The Ford Focus ST Is a Great Bargain Hot Hatchback
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Today I'm reviewing the Ford Focus ST, which is a great bargain hot hatchback. I'll show you the quirks and features of the Focus ST, then I'll show you what it's like to drive -- and I'll review the Focus ST to explain why it's such a great bargain hot hatchback.
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FINALLY! My brother has a Fiesta ST and bragged to me, a focus ST owner, that his car had a Doug video and mine doesn’t. Thank you Doug for fixing that, you have made my day!
You can also say yours ranked higher than the Fiesta
You can say that it scored higher unfortunately doug (as much as I love his vids and his funny , enthusiastic demeanor) he's among the smallest of minorities in auto journalists that chose a FoST over a FiST, the majority enjoyed the Fiesta ST more and as the everyday driver guys said Fiesta finished 6th in driver's car of the year and the biggest endorsement was auto journalists who get to drive alot of cool cars for free someblong term used their own $ to buy a Fiesta ST ....however I must say my 1st choice was a Focus ST, but am glad I ended up with a new Fiesta ST.
I loved my regular fiesta but the lack of a up and down shift button is why I got rid of it. I want a transmission I can lock in gear and control down and up shifting. That's all the Powershift transmission was missing to make it really fun to rally and beat on in the back country logging roads and on pavement. That was the one thing it really needed.
@@stevenplaskett7728 my wife bought a red fiesta se with the power shift....surprisingly the non ST felt quick and handled very well but the powershift was crazy. If in sport mode it shifted better (not great) but in auto there were times it didn't want to shift when trying to cross through multiple traffic lanes on a turn (not fun or confidence inspiring )or would shift too early and leave a lack of power. The Fiesta ST with the strictly manual and 75hp 100ish torque gain over the SE made for the most fun I've ever had when it comes too cars. The 4k I saved between Focus ST price went to a custom exhaust, blow off adapter, Fiesta ST 200 airbox w cold air feed, upgraded intake, crossover pipe , turbo inlet, downpipe, short shift adapter, short shifter, various interior and exterior mostly cosmetic upgrades cobb accessport various tunes from different tuners. Now all of that can be done to the focus ST as well but my mods all together still didn't add up too the difference in price. Now don't get get wrong different dealers with different deals can bring the price much closer but what moat auto journalists have said is the Focus ST feels like a muscle car the Fiesta ST feels like a sports car and as weird as it sounds they say the Fiesta feel faster though its not. Most chose the Fiesta ST because it was more fun however it comes down to what you need it for .....Focus slightly nicer interior, more room more cargo space handles well more power than Fiesta....Fiesta way better turn radius , handles better, feels faster, overall more fun. So if it's your only car and you need the room Focis all the way, if straight line speed is all that matter Focus (though Fiesta feels faster and only reason it's slower 0-60 is not the power difference but that it requires an additional shift to 3rd gear to hit 60) if back roads and twisties then Fiesta if overall fun then Fiesta as well. As everyone but Doug and a very small minority of auto journalists agree. However you can't go wrong with either.
@@stevendobbs3568 I drove both (As well as the GTi, Type R, Megan RS, Focus RS) before buying my Golf R. The Fiesta is a *lot* better than the Focus, less torque steer, more responsive, more connected, more fun. The ST has the power advantage sure, but I'd take the chuckability of the Fiesta over the power of the Focus, especially since the Focus only has an open diff.
The wheels on this Focus ST are similar to the wheels on the Lamborghini Gallardo
lol ur right
Does the 🙄 in your opinion mean that ford wants to look cool by taking lambo rims
or that the gallardo wheels look so cheap that even a ford focus has them?
hahahaha damn right
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I was thinking the same 😁
"It's great! 6 out of 10"
"It's great! 6 out of 10"
"It's great! 6 out of 10"
Deadass kills me errtime😭
I know what was with that
6/10 is good. It's better than average.
I wonder if the objective of doug with this score thing, is to show how useless giving a mark to a car is. I mean, maybe I'm wrong.
But, when I see Doug enjoying that much a car for all its pros, and see the low score, I always think, what was the point? This car seems great for what it is, and the score just make it look insipid. Maybe there is something behind that. Or not...I don't know actually.
The problem is that this car is on the same performance scale as a Lamborghini Aventador SVJ, and the same practicality scale as a Sprinter Van, so an all-rounder like a Focus ST kind of drowns in its own advantages, its above average at everything, but not a supercar or a cargo van.
