Fountain Pen Comparison: Jinhao x450 Vs Jinhao x750

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

Комментарии • 103

  • @calebkiller97
    @calebkiller97 5 лет назад +116

    I appreciate that you use the word affordable instead of a word like cheap, that’s exactly the type of language I learned to use as a jewelry salesman

    • @theoffstageme
      @theoffstageme  5 лет назад +24

      Skye Michael there is a big difference between cheap and affordable.

    • @ciannacoleman5125
      @ciannacoleman5125 3 года назад +3

      I got a X450 for Christmas and have been using it a few weeks. It is my first FP and I love it. It is definitely not cheap and flows beautifully. I have used it for writing and sketching and I love how I don’t have to apply any pressure, it is actually a habit I have to be conscious of lol. Great affordable pen

  • @Paul.Douglas
    @Paul.Douglas 5 лет назад +36

    I enjoyed your review. Just got a couple 750's in a package. Surprising how good they write. If there was an Italian name on the same pen, I wonder if it would be over a $100.

  • @neilpiper9889
    @neilpiper9889 5 лет назад +19

    If you like gold plated trim and the Lamy style grip, get the X450.
    If you like silver coloured trim and a plain grip, get the X750.
    There is only one X450 with silver trim, the new Mk 11 Flighter fine nib.

  • @alczarnecki8905
    @alczarnecki8905 Год назад +2

    The nib on my Jinhao 750 was impossible to remove. So I tried this method, and it worked.
    1. Remove ink cartridge, rinse nib, blot dry
    2. Cut a 25 cm (10 in) length of postal twine, double and knot to form a loop
    3. Cut a 1x25 cm (0.5x10 in) strip of masking tape
    4. Do 4 very tight wraps around bare nib at collar
    5. Align loop strands with sides of metal nib
    6. Do 8 very tight wraps around postal twine and nib
    7. Grab cord and pen body firmly, pull using shoulders
    After this initial heroic removal, the nib was reasonably easy to remove with normal hand force. If you slightly dampen a folded paper towel, that will conform to the ribs in the feeder and make it less likely to deform them when pulling.

  • @polksie
    @polksie 6 лет назад +10

    I’ve not been interested in these pens before. But now I’m going to try them. Thanks.

  • @janodewald6087
    @janodewald6087 4 года назад +5

    Very nice review, thank you.. I got the X450, no complaints, great looking pen (even a two color nib, though it is hard as rock) and a decent writer. Inked it up with Pelikan Edelstein Topaz and ended up giving it to a guy at work who did not have a fountain pen. Now he bought his own and I got mine back. And I ordered the X750 just an hour ago. Just because. I own more expensive fohntain pens, but the X450 isn't any less fun to use. And it comes with a free converter! I paid as much for a Lamy converter as for the whole X450...

  • @LexKaiNix
    @LexKaiNix 6 лет назад +8

    Glad to see another lefty fountain pen user :D
    I started with an x750 so might try the 450 next. Cheers!

  • @javicxjavicx
    @javicxjavicx 5 лет назад +5

    I have put a zebra g nib on my x750 and I love it. I get the fine I prefer while being able to do thick lines when I need to. It does feel alittle scratch but it has a sweet spot to it. Thank you for the video have a good day

  • @presto511
    @presto511 5 лет назад +10

    I bought two Jinhao x750's... They are very wet pens, but my Birmingham Andrew Carnegie steel blue ink dries quite quickly... I can't believe how well these pens perform for such a cheap price point... They are quite heavy but it dosen't bother me....

    • @LovkynaPeral
      @LovkynaPeral 5 лет назад

      I have one x750 but i like it too 👍

  • @vwood2
    @vwood2 6 лет назад +3

    Great introduction to the pens - thanks. I’ve bought a few newer Jinhaos lately (992 & 51A), so have became interested their older standbys - nice to hear your about your experience with them.

  • @paulherman5822
    @paulherman5822 3 года назад +2

    At this time, Jinhao pens in general are well worth more than they cost. I have easily 30 (almost no duplicate models), and they've all been great. Whatever type or shape you like, there's probably a Jinhao. I've not seen any with other than medium (generally the bigger number 6 nibs), fine (generally their number 5 nibs, but they started making a number 6 in fine), and hooded type in an extra fine that's actually close to their fine. Plus, they have a few with a Lamy type in fine and extra fine.
    Quality appears to have been hit or miss several years ago, but in the 30+ I have, I've not gotten any that didn't write straight away. And there's options for swaps to different nibs, as the number 6 and 5 are pretty industry standard. (There's also a Waverly type that fits in the hooded ones, made by "Bobby" from his Etsy and eBay stores. Great, smooth, nice, wet... And only about $2.50 USD plus shipping. Makes it more of a fine, but well worth it, IMO. Not a paid spokesman. Just a satisfied customer. 😁)

  • @makettaja
    @makettaja Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video. I already owned couple jinhao pens but decided to get couple more and ended up ordering both models.

