One thing I forgot to mention! Recovery from Tramadol addiction, in my experience, can take longer than other opiates. The low mood and low energy in particular but other thing such as insomnia and restless legs too. But with the correct diet, exercise, supplements etc you can help your recovery along. Check out my videos on PAWS for more tips . I promise it will get better🙏🏼 Keep moving forward! Much love
Does suboxone help with the depression withdrawals? And don’t you think that by going on suboxone you are simply swapping one substance for another and are still enslaved to a drug?
My addiction started in 2017 taking 15 mg per day, to 2021 taking 20 pills of 50 mg per day. Suffered an overdose, I almost died. Started slowing the dose (one pill per week), by 10 pills, I knew I was in hell. Among other things, your videos kept me alive Tim, and for that I will be eternally grateful. I now know what pure nightmarish hell feels, and just knowing that today I'm clean and alive is enough to be grateful.
I’ve been taking them for 10 year now. My Mrs gets a script every 2 weeks and hardly uses them. Been through so many withdrawals. I have access to codeine too so I would just take them to help. As you say, it’s the headspace and energy you get from them that’s so good.
4th month off the tramadol for me now thank you Tim for all you help.I was taking 50 a day at the worst part of my addiction and im only now starting to get back to normal.
@@linzieloo1 how is the doctor dropping you from that amount?? Mine dropped me a tablet a week to wean myself off them and I used to have to pick them up everyday as they wouldn't give me my full script
@@linzieloo1I was popping tramadol tabs daily on script for long term pain. I was addicted. One day the chemist while I submitted script had no tablets so gave me tramadol in soluble form. St first was great as hit faster but I literally had pain in butt having get water esp when in work etc so found myself starting to not bother like I did with tablet form. Even now I have boxes at hand but now literally only take when I need for pain. Bizarre but think the universe stepped in to change my habit.
You are right Tim Tramadol is the nightmare from hell ,I couldn't quit them without Espranor (Buprenorphine) which I'm still on ,and at some point will wean off ,at the moment I don't think I'll ever be able to do it .. I'm 62 now and if I have to stay on the Espranor for the rest of my days I think so be it . I was taking about 10 50mg capsules of tramadol a day at the height of my addiction. ,also topping up with codeine , i know some people were taking a lot more . But you are so right Tim the withdrawal from Tramadol is horrendous ,the restless leg syndrome, aches and pains,anxiety depression is awful .
I am hoping to god i can get of these tramdol and with your help. Videos are inspiring. I like you always had alcohol then just before i turned 40 i hit tramadol and it was great for a while but.now its just missrable. Currently on 8 to 10 tramadol tablets and between 3 and 6 co codamol 30/500 and this has been constant for about 5 years. Hoping your videos help me.
I broke my neck. Need a C4 and C5 spinal fusion and C2 bone graft. I got given Tramadol. My medical aid declined the surgery now Inhave been at Chiropractor for 3 years and on tramadol. Around 4 to 8 per day. I cant sleep normally when I take them. I need to take 1 or 2 Ativans to calm down and sleep. If Idont take them for 1 day I cant sleep. Restless. I get brain shocks. Feel like I will get a heart attack. The neck pain is terrible but the tramadol use is hell. Not sure what to do. 😢
Is it just me or does tramadol, unlike other opioids, give a lot of weird intrusive thoughts, racing mind, an inner critic as well as dreams that are unpleasant due to just how bizarre the dreams are? I think this is happening to me even though my daily tramadol dose is so low (25-50 mg)
It has a antidepressant (ssri) effect on the brain aswell as opiate. It’s a synthetically manufactured drug. This can sometimes give the effects your experiencing .