> Doug can't stop talking about how extremely good the handling is
> Handling: 6/10
hahaha so true
Compared to more precise sport cars, seems fair
I think he meant extremely good for hot hatchbacks
It's funny because he only gives like 9 and 10 to hyper cars lol, so a 6 is actually pretty good for an everyday car
Yeah I mean regular ass SUVs which are by no means loose still get like a 3-4. Doug’s scale is absolute so no normal car should really get above a 5 (ST being closer to true sport)
As someone who owned a 2015 ST, it’s really interesting to see how different the interiors were between the 2013-2014 and the 2015+
Right? I’m a ‘15 owner too. I knew I had to get a 15+ for the facelift as the exterior is more clean, but I never really realized how different the interiors of the pre ones are.
Man just the difference between the st1&2 and st3 packages were major. My local dealership had an st2 that i test drove but I didn't want the tangerine scream and wanted the upgraded stereo and hid projectors and the nav so they had the st3 drive up from a nearby dealership... And i really was let down by the center console. The st1&2 had more console storage and better placement of the cupholders. The st3 has nowhere for a phone or ANYTHING to go other than the cupholders.
The facelift was nice but they ruined the lower rear bumper cover IMO
As an owner of a 2018 Focus, I can tell you that all the pockets by the rear doors are for your children to fill with lego and empty juice boxes.
And you can never clean them out, you have to sell the car.
@@truantray 😂
YES! I have a 2013, and that’s all that’s ever sat in those little pockets.
Can confirm
I have takis sitting in mine. Unopened takis
Been driving the FoST for 5 years, best car I've had. The base ST trim in 2016 was so much cheaper than the computer screen ones. The funny part is that the plastic area around the 4" screen widens out gradually, allowing you to wedge your phone in there. Instant hi-res maps!
I might need to buy a second car and so far this one is winning. I have my eye on a 2016 ST3 with 34K miles. Charcoal Gray. It's gonna be my daily driver.
@@kingdavid52 that's the color of mine. Looks great in grey and also in white imo
@@derekgardin1512 I ended up buying a 2017 ST2 in Charcoal Gray and I freaking love it.
@@kingdavid52 yep they're great cars. Tons of fun and nothing but oil changes, brakes and tires.
@@kingdavid52 how much did you pay?
Also, you are WRONG sir, Performance Blue was NOT the press car color, Tangerine Scream was.
Someone said it
Doug and actual research. Name a less iconic dual
@@14s0cc3r14 lol you mean name a greater set of enemies
I am wrong.
@@wronggg LOL, yes....apparently you are Wrong. Hi, Wrong, pleased to meet you!
"You can't see the fuel flap"
Yeah it's that square looking thing right there
I know, he made it seem like it was invisible..
Stands out like a turd in a punchbowl
Ikr?
Okay, but still, he has a point in that Ford did a good job in making it subtle and matching with the panel gaps of the car. Maybe they should have made it completely symmetrical by putting an identical square piece on the other side.
@@DeliciousHotShmoze If they did put a square piece on the other side, then people will think it's a fuel door and complain that the identical piece doesn't open.
People don't like fake pieces.
Got mine yesterday. I don't have words to describe how amazing the ride quality is with the full leather recaros. Having driven shitbox economy all this time and then getting an ST3 from 2014 is a huge jump in my ride quality.
Not to mention this car has such a potent aftermarket scene and is reliable af. I have an aftermarket turbo and WMI on mine for about 60k miles now and it has never missed a beat.
Reliable af??????
@@fergar0206 their not reliable my friend was giving me a ride in his stock focus st with 50,000 and the motor blew so I got a fiesta
Yes reliable, mine has 96000 miles and has been tuned fir about 75000 of these miles and it’s been brilliant, few small things but overall fantastic. Owned since new
110k miles on mine. Literally zero problems. It shocked me how reliable it has been.
@@Nikeair0117 probably lspi it, super easy to pop the motor if you boost it in hogh gear too low. 100% most common reason these engines blow.
I have a focus from this era and I can confirm my butt can tell the difference between level 3 and 4. Absolutely love the feature 😂
Seconded 😂
I used to have a focus se and the jump from 3 to 4 was insane
3 is so weak and 5 so hot that you always gotta put 4😭
burglar: *breaks into doug's house*
Doug: *THISSSS....* is the 2005 Atchisson Assault Shotgun, and it is quite simply, the greatest shotgun ever made.
It was developed back in 1972 and has been in business since. It will do 300 rounds/min and has either 20 or 32 rounds in each drum magazine it is also-
burglar: u gonna shoot me or what
Doug: not before you check out this Focus ST on cars and bids
Ha! That made my night
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😂😂😂😂
Enjoyed this. 😂
It took a while to unfold, but it was worth it.
Check, mate!
Me:
Doug: THISSSS is a 2013 Ford Focus ST
'13 Focus ST *STONKS*
Me: NOOOOO
Depending on where you live get a fiesta ST instead.
