Furry Heresy: Warhammer 40K Lore Gone Heretical | RPG Horror Stories
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2023
- Did you know that Warhammer 40k and its lore have a dark secret? Today's 40k horror stories don't come from r/rpghorrorstories but actually /tg/ and is about a furry DM that thinks the Warhammer universe's lore could use a bit of an upgrade. Is this a glory story for the writer or a horror story for the party that has to put up with them? This is up for you to decide.
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Loot gobbo as a Guardsman is something i didn't know i needed in my life
I really liked this design too! I need to read warhammer stories more just so I can use it more!
@@lootgoblinmarketplaceall guardsmen party is a classic story telling.
But im sure we can find other gems.
Pretty much Charon, they ferryman of the underworld
since mythology wise, before Deadman's coins, he would barter a trip over the Styx in exchange for large portions of wealth
That’s not a goblin, that’s a grot in a guardsman’s uniform
You’ve caught me!
Dat be's loot! Wots a grot doin' wit dat flashy light? 'And it over or I'll give ya a thump!
4:09 A former cop admitting he had a copy of the Uplifting Primer in his cruiser is both hilarious and concerning
Another thing to keep in mind is he didn’t mention anything that would imply he was old enough to be retirement age, so I wonder if he did something 40k inspired that got him kicked off the force
Even in-lore that book is implied to be a joke. Even some Commissars, who are supposed to make sure everyone in the Astra Millitarum follows the rules, think it's stupid, but enforce it anyway simply because they don't have any other choice.
@@VestedUTubertbf that also depends, commissars comes in many flavors.
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That's why I said some. Though they all have to enforce it because it's an order from the Commissariat and the higher ups in the Astra Militarum. Some willingly do so, some only do so because they'd be BLAMmed for not doing so.
@@VestedUTuber I mean with enforcing it. Part of the lore get practically embelished or moved so far its essentially grimderpness incarnate due to the fandom.
Classic 40k in this story: No Good Guys here!
You’re right about that. A true 40k story has no just side!
And that's why this was inevitable: the DM and his furry compatriots tried to rewrite the lore so that they're the good guys in a world where there are no good guys. They were going to get purged the moment they decided to play with actual 40K fans.
A classic from 1d4chan. Glad to hear this tale being perpetuated into the modern age.
I always thought it was a memorable one. It’s short and sweet, and kind of a mix between glory and horror mattering on how you view it!
This story is as morally grey as the 40K setting itself.
It is very appropriate, no good guys just like 40k
And that's why this was inevitable: the DM and his furry compatriots tried to rewrite the lore so that they're the good guys in a world where there are no good guys. They were going to get purged the moment they decided to play with actual 40K fans.
"Correction,DEAD." Is an amazing line and I will now be using it.
I remember seeing this on an RPG youtube video some years ago. Still makes me laugh. Still an Imperial Guardsmen? Hope you like being expendable. XD But in all seriousness, props for having your whole avatar done just for this story. Props and respect.
Yeah, I’ve wanted to get into warhammer stories and it felt right to get a new look for it! I figured and Imperial Guardsmen would be funny 😁
Plus Goblins are very expensive in D&D too!
You're thinking of Den of the Drake's video covering this story! His video is just as entertaining as this one
Purge the xeno, the heretic, the alien.
For the emperor!
Suffer not a witch to live!
This was a good story number one because it wasn't dungeons and dragons or pathfinder. End number 2 in the first campaign. They did exactly what they were supposed to do. And killed the non human thing benefictor or no. Maybe the GM should have announced the character's presence. Be all hologram so when they shot at it he wouldn't have died. And in the second campaign, they both seemed in there to sabotage the other party. So in this case, nobody was the victim. Had the Furies head their way. They would have laid waste to the imperium and vice versa
Yeah the first story was totally fair, after that it was two people who want to play completely different types of games trying to “beat” the other instead of playing their own separate games. I agree there was no true victim there.
