Opioid Taper or Cold Turkey. Ryan's OPINION
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i went cold turkey. june 9th on my bday an i feel grate. i got my life back. thank god
Demetrius Smith that's encouraging mate.... Thanks
GOOD WORK MATE, I WISH I CAN DO IT, I KEEP TRYING BUT FLOP
Sailor Jerry Swallow me too :/(
@Snap C1ty keep it up bro, im trying again sunday...l hope it works, taper sucks, cold turkey, if i got anything, i,ll take it, so taper is out..........
Sailor Jerry Swallow same here
This man is a Saint. I can't describe how much of my strength comes from his videos.
I've just tapered down, I'm basically taking one fifth of my original dose and today is my first day in 5 years with zero opioids. I failed taking down my doses a few times, so instead I increased time between doses (from 6 hours to 8, then 10, 12, 18, 24, now I'm here). This took me a month or so. The actual time isn't really important, its about pushing yourself everyday. Hope this helps someone, and wish me luck for the next few days :)
How are you doing now?
@@hannahmitchell87 I struggled with tapering on and off for a few years after this, but I eventually got clean 30/10/20 and have stayed clean since. Getting into a 12-step program helped me make the jump
I wish you luck. I failed 3 times before I could get clean but I am today! GL
It wouldn’t hit you the first day, it would hit you about 24-48 hours after your last dose.
Ryan had real compassion for other people and their issues. A very kind man. You could see the "feels" coming out at the end. This subject was very close to his heart. He has my highest respect for his caring about others. Rest in Peace my Dear Sir. Sorry, I never was able to meet you. You helped old guys like me, understand this current issue.
Damn he died?
This was me too! You won the battle! RIP brother!
Whhaaat? Who died? This guy Ryan? Nooooo smh
Damn rip
@Carlos Baez Blood clot. Pulmonary embolism.
Haha Derek Lambert.. I watch your shit all the time
You will be forever missed Ryan, thank you for all the lives you’ve touched. Rest In Peace dear friend.
What happen to Ryan?
@@elimuro3173heart attack bro
@@Paradoxblue352It was an embolisn
So Very Very Sad. Miss you so much Ryan
This guy was such a solid dude. RIP
How did he pass!!!!!!
@@jonathanadkins5697 pulmonary embolism
Mark Matches omg I’ve been watching his videos and had no idea he had passed. He has helped me so much without even living I can’t believe it.
How do you know he passed @@JamesLee-lk4kx
This is helping me right now. Rest in peace, Ryan and thank you!
New to this guy, how did bro pass?
Addiction is hell
Alexander von Makedonien but being sober is heaven👍
Makedonija
thank god this guys out there. he's as real and positive as it gets
You left something for people like myself to get motivation from and I am on day nine or ten today cold turkey, I honestly stopped counting the days and am just counting weeks so week two right now. Thank you brother I needed this. Rest in peace my brother.
I am now clean from 150 mg!! Did a long taper. I ain't saying it was easy!! Not even close,but I had my eye on the prize!! Taper is the best way!! I am grateful for my spiritual condition__AA/NA for their endless support!! Free from the "BEAST".Thank You Ryan Donnelly for the "Motivation"and endless videos that have made me "Happy" Joyous and Free. You are a true brother and I am a big fan😄😄😄😄😄
michael gent care to elaborate what your taper schedule was like?
I nearly tapered to zero several times.. Everyday feeling slightly wack and smacked is not so cool and when you close to zero and get off the mental and psychological aspect will be much more subtil then going to hell for a week and then beeing human again and have your life back. I'mon day three now and to feel better now from hour to hour and all those videos give me hope.
The one thing is good when tapering to a certain dose is to prevent EXTREME withdrawals. GOD BLESS guys
RIP, Ryan. Thank you.
Overdose?
Jesse Adreon no he had a rare blood disorder and died from blood clots. He died sober.
