@@lootgoblinmarketplace something that I found odd was the "ok I glad I didn't have to say it" part because it implies that iris either 1 has a small amount of guilt whenever she puts SA on a campaign Or 2 gets embarrassed whenever she talks about this stuff but not so much that she would want to stop Her whole "You're the bottom because he's the bigger one" thing also gives me heavy fanfic vibes
Yeah, there are a lot of weird encounters but that one with Mr. Egg seemed to be forced the most because even with the Barbarian character actively pushing back it kept escalating. Most the other situations where ones where the DM claimed something happened and it was too late to push back. Even though this player stood their ground for a while the DM pushed so much they gave in twice (once to make the roll and another to accept what was done).
or maybe she's not actually ace, and instead is only interested in doing weird stuff like non-con (to anyone other than herself probably), which she obviously can't recreate irl, so she just uses dnd and abuses people either that or the "ace" aspects of her life are only caused due to psychological stuff, but that's a tricky topic
@@samuelsalvatore4511Or she was an ace that had just figured out they were ace recently and _still_ had all their preconceived notions about sex that they'd built up over the years (ex : sex isn't actually enjoyable or it's painful so to get to the point where you'll like it you need to force yourself for years, nobody actually asks for consent or nobody would consent, don't enter someone's bedroom unless you're ready to have sex because it's gonna happen either way). I just listened to the first 2 Iris videos and she's absolutely foul, but I'm not gonna jump into assuming she's not ace as she reminds me of how I used to think about these things for like a year before learning what asexuality was. That's no excuse for her keeping this up after the players made it clear that they were uncomfortable tho.
The second she broke the Fade to Black rule she should of been on ice, outright SA should have gotten her sternly talked to and given a warning that if she does it again she's out and that's being nice. No idea how the entire group was so spineless as to just let this keep happening as long as they did.
Yeah, Fade to Black is what I believe the standard should be. You get into very uncomfortable situations even with people with good intentions once you step across that line.
Most TTRPG players are non-confrontational, most will NEVER speak up. Shell, you may think you would do that, but I'm 100% sure that if it happened to your game, you would stay as silent as others, at least for a while. Even without being non-confrontational, the "paralysis" part of any human's reaction to a scary/shocking stimulus still plays a big role and prevents even the confrontational or brave individuals to not be able to do anything. It is NOT easy to just immediately spring up to action.
@@DianaTaffie I understand not in the moment but at least after the session. Could just be my group, but we're usually pretty good at being stern when need be and have shunned away bad behavior like this before. Possibly because we rotate the GM chair or just our personalities.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace I agree that fade to black or just not having sexual situations should be standard, but I also think that each group can decide what they're comfortable playing out at the table. If everybody wants to explore sexual topics, I think it's fine, the issue is this DM didn't ask if the other players wanted that, nor did she listen to the players when they explicitly voiced that they didn't want that.
Christ almighty, while my time as DM wasnt my greatest moment and i made a lot of first time mistakes, at least i never tried to sexualize my players' characters. Being ace is no excuse or shield from being uncomfortably sexual with people who did not consent to it, and Iris really needs to consider their actions. Like, im ace, and those would be such horrific situations to have my character put in, especially from another ace person who had rules in place about stopping exactly that kind of behavior.
I know this is one year old but seriously! Continuing to play with Iris after what she did to their characters WITHOUT their consent is crazy. It doesn't especially help that at least 90 percent of Iris' NSFW interactions with the players involved SA throughout the entire story. Disgusting.
Games with lots of sex don't even have to be creepy. If it just so happens that all the players are interested in including it, and all their ground rules are followed, it can be another fun element of the game! Yet Iris seems to either be convinced that sex is always brutal and unpleasant, or get some kind of icky satisfaction out of making players uncomfortable. Stepping over players' boundaries over and over is one of the reddest flags I can think of.