  • @maccaj6565
    @maccaj6565 6 лет назад +2

    Great comparison video. I prefer the x450 due to the grip - I have a really strange hand position when I write that sometimes results in unintentional pen rotation, so for me it's nice to have something to keep my pen oriented correctly.

  • @thinaphonpetsiri9907
    @thinaphonpetsiri9907 5 лет назад +7

    I have a question.
    Can I use X750 grip on X450? Is it gonna fit or not? I personally don't like the triangular grip on X450 but I really love it's look.

    • @sajjadhusain4146
      @sajjadhusain4146 4 года назад

      Exactly my feelings. The X450 looks much better but that ugly dented grip is a deal-breaker for me. If only the 750 grip would fit the 450, I’d buy the 450.

  • @Richard1855
    @Richard1855 6 лет назад +1

    G'day Mick, a good short and straight to the point video. I too bought a couple of Goulet #6 nibs (Fine & Med) and swapped them onto a Jinhao X750 and a PENBBS 308 acrylic, made them from already good pens to excellent writers. As to the ink stain on your fingers, mine are the same, always, as this shows that we constantly muck about with our pens and is the common bond among us pen lovers. I like to wear it like a "badge of honour" ;-). Keep them videos coming, cheers.

  • @McTripsRipz
    @McTripsRipz 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you for the comparison good sir!

  • @trevorjackson7589
    @trevorjackson7589 3 года назад +1

    Your handwriting is so pretty!

  • @Gbonejohn1974
    @Gbonejohn1974 5 лет назад +1

    wife got me a 750 as a stocking filler for xmas and its amazing ,so smooth never in a million years does it feel like a 5 quid pen im blown away compared to a stndard 20-30 quid parker its in a different league ......maybe i got lucky with the nib but its flawless

  • @EagleFPV43
    @EagleFPV43 5 лет назад +20

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      @chatmasalagamer8253 4 года назад

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  • @roythomas1056
    @roythomas1056 5 лет назад +1

    Just got my 450 in the mail today, hope I like it as much as my 750. Thanks for you observations.

  • @MazzaCheewanich
    @MazzaCheewanich 5 лет назад +2

    Already have 750 in creme (write so smooth) and need one 450 now...thanks for comparison review.

    • @TheChameleon2008
      @TheChameleon2008 5 лет назад +1

      yea let me know what you think! i have both and think the x450 is the better version out of the 2 due to the better grip.

  • @sentient.ball.of.stardust
    @sentient.ball.of.stardust 2 месяца назад

    I know I'm 5 years late, but I've been trying to find that ceramic looking one with no luck, happen to have a link?

  • @stevehuffman7453
    @stevehuffman7453 2 года назад

    Thanks. I was wondering what the difference is.
    I like my 450's. Probably going to get a few more from this maker. And some fine and FUDE nibs.

  • @CCoburn3
    @CCoburn3 4 года назад +4

    Great video. Does having the Goulet nib make much difference in the way the pen writes? Perhaps you could do a video on the difference between the 450 with a stock nib and one with a Goulet nib. I would also be interested in seeing HOW to change the nibs.

    • @HJKelley47
      @HJKelley47 4 года назад +2

      I have exchanged nibs on about 5 of my Jinhao X750 and a couple of X450 pens. I exchanged most
      for a stub nib, and a couple of a medium nib. After learning how to tweak a nib (smoothing or
      shimming), I use the stock medium nib which comes with Jinhao. However, I have had good success
      with the Goulet stub nibs. A nice quality nib, which has not disappointed me. I will acknowledge one
      of my Goulet stub nibs required a bit of tweaking to improve the writing experience. Goulet Pen Company
      has a video on "How to Swap A Jinhao Nib" on RUclips: ruclips.net/video/fPau_yEu89s/видео.html

  • @scorpion1982a
    @scorpion1982a 6 лет назад +1

    Hello
    What is the thickness of the nib for X750?
    Thanks

  • @Floofypan
    @Floofypan Год назад

    I was not aware that the x450 had different finishes! The pink one had me holding in a squeal jsjsjs. Pink is my favourite colour. :)
    Thanks for the review! I think I'll go with the x450 then, preferably the pink one if I could find any in my local online store. Now I just wonder if the pen comes with a converter already included...
    But either way, I'll be getting one just in case it doesn't. Thanks again!
    P.S : I bought my first fountain pen that had the design of a Lamy Safari. Design-wise.. it wasn't exactly what I was looking for. I prefer sleeker designs.
    Only thing I'm worried about is the weight of the pen, as I'm not sure if I would prefer light or heavy ones.