I've experienced the same negative thoughts and the lack of motivation to do even the simplest tasks is what makes me look for them. I'm happy I was able to reduce my frequency of usage to only weekends or double a week. Tramadol is quite a double whammy, feel good now and suffer later
Im on suboxone and gabapentin. I have to stay on gabapentin for neuropathic pain. Hoping the gabs will help when im finally done with subs. The gabs give me energy too though
Same. I've been prescribed all sorts of "bad" and "highly addictive" meds in the past and never once moved on to harder drugs or had withdrawals etc... It really just comes down to self control and it's a shame people who actually need these meds are denied because people cannot control themselves. Much like alcohol addiction (which you can buy anywhere) or obesity. I don't see the FDA shutting down fast food restaurants or pulling alcohol from the shelves, but pills.... oh no... those are bad because some people cannot control themselves so everyone has to suffer. This is a people problem, not a drug problem.
I'm 5 months off both O-DSMT (O-Desmetramadol) + Kratom and still feeling like absolute hell! Endless anxiety, depression, anhedonia, fatigue, low energy and motivation. Plus, still dealing with physical symptoms such as hot flashes, heart palpitations and just bad malaise. I'm so sick of having to live like this! Please tell me when it will get better! Feel like I've permanently fried my brain and now have to live crippled because of these stupid drugs.
I feel for you my friend 🙏🏼 Firstly it’s fantastic you’ve been free of both these things for 5 months, that takes alot of strength! I was exactly the same as you at 5 months , especially fatigue! All I can promise is that if you keep going , making sure your eating and hydrated well. Supplements like strong b vitamins, magnesium, omega 3 (1000mg) and zinc all helped me and even pushing yourself to move/ walk outside daily all slowly brought me back to full strength! You will get there , your brain and body will heal I promise! Have a look at my videos on PAWS they may help you. Good luck 🙏🏼
Kratom is fantastic when you don't get hooked on it, Don't worry your brain is not fried you just need some time to heal and treat you depression amd fatigue you'll start to feel normal again, iv done worse shit like computer duster and alot ALOT in just a few months did it everyday after I got sober and had some time to heal and treated my depression a bit I felt fine again. I read books, paint, play piano and guitar play card games and puzzles and think deeply about the world, you'll be fine the human body has incredible healing, when I think of real superpowers I think of how we can heal from lots of things
@@mabyonedayicanbehappyI really hope you're right. It's been 9 months now and I still feel very messed up in the head. I had none of this shit prior to these drugs, the anxiety, the depression, the apathy, the anhedonia. I was sober for 35 years so I know what normal feels like. God damn, it feels like I cut my life short now.
@@martinevans5000 I did a really brief taper for a month, but the interdose withdrawals became so bad I couldn't taper down anymore. I went like a week without sleep and thought I was going to die. So I said fuck it and just quit cold turkey after that. The acute withdrawals weren't so bad but the PAWS was what did me under. Like I said, I'm still suffering badly from PAWS after 9 months. I can't work and can't function at all. I assume I won't normalize at all until at least 2 years. If you can taper down to zero, that's definitely better than cold turkey. Some people like me though just can't taper. Kratom is as difficult to get off as any hardcore opiate/opioid. I know someone who tried to quit for 7 years and never was able to do it. Good luck to both you and I to get out of this hell we've dug ourselves into!
I take a few tramadol every 24hrs (so about 20hrs between taking them) and dont really get any withdrawal symptoms. Does that mean I'm not really physical addicted to them? Theyre short acting
But what do you think Tim ??? Is that bad for my health especially the liver kidneys and pancreas because I am worried about it It’s nice to drink but withdrawals and diseases are not funny at all!!!!!
Hi there if you go on Tim’s channel there are loads of videos on alcohol problems as he has been addicted to alcohol as well. Also if you go on and ask Tim a question if often will respond. Hope that helps
Hi Tim, I've just discovered my girlfriend of six months is addicted to tramadol. She is in total denial, and has blocked me from all social media when I suggested she go through rehab. How should I proceed?
Leave her alone nothing you can do. I’m been addicted for over 10 years and my ex partner tried to help but at end of day she’s got to want to stop herself.
I was given tramadol for back pain but never took it due to fear. I took an SNRI called duloxetine instead which I taper on and taper off every few months. So far I’ve had no problems tapering off.