For some asexual people, sex is inherently forced on them. Thinking about sex, being reminded that sex exists, seeing advertisements that are clearly capitalizing on sex, etc. They feel marginalized by it, and as many others have pointed out, they may have experienced SA or other traumas. None of this really explains why she'd bring it to the table. SA survivors inherently understand the vulnerability involved in talking about it, and they know it often makes other people uncomfortable. The best motivation I can guess for Iris is that she was vindictive over society forcing thoughts of sex on her all the time, and decided to put the party through the same. Pretty rotten, tbh-that's not going to teach people any sympathy for aces. It sends a very confusing message.
it sounds to me like Iris has a complex about sex, probably from trauma, hence why she controls the players ability to express or explore sexuality in the game the way they want, while simultaneously forcing them to explore her own sexual plots even though it's expressly against the group's rules to do so. Sounds like she's dealing with her trauma by forcing that trauma on to others, which is not okay.
i believe iris about being ace. but i do also think she has problems with sex in general, be it bad relationships, SA or something else i dont know. she might be autistic, who knows, boundaries are super hard for autistic people after all. regardless, iris sounds like they have some unsolved problems :( hope they get professional help and learn to better respect people's boundaries so they dont end up ostracized in the future. and if they have experienced trauma i hope they still get help for it
yeah that's what i thought, or what i hoped, as fucked up as that is to say. it really might just be a 'hurt people hurt people' situation. and with the recurring theme of assault and parent-child incest, i can only assume a similar thing happened to iris and kinda skewed their perspective of sex as a whole.
I have autism and I'd like to take this second to say, we have the ability to understand wrong from right. Yes, we struggle with boundaries, but that is no excuse for what Iris did, her being autistic is no excuse, and her being Ace is no excuse. You can hope that she gets help, however, it's people like Iris that give us a bad reputation. So, excuse me, if I seem a little strict with Iris's actions because it's like I said, we're perfectly capable of understanding wrong from right with a little help and explanation.
@@friendlystoryphantom2043 yeah no worries. Im aroace and autistic as well. Which is why i propably am too lenient with my take and views on her. I saw way too much of my younger self in this story. But youre right, being autistic is not an excuse. Knowing about it helps you navigate and be more aware of the autistic persons short comings, but it doesnt excuse when said person is repeatedly ignoring established boundaries. Not that what us internet strangers think matters on this all at the end of the day. We just gotta do our best for ourselves and others if we ever come across situations like this.
@@viiranenAmen. We struggle with recognizing social cues until theyre explained to us. If an autistic person ignores constant, repeated warnings and explanations why not to do something like that, they're just a dick.
Starting to think the whole ace thing here is cover and an excuse for being a creep. Sort of "I couldn't possibly be getting anything out of this" situation.
Every person I've ever met or heard about who says they're asexual is creepy as hell. Either like Iris in being just creepy with sexual topics, sleeping around/cheating or obsessing over being in a relationship only to then abuse their partner every time. It's just weird how it's every time.
I'm surprised none of these D&D horror stories you read ever end with a player beating the shit out of the dumb, I'm not surprised this particular asexual doesn't understand appropriate sexual behaviour.
Well. Best I can do when getting a story like this, learn from the mistakes of others to help keep things better for my table, and others. Hope you're doing alright yourself, Mr. Loot. This was a harsh one.
There’s a type of asexual that’s ace due to their past trauma with sex. So, I’m wondering if the DM is that kind of ace and just inflicting their trauma and feelings of sex unto the players.
I absolutely do NOT understand Iris, especially as a (mostly) asexual. That's not even _creepy_ that is downright… I don't really have words for this. But I do not want to know her.
@@DianaTaffie We make inferences based on people's actions and self-representation at all times; it's how we make judgements about people because few people run up to you and start screaming their definitional character traits. It is, in fact, incredibly easy to understand her. Every instance of sexuality that she incorporates into her games is deliberately framed - or reframed at the cost of player agency - as inherently toxic and violative. She's projecting her personal repulsion - though some asexuals are indifferent to it, and there are a range of responses, here we see her revulsion planely articulated - regarding sex onto the experience. We would have no qualms about making such inferences about a fundamentalist southern Christian DM weaving in thematic treatments of black magic, or singling out a sorcerer or warlock and punishing them for the pacts that they have made with demons, would we?