What makes this all hilarious is that there IS a canonical 'furry' race in 40k, they're called Felinids. Exactly how 'furry' they are is kept somewhat vague, with the Kroot saying they are nearly indistinguishable from humans, but they are there. Felinids are known for cool heads in the face of oppression, claws the length of forearms and being highly efficient killers. They are classified has Abhumans so they aren't outright exterminated on sight, but do undergo a great deal of discrimination. So there was a way to make this work within the context of the series that could have been very interesting.
And for the record, the Felinids weren't behind everything or super OP or whatever. They were just another Abhuman subspecies.
They're not the only ones either.
- Fenrisian Wolves are basically what the Furry Fandom would call "ferals" - characters with human-like personalities and intelligence but fully animal bodies. In 40k lore, they're the result of the Canis Helix having fully taken over the genetics of the past settlers of Fenris.
- Fenrisian Great Wolves, by the way, are what you get when that happens to an Astartes.
- Kroot are basically bird-people - the lore even gives an in-depth look into their physiology, they're actually VERY realistic to how a humanoid avian might actually look apart from the whole "genetic adaptation" thing.
- Most of the higher ranking daemons of Tzeentch are raven-people.
- Corvus Corax is also a raven-person, apparently.
@@VestedUTuber Fair enough
That’s not true, that imperium of man would’ve killed it with a power sword in execution for helping, but if it is a Zenos threats, you shall be exterminated
I do think the even if the real life players may have been trolling and were called not serious, their in-character actions were very within what you’d expect any imperium of man character in Dark Heresy to act.
I know this is often said but it needs Reiterated. Understand most furries arent like this and are just normal people who like creating more ideal versions of themslves and sometimes cosplaying as them. Most furries are just people with various anxieties trying to use masks to better express themself, that also usually just find animals cute or cool. PLEASE understand we are not animal fuckers, and most of us dont try and force the fandom down people's throats.
Very well said, I think the story is funny from the perspective of a diehard fan trolling someone trying to retcon their favorite franchise, but his criticisms of furries shouldn’t be pushed onto the whole group. It seems like he used to know this furry very closely and the hostility is much more personal.
I've found that a lot of furries in general have identity issues and glom on to whatever would be the most acceptable thing to them while still allowing them to stand out from the crowd.
In other words, they're not a creepy weirdo because they're a furry, they're a furry because they're a creepy weirdo.
Which makes those that are just interested in the artwork and funny animal stuff look bad, but in the same way the weird guys who paint themselves in their team's colors and go shirtless to football games look bad. And they're probably both sporting the same mental disconnect just in a different flavor.
I really want to emphasize that this isn't something limited to furries, but because of the bombastic presentation of it, it gets a lot more negative attention to the point people who fall under the criteria but are functioning adults don't publicly admit their association. They box up the fursuit, not hang it over the couch, as it were.
The way our narrator writes about people makes me think they and the DM deserved eachother, not that any of this happened
They're both assholes in different ways. Of course the OP cleanly wins the day, but I sure wasn't rooting for him.
Im not the only one who noticed OP sounds like a major duche bag😅
Yeah this could have easily been a horror story from the other perspective. I think it is an interesting one to include because there is always two sides to a story. It seems like the writer has no problem showing us that he isn’t in the right here either, just trying to get one up on the DM.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace He played the way he was supposed to according to the lore and exterminated some exhibitionist animal people and their magic plant ship after they spouted a bunch of lies about the Empire. Besides, the DM threw the first metaphorical punch by ruining the previous game by having his Mary-Sue of a furry OC appearing in front of a bunch of inquisitors and expecting them to worship it instead of hill it, then ragequitting after they all acted in-character; he and his furry fuckbuddies had it coming. An eye for an eye may make the whole world blind, but at least we won't have to look at their smug, furry, neckbeard faces anymore.
>Asks for serious roleplayers.
>You can't get more serious than xenophobic space marines.
Now joining a table with the intention to ruin another person's fun isn't cool, as funny as I find this whole thing.
The furry should have known better when the space marines that were rescued blasted their dog man to bits. That wasn't even hatred, that was just an automatic reflex to alien races.