Trust me the value on these cars will only stay the same or drop even further, especially if you buy a 13-14 . Bought my 13 for $14k and in good condition it’s now worth about $8-11k after only a year and a half
I decided to get a fiesta ST instead and god, It's so much better (drove both) .. Put a tune on the Fiesta and its already quicker than the Focus, plus the handling is also better from the factory.
If you’re located in Florida I’m selling a 13 st3
For reference I owned a 400whp focus ST and sold it for a bone stock fiesta ST because it drives that much more fun. I'm on my second fiesta!
I drove one for a couple years. Absolutely loved this car and never had a single issue. Sad I ever sold it!
I am driving one, and feel it still fun to drive and practical!
that's why I'm resisting my wife's suggestion to sell mine, I know I'll regret it
@@jonjonr6 sold mine to buy her a “mom car.”
“Ford Focus st: The most fun you can have in a car without taking your clothes off.”
... but it’s better if you do.
A good start might be for those members, teenagers especially, who lack a sense of decency and who are impaired by a high impressionability, saturation and sexualisation to have their commenting, liking and subscribing functions revoked.
@@enforcement2 My comment is a reference to a line in the 2004 movie, Closer. That line having been made even more famous by the two Panic! at The Disco songs, “Lying is the most fun...” and “But it’s Better if you do.” in 2006.
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Aside from the extensive borrowing of classic lines from cinema for their song titles, the emo band Fall Out Boy also referenced Panic! at The Disco’s reference by using more of Natalie Portman’s lines from the movie Closer as song lyrics.
But I believe you are correct. I should definitely have my commenting privileges taken away.
Good comment.
It’s a shame Ford cancelled its Focus lineup in North America, because they still make the Focus ST and RS in Europe. They could have done like VW, who cancelled the non sports trims of the Golf and will keep offering the GTI and R versions because they actually sell better.
Sadly they don't make RS anymore. You can only get ST which has 280 hp and FWD.
I bet it comes back full electric. Remember the UK is banning combustion engine sales in the next 10 years 100% battery powered only
@@stevenplaskett7728 Ironically, the current ST still sold in the UK now has a 2.3 liter, yet the "no replacement for displacement" american drivers can't buy it.
Americans aren’t interested
He's right, the driving experience is amazing. The ride/handling balance, steering, throttle response, and noise suppression but with a subtle growl is all well judged and sorted. I traded a BMW 335xi sedan for an ST3 have have zero regrets. It's the best driver's car I've ever owned, and practical and reliable. Yes, the dashboard is a low point. The only other downside is that I can't bring myself to sell it even at today's prices, so it looks like I'm a long-term collector now.
These and Mazdaspeed 3's are underrated for sure.
those mazda engines keep blowing up at about 200k (kms) tho
@@Born_Stellar not to mention horrible torque steer.
No one ever said in Europe..
@@Born_Stellar yeaaaa! Sure the turbo isn't super reliable but my friend and I have been restoring his speed6 and OHMAGAWD it's way quicker than it looks. 6 speed all wheel drive, what more could you want?
@@Born_Stellar I'm fully bolted on my 2008 speed 3 at 247000 miles not km. There many speed 3's & speed 6's still going strong. Depends on the owner.
Who is sad that the GR Yaris is not coming to the US, probably the most desirable hot hatch rn
There will be a GR Corolla for the US market coming later this year.
@@ultraguy8771 Yes and I cant wait to see it
@@ultraguy8771 wont be the same
Toyota’s GR division is planning on releasing a hot hatch specifically for the US market, which has the potential to be very good. I heard a rumor that it will have the same powertrain underneath, but with a Corolla body on top.
@@BarbWaltersMusic thats for sure, The Corolla is more heavy than a Yaris so if its the same powertrain it might be slower.
Bought my ST in 2013, still driving perfectly as a daily driver! Absolutely a pleasure to drive
I love my 2016 ST! Favorite car I've owned.
Honestly feels weird seeing Doug review a car I own
I have a 2014 Fiesta ST with the Recaro seats package, love it as a daily driver!
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Doug, there’s one cool quirk/feature that you didn’t get to explore. If you had your front windshield wipers on and shifted into reverse, the rear wiper gives you a “courtesy wipe” as there is no rear view camera.
It confused me why the rear wiper would randomly wipe until my wife told me “it only happens when you back up”
Paid 15,000 for my 2017 several years ago with only 1,500 miles. Cobb jst 91/e30 tune. Makes 280whp and 390wtq. Big numbers for such a small overall investment.
@TableRocked na probably not. I have all the stock stuff and it only has 30k miles
Yes!!! This is what I want to see!!! Actual cars that normal people can buy.
for greatly inflated prices on Caaaars and Bids!!!