It's obvious in hindsight, but in the moment, sometimes someone needs to pull out a stop sign or play a horn and just talk stuff out, but "we're all cooperating in making a story together" mentality gets in the way. Nobody wants to be the party crasher.
Not gonna lie... no matter how nice or how long i though i "knew" the person... the second they would do what iris did...i would just stand up and leave, say goodbye and maybe at least lie that i had something to do or that a family member needed me now, At least she could not have been a hyprocite
7:55 this was a great break down of it all. Was struggling to together any logic of it all, but that makes me think that the DMs relationship with sexual activity has always been negative or abusive in this regard. But I barely speak and understand English let alone my own thoughts. Who knows.
This whole saga is just exhausting to listen to. Just the constant boundary breaking. And I kind of agree that this feels kind of like Iris trying to punish their group. Like there's something unresolved and they're lashing out.
Ok, one thing about asexuality is that it simply means no sexual attraction to others. An asexual can still be horny, have fetishes, etc., but they don't feel physically drawn to anyone. That being said, that doesn't justify the DM's behavior.
How do none of these players realize she is weird from the second story “you have no choice,” if not the first! I get what story the players were going for in the final story but they essentially handed bullets to a person with a gun.
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The OP and co. are definitely victims here and I don’t want to victim blame but even after having identified iris as having issues with creating uncomfortable/unwanted sexual content they proceed to make characters that could easily be twisted. The moment each character was described I easily saw where it was going, is my mind farther in the gutters then OP’s or did they trust iris too much?
Yeah, I feel like they made fun characters and wanted to lightly explore relationships plotlines and that was unfairly twisted again them. Handing a DM that likes to force NSFW situations two abusive fiancées showed they trusted Iris which makes the betrayal all the more sad in the second part of the story.
The problem is they shouldnt need to scrub their characters of anything remotely sexual or romantic so they cant be twisted against them. Not that this would have worked against iris, take what happened with Psychics' character and the "smells like another woman" description that was just forced onto the character.
I’ve listened to so many of these and I just don’t understand why you guys would go along with the foul stuff these people bring up. Wouldn’t you stop everything and ask them, what did you just say? Especially with this supposedly asexual person who is obsessed with sex. Not even that: why would you hang out with these people at all? You would be able to tell they’re fucked up when you first meet them
... I dont like making arm chair diagnosis, but it seriously sounds like something awful happened to Iris in the past and she is expressing it, very inappropriately, in her campaign worlds She is clearly cognizant that SA is wrong, but for whatever reason seems bent on displaying ALL sex as SA, and even normalizing it. It sounds like she has a very, deeply, unhealthy idea of what sex is and some ingrained issues with men/male bodied people as she seems to default assume that all men are rapists. (In fairness there's not a good sample of Iris's fem characters, but Clementine seems to he completely oblivious to the concept that Psychic's character wouldn't want to have sex) I ecspecially hesitate to say this with anyone of an alternative sexuality, since there is a horrible stereotype that these individuals were all victims of SA (though there is data that suggests that in more conservative communities these individuals do experience SA at increased rates, because they are socially isolated.) If I was Iris's friend I would be deeply concerned that someone had raped her as a child. Whatever is going on I am glad this group got the hell away but it is surprising that it took them so long. And yeah, I agree with the assessment that the reason for the campaign shuffling might have been because it veered off of Iris's pre ordained script. (For context I work in education, and I am trained to look for these sorts of behaviors. If Iris was a student in my care I would recomend her for counseling. I don't know if this wouldn't rigger my mandated reporter status, but my instinct would also be to report potential child abuse. (It sounds like Iris was an adult when this happened, but still.)