Stay strong friend,I do them in moderation once per week, I was able to avoid the daily use once I actually went ahead with my suicidal thoughts and overdosed...This drug is quite dangerous once you get addicted. You've helped many of us, and you can do it
Thank you so much Tim for your videos. Each month I’m on the rollercoaster of hell to come off this crap. Did you quit cold Turkey yourself? Or did you taper? You mentioned going on the subox but how low did you taper prior to this and still struggle?
Tim thank you so very for all your kindness you are helping so many people. Do you mind me asking what was the highest amount you took of Tramadol and how long you were taking it for?
At its worst I was taking 20 to 30 tablets a day , this was after a period of time when my tolerance had massively increased ! It went on for over 2 years!
Thank you for the years of straight talk! I recently discovered two close relatives are on tramadol.. One denies taking it, the other saying one a day. Both suffering mental illness now. Going doctors with the one a day relative tomorrow, same doctors that prescribe them 🫠
One thing I forgot to mention! Recovery from Tramadol addiction, in my experience, can take longer than other opiates. The low mood and low energy in particular but other thing such as insomnia and restless legs too. But with the correct diet, exercise, supplements etc you can help your recovery along. Check out my videos on PAWS for more tips . I promise it will get better🙏🏼 Keep moving forward! Much love
It’s like opiates and benzo withdrawal. You get brain zaps, and seizure threshold lowers
Opiate addict for 15 yrs (almost a year clean on suboxone) and hands down tramadol was the most sinister withdrawal
Does suboxone help with the depression withdrawals? And don’t you think that by going on suboxone you are simply swapping one substance for another and are still enslaved to a drug?
My addiction started in 2017 taking 15 mg per day, to 2021 taking 20 pills of 50 mg per day. Suffered an overdose, I almost died. Started slowing the dose (one pill per week), by 10 pills, I knew I was in hell. Among other things, your videos kept me alive Tim, and for that I will be eternally grateful. I now know what pure nightmarish hell feels, and just knowing that today I'm clean and alive is enough to be grateful.
Well done Ewing you should be very proud! Keep moving forward and getting stronger! Enjoy your life my friend, every second counts 🙏🏼 Much love
15mg?
I almost just died, I took a lot and couldn’t sleep so added zzquil. Omg it was 4 days of confusion and hell
I’ve been taking them for 10 year now. My Mrs gets a script every 2 weeks and hardly uses them. Been through so many withdrawals. I have access to codeine too so I would just take them to help.
As you say, it’s the headspace and energy you get from them that’s so good.
4th month off the tramadol for me now thank you Tim for all you help.I was taking 50 a day at the worst part of my addiction and im only now starting to get back to normal.
@@linzieloo1 iv got a friend who's script I used to buy but but he charges £5 for 10 of them
@@linzieloo1 how is the doctor dropping you from that amount?? Mine dropped me a tablet a week to wean myself off them and I used to have to pick them up everyday as they wouldn't give me my full script
@@linzieloo1 I have some ,about 5 boxes (500) which I had left after going on to buprenorphine ,in the UK too
@@linzieloo1I was popping tramadol tabs daily on script for long term pain. I was addicted. One day the chemist while I submitted script had no tablets so gave me tramadol in soluble form. St first was great as hit faster but I literally had pain in butt having get water esp when in work etc so found myself starting to not bother like I did with tablet form. Even now I have boxes at hand but now literally only take when I need for pain. Bizarre but think the universe stepped in to change my habit.
@@linzieloo1 who do you want to message ?
You are right Tim Tramadol is the nightmare from hell ,I couldn't quit them without Espranor (Buprenorphine) which I'm still on ,and at some point will wean off ,at the moment I don't think I'll ever be able to do it ..
I'm 62 now and if I have to stay on the Espranor for the rest of my days I think so be it .
I was taking about 10 50mg capsules of tramadol a day at the height of my addiction. ,also topping up with codeine , i know some people were taking a lot more .
But you are so right Tim the withdrawal from Tramadol is horrendous ,the restless leg syndrome, aches and pains,anxiety depression is awful .
Welcome to the club!