When did he pass?? Why did he pass? 😳😭😔
T5E3C25 3M0G I heard it from a few different RUclipsrs and he had done several videos about his health scares with blood clots. He had a disorder. It is what took his life unfortunately
I laughed when you said that your taper lasted two hours. I can totally relate.
ryan can you talk about suboxone and any success stories getting off that since so many of us are now on this shit or methadone and trying to get off. these doctors at clinics just ask if you've had any cravings, take ur money and ask if your dose is high enough. considering getting kicked out on purpose just because going there gives me cravings and i feel like I'm not a person when there and i haven't touched hard drugs in years and have never even taken a full suboxone in my life. its just sad man. this video was awesome seeing the emotion at the end, i feel u.
that was no taper. lol
so true... this is a great video
I can't believe you're gone Ryan...I'm so sad...I wish your family love and peace...xoxo...May your kids know you were a hero, in more ways than one.,
He died?
you are a amazingly good person Ryan.
Thanks brother for your valuable support
Always with your Sweet memories
MISS YOU
RIP
You're an amazing person and a man of God . Thank you for your advices really help me a lot.
He passed away from a pulmonary embolism in Oct 2018.
I am actually going through it RIGHT NOW - COLD TURKEY off of METHADONE. U really helped my whole process of thinking Right now.. I was on it for 10 years. & I was Tapering off, then my car breaks down, just ALOT of crap, so here I am. I feel like hell, but, I know it will go away sometime.. THANK YOU!!
TitanDrall I am taking 130 mg of methadone and I am ready to get off, i am going to taper down
Cbd, theanine. Clonidine. Zofran, immodium, passionflower valerian root.
R.i.p Ryan,only found you today,may God have mercy for this great man,love and meet you one day mate
I've grown such a relationship with your presence in your videos i feel like you are talking directly to me every time.
Glad you care about people enough to spend your time trying to help them.God bless you,and he will for what you do.
i was in pain management for about 2yrs. I got tired of feeling like death when I had to wait on my refill (ins issues, pharmacy paperwork, dr didn't write script to last until next apt-etc.) When I called my Dr to ask for stomach meds that I wanted to get off the pills he refused to give me anything to help- not even diharea meds-- but told me to come in to my next apt & get my refill. I chose not to go to my apt. and quit cold turkey. Not all drs are this way- but this was my situation. So tapering wasn't an option given to me. If I had been given the option to taper ida prolly went back to Dr after feeling bad & chickened out getting right back on my usual dose. For me when I didn't go in to get my refill missing an apt was an automatic kick out of the office. So I knew when I did that I was in for the long haul- no going back. I fought like hell for my life. Hardest thing I ever did- but I made it. I am glad I just went for it & Got that shiz over with- out of the way. Before I knew it the 30 days were over with. Then 2mnths, 3mnths. In a few days I will be 7months free of the poison. I am like a diff person. I am not homebound anymore nor sleeping all the time. I am cooking meals & spending time with my children. I have a girls night planned for this Friday (dressing up in 90's clothes themed) I am getting my friends back. I am getting me back. No longer a daily prisoner to a pill. I am living life. Soo much better than I was. I guess to each their own way of getting off the stuff- whichever way- there is life on the other side :))
Bbruby Thank u for ur comment...when u say, "hardest thing I ever did."" those words rang so true!! I am 54 years old and on methadone for 6 years. I am currently tapering 1 mgs a week...sounds pathetic I know, but at least I feel I am moving in the right direction. Just enough to keep putting one foot in front of the other. The way I see it, in a year from now I will either be 55 years old and on 52 mgs LESS a day than I take now, OR in a year I will be 55 years old still taking the same dose and dreaming of one day tapering off. The world keeps turning, that much is for sure...it is indeed the hardest thing I have ever done, and I am grateful for the hope people like you bring!
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Inspirational! Are you still doing well?
LOVE ❤❤❤
great video again! BTW I'm getting great support from people in the FFH chat room. Its a good place to be. Thanks again Ryan for all you do. Your program is key to my recovery! I wanna mirror your success in sobriety man!