Ok so... the DM is asexual... I don't know how to feel, I could either say it may be that in reality sounds more like a voyeour kind of acting, like rather watching the action, with a bit of forcing, or something worse. I can say that since most of the stories were related with you know, NSFW without consent, that perhaps the DM has kind of a bad idea of... you know, those activities? Like most of the times in the campaign are like without player/character consent that they get into that kind of scenes. Like if the DM has something against sex and is trying to say by DMing, ok guys, this is bad, I don't like it... I don't know, just think maybe it would be a good idea to try to calm the DM a bit and talk about the things, because oh boy
Am I the only one *extremely* uncomfortable by the--and I find having acid reflux from saying this--PROBLEMATIC way OP and Rogue just had to portray the men in their backstory for their lazy excuse to have their girl power lesbian storyline??
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Honestly iris might be a "Don't do but like to watch" type of ace, just a very creepy one
You might be right on this being their motivation, it’s definitely creepy.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace something that I found odd was the "ok I glad I didn't have to say it" part because it implies that iris either
1 has a small amount of guilt whenever she puts SA on a campaign
Or
2 gets embarrassed whenever she talks about this stuff but not so much that she would want to stop
Her whole "You're the bottom because he's the bigger one" thing also gives me heavy fanfic vibes
Yeah, there are a lot of weird encounters but that one with Mr. Egg seemed to be forced the most because even with the Barbarian character actively pushing back it kept escalating. Most the other situations where ones where the DM claimed something happened and it was too late to push back. Even though this player stood their ground for a while the DM pushed so much they gave in twice (once to make the roll and another to accept what was done).
or maybe she's not actually ace, and instead is only interested in doing weird stuff like non-con (to anyone other than herself probably), which she obviously can't recreate irl, so she just uses dnd and abuses people
either that or the "ace" aspects of her life are only caused due to psychological stuff, but that's a tricky topic
@@samuelsalvatore4511Or she was an ace that had just figured out they were ace recently and _still_ had all their preconceived notions about sex that they'd built up over the years (ex : sex isn't actually enjoyable or it's painful so to get to the point where you'll like it you need to force yourself for years, nobody actually asks for consent or nobody would consent, don't enter someone's bedroom unless you're ready to have sex because it's gonna happen either way).
I just listened to the first 2 Iris videos and she's absolutely foul, but I'm not gonna jump into assuming she's not ace as she reminds me of how I used to think about these things for like a year before learning what asexuality was.
That's no excuse for her keeping this up after the players made it clear that they were uncomfortable tho.
The second she broke the Fade to Black rule she should of been on ice, outright SA should have gotten her sternly talked to and given a warning that if she does it again she's out and that's being nice. No idea how the entire group was so spineless as to just let this keep happening as long as they did.
Yeah, Fade to Black is what I believe the standard should be. You get into very uncomfortable situations even with people with good intentions once you step across that line.
I 100% agree
Most TTRPG players are non-confrontational, most will NEVER speak up. Shell, you may think you would do that, but I'm 100% sure that if it happened to your game, you would stay as silent as others, at least for a while.
Even without being non-confrontational, the "paralysis" part of any human's reaction to a scary/shocking stimulus still plays a big role and prevents even the confrontational or brave individuals to not be able to do anything.
It is NOT easy to just immediately spring up to action.
@@DianaTaffie I understand not in the moment but at least after the session. Could just be my group, but we're usually pretty good at being stern when need be and have shunned away bad behavior like this before. Possibly because we rotate the GM chair or just our personalities.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace I agree that fade to black or just not having sexual situations should be standard, but I also think that each group can decide what they're comfortable playing out at the table. If everybody wants to explore sexual topics, I think it's fine, the issue is this DM didn't ask if the other players wanted that, nor did she listen to the players when they explicitly voiced that they didn't want that.
the phrase "a loose understanding of what consent is," is terrifying...
Agreed like WHAT
*"A loose understand of what consent is"*
Is that a reference or something stated in the video because I could swear I've heard ot before
I could only make it six minutes in. Someone pass me the mind-soap, damm
Yeah this one is wild.