I am hoping to god i can get of these tramdol and with your help. Videos are inspiring. I like you always had alcohol then just before i turned 40 i hit tramadol and it was great for a while but.now its just missrable. Currently on 8 to 10 tramadol tablets and between 3 and 6 co codamol 30/500 and this has been constant for about 5 years. Hoping your videos help me.
I broke my neck. Need a C4 and C5 spinal fusion and C2 bone graft. I got given Tramadol. My medical aid declined the surgery now Inhave been at Chiropractor for 3 years and on tramadol. Around 4 to 8 per day. I cant sleep normally when I take them. I need to take 1 or 2 Ativans to calm down and sleep. If Idont take them for 1 day I cant sleep. Restless. I get brain shocks. Feel like I will get a heart attack. The neck pain is terrible but the tramadol use is hell. Not sure what to do. 😢
Is it just me or does tramadol, unlike other opioids, give a lot of weird intrusive thoughts, racing mind, an inner critic as well as dreams that are unpleasant due to just how bizarre the dreams are? I think this is happening to me even though my daily tramadol dose is so low (25-50 mg)
It has a antidepressant (ssri) effect on the brain aswell as opiate. It’s a synthetically manufactured drug. This can sometimes give the effects your experiencing .
I've experienced the same negative thoughts and the lack of motivation to do even the simplest tasks is what makes me look for them. I'm happy I was able to reduce my frequency of usage to only weekends or double a week. Tramadol is quite a double whammy, feel good now and suffer later
Thank you for the video is I am one that takes Tramadol
Im on suboxone and gabapentin. I have to stay on gabapentin for neuropathic pain. Hoping the gabs will help when im finally done with subs. The gabs give me energy too though
Why would anyone get addicted lol. They suck no high
Same. I've been prescribed all sorts of "bad" and "highly addictive" meds in the past and never once moved on to harder drugs or had withdrawals etc... It really just comes down to self control and it's a shame people who actually need these meds are denied because people cannot control themselves. Much like alcohol addiction (which you can buy anywhere) or obesity. I don't see the FDA shutting down fast food restaurants or pulling alcohol from the shelves, but pills.... oh no... those are bad because some people cannot control themselves so everyone has to suffer. This is a people problem, not a drug problem.
Did you notice some of these people were taking 10-15 a day. No wonder they're addicted.
@@MeaThreattoDemocracy dumb.
I'm 5 months off both O-DSMT (O-Desmetramadol) + Kratom and still feeling like absolute hell! Endless anxiety, depression, anhedonia, fatigue, low energy and motivation. Plus, still dealing with physical symptoms such as hot flashes, heart palpitations and just bad malaise. I'm so sick of having to live like this! Please tell me when it will get better! Feel like I've permanently fried my brain and now have to live crippled because of these stupid drugs.
I feel for you my friend 🙏🏼 Firstly it’s fantastic you’ve been free of both these things for 5 months, that takes alot of strength! I was exactly the same as you at 5 months , especially fatigue! All I can promise is that if you keep going , making sure your eating and hydrated well. Supplements like strong b vitamins, magnesium, omega 3 (1000mg) and zinc all helped me and even pushing yourself to move/ walk outside daily all slowly brought me back to full strength! You will get there , your brain and body will heal I promise! Have a look at my videos on PAWS they may help you. Good luck 🙏🏼
Kratom is fantastic when you don't get hooked on it,
Don't worry your brain is not fried you just need some time to heal and treat you depression amd fatigue you'll start to feel normal again, iv done worse shit like computer duster and alot ALOT in just a few months did it everyday after I got sober and had some time to heal and treated my depression a bit I felt fine again. I read books, paint, play piano and guitar play card games and puzzles and think deeply about the world, you'll be fine the human body has incredible healing, when I think of real superpowers I think of how we can heal from lots of things
@@mabyonedayicanbehappyI really hope you're right. It's been 9 months now and I still feel very messed up in the head. I had none of this shit prior to these drugs, the anxiety, the depression, the apathy, the anhedonia. I was sober for 35 years so I know what normal feels like. God damn, it feels like I cut my life short now.