Plus, he started asking for it when he focused the other furries' ire at them for that action. If he had the chance to make them not want to ruin the campaign, he threw it away.
Love the warhammer ttrpg. Have all the first edition books. If I remember to I’ll post some of my favorite moments I put my party through, mind you this was early 2010s so not complete in the details.
God I love that 40k goblin art XD
Yeah. I really love how it turned out!
It's pretty cool looking
Now THIS, is a RPG horror story, the most furry part about my char is a very tame "cursed by the goddess of anger into a catlike form" and so far, the only reference to is was some bandits saying "nothing personal, cat" after failed negotiations, I'm just glad I'm not this HYPER WEABOO EXTREME FETISH STUFF
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He hit the nail on the head. There is never one group of people. This problem with the Furry player faction is that according to the story they just want to play their game, but are using the Dark Heresy rules for it. They are ironically/hypocritically persecuting other people for not joining them. Note: There are Beastmen Mutants within the Imperium. I don't know if there are rules for them in Dark Heresy, but it should be simple. Its making them into the Mary Sues that Retcon 40years of Warhammer 40,000 lore that should be understandably aggravating.
What if Chewbacca and the Wookies were secretly the creators of the Force.
Its also relevant with Dungeons and Dragons. Some people have fun with using the rules to make their own settings, and others want to change everything to make an original setting. Most RPGHorrorStories begin with homebrew settings.
Honestly what did dm expect? Of all the games to put your self insert avatar in, you chose dark heresy? A game about hunting chaos and xenos monsters, typically by unrestricted and unsupervised zealots with nearly limitless resources and authority (or at least lackeys of said zealots). Not only that, but you made said self-insert, at best an abhuman that's REALLY towing the line of what's acceptable to your average imperial, and at worst mutant xeno underhiver scum that any arbites officer worth his brainwashing would annihilate on sight. I totally respect the dungeon master trying to have a tender moment with their players, but the only tenderness to be found in 40k is how tender the flesh of your enemies is after you knock them about once or twice with a power maul.
My guess is the DM thought that these people were actually his friends. I get that he did something that he really should not have expected to fly, but it sounds like these guys didn't even attempt to talk to him after it was clear he was really upset at revealing a part of himself getting treated like a dark humor punchline.
I think the GM went about this the wrong way sure, but at the end of the day was there another group of people playing another game setting that his character would have fit into better that he had access to?
I also get that the GMs conduct afterwards is pretty crappy (if we are taking it at face value), but I'm reminded of the old saying 'Hurt people hurt people'. There seems to never have been an attempt to repair the schism here, despite the poster talking a big game about how great friends they were before or how it was up to them to save their buddy (or at least ruin their game). But alas, a whole lot of this is and will forever be speculation on how truthful things are. Afterall, blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
It sounds like the players acted the way they should have given the setting, the DM left and didn't try to contact them until the Dark Furresy campaign
@@josephperez2004 The gm could've played most probably any other game, dnd 5e easily works as an example. Dark heresy was one of the worst choices to self insert.
@@vlad_ussr8390 Could he have played D&D by himself? There is no indication that this group played other games, though that would be the norm. The fact they were apparently blindsided by him having a furry character seems to suggest they never had a game were they could have fit in more easily. I'm sure it wouldn't have been so shocking if, say, they ran a D&D game and they commonly interacted with beastkin, shifters, minotaur, satyr, fauns, or other similar races.
Given how old this post supposedly is, it's likely well before the level of connectivity to find groups that fit you that we enjoy today. Twenty years ago, the local gaming group and what they wanted to play was all you had for most people, take it or leave it.
Edit: Self correction, out of curiosity I looked up publishing dates and the absolute earliest that they could be playing Dark Heresy would be 2008 if they were doing 1st edition, 2014 if doing 2nd edition. So twenty years is definitely not the timeline they were working on.