I was happy to see the title of this video on the notification! I have been in a methadone maintenance program for over a year now, and clean for a year now, and due to a series of events this week I lost the six take homes I got per week. I am now on a 21 day detox and my dose was lowered from 100mg to 40mg overnight.. and it's starting to suck! I have thought many times in recent months that I wished I had just gone cold turkey, but the fear of that was too much when I was first getting clean.. I am just grateful that I will be 100% free of all drugs, including methadone, in less than a month for the first time in a decade! c: Thank you so much for all of your videos! We need many, many more people like you in the recovery world!
I went cold turkey 140 mg of methadone after 6 years on it. It actually helped me never to touch opiates again. And befor it I couldn’t imagine life without opiates. Go threw that hell helped and taught me so much.
Ryan . Thanks man
I've watched so many of ur vids.
I'm tapering from 10yrs subs
16mg to 1.6 current.
You are a real help to me. This taper has taken 4 yrs so far. Absolutely obvs not rushed it.
Anyway you are a true inspiration.
Thanks
@dave jones
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but today I found out Ryan passed away from a pulmonary embolism... I'm a dependent pain patient, not an abuser but I feel like I lost a friend. He helped a LOT of people. I'm pretty sure the medication he was taking for blood thinning was what killed him. I worked in the medical industry for years and saw how they hid and manipulated data to make their products look good.The newest range of blood thinners such as xarelto and eliquis are especially dangerous. Nothing we can do now but warn people...
I wish I could have met this man. He was doing gods work. I have a little different opinion then him but that’s why we talk to each other.
I'm on day 3. I used subutex successfully for the first time. Extremely helpful as long as you take it at the correct time. Everything you say very right on.
miss tiddliewinks hope your still going strong😊
How’s your battle?
Went from 150 Methadone to now at 5mg .Been there for a month!!(5mg) Pretty much need to go as low as I can before leaving to go to the other side!! I am a exercise enthusiast. Looking forward to finally clean.Havent used Heroin since 1999!! Only have taken Methadone as prescribed since then!! My Taper has take years p.Thank You Ryan!! My name is Michael.Starting using Heroin IV at 13 and Methadone on and odd since 22__I am 58 now and I will be clean!!
how hard was it to taper off methadone, I'm on 180 and need to taper at some point
Jon Dobitsky I was on 110 mgs for about 7 yrs & have came down to now 29 mgs...Once you start detoxing & get over in your head the whole "coming down" thing, its not bad...but you have to stick to it & not dip in your take homes. By the way- 1 mg/ a week, it's a slow process I know, but it works!
michael gent stay on course man , your doing great....!
Now down to 2-1/2 Milligrams!! Almost ready to jump off,but I want to go down to 1-1/4. I will let you know how it goes.
where do you live? which state? THe clinics here in sc are god awful
At the end of the day, I believe it all comes down to being honest with yourself.
Lol easier to say than do. The devil play games
I am doing the taper at the moment and that is hard enough I coming down from over 200 mg oxy loratab perc and herion combo So its narley to say the least, Circumstances have pushed me to where I am broke, the doctors wont subscribe much and I ve been on them for serious back pain 20 years now. Fear is encompassing me and I am 100 percent alone . I am so glad that I am not on Methadone sounds like a harder detox and I was thinking about going to clinic and dosing each day but I am going to give this 100 percent of my effort! Thank you for these videos I remember you from 5 years back when I got a shady dr. who was arrested and thought I wouldnt find another, but I did and the cycle continued . I am wishing all of us addicted strength to just make it through to the other side ! You give me much hope because you have been on here for a long time and you look like your loving life. You are doing so much for us believe me I am eating up every word! thank you for sharing strength and Hope
TORY WILLOW hope your still going strong😊👍
Curious on your results?
How are you doing now?