  • @aniketbiswas2979
    @aniketbiswas2979 8 месяцев назад

    Is it normal for this pen to move the pen casing even when it is closed?

  • @caddywampus
    @caddywampus 2 года назад

    Omg, I'm going to start collecting the 450s like crazy now

  • @eskerinola5845
    @eskerinola5845 2 года назад

    Hi. I noticed that all x450 come with that M nib. What are the options to install an F nib if any? Thanks.

  • @stevehuffman7453
    @stevehuffman7453 2 года назад

    Will the X750 section fit the X450 pen?

  • @J276
    @J276 3 года назад +1

    I had to buy one for myself because I wanted a pen to help me for a long time.

  • @carriegiancola4025
    @carriegiancola4025 3 года назад

    Thank you, I just ordered mine!

  • @edwardstaats4935
    @edwardstaats4935 2 года назад

    Any recommendations for pens that are more geared to left-handed writers?

  • @2ndskinmineral
    @2ndskinmineral 4 года назад +3

    I got both of them......then I dont have x750 anymore. why? my dad love it so much, I just have to give it to him. also gave him 159 and 450 as well. He prefer the 750 than his vintage montblanc.....how about that.

    • @reinulf656
      @reinulf656 3 года назад

      Which color is it? The one your dad likes? I somehow see pretty much nobody has the textured black one somehow.. Most people have the sparkling

    • @2ndskinmineral
      @2ndskinmineral 3 года назад

      @@reinulf656 He got x750 in matte black (I think), X450 in blue and 159 in basic black. ^___^

  • @jonm2522
    @jonm2522 5 лет назад

    What better quality nib upgrade would you recommend for the x450 thanks.

  • @user-ts3oe9ty3r
    @user-ts3oe9ty3r Год назад

    Is there any different in the nib softness between the x450 and x750? I would be interested to know this as an artist

    • @theoffstageme
      @theoffstageme  Год назад

      No. Neither is a soft nib… you can get some line variation out if it if you push it, but you absolutely can spring the nib VERY easily. They are a standard non-flex, non-soft steel nib.

  • @julioezequiel8935
    @julioezequiel8935 5 лет назад

    Good video, I'm thinking about buy one X750 for daily use.

    • @TheChameleon2008
      @TheChameleon2008 5 лет назад

      buy a 450 and thank me later. Both are great to own but 450 has a better grip while writing in my opinion.

  • @Richard_Barnes
    @Richard_Barnes 4 года назад

    Just what I was looking for. Nice review, thx 😀👍🏻

  • @josepmariaaguascaribot9239
    @josepmariaaguascaribot9239 3 года назад

    I think that the X450 handicap lies in their cap threads absence.

  • @Mulberry2000
    @Mulberry2000 4 года назад +1

    For the price the quality of these pens are excellent

  • @musaddiqislam6635
    @musaddiqislam6635 2 года назад

    does the cap not get lose or free over time after repeatedly donning and doffing?

    • @theoffstageme
      @theoffstageme  2 года назад

      Over time it may… but the big issue is if the cap liner cracks the cap will become very loose.

  • @Ingrid0410
    @Ingrid0410 6 лет назад

    Is the Jinhao 450 and the x450 the same pen? I ordered one from Amazon that says "Jinhao 450 normal nib", (love it)---better than my Pilot Metro Retro Pop fine nib) then I also ordered one which I haven't gotten yet which says Jinhao x450 0.5mm nib school pen. Please tell me if you happen to know the difference? between the 450 and the x450? Are the same? Thank you! I just got into fountain pens last week!!!! Love them! What color would you recommend I buy for a man as a gift? Also what brand of ink CARTRIDGES ARE THE BEST FOR THESE PENS? I don't want to fiddle with bottles of ink. Thank you! Great review!

    • @HJKelley47
      @HJKelley47 4 года назад +1

      Ingrid: A 0.5 mm. nib is usually more like a fine/medium nib. A 0.6-7 nib is a definite medium. There
      is a Jinhao 450A and Jinhao X450 -- difference is found in clip and color range. Nib is the same. Amazon
      sells the Jinhao 450A as the Jinhao Royal. It is a nice brown marble. It just a little nib smoothing (if you
      are having a problem), will make for a smoother writing experience.