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The thing is that if the story is completely true, the DM had zero self-awareness and once the initial incident occurred he should have realised that “coming out as furry” isn’t a good idea. Sure having an interest in antro is fine, but being a furry isn’t something you need to share with everyone else during a 40k ttrpg, with added lore breakage to boot. There’s also the whole “don’t bring your kinks to the table” rule, which applies if he described the character in that much detail.
Granted trying to “save him from himself” was just a bad idea and I doubt the story is true, given the description of the furry players in general. However he shouldn’t have brought his magical realm to 40k, and should have read the room and realised that trying to bring a DM Mary Sue into the game would not work. Also don’t try to retcon the lore...unless you are GW.
Honestly if this was any setting other than 40k I think I'd be 100% on the DM's side. Blamming their benefactor was completely fair enough ("coming out" or not, the DM should've seen that coming a mile away), but to then go out of their way to sabotage the next game is frankly just a dick move. Not to mention how self-righteous and petty they sound describing it.
But it is 40k, and the DM should already have had some idea what they were like after the first game. Fool me once, and all that.
It sounds like literally any other TTRPG would have been a better choice in which to come out as a furry. Oh well; I wouldn't put something like that past myself from my closet-fur days. I'm glad he found his people! It's a shame this squad of 4chan dickweeds went around sabotaging games. Disagreeing with sweeping lore overhauls is one thing, but messing with a harmless community of oddballs is just petty.
4:08 it makes it infinitely more funny that hes a cop!😂
I heard the story the lore of 40k and watched TTS and the Furry purge itself even as a literal furry myself.
But I know I wasn't going to survive there as in the darkest moments of that place and I know I am struggling against the dying light where tomorrow, next week, month, year or even a decade,
I will die there but not today but had the moment to spare to.
I think there should be something said about a DM starting a campaign with hostility. Yes a couple of characters might be rivals bound to the group (actually sounds like fun), but it is the DM's job to assure that the campaign doesn't start with the players showing that same hostility.
In the last campaign you mentionned, it really sounded like, not only did the DM foster that hostility in session zero, but was using the game to enact some petty, toxic, and misguided revenge on the "normies."
8:20 oh no, not my adeptus, this furries can become part of the servitors for all I care, become fuel for the machine god
As a furry of several years myself, I've never cringed so hard at another furry. The whole retconning plot to make their "race" the reason behind anything good and have all the humans be evil traitors...ugh...I wouldn't be able to sit at that table. I'm glad I've never met any furries like that myself.
I definitely like this story because both sides seem to be their own horror story competing against each other and in the end, it just becomes a great cautionary tale. Any hobby or fandom trying to completely retcon another would go wrong like this. I knew someone who tried to make Warhammer more like Star Wars and explain major plot points using force. At a certain point you just have to concede people came to play Warhammer, not Star Wars.
Suffer not the mutant, the heretic, the witch.
Simple rule. Warhammer is NOT the place to bring up furry shit.
as a player since 1st edition. the inquisition has orangutan people that make micro weapons. so it isn't off canon that some xeno agents are possible. but also a servant of mankind would kill that xeno with fire as soon as looking at it.
For the first one;
Whoops.
As a furry and a an average 40k enjoyer
I found out the theme of 40k that is struggling against fate and survival of the fittest but in the end, everyone dies but I question myself how long will I survive there as a Freeblade Imperial knight which I used to play in my mobile game years ago.
Commisar! Theres a gretchin in the armory!
Jokes aside this was an entertaining story.
This gretchin comes in peace, not that anyone will believe him!
@@lootgoblinmarketplace eh we need every able body we can get, carry on guardsman.
The one thing that makes it absolutely hilarious is the fact that there are in lore furries in 40k and they are just abhumans who sometimes enroll into imperial guard nothing crazy
Im not defending the furry, but I would like to say that cat people do exist in warhammer and they are called the "felinids" (also the wulfen exist, so theres that too)
God all of this just hurts to hear. All these people need to leave each-other alone and touch some grass.
