby daddy material😍
Handles like a go kart
Don’t let this distract u from Brazil lose to Belgium today in the World Cup 😂
Anderson Rodriguez ouch! That’s big news!
Anderson Rodriguez who gives a shit. Americans don't watch soccer 😂😂
Eric D you mean futbol 😉
Neither because theurr being discontinued in 2020
Glubbdubdrib actually Focus ST is gone for 2019 and Fiesta ST will be one more year.
Man I keep seeing how cheap these cars were just a few years ago. I payed 20k in 2023 for a 2018 Focus ST with 53k miles. 😭
They're both 2015-16s with different software for user interface.. that's it
This is true, but in Europe they got a redesigned Fiesta ST and they will be getting the redesigned Focus ST next year.
You didn't actually answer the question at all
My questions are always left up to the viewer to answer. I am here to share the cars with you and I am not here to sell you on anything. I'm just sharing my car passion with people. If it helps people make more educated decisions then so be it.
I doubt that focus can go 150 mph, lol
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I appreciate you watching!
155 mph, actually!
Its a2600 lbs car a power to weight ratio =ass hauler
ST1 seats are complete and utter trash
Priceless it’s all about the price point. A great compromise would be ST2.
So you enjoy having ass pain after 20 minutes in those nasty ass leather seats? Fuck outta here gay boy
wrong bitch
Dude...do you have to yell all the time???
Lets see how they sound, er crap. 0_60 in 5.7, er no well over 6 seconds.