@@sternkrieger1950did you quit cold turkey? I'm just about to try getting off
@@martinevans5000 I did a really brief taper for a month, but the interdose withdrawals became so bad I couldn't taper down anymore. I went like a week without sleep and thought I was going to die. So I said fuck it and just quit cold turkey after that.
The acute withdrawals weren't so bad but the PAWS was what did me under. Like I said, I'm still suffering badly from PAWS after 9 months. I can't work and can't function at all. I assume I won't normalize at all until at least 2 years.
If you can taper down to zero, that's definitely better than cold turkey. Some people like me though just can't taper.
Kratom is as difficult to get off as any hardcore opiate/opioid. I know someone who tried to quit for 7 years and never was able to do it.
Good luck to both you and I to get out of this hell we've dug ourselves into!
I take a few tramadol every 24hrs (so about 20hrs between taking them) and dont really get any withdrawal symptoms. Does that mean I'm not really physical addicted to them? Theyre short acting
Your body is still used to them , it can take around 48-72 hours according to the NHS for them to fully be dispelled from the body
@@raychieeliz7658 Gave it a try and after about 28 hours I started to get nervous/anxious. Time to lower doses/quit.
I drink only beer
I have no limit when I start that means like 4 liter during a day
I don’t drink everyday
😢
But what do you think Tim ???
Is that bad for my health especially the liver kidneys and pancreas because I am worried about it
It’s nice to drink but withdrawals and diseases are not funny at all!!!!!
Hi there if you go on Tim’s channel there are loads of videos on alcohol problems as he has been addicted to alcohol as well. Also if you go on and ask Tim a question if often will respond. Hope that helps
How are doing?
Hi Tim, I've just discovered my girlfriend of six months is addicted to tramadol. She is in total denial, and has blocked me from all social media when I suggested she go through rehab. How should I proceed?
Leave her alone nothing you can do. I’m been addicted for over 10 years and my ex partner tried to help but at end of day she’s got to want to stop herself.
I got some off a friend, 50 mg, to help with depression and sleep. Had a couple and seemed to relax me but scared of getting addicted
Wow, very useful info. Thank you for spreading awareness!
I was given tramadol for back pain but never took it due to fear. I took an SNRI called duloxetine instead which I taper on and taper off every few months. So far I’ve had no problems tapering off.
Yeah this stuff is horrible. very much worse that oxy withdrawal.
Stay strong friend,I do them in moderation once per week, I was able to avoid the daily use once I actually went ahead with my suicidal thoughts and overdosed...This drug is quite dangerous once you get addicted. You've helped many of us, and you can do it
Oh shit Tim.I am again in these things (all of them)
Start to zero i am.
I come back.enough for today😮😢
Ty for the advise. Stay strong brother
I had my ticket to spain 1/2 ordered online !!!
Some people grow giant poppy and harvest the opioid
Tramadol withdrawal is not easy road it's really takes a toll on u
7.53: As well as all the symptoms of an snri withdrawal 😉
Thank you so much Tim for your videos. Each month I’m on the rollercoaster of hell to come off this crap.
Did you quit cold Turkey yourself? Or did you taper? You mentioned going on the subox but how low did you taper prior to this and still struggle?
Hi I tapered very very slowly down to 5 mg . Get a doctors help with reducing. Cold turkey is very dangerous with tramadol . Good luck 🙏🏼
Thanks for the info
Hi
Tim thank you so very for all your kindness you are helping so many people. Do you mind me asking what was the highest amount you took of Tramadol and how long you were taking it for?
At its worst I was taking 20 to 30 tablets a day , this was after a period of time when my tolerance had massively increased ! It went on for over 2 years!
@@TimJohnsonrecovery thank you so very much for your honestly, it helps a lot to know that others have been through this.
Thank you for the years of straight talk! I recently discovered two close relatives are on tramadol..
One denies taking it, the other saying one a day. Both suffering mental illness now. Going doctors with the one a day relative tomorrow, same doctors that prescribe them 🫠