I think it's funny he says furries go to art school when in reality a lot of furries go in to STEM, for example Chise who worked on the covid vaccine
I'm yet to fully watch the video but as long as one picks up the weapon to fight for the emperor... it doesn't matter that much if he has more hair and maybe animal parts... as long as he can pass as a fucked up human
That is true, Abhumans definitely are still utilized by the emperor.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace thanks for the
tbh i have no problem with furries but yeah that is extremely in character for a 40k rp
I love the outfit, honestly.
Thank you, I got to do more warhammer stuff just so I can use it more! I don’t think the imperium of mankind would let my goblin live if they ever found out he was sneaking around the 40k universe though, 😂
Sounds like everyone were Jackwagons, but it still made me laugh.
homie, i know they made their own shitty little furry canon, and i find it cringe too, but in NO WAY does that excuse deliberately joining a game just to ruin it, like does live and let live not mean anything anymore????
I just cant for the life of me stop thinking about the furry crusades series from flashgitz.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, furries in 40k would absolutely work if you're not afraid to let the lore be more messed up than humans were mean to us''.
*Play W40k*
*Be shocked players kill other race with extreme prejudice*
yay warhammer
I just had to cover this one now that I got the new avatar!
Nice.
Honestly, this horrorstory has alerted me to the fact that WH40K isnt my cup of tea. Just a bit too grimdark for my liking.
As for the events unique to the story itself, OP is an instigating prick. They couldve just found a GM that wasnt an equally petty manchild and lived a happier life. Instead, they fed these people's victim complexes and forwarded their "fursecution" narrative by going out of their way to antagonize them for being furries. Yes, they stomped all over the 40K lore with the meer existence of their characters, but you couldve left it at "correction, dead." but no! They had to bully people who were already holing themselves up in echochambers and thus becoming even further societal outcasts.
I remember a horror story from this
I could totally see a horror story being written from the other POV. The writer here totally sabotaged the second campaign.
@@lootgoblinmarketplace I'll see if I can find it. A guy's group found out he's a furry and immediately assume, he's a *** and trys stealing his girlfriend and savatages his campaign citing this story as inspiration.
If this story is true. It’s kind of shitty to sabotage someone else’s game.
Ah this story is good.. in many ways...
Heresy
Heresy indeed
Sounds like the op just wanted to be a troll lol but it sounds like the furries were being shits
Being a furry... even i kinda hate this furry dnd group making up bullshit
they were mega cringe, other "normal" guys were just total assholes tho, both sides were bad but interesting.
Yeah, it’s a true 40k story. Everyone was a jerk.
From my experience, the 40k community is 45% powergamers (partially because the main tabletop wargame kinda demands it with how broken it is), 45% wannabe Black Templars/Khorne Berserkers/, 5% immature (like the GM from the story) and 5% chill people. The whole setting just kinda attracts a lot of questionable people.
@@VestedUTuberthat's why I love the community. Normies and soft people have no way to changing the content like other franchises because of the gatekeeping. You either accept the content for its dark fantasy horror or you don't join lol.
@@mo6964
I bet you hate the recent lore additions for 8th, 9th and 10th edition, then. 40k's been on a bit of a nobledark kick lately, with the return of Guilliman and the pseudo-revival of the Emperor.
Doesn't always have to be the community that changes things. GW is focused primarily on appealing to as wide an audience as possible, like most major companies, and they probably realized that they'd be writing themselves into a corner if they kept pushing things further.
@@VestedUTuber popularity would kill the product, but yup i get it; they got to make that money. I havent read all the new stuff yet, I started with the ghants ghosts and cain books. Everything ive seen of it doesnt seem bad or at least i havent heard anything too bad. There are so many books so i got years of reading and listening still lol.
I am not against all furries, only against cringy ones
Warhammer and furry is not a good mix. The universe full of hate, xenophoby and racist seaking acceptance is not whise. At least not if you want to go with universum rules and ways of thinking.