Dude I'm so much like you.. I'm down to practically nothing after hearing what mg"a people where on. I need to quit now. I'm embarrassed at the amount of H I'm playing with... I kmow your in heaven now helping others get thru the gates. Your like a guarding Angel that came to earth for a moment to help lost souls..
I want to get off Vicodin, been on for nearly five year's, I'm scared one day I won't wake up,I'm only in my 30's,.I'll keep watching your videos for help..
San J dam bro were in the same boat im popping oxys and roxys to im loosing myself bro i walked out on a job cuz i was sick i feel so ashamed of myself for letting this addiction get me like this ive kicked about five times i get over the physical but cant get past the mental i need help i feel like im gna die
tom morris ,dam bro I admire u got over the physical I can't even do that,I feel for you
me to
You have to get honest with yourself, and if hurting your body with drugs was ok, then why be afraid of withdrawal?
tom morris hey. I just read your comment just now. I know you posted it a year ago but I wanted to see how you were doing ? I can relate to what you are saying. I hope everything is ok. Let me know if you want to talk
R.I.P Sir Ryan Donnelly. You'll always be in our thoughts and prayers.
Zia Tech how did he pass
Jonathan Adkins He had heart problems I believe.
If your reading this comment and can do the taper, with your Doctor set up a spreadsheet of Date, Total MG/day using, and percentage you think you can reduce. For instance if using 100 mg/day reducing 10% is -10 mg/day for 5 weeks then when at 50 mg/day reducing 5% is -2.5 mg/day for 10 weeks. It is going to be hard so go real slow with the last 25 mg is -1.5 mg/day for 15 weeks. Graph your progress over the 30 weeks or 6-7 months it takes to get clean using this method. Dr. tried Requip for fidgets.
That sounds doable. This is an old video and I haven't seen many comments concerning fentanyl. I believe it's a stronger beast than good old Percocet. You can't even get them anymore. Everything has fentanyl or even worse xylophine element tranquilizer. Wow I don't need to see my veins tissue and muscle hanging from my bicep to think it's bad😮
I just didn’t re-up one day after 10 yrs .
It still hurts to think about it 😂
Your a boss
Same. Crazy to even think about. Just one day I said nah f*ck it and that was it lol
yep me too. no way in he'll could I save pills or self taper. took me nearly 40 full blown cold turkeys to get clean.
life is so much better clean.
That's exactly how I was to. if they were there I had to take them. I couldn't save anything. I'd just say. I'll figure it out tomorrow. tomorrow is another time.
NEVER could or can save, only saved if I nodded off and crashed out trashed.
Yea bro me too
Man I miss him so much! I’m about to start my withdrawal/detox again sometime soon! And I find myself coming back to his videos to get reassurance that I’ll be okay soon! i’m doing a very quick taper though, like a week of tapering down! which probably isn’t good but I want to get off as soon as I can...
It’s been 2 years how are you doing now?
Thank again man. Your post as truly inspiring and have helped me out big time in the last (clean) 10 Days. All the best
Dylan
+Ryan Donnelly sup Ryan. Thanks as well man for sure. Still singing man 11 going strong and feeling better each day. Hit the gym 5am followed by 10 min ice bath,clean eating,meditation and all. I have a ton Of experience in that field coming from a nutritional/athletic backroad. Sent in my RUclips Story my story a while back. It's the this big a*s novel email lol. There's somethings that I've mention and you as well the definitely help big time like exercise for sure 100%.. You mentioned you like the stories shared that have helped us all through this battle. There's 3-10 things that be helped me big time I could share. Also in this day and age I believe the online community is a HUGE for people like myself who are battling this on our own. It's like having a sponsor. Now just one but all of us. It's awesome. Thank YOU for the time and killing it! Take care man all the best.
Dylan
Man you're such a inspiration. Please keep the videos coming, I look forward to it M-F. long time viewer, first time poster!