I'm glad I had it has background noise for the most part
Hopefully I will never be in a campaign like this one
I hope none of us ever do!
Christ almighty, while my time as DM wasnt my greatest moment and i made a lot of first time mistakes, at least i never tried to sexualize my players' characters. Being ace is no excuse or shield from being uncomfortably sexual with people who did not consent to it, and Iris really needs to consider their actions. Like, im ace, and those would be such horrific situations to have my character put in, especially from another ace person who had rules in place about stopping exactly that kind of behavior.
I'm suprised they didn't confront "Iris" sooner
I know this is one year old but seriously! Continuing to play with Iris after what she did to their characters WITHOUT their consent is crazy. It doesn't especially help that at least 90 percent of Iris' NSFW interactions with the players involved SA throughout the entire story. Disgusting.
Games with lots of sex don't even have to be creepy. If it just so happens that all the players are interested in including it, and all their ground rules are followed, it can be another fun element of the game! Yet Iris seems to either be convinced that sex is always brutal and unpleasant, or get some kind of icky satisfaction out of making players uncomfortable. Stepping over players' boundaries over and over is one of the reddest flags I can think of.
For some asexual people, sex is inherently forced on them. Thinking about sex, being reminded that sex exists, seeing advertisements that are clearly capitalizing on sex, etc. They feel marginalized by it, and as many others have pointed out, they may have experienced SA or other traumas.
None of this really explains why she'd bring it to the table. SA survivors inherently understand the vulnerability involved in talking about it, and they know it often makes other people uncomfortable.
The best motivation I can guess for Iris is that she was vindictive over society forcing thoughts of sex on her all the time, and decided to put the party through the same. Pretty rotten, tbh-that's not going to teach people any sympathy for aces. It sends a very confusing message.
... what the...
it sounds to me like Iris has a complex about sex, probably from trauma, hence why she controls the players ability to express or explore sexuality in the game the way they want, while simultaneously forcing them to explore her own sexual plots even though it's expressly against the group's rules to do so. Sounds like she's dealing with her trauma by forcing that trauma on to others, which is not okay.
Was gonna say the same thing -- with much less articulation.
Yeah I think the same
i believe iris about being ace. but i do also think she has problems with sex in general, be it bad relationships, SA or something else i dont know. she might be autistic, who knows, boundaries are super hard for autistic people after all. regardless, iris sounds like they have some unsolved problems :( hope they get professional help and learn to better respect people's boundaries so they dont end up ostracized in the future. and if they have experienced trauma i hope they still get help for it
yeah that's what i thought, or what i hoped, as fucked up as that is to say. it really might just be a 'hurt people hurt people' situation. and with the recurring theme of assault and parent-child incest, i can only assume a similar thing happened to iris and kinda skewed their perspective of sex as a whole.
I have autism and I'd like to take this second to say, we have the ability to understand wrong from right. Yes, we struggle with boundaries, but that is no excuse for what Iris did, her being autistic is no excuse, and her being Ace is no excuse. You can hope that she gets help, however, it's people like Iris that give us a bad reputation. So, excuse me, if I seem a little strict with Iris's actions because it's like I said, we're perfectly capable of understanding wrong from right with a little help and explanation.
@@friendlystoryphantom2043 yeah no worries. Im aroace and autistic as well. Which is why i propably am too lenient with my take and views on her. I saw way too much of my younger self in this story. But youre right, being autistic is not an excuse. Knowing about it helps you navigate and be more aware of the autistic persons short comings, but it doesnt excuse when said person is repeatedly ignoring established boundaries.
Not that what us internet strangers think matters on this all at the end of the day. We just gotta do our best for ourselves and others if we ever come across situations like this.
@@viiranenAmen. We struggle with recognizing social cues until theyre explained to us. If an autistic person ignores constant, repeated warnings and explanations why not to do something like that, they're just a dick.
Even as a bard player I don't get this weird and sexual.