I don't think they are. But the adding things do make it price but that's life.
Yeah but normal people don’t want this car lol. If so, they’d still make cars over at Ford.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 never said they wanted to buy just able to buy. Your addi g your own perspective to what I posted. Don't be a potatoe.
@@mattthrasher6050 thanks. Now I want french fries.
Doug will make the Focus ST appreciate.
As an owner I am here for that!!!
I love my 2013 Tangerine Scream Focus ST!
I think the massive front grill has kept the car looking fairly modern over the years.
Doug highlights poor interior quality
Owner: oh no
Yeh doug plugging his website again, telling us all to go look at this Focus for sale, then belittles it for silly things.
Dome light moulding usage front and back? what the... Vent control design?.
Then giving it low ratings. I bet the seller thinks he stuck the wrong deal here.
@@simonbrown3169 If he didn't find some things to complain about everyone here would accuse him of bias and trying to pump cars up for sale. Damned if you do...
@@simonbrown3169 Idk man. We're all adults. He values those things, I for one got excited that it's just a driver's car. It's made for driving, I like that! Not the best example, but a fantastic budget option if you're looking for that.
Anyone interested in buying a ‘13 Focus ST already knows.
I used to own one. Absolutely my favorite car of all time. Silver paint, blue recaro seats, and a small tune that would pump out 275 horses from the factory. LOVED IT!
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spot on Doug. Sold my 2014 ST a few months ago, and I truly shed a tear. Great little car that always put a smile on my face. With so much low end power, and a great clutch/gear box, it was never an issue, even in the terrible Southern Cal traffic I drove it in. Get one with the ST3 package (sunroof, HID Headlights, etc).
“The focus st are affordable”
*me looking in the market*
Can’t find a st3 2015+ under 20k
I feel your pain, a low mileage one in my area is 23k
Market is insane right now.. little over a year ago I got my 14 st for 16k and it only had 23,500 miles on it
I got a 2014 ST3 with 47k miles for 15,650. Absolute steal and it was (and still is) in amazing shape. I cannot believe how much fun it is for a similar GTI with less power you’re looking at like 23k
@@matthenekk when did you get yours? They're slowly creeping down to reasonable prices. I found a 2017 with 50k for $19k.
Oh I meant to include that, I got it October 2019 so going on two years now and it’s been great. I replaced the rear struts because it started making a banging noise over turns. Those needed replacing anyway but the real culprit was the rear sway bar links. Since then it’s been rock solid
Hey Doug, just wanna say thanks so much for doing this review. I was skeptical of whether or not to buy a Focus ST but this did the job, and I finally got one after so much work a couple months ago. Thanks for helping me on my reasonable dream car!
How much did u pay if u dont mind me asking? Im looking at a 2018 st with 60k miles for 20k not sure if its a good price or not with the crazy market going on rn
@@tristanhamilton6847 i paid 15k for 100k miles. I know mine has a lot of miles but 20k seems pretty average from what I’ve seen in facebook and groups lately. I would say look at it though, because pictures don’t show scratches. Otherwise, seems pretty fair and if you can negotiate, go for it
Enjoy the platform bro, I have a '15 st3 and have never had more fun with a road car, and I used to own an rs2000 cossy
Hocus pocus, there's pizza on ur focus
a man of culture i see
@@antonimodlibowski7970 uh oh
Abracadabra, if that owner finds you, they might stab ya.
@@ThomMurphy whoever throws the pizza
I traded in my Tangerine Scream 2014 Focus ST for a Nitrous Blue 2017 RS, and the only irrational thing that I missed in the transition is that silly adjustable ambient lighting. Changing the colors to match your mood that day is a completely useless, but endlessly fun feature that I wish I didn't have to give up.
What the heck, I love the large styling of the Vent Dials! And he outright rejects them. : ( GREAT video.
I’ve waited 2 years for you to make a video on the Focus ST. I love my ST
If you love the Mk3 ST, you'll love the Mk4 ST and Mk8 Fiesta ST.
Best in class! - Get your ass to Europe ;)
I’m so salty I can’t get the Mk4 here in Houston Texas. I want one in Orange Fury so bad!
We’ve got a 2018 Focus Titanium Hatchback. Great car. Would love to drive this ST!
I had a 2015, super fun to drive. I will buy it back eventually.
"Ford had no history of Hot Hatches"
You know Ford Europe has been making fast cars forever right? This isn't even the first fast Focus...
You left out the part where he says in America.
I think he mentions this if I'm not mistaken. As someone who has driven and owned an American Ford Focus ZX3 SVT, it left more to be desired but was certainly better than the base model and was faster than Civic SI's of the time. I miss that car.