+Ryan Donnelly Haha sweet!! I've been trying to get the courage up to contact you via email and since you replied so quickly...I may just do that tomorrow and send my story. Thank you again man!!!
I was also on OC 80s and Fentanyl patches at the peak of my functional addiction. And I can also relate to what you said about using them all up even if you planned to save or taper. It just never worked. I ended up on methadone for nine years, increasing the severity and length of my addiction far beyond what I ever originally was with pills. tapering attempts never worked. Took me years to taper from 180 mg of methadone per day down to 80 and I'm beating my head against the wall, have decided to go Inpatient Detox. Going in in two weeks. To get this shit over with. I agree with Ryan. In my perspective is, why feel like shit for the sake of staying dependent when I can feel like shit for the sake of being clean?
Laura that’s an amazing way to look at it! Thank you for sharing.
When I took pain pills after a car accident, I never exceeded 42mg a day of hydrocodone. After hearing your story, and with all due respect, I was nowhere as bad. I used to think I was a junkie. Now I know I was not. I appreciate your story because now I can live with myself without any self-depreciating guilt. Good luck to you, and the rest of the people who are struggling with addictions. 300 mg a day? Good God.
winthrop2005 I was taking anywhere from 90-150 mgs a day for a year and a half. Due to an injury. But nonethless..you think that makes me a junkie? I tapered down to 60mgs a day for the last 3 days
this comment is moronic
I've just started watching Ryan's videos and damn, what a guy! I'm very happy to have this info, a lot of it I already know or have been through but it's really great hearing from him and other people. I haven't come across this, (it's probably in a video I haven't watched yet), but I'm wondering if anyone else has rapid, pounding heartbeat? It's one of the things that can really mess with you psychologicaly and physically. Please let me know so I can say it's not just me. It might be, who knows? Thank you again Ryan. You've got me off to a good start. I'm already feeling better. I'm keeping my mind busy in positive ways and also doing things around the house I've been putting off for years.
i was doing 40 30mg a day 1200mg a day than went to 40~60 bags a aday...I went to rapid detox and YOU saved my life.
No relapse and feeling like a KING. God Bless you ryan. Miss you so much. Thank you so much RIP
Wow man! Good job!
For one thing, oxy has something in it that makes it more addictive. It's not the best opiode but has that thing in it. Dilaudid is way cleaner and has that after glow. With oxy the bottom just drops out after 2 hrs.
Taper never works. It's like eating only one slice of pizza. Dive in cold turkey like I've done twice and you'll be okay over time. It sucks balls but you get over it faster.
Going cold turkey when doing hard core pain medications is agonizing.... Mostly uncomfortable but painful. I unfortunatly came from a family with bad health issues including cancer cell tumor development, muscle spasms, and degeneration in my spine. Doctors refuse to give out pain meds unless your heart rate is elevated to a certain extent where it is clear you in agony. Going to the emergency room with withdrawals will only make it worse....they will not give you anything..... And you will just sweat and suffer hooked up to potassium to hydrate you while the opiates leave your system. Unfortunatly some people don't have an option of tapering like me and my father. However I have found that adderall or medical cocaine can aid in opiate withdrawals and cociane has little physical withdrawal.... Everyone is different being said do your research and be prepared..... Don't back yourself into a corner... Because if you do killing yourself will sound a whole lot better then suffering. Please don't do pain meds...look for alternatives....and tell you doctor if you thinking about suicide
I tapered from oxy an it took a little time. tapering still sucked. I eventually was taking slivers of a pill several times a day. I still was sweating an felt bad. On my last pill I didn't take it just kept it an just stopped taking them. It was an experience I had tried many times over 13 years. I am now 6 months clean an doing so much better. I think about them maybe few times a month but usually during a stress time. If I can do it anyone can. You have to want to stop in your mind as well. No matter what it sucks detoxing, but it gets better. Good luck !!