  • @hiteshborkar3619
    @hiteshborkar3619 Год назад

    thanks for making nice reveiw.

  • @maverick00767
    @maverick00767 4 года назад

    If you prefer the 450 with the 750 grip just change the bodies on the pens since they are same other than that aspect.

    • @theoffstageme
      @theoffstageme  4 года назад +1

      maverick00767 Unfortunately, that doesn’t work. The pen will not cap If you swap out the sections

    • @maverick00767
      @maverick00767 4 года назад

      Mick L Ah thanks, I was planning a swap. Cheers.

  • @srinivaskandru5034
    @srinivaskandru5034 4 года назад

    Impressed with this pen and ordered 5 pens for my friends and family
    members. Accidentally, I spoilt the nibs for two pens. I need the fine
    nibs for this pen in India. Please let me know how can I order? Thx.

    • @p.r.s8675
      @p.r.s8675 2 года назад +1

      Go for kanwrite nibs.

  • @teejayapacible6290
    @teejayapacible6290 4 года назад

    the jinhao x450 comes with converter or nah?

    • @theoffstageme
      @theoffstageme  4 года назад +2

      Teejay Apacible all of mine have.

    • @teejayapacible6290
      @teejayapacible6290 4 года назад

      @@theoffstageme what cheap Chinese fp will you recommend for a beginner?

  • @MrBahBZ
    @MrBahBZ 5 лет назад

    It's a fountain pen -- is there line variability? Can you make a wider line by pushing harder? How much wider? Please do not skip this pertinent information in your reviews.

    • @TheChameleon2008
      @TheChameleon2008 5 лет назад

      not really.... its a jinhao with a cheap nib. It has almost zero line variation but it writes very smooth tho.

    • @HJKelley47
      @HJKelley47 4 года назад +1

      The nibs on the Jinhao are NOT flex nibs, and were not designed for flexing. If you do what you have
      suggested, you will spring your nib,, and it will be of no further use. Just buy a #6 flex nib - like a
      Noodler's #6 flex nib, and then you can flex all you want. You can also exchange your Jinhao nib for
      a Zebra-G nib for flexing. FPR (Fountain Pen Revolution) has a nice flex nib. Check them out. Hope
      this helps.

  • @cmdrdarwin3682
    @cmdrdarwin3682 5 лет назад

    Wow, amazing performance for such a low price...and from China!

  • @rafael55
    @rafael55 5 лет назад

    I have both, they are great!. Can anyone tell me what converter I can use to upgrade then?

    • @HJKelley47
      @HJKelley47 4 года назад

      Rafael55: A Schmidt K5 converter will make a good upgrade for either the X750 or X450.

    • @rafael55
      @rafael55 4 года назад

      @@HJKelley47 thanks!!!

  • @disfiguringthegoddes
    @disfiguringthegoddes 5 лет назад

    Old video but still relevant. I agree with you , I really wish the x450 didn't come with the grip that it does. I much prefer the body and shape of the x450 but can't stand the grip.

    • @freetobe3
      @freetobe3 5 лет назад

      I think the grip can be switched with a 750.

    • @HJKelley47
      @HJKelley47 4 года назад

      The grip does push you to hold the pen correctly, just like the Lamy. It is a design feature which
      has helped many to make that adjustment. Also you can switch the grip with the X750, which
      does not have that design feature.

  • @srbinsajuga3326
    @srbinsajuga3326 4 года назад

    I have the 450 and the cap won't stay on. Anyone else have the same problem?

    • @theoffstageme
      @theoffstageme  4 года назад

      It’s happened on a couple of mine. the main reason Ive found is that the plastic liner in the cap has split. Check if thats the problem

  • @greggregson1365
    @greggregson1365 4 года назад

    Am I the only one who thinks jinhao clips make their pens look cheap? Also, are the snap caps as snappy as the jinhao x250?

  • @felixaviseyii8878
    @felixaviseyii8878 4 года назад

    The jinhao 450 is nice it looks like the MOMT BLANC and its cheap

  • @geckonia
    @geckonia 6 лет назад

    Love swapping nibs on those puppies. 👍🏼

  •  4 года назад

    JInhao ones are very inconsistent in quality. Its a hit or miss. Ive bought 7 ...approx...

    • @HJKelley47
      @HJKelley47 4 года назад

      Zhang Wei; Have you learned how to smooth a nib, or how to shim a nib in order to address
      some of the concerns most pen enthusiast might have. You can tweak a Jinhao nib, and discover
      a very different writing experience--one that you will enjoy. I would encourage you to check out
      Stephen Brown's RUclips channel on how to go about this. All fountain pen collectors usually
      learn these skills, for even nibs of costly pens have periodically required some tweaking.