Starting to think the whole ace thing here is cover and an excuse for being a creep. Sort of "I couldn't possibly be getting anything out of this" situation.
Every person I've ever met or heard about who says they're asexual is creepy as hell. Either like Iris in being just creepy with sexual topics, sleeping around/cheating or obsessing over being in a relationship only to then abuse their partner every time. It's just weird how it's every time.
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I'm surprised none of these D&D horror stories you read ever end with a player beating the shit out of the dumb, I'm not surprised this particular asexual doesn't understand appropriate sexual behaviour.
Well.
Best I can do when getting a story like this, learn from the mistakes of others to help keep things better for my table, and others.
Hope you're doing alright yourself, Mr. Loot. This was a harsh one.
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Well that's just messed up isn't it?
There’s a type of asexual that’s ace due to their past trauma with sex. So, I’m wondering if the DM is that kind of ace and just inflicting their trauma and feelings of sex unto the players.
Yeah, I noticed sometimes people use D&D as a form of therapy it can lead to situations like this.
ah yes the just borderline soft core porn asexual
I’m hoping this isn’t a common experience for players. I feel so lucky with the campaigns I’ve played/ran.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace I don't want to get coomer'd around by a weird terminally online fetishist when I am on my wind down time
all these dms are fuckin insane
don't mind me, i'm just here to make sure this isn't about the DM nicknamed Iris that i roll with.
I absolutely do NOT understand Iris, especially as a (mostly) asexual. That's not even _creepy_ that is downright… I don't really have words for this. But I do not want to know her.
Yeah, I feel like as more stories come out maybe I can finally get a grasp on this…
She's enforcing her personal perception of sex on all of her players to "educate" them on how it is always a toxic and revolting violation.
@@reimannsum9077 I would suggest not to project things on people when they aren't confirmed. Assuming makes an ass of you and me.
@@DianaTaffie We make inferences based on people's actions and self-representation at all times; it's how we make judgements about people because few people run up to you and start screaming their definitional character traits. It is, in fact, incredibly easy to understand her.
Every instance of sexuality that she incorporates into her games is deliberately framed - or reframed at the cost of player agency - as inherently toxic and violative. She's projecting her personal repulsion - though some asexuals are indifferent to it, and there are a range of responses, here we see her revulsion planely articulated - regarding sex onto the experience.
We would have no qualms about making such inferences about a fundamentalist southern Christian DM weaving in thematic treatments of black magic, or singling out a sorcerer or warlock and punishing them for the pacts that they have made with demons, would we?
It's obvious in hindsight, but in the moment, sometimes someone needs to pull out a stop sign or play a horn and just talk stuff out, but "we're all cooperating in making a story together" mentality gets in the way. Nobody wants to be the party crasher.
A shortstack with wide hips? Are you kidding me? I'd ONLY be going for that.
I feel like Iris has been SA'd in the passed and doesn't know how to deal with the trauma.
Not gonna lie... no matter how nice or how long i though i "knew" the person... the second they would do what iris did...i would just stand up and leave, say goodbye and maybe at least lie that i had something to do or that a family member needed me now,
At least she could not have been a hyprocite
7:55 this was a great break down of it all. Was struggling to together any logic of it all, but that makes me think that the DMs relationship with sexual activity has always been negative or abusive in this regard. But I barely speak and understand English let alone my own thoughts. Who knows.
This whole saga is just exhausting to listen to. Just the constant boundary breaking. And I kind of agree that this feels kind of like Iris trying to punish their group. Like there's something unresolved and they're lashing out.
Iris is a freak, but OP and party members basically doubled down on introducing ways for the DM to continue being creepy.
Honestly, I really want to protect all my relationship based characters from this Iris.
Ok, one thing about asexuality is that it simply means no sexual attraction to others. An asexual can still be horny, have fetishes, etc., but they don't feel physically drawn to anyone. That being said, that doesn't justify the DM's behavior.
I think there's nothing wrong with sex stuff in dnd IF YOU KNOW YOUR PARTY
Iris definitely did not understand her party
How do none of these players realize she is weird from the second story “you have no choice,” if not the first!