Went from 6 bags a day to 4 to 3 then two now I got down to one bag for about two days. Very soon gonna stop and handle the wds (this was over a 3 week period each week dropping dose after a 4 month binder) most days when I went to 2 a day I didn’t even have anything I have gone 2-3 days without then I did one to sleep then I went another couple days without. And everytime the wds got way easier I just did my last dose from a bag that lasted me two days mind you these are .1 tiny bags I am confident have a great support system and I know this time is the final.!
I know that was along time ago. I pray you are well now.
I take 7 -10mg hydrocodone a day. How hard will a taper be for me to do? Thank you for taking time out of your day to answer my question. I’m praying I can do this without losing my job.
THE POINT IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT MINDSET AND YOU GET THAT MINDSET THROUGH SUFFERING BY TAPERING ISNT it????
NO NOT REALLY I THINK ITS UP TO THE PERSON I PERSONALLY CAN ONLY GET INTO THE MINDSET IF I PLAN TO OUTRIGHT QUIT BECAUSE TAKING ANY OPIOIDS AT ALL FUCKS WITH MY HEAD TOO MUCH YOU know????
You were a beast Ryan... 10 blues you were taking just to numb the pain.. I feel your hurt very much bro still wish you were here for more guidance and advice ... taper to half dosage 150mg of oxy n wasn't even enoughh to take the edge off.. I pray for everyone that trying to break this lifestyle. Don't let the fire inside go out ever keep trying to quit even if it takes you 500 times you still gotta do it .. your family loves you
I’ve been told that many Methadone Clinics Won’t let people taper off, until they’ve been on it far at least a Year!!!
it's not funny Ryan I know ,but I had to laugh when you said you have a few left and I'll save them for tomorrow to not get sick ,,,,then literally minutes later you do them in ,,,,,even knowing full well tomorrow could be hell on earth ,,,,,reminds me so much of what I was like ,,,,,addicts mentality " worry about it tomorrow" it's insane but so true
Jp Macc ha ha definitely I know what that’s like! I got better over last year and last month I cut down from 50mg methadone to 15. I’m starting day 1 today detox and even though I’m not great comments like this make me laugh considering the insanity of it all 👍🏼
Yep same here. Did it all the time with H... god those were some weird days of my life. What happened to my brain lol
I know that feel. Good intentions to spread drugs out not to get sick. 5 minutes later all pills you have get chewed and swallowed. Worry about the 3 or 4 days of hell before I'll get more pills meh I'll worry about it tomorrow....
Rest in Paradise beautiful soul.
Thanks Ryan
better than cold turkey AND a taper... medically assisted detox AKA suboxone and/or rehab
tried taper several times; never succeded. but honestly i think i will die when going cold turkey. even taper was hell on earth, cant imagine how i would feel being on ct.
Was sober 19 years , I was in pain and someone offered me pills and than became dependent on them . Now I’m trying to taper down on the down low and I hope I can do it. Don’t mess with those blue pills being sold on the street
Currently tapering , went from doing 24 fent 30’s and 6 xans a day and now I’m at 9 Oxys a day and no Xanax. It’s definitely not for everyone. You really have to have the mental strength to not dose too early .
Just wonderng, how were you even able to afford 300 to 500 mg a day??? Let alone how could you consistantly get your hands on that many each and EVERY day???
I think you got to hit bottom I am getting sick and tired running after demon pills I swapped from being alcoholic to opiates and benzos your advice is great
Yes you hit the nail right on the head I'm in the same boat! I stumbled on this video and came across your comment... it's a quite old comment I see but I'm just curious on your progress where are you at now how are you holding up?
Gggghuuuiuhyy6ya$$4$$tgdrw2
I get 90 oxys a month. I find that I'm running out before the next month's refill. I constantly count my pills and tell myself " ok, if I take only a couple pills a day they'll last me until the refill date" but I just can't do it. so taper won't work for me either.