  • @mvdurgaprasad6181
    @mvdurgaprasad6181 5 лет назад

    Costs of 159,450,750jinhavo fountain pens may be intimated

  • @peterArt123
    @peterArt123 4 года назад +1

    i like jinhao x450 ,750 is good too,159 is heavier but feeling is good

    • @theoffstageme
      @theoffstageme  4 года назад +1

      the x450 is one of my favourite inexpensive pen models.

  • @Fyre_Rose
    @Fyre_Rose 5 лет назад

    I would like to get a x750 with that fake gold nib thats on the x450. i think it would look really nice. Guess i could get both at that price and swap the nibs around :P

    • @HJKelley47
      @HJKelley47 4 года назад

      You can also order a few X450 nibs, and switch out the one on your X750 with the X450. Nibs are
      easy to change on these two model Jinhao pens.

  • @sobr24
    @sobr24 3 года назад

    А разве тут нельзя писать с нажимом? ведь перо не сплошное, оно должно делится.

  • @generic_asian_
    @generic_asian_ 5 лет назад +2

    You said it was good as a gift. We must assimilate the non enthusiasts.

    • @ciannacoleman5125
      @ciannacoleman5125 3 года назад +1

      I got one for Christmas last year and even though I had wanted to write with FPs I had only used a super cheap one (ironically it cost more than this one 😂) The x450 converted me to FPs and I am about to begin playing with inks, want a couple more pens with different nib sizes too.

    • @generic_asian_
      @generic_asian_ 3 года назад +1

      @@ciannacoleman5125 the Pilot Metro is good and HongDian 6016 is also a steal.

  • @gab194bbece7
    @gab194bbece7 2 года назад

    I knew leflties can use whatever fountain pen the one thay want

  • @srinivaskandru5034
    @srinivaskandru5034 4 года назад

    Impressed with this pen and ordered 5 pens for my friends and family
    members. Accidentally, I spoilt the nibs for two pens. I need the fine
    nibs for this pen in India. Please let me know how can I order? Thx.

  • @srinivaskandru5034
    @srinivaskandru5034 4 года назад

    Impressed with this pen and ordered 5 pens for my friends and family
    members. Accidentally, I spoilt the nibs for two pens. I need the fine
    nibs for this pen in India. Please let me know how can I order? Thx.

    • @srinivaskandru5034
      @srinivaskandru5034 4 года назад

      @ Camlin is not good. I use Parker ink, that is better. But be careful when using fountain pens, once the nib is broken it is not easily available esp in India..like in my case.

    • @nanjappa42
      @nanjappa42 4 года назад

      @@srinivaskandru5034 Who says nib is not available in India? You can get nibs from old-style pen (repair) shops in places like Chennai, Bangalore etc., where some still exist. You can get Jinhao nibs from ASA pens on line..You can look out for Kanwrite nibs - they are available on line, but run out of stock frequently.
      As for inks, let me tell you: I am using Bril inks for the last 60 years ( before 1964, that brand was known as 'Iris'.) They have been good- am using fountain pens for more than 65 years, and NONE of my pens has been spoiled because of the Iris/Bril ink that I use. [ I have more than 100 pens]
      Since April 2019 , I am using Daytone inks- these are available on line , more easily than Bril. This also seems to be good. You get a pack with 15 colours.
      Well, I used Camlin ink years ago, ( when I was in Mumbai, where Bril was not easily available) and it was good. But today, it is Kokuyo-Camlin. It is also good. [ Camlin has been a standard and respected Indian brand for many decades. Kokuyo is more than a century old Japanese company. The Japanese are very conscious of quality and would never lend their name to any sub-standard stuff.] These Indian inks are good- for general writing. Let us not underestimate them. Let us not fall for Western foreign brands which are terribly over-priced.

    • @srinivaskandru5034
      @srinivaskandru5034 4 года назад

      @@nanjappa42 I have searched so many online sources, but I could not get it. If it is really available as you said, I am the most happiest person. Because I kept them aside in in this corona pandemic even if I am interested to use that. Thank you so much sir. If it is still not available I will comment again, Please help me.

    • @srinivaskandru5034
      @srinivaskandru5034 4 года назад

      @ I use Parker ink it is good

    • @nanjappa42
      @nanjappa42 4 года назад

      @@srinivaskandru5034 I am sorry at your plight. I have some Jinhao nibs (to fit Jinhao 159) which I can gladly spare for you. It is a pleasure to help a fellow pen enthusiast.