@@USA_djhiggi77 I have a 2004 Focus SVT, and it's a great car. I love how it handles and how it shifts. Mine has the Recaro seats, and they really feel good and hold you in. I guess if they had wanted it to be faster they would have given it a turbo, but it's quick enough to be fun. It has variable valve timing and those intake runners that change over at a certain RPM to give you a boost.
@@MillionthUsername yep a great car, highly overlooked
Yeah they been had the ST/RS in Europe especially UK since 2002
I recently traded in my VW Mk7 for a Elantra GTS (i30 Sport) and man it is a great daily. Power is great for daily driving, has an awesome full stainless burble and pop exhaust, the DCT trans with paddles is great, and it has ALL the modern features to make you happy ( full panoramic sunroof, autonomous driving, Infinity sound system, heated & cooled nappa leather seats, all the safety crap, great cargo room, great sport tuned suspension I mean the list goes on and on. It has about 30 less hp than this but its still over 200hp and that's easily traded for its modern amenities and bigger cargo. Its really quick too. I wanted a Focus or Fiesta ST for so long, they're great cars, just not great dailys. More better for autocross or weekend ripping.
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Doug: "You better know how to handle a car with the traction control off"
People over 35: B*tch please...
Cars 15 years ago were way slower.
The ST’s will oversteer like a RWD car with the traction control off. It doesn’t plow like most FWD cars. It was a fun little car.
@@drscopeify We didn't have a nanny car watching over us when we drove on ice or wet pavement or mud or gravel or whatever with a RWD car. You actually had to fix your situation yourself. Has nothing to do with the speed of cars 15 years ago. Or 20. Or 25 years ago.
Great car if you don't mind riding the bus. My 2014 Focus has been at the dealership for 5 weeks with a bad TCM, and they're telling me it could be three months or more before they'll be able to get the parts to repair it.
@@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S my slave cylinder leaked had to have a/c replaced and misfiring all around 50k miles. worst car I’ve owned.
@@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S car was bone stock too
I have one in Ingot Silver. My favorite ST color is Tangerine Scream though.
And I had a Titanium Focus. Bro. The standard is even rally car like. Tight stiff handling. I mean bro. Best handling. and nice growl as you power through. Yes. Fords handling is getting amazing.
Love the review Doug but remember that it was Volvo who actually made the engine, not the other way round, the car uses the Volvo Modular Engine , a turbocharged 2.5 L 5-cylinder producing 225 hp (168 kW; 228 PS).
Not in this one. In previous one this have 2.0 I4 engine.
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@@zet1zet16 you are 100% right my apologies, but I am right by saying that Volvo made the engine and not Ford
@@LukeIyer98 Yes absolutely the 2.5 5 cylinder was a Volvo engine...and what an engine it was:)
The gas cap trapezoid is not just cooler and slicker looking than just a round or oval gas cap above the wheel well, in addition to being more stealthy and better integrated into the lines of the car. It's actually a design element carried throughout the vehicle. 11:55 the rear door speakers is a great example of this but the 3 extra storage compartments for rear passengers also loosely follow this shape as well. There are other examples you can find on the dash, side mirrors, front compartments, speakers, etc. Notice if you drew 4 sides around the ST logo it would also basically follow the same shape.
I have a 2016 model with the refresh and wow I never knew the interior was so much better than the 2013 models. Both the hand brake bezzle and the steering wheel cheapness is fixed
That borderline-obsessive preference for cars in their original press introduction colors is... a quirk. Of Doug himself. 😜
Every college town has that one guy with a straight-piped Focus ST with a burble-tune and aftermarket rims. (My town is “lucky” enough to have 4)
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If the auto transmission ever goes out in my Escape, I'd definitely pick this up. Same engine, same creature comforts (mine is a 2015,) just wishing I had a manual and better MPG
I was debating between a Civic Si and a Focus ST. I think i’m going focus
ST stands for sanitory towel ( Clarkson)
You should check out the 2019+ Ford Fusion. Just picked up a hybrid about six months ago and am loving it! If i wasn't in Northern California I'd say you could use mine but I'm sure you can find one down south
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last time i came this early my girlfriend dumped me
So sad 😂
Hi!
Please, PLEASE PLEASE somehow try out a fully loaded facelifted MK2!!! ST. If you love the mk3, you will be mesmerized by the mk2.
Not much worse interior, almost every same toys (The satnav is even faster), but the engine. OMG the engine. Mesmerizing.
In the ST communities Mk2 is all about raw joy, and gorgeous sound. Mk3 is better interior, and better cornering speed.
You can imagine how Doug would love the mk2 if he said, that mk3 is not so good in interior, and great at engine.
please someone give him. If you are in Europe, I have a fully-fully loaded Eletrtic orange one.