Thank you so much for this video. I’m going through this now. It’s terrible
Pure truth... it's a lot easier to have strong focused will power for a week or two that draw out needing to be strong an focused over a few months. One weak day in those few months can be the end of it
Imagine withdrawing from 2000mgs of oxy a day, COLD TURKEY! I think I would kill myself, no way I could handle that! Highest I've ever been is 260mgs per day and when I missed ONE DOSE my heart was pounding through my chest withing 2 hours of a missed dose. 2000mgs per day would either give me a heart attack or drive me to shoot myself... Kudos to anyone with balls big enough to endure that third level of HELL!
Light is greater than darkness yeah, I would lose it for sure... FOR SURE
Light is greater than darkness i was shooting 50 bags of dope a day to going thru it cold turkey it was living hell 3 straight months of waking up every hour in a pool of sweat every night i honestly dont know how i did it but going on 2 years clean. just tell yourself one day youll be back to normal and that day will eventually come
@@HotPants911 omg man that sounds unimaginable gives me anxiety just thinkin bout that. Thank God you got through it.
I agree... And you're so cute!
Taper works, the problem is most think they can do it but won't. It was easy for me to get off those nasty pain meds. To me it much harder to eat healthy than get off the meds.
I'm trying to do both get of the blue eyed devil and eat right at the same time.
Oh yeah I was on Methadone for 32 years all together and a recovering IV drug addict!! Heroin,Cocaine and Meth were my game
Im 7 days off methadone and im feeling so much better. The lethargy sucks and insomnia would be brutal if I didnt have weed.
Weed is the key
just found you on here man!!! your amazing!!! I take Vic's and oxy,.. no way nere the number of alot of people.. 10 to 12 10 mg Vic's or 2 60 mg oxy if I have access!! I'm a server in a nice restaurant and if I don't have them for work I'm not me!! you know what I mean!! been taking them for about 5 years now!!
Hands down pregabalin is the best drug to use when going cold turkey. Spoke to many addicts. It’s even use for restless leg as a script.
Google it.
I only take 15mg per day... 5 in am, 5 at lunch and 5 in evening... and I'm TERRIFIED of withdraw. I can't afford it anymore.... and I don't want to do it, but I'm so scared that it's all I think about, and I literally wake up at night with symptoms of withdraw, even though it's not ... it's because I'm soooooooo scared I'm already driving myself crazy.
My Gosh I WISH I was still only at 15mg a day... Ha, wow. 300mg per day habit I'm trying to quit right now... a 15mg would barely give me relief from symptoms right now. You'll be FINE. :)
Very very valuable video. Thank you
Will anything help to get fall asleep at night,even for a few hours. Thanks for your time
And advice!!
Roy Rocchio - if you have a doctor, talk to him about either Remeron or Vistaril.
Melatonin
I would rather rip the band aid off instead of slowly peeling it off. its like throwing up, it hurts, you feel like u will never be able to breathe or feel good again. Like throwing up it passes
How are u now
@@russellmazzuca6526 life isn’t perfect but I’m not addicted to dope anymore.
I’ve slipped up a few times over the years but I’m doing good now!
@@NASkeywest I’m 28 days in and it’s pure hell just gotta get my mind right
I think if you want to taper going to a methadone clinic is worth a try. That way you won't have any opiates in your possession because you will be dosed in the clinic at the speed of your choosing. The down side is that you can ask them to stop the taper at any time and just end up going there everyday for the rest of your life but at least you won't od.
I have reduced my dose by 50mg but I still take 100mg a day.
I hope this helps you. 😊
I admitted to my doctor that I'm addicted to painkillers. 400mg or so a day of Tramadol. Which when I first started wasnt understood as being addicted. I asked if I could taper. He gave me 7 of the 50 mg and take half a pill a day. So we all know going from 400 to 50 is pretty much worthless.
You've helped me no end ryan RIP.
May God bless those still hurting 'Greeneyedcat'.