I get what story the players were going for in the final story but they essentially handed bullets to a person with a gun.
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The OP and co. are definitely victims here and I don’t want to victim blame but even after having identified iris as having issues with creating uncomfortable/unwanted sexual content they proceed to make characters that could easily be twisted. The moment each character was described I easily saw where it was going, is my mind farther in the gutters then OP’s or did they trust iris too much?
Yeah, I feel like they made fun characters and wanted to lightly explore relationships plotlines and that was unfairly twisted again them. Handing a DM that likes to force NSFW situations two abusive fiancées showed they trusted Iris which makes the betrayal all the more sad in the second part of the story.
The problem is they shouldnt need to scrub their characters of anything remotely sexual or romantic so they cant be twisted against them. Not that this would have worked against iris, take what happened with Psychics' character and the "smells like another woman" description that was just forced onto the character.
7:53 aaaand I’m all the way out..
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Did the DM have a penchant for pudding pops?
6:57 I wish to hug them
Why would short wide short stacks be unattractive? Is that like ALL the good stuff, that definition is very lacking
where did you find the picture of the girl in your thumbnail?
Is it too far to suggest they smack her?
I’ve listened to so many of these and I just don’t understand why you guys would go along with the foul stuff these people bring up. Wouldn’t you stop everything and ask them, what did you just say? Especially with this supposedly asexual person who is obsessed with sex. Not even that: why would you hang out with these people at all? You would be able to tell they’re fucked up when you first meet them
... I dont like making arm chair diagnosis, but it seriously sounds like something awful happened to Iris in the past and she is expressing it, very inappropriately, in her campaign worlds
She is clearly cognizant that SA is wrong, but for whatever reason seems bent on displaying ALL sex as SA, and even normalizing it.
It sounds like she has a very, deeply, unhealthy idea of what sex is and some ingrained issues with men/male bodied people as she seems to default assume that all men are rapists. (In fairness there's not a good sample of Iris's fem characters, but Clementine seems to he completely oblivious to the concept that Psychic's character wouldn't want to have sex)
I ecspecially hesitate to say this with anyone of an alternative sexuality, since there is a horrible stereotype that these individuals were all victims of SA (though there is data that suggests that in more conservative communities these individuals do experience SA at increased rates, because they are socially isolated.)
If I was Iris's friend I would be deeply concerned that someone had raped her as a child.
Whatever is going on I am glad this group got the hell away but it is surprising that it took them so long.
And yeah, I agree with the assessment that the reason for the campaign shuffling might have been because it veered off of Iris's pre ordained script.
(For context I work in education, and I am trained to look for these sorts of behaviors. If Iris was a student in my care I would recomend her for counseling. I don't know if this wouldn't rigger my mandated reporter status, but my instinct would also be to report potential child abuse. (It sounds like Iris was an adult when this happened, but still.)
I will buy the
Is story for hmmm 20 silver
Ok so... the DM is asexual... I don't know how to feel, I could either say it may be that in reality sounds more like a voyeour kind of acting, like rather watching the action, with a bit of forcing, or something worse.
I can say that since most of the stories were related with you know, NSFW without consent, that perhaps the DM has kind of a bad idea of... you know, those activities? Like most of the times in the campaign are like without player/character consent that they get into that kind of scenes.
Like if the DM has something against sex and is trying to say by DMing, ok guys, this is bad, I don't like it... I don't know, just think maybe it would be a good idea to try to calm the DM a bit and talk about the things, because oh boy
My god, why do players feel the need to insert their sexuality or sex fantasies into a character. This is D&D not your fanfic blog.
Am I the only one *extremely* uncomfortable by the--and I find having acid reflux from saying this--PROBLEMATIC way OP and Rogue just had to portray the men in their backstory for their lazy excuse to have their girl power lesbian storyline??
Dude they were their villains, I doubt all the male characters in their backstories were assholes.
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