From the other hand... even empire of man has furry (Space Wolves)
It's definitely a horror story, and is mildly amusing, if only for cheaters to be taken down a peg by c!@#s. I can't really root for OP though. In any other game what he and his circle did to escalate the conflict would paint them as !@#holes. However, they get to escape that fate because they happen to be playing a game where xenophobia is not only celebrated, but it trumps all other concerns, including basic logic. I acknowledge that the furry referee was introducing elements to his story that fly in the face of standard 40K lore, and he should have said as much before the game started. If he had done so, then the OP and his cohorts would be entirely in the wrong. As it stands, they had a right to be irritated at having furry aliens being inserted into what seems like otherwise bog standard lore. However, the decent thing to do in that case would be to walk. So they are still sh!@#$%s in my mind for returning and "teaching the furry and his circle a lesson." Why would we want to bolster the numbers of a niche subset of an already niche fandom? I guess they took the lessons of 40K to heart. LOL
True, this story was a horror story only 40k could provide. No real good guys and a lot of warring factions
i find 4chan humor just as cringe as the things they poke fun about, but you actually manage to make it bearable, which is an amazing achievement, that's for sure lol
Thank you, that is a big compliment! I definitely get what you mean because some of the terminology is rough.
Hmmm not sure how I feel about this one. Like, cool, they can be better RPears, but they're the bigger assholes. Framing as you'd like, they infiltrated the game with the intent of killing the furry characters. Is that cringe? Yeah. Is it 40k lore accurate to be furries? Heck no. Did they HAD to go there and sabotage their "friend" fun JUST to be lore accurate? Also no. That's honestly what I despise about the 40k fanbase. Just live and let live man. What really baffles me is how much you seem to be on OP's side, even after you recognized they went a bit too far. I don't know, this doesn't feel like a RPGHorrorStory, sounds more like an RPGShamingStory or BullyingStory.
Speaking from the amateur profiler in me, I find it easy to imagine that someone who seems as judgemental, confrontational, and disrespectful as I sense OP to be, could be describing things in a less than accurate way. I get that when a bunch of "gross nerds", if you pardon the expression, with a common interest to bond over, can get a little insular and indulgent with their world-building and roleplaying, I can also imagine a group of people who have found a group, who share an interest that they themselves have learned can attract hostility, may want to take an existing narrative that they enjoy, and tailor it to their aforementioned interest as a place to freely and safely explore the setting. Which is it? We can't know. But I noticed right away the tone of the OP, and I feel like I'm pretty close to convinced that he's just a dick either way. Whether the furries were also contributing is a separate matter.
I think the thing that really stands out to me is that OP describes the DM as a pretty normal and cool and sane guy until, at the moment he reveals to his "friend" that he's a furry, he suddenly is a creepy weirdo with a sick fetish. They even seem open that this is the reason for the change in perception.
I'm no Furry. I think it's pretty gross. But I don't think people that like it are gross. Just people. People who like things I don't. I find it increasingly frustrating that certain members of the Human species can't get on the same page as the rest of us on this. Your Kink Is Not My Kink, But Your Kink Is Okay.
I agree but he describes it as gross cause of how his friend starts to act and who they hang out with, which dare I say is reasonable. Now of course it's possible that a lot of it is hyperbolic but that isn't something we can check, so we assume it's true.
Though, I wouldn't say OP is wrong, even if he is being dick-ish. Introducing a Xeno race to the imperium, makes 0 sense. None, and their reactions makes sense to kill furries. As xenophobia in imperium is not surprising. They barely treat beastmen as ab-human.
If the OP is to be believed, then the DM’s change in behave coincides with him dealing with the furry fandom. I’ve got no experience with that side of the internet...but fandoms can change people for the worse, especially if they’re insular and spearheaded by folks who want to make a sort of cult. Essentially the issue wasn’t the DM being a furry, but that he let it take over.
Strangely I'm rooting for op cuase that was funny 😁
What a gigachad, op is a living legend for bullying some furry people for no reason. Ruined thier dnd night and felt so good about it that he went on reddit to gain free carma for his "lmao lied to a friend and made him feel bad."
Tldr: Both degenerates and cringe.
Qaa
Sounds like it was written by a 40 year old larping as a 16 year old.
Well it IS /tg/ after all
That seems spot on honestly