MrGreeneyedcat that’s me. The Gabapentin doesn’t help with the RLS... the Calm Support doesn’t either.smh. That keeps me using. If I could just find a good remedy for that I can do this. I’m gonna order some magnesium to see if that will help. I don’t have anybody to talk too who is going thru this or has went thru this to help with support either and my mom just passed so I’m hurting inside... 😔😥
MrGreeneyedcat sorry to unload on you. 🙏🏾
MrGreeneyedcat I made it. Done with Acute. Now the PAWS begin... I’m staying. On top of the supplements and nootropics.
Isa Malik, that is great news isa, feel free to keep me updated, bless Greeneyedcat.
How did he die?
I've tapered successfully with methadone, but I don't think it would work with short acting pills that get your really high. . I've used the strategy of letting myself get sick and then substituting weaker pills. I've kicked OXY by substituting codeine and valium, but I always relapesd within a few weeks. In the end it's always staying clean that's the problem.
Robert Hauser it works the same for dones tapering wise. Agree with you 100% once you kick the withdrawal the mental games start
How long does the severe anxiety last? I am 8 days clean but have debilitating anxiety and cant do a day at work
@@eliasflores777777777. Couldn’t relate more bro. How are you doing now? Quick story that might help. I used for about 3 years and then traveled to Europe and quit there. The anxiety ruined my vacation, I didn’t even want to leave the house. Shortly after coming back to the states I felt my anxiety getting better, took a little over a month. After a good 6 months clean, I told myself I was ok to take one for fun. Worst mistake I made, 8 months later now I’m here tapering all over again and I’ll say that the withdrawals and anxiety are worse every time you do it. I hope you’re good now bro
I'm 50, 2 year post op, huge brain surgery post op. Horrible surgery. Was given hydrocodone and thank god (I think) because post op was
B R U T A L. but now, started taper yesterday. Going from 160 mg / day to 120 today and for 4 days. Then 100 for 4 and then on. But also going to doc Monday to discuss a professional monitored taper. Please wish me luck. Thanks for your videos.
Just honest truth from an honest addict. If you can taper appropriately go for it, 99% can't.
you're an angel bro. RIP
Paul Buonviaggio how did he pass ???
BUT, when you've been disciplined to a certain dose for years, and you been able to stick w/ the program, they may have a decent chance of tapering. I couldn't cold turkey because the insomnia was so terrible. ( I felt like I didn't sleep for 17 days). But, w/ tapering the insomnia was still terrible, but barely bearable.
I was the same way for the most part...I would try to save pills for the month that my friend would give me and let me tell you theybwere all gone in a few days. I had to buy more from him or off the street which sucked. I couldnt taper either cuz if i did pills i expected to feel high like you mentioned abd obviously i wasnt gonna be high or as high if i was tapering. My own thinking was awful and never ever worked!
+Ryan Donnelly yup
I'm doing a taper Ryan and it's hard as hell but it's working, but I stopped taking my favorite stuff and went down to a lesser more mild opiate and I'm using them to taper and it's working, first 2 days when I stopped using my regular stuff it hurt and I felt the difference a lot but I'm doing it, it's day 3 and I'm still going through wd's but there not as bad as it would be if I went cold turkey...
Hey Ryan I have given up for now trying to send a one one one to you but ti comment on taper or cold turkey I can say after almost 30 years of monthly withdrawls I can no longer do this cold turkey. I get to sick and ling periods of no sleep make me psychotic. So this time I have new respect for the methadone I have taken for twenty years. Up until a month ago I thought I would be just the old junkie who lost it all. But over the last year I mafe some personal changes. Not only have I been tuning in to you regularly but I began praying to the only thing I had left. God. I wasent sure if there was any hope for me. Even though I am still physically addicted the cravings and desire for as many pills to I could stuf in my mouth without choking. That desire is gone. I have weened from 200 mgs of methadone a day ti 130. I listen to you when I feel weak and dismayed and pray often and keep toxic people out of my life . Also I should get my calm support vitamins tomorrow. Thanks for the help and encouragement.