The Euro version of the ST with a 5-cylinder engine (Volvo heritage?) was adrenaline on wheels.
Doug the type of guy to review a modern car in a vintage t-shirt.
Dougs reviews are now just infomercials for his cars and bids business
My guess for the horn is for racing maybe lol?! So you don’t have to take your hand off shifter or wheel
was seriously looking at these, but went with a WRX lease instead.. but deep down I want a RS and hope I can afford one before they become collectible
As watch and listen to Doug talking about this car I can almost hear the owner thinking, please Doug stop pointing out the bad stuff, talk about the zoom zoom stuff.
Grammarian to Ford: It's not "two thousand & thirteen" it's "two thousand thirteen."
Doug, make a video with VW Tiguan II 4Motion. Maybe hard to find in US, but you will be surprised how this car performs on-road and of road. You must check the russian tiguan tests.
How many years until we get a Dougception, or Doug re-reviewing a car when it's becoming cheaper and more desirable that he already reviewed when it was new?
I‘d love to see a Mini R56 John Cooper works Review, it’s a direct competitor to this generation‘s focus.
I do kinda miss my Fiesta ST , hopefully one day in the future when the sheep stop buying useless suvs and trucks they will bring back the fast wagons and hot hatchs
One can hopw
You forgot to mention those stupid FWD crossovers, triggers me when people call them "SUV".
What are you talking about, the sport compact car market is as hot as ever in the USA. Veloster N, GTI, Civic Si, WRX, 2.5turbo awd Mazda3 hatch sedan or crossover, Golf R, CTR, STi, BRZ, GT86, Miata, Mini Cooper Works, Mini JCW GP, Veloster turbo, Toyota Supra. Then, soon to be released GR Corolla Hatch, Mazdaspeed3 successor, Mercedes A35 sedan, next gen wrx & STi, next gen Si & CTR, next gen Golf R.
@@copperkeyracing6167 None US made. Pay attention.
@@truantray pay attention to what? No one said US made? If you want US made just Google where each of the cars are made and you can pick a US made car. If you are trying to say US manufacturer, pay attention as Dodge is a French manufacturer now, not Italian, not German, not American.
I also never run the front plate and got the grill without the plate holder
Got one for $11,000 ish; was a great bit of fun for the price
I like this car. I'm a fan. I had a Chevy Sonic RS. It's similar, but perhaps a step up
The only issue I have with the ST cars is how bad the paint is on these cars. Many owners had paint flake away especially in the rear. Mine got resprayed under warranty and it came back to the same result 2 yrs after. Otherwise, great cars!
The focus st and rs are one of those situations where importing it instead of building it wouldn't have been a bad thing
10:55 Speaking of focus...FOCUS!!!
Chevrons on the door seal for fast cars? Citroen owners: 🤣🤣🤣
Doug is the type of guy to love every car ever made!
Zip it empty vessel...
@@RetroMMA lol
Just watch Maserati reviews
Regardless of the car, one thing will always stay the same: two t-shirts.
And. “THIS”
Also, “favorite” always comes with two index fingers. Edit: make that every 3rd word.
They don't call him 'Ole Dougie Two Shirts for nothing!
😂😂😂
That's the most un practical set up.
Doug is the soul of a six-year-old unwrapping a PS5 Christmas morning, only every day is Christmas and everything he touches is a PS5.
Tay! Awesome seeing you here, hope you're doing well!!!
Mr chocolate rain how are you
Side note: I hope the PS5 gets some better games than the same old first party stuff they had on PS4. Bloodborne and FF7R were outliers in a sea of dour third person action games that were still copying the basic gameplay mechanics of RE4. I think the Series X will be the better console for that Retroarch support, while the Switch has nothing but killer title after killer title.
@@12ealDealOfficial Just get DevilMayCry 5. Vergil special edition. You will NOT be disappointed
Chocolate Rain!!
There was slightly more crack in his coffee today.
You should see his Focus RS video
Being happy for an awesome car equals being on crack? 🤦♂️
@@bear2507 you know somethimes somthing IS A JOKE and / or a MEME . SO ITS NOT MEANT LITERAL
@@bear2507 no , your comment means being on crack....
Although probably not the abominable narcotic that you mention, I also was wondering whether there may be more emphasis to the gestures in certain sections of these latest videos or whether it might be a recording or a playback issue. I mention this not in order to negate excitement but because there seems to be something artificial, not to say disingenuous about it.
Doug just raised the price of the Focus St..
only for a couple months, plus stuff sells for really high on that website
Doug said that R129 is the last classic Mercedes and they are still dirt cheap
Doug is the kind of guy that knows exactly what cars I like and makes videos on them to raise the price before I can buy one
I know what you mean. Have you been looking at these as well?
As he's selling it...what a wacky coincidence!
The best thing about this little rocket is ... they basically go unnoticed by cops. It simply looks like every other rental Focus on the road. Thanks for the video.
Can confirm. I've driving mine 127,000 miles and I've only been pulled over ONCE. Last summer on I-87 approaching the town of Ausable. I'm talking the absolute middle of fucking know where. 80 in a 65. Oopsie.
Unless your a teen who puts a splitter and huge chassis mount wing on back and slam it on the ground lol
@@tim850csi you're a big boy now....time to get a big boy car ☺️
139k miles on mine, owned since new - never been pulled over
@@tim850csi are they reliable at that stuff of mileage?
Doug on Sunday nights: “Thisss, is Sunday night dinner. It is a 2021 dish of Spaghetti and meatballs, with garlic bread on the side. We will chew it, swallow it, then we are going to review it.”
@@deathsc0uthd825 💀💀💀💀
‘And im gonna poop it out and show you its quirks and features’
@@deathsc0uthd825 lmfao
And give it a Doug Score
No, it's "This is SSspaghetti, and today we're going to review it. We're going to go over its quirks and featurs, take it for what is, a meal, eat it, let it digest, come out the exhaust, then give it a doug score"
Doug: This little piece of plastic that you'll never see doesn't EXACTLY match the piece next to it.
Literally everyone else: Thank you Ford for putting the money in the powertrain and suspension instead of e-brake trim pieces.
If only they did that with the base Focus model, maybe Ford would still be making cars instead of trucks for fat people.
lmfao yes thank you ford for giving us a more walmart bargain bin interior.
Ford is on it’s A game when it comes to performance models of its production vehicles. I love my focus ST.
My 17 st2 is miles ahead of a better interior. Ford made the big jump in quality 15+ for everything.
I've driven my ST for 100,000 miles and never even noticed the e-brake trim. I was astonished he spent so much time talking about it.
And none of this is to mention just the sheer happiness and joy in seeing another ST roll around on the road past you and both of you just look at each other through the glass and are just like "fuck yeah".
So true 😂
I swear the ST is almost a factory sleeper, you see another one and you both know how much fun we’re both having even though it basically looks “normal” especially compared to the RS. I think they absolutely nailed making the front end a bit meaner with a slight wing that’s not overkill
"YEA" 👍
It's like when motorcyclists do the little finger thing to eachother lol. As a fiesta ST owner, I only see one of those on the road every other month or so. They seem more rare in the states. I see a few focus st's a month
Hahaha! I do that all the time
It still remember Jeremy Clarkson saying ST stands for "sanitary towel" while reviewing a Ford Focus 😂
I think he also said something about waiting for the diesel 'STD' version (obviously standing for 'sexually transmitted disease').
yeah, the 2.5 inline 5 ST, the best one
LMAO I REMEMBER
@Nomen Clature I miss the original hosts too... The perfect trio in the world: Clarkson, Hammond and May
nothing sanitary about this particular focus ST due to doug spitting in it while drivingg lol
Dougs an actual genius. Instead of paying for rentals like he would when he used turo, he can now just borrow the cars being sold on Cars and Bids to review, free. And where is CNC??
I think he should be a true gentleman and go back to cnc again, most of his fortune comes from those reviews and now he's not sponsoring them anymore
@@rinodb83 he doesn't owe CNC anything. They gave him cars to review for a day or two, and they got a ton of free publicity.
No way Turo charged Doug for all that marketing.
Product placement.
I think the lack of videos at CNC is a result of COVID. I could be wrong, but it’s quite plausible.
2016 Focus ST owner. If the 2013 model is at all similar, there are 2 relatively cheap and easy things you can do to vastly improve the driving experience in these cars. Doug mentioned the "vagueness" of the shifter, I fixed that issue by swapping out the rubbery shifter cable bushings with aluminum ones in less than an hour, all the vagueness is gone. The position of the gas pedal is also not ideal (way WAY behind the brake, no idea why it's placed so awkwardly), but I fixed this with a spacer that brings the pedal closer to the driver's seat. Less than $100 and less than 2 hours and the basic driving experience vastly improved!
does the 2016 ST have android auto
FWIW, the throttle placement feels awesome when doing threshold heel-toe on a race track. Awkward as hell to heel-toe in normal driving though.
And completely agree on the shifter bushings. I love the shifter feel after that and a short shift plate.
@@StogStudioFLI believe they started that in 2017. I own a 2017 and it has android auto along with apple carplay.
They actually never got rid of the snowflakes, the other wheels were just a paid option.
Yup, they also got rid of the silver color option and replaced it with rado gray
@@travisr1324 *nardo
I didn't know you had these cars in the US. I thought these models were for the UK market. Glad to see you have them, they make a great sound and are very quick and handle great. edit: My bad, I thought this was the 5 cylinder version. Not such a great sound but still a nice car.
@@SgtSteel1 The 5 cylinder one is an amazing car. Does everything better than the version shown in the video and it has a better sound, huge boot and only 25 hp less yet it’s still faster and overall feels like a much more solid car. Plus with a few mods it can easily make 300+ hp just on stage 2
Yup is a darker gray
America misses ford hatchbacks so much
Looking at sales numbers they don't really miss them at all.
THIS American is. Also, manual transmissions
@@JoshuaTootell Import a new one.
Not on my budget @@schwuzi
@@schwuzi they can’t (25 year rule)
"It's success led to the return of the hot hatch"
And then Ford got rid of it. All praise hyundai, I guess, for being the last manufacturer of hot hatches that still sell in the US. If anyone wants a car like this new, what options do we even have? Golf? Veloster? anything else?
Civic Type R
@@TekuTaurus Affordable the type R is not. Overpriced it is.
When it's way over priced they go away
Civic si
@Whitt Solak true but both ugly af.
*If only Audi could take a note out fords to book Real air vents and exhausts*🤯👍🥇
@brandon saavedra eh
ST is way more reliable and won't cost you a grand or more every time you need to change the spark plugs or altinator. $500 to $700 sensor replacements. I could go on forever. Audis are nice cars if you have an extra 1 to 2k to maintain it yearly.
@@Ricky_Grade10 EXACTLY, the people that are looking to buy an ST, really can’t afford or deal with the shenanigans of owning an over engineered piece of euro junk. These were such cool little cars.
German cars just require more loving wouldn't swap my 3 door golf manual for anything (my personal most expensive "repair was tires" at 111k miles
@brandon saavedra I mean it is pretty stupid to compare an entire brand against just one car
Doug: is about to begin a surgery
ALSO doug: Before we get started, be sure to check out cars and bids
played out joke
How did this get 58 likes in...46 minrjes oh god
69 likes= nice
"there's no visible fuel door" literally shows big ass fuel door lid on the side smh
I don't understand why people complain about cars having fuel door?
And the fact people like clean looking lines, yet all cars have cut-outs for the doors, fuel door, hood, trunk, fenders, bumpers, headlights, taillights, etc.
@@automation7295 I don't think anyone complains about cars having fuel doors. It's just cool that Ford obscured the fuel door like they did.
But then they ruined it on the facelift! They made the lights smaller but not the fuel door so it stuck out!
I think that little spot is for business cards my guy ... DO NOT PUT YOUR CREDIT CARD IN YOUR GLOVE BOX!!!
I thought it was for proof of insurance cards
Idk why but I love it when Doug reviews average everyday cars
It's fun to drive, because it's European. Ford has huge history with hot hatches on the old continent. Cheers.
I was looking for someone to mention that this is...let me think...the 4th or 5th Focus Hot Hatch Generation to me here in Germany. There have been STs since 2002 and RSs became common with the neon green RS350 or whatever it was named. That boxy one ;)
Remember the Focus Xr5 turbo with the mental 2.5 volvo engine ? Utter turbo roller skate
@@Spookieham It's modern classic 👍
European manufacturers always been more innovating than American manufacturers because US Governments banned lot of new innovations from the manufacturers.
For example US banned directional headlights, so Citroën's DS and SM had fixed sealed beams headlights and no glass cover, unlike European models.
Meanwhile Canada allows European headlamps, but not USA.
@@automation7295 Interesting, I didn't know that, thank you. Cheers
Such a shame that the new gen isn’t being sold in America
Its because North Americans can't fit into them
@@bluruckuscrx8124 gonna go out on a limb and assume you tried to call north americans fat, its just too bad there are idiots all over the world!
just saw a 2021 at the supermarket, looks way better
the interior of the new Fiesta's and Focus' are very nice.
Ford Explorer ST
This was supposed to be kept secret 🤦. Now they are going to go up in value
Sad that Ford doesn’t sell the Focus anymore, even Fiesta, Taurus, Fusion and any other Ford sedans in North America.
this is why i hate our country's raging SUV and crossover addiction
You can take my European Focus in exchange for an Explorer or F-150 :)
@@koga1330 We have the Explorer in the EU :)
@@peterzerbrich5255 but only the titanium version for 50K
@@koga1330 Trust me, a Focus is much more engaging to drive compared to an Explorer or F-150. Can those be had with a 6 speed manual transmission? I didn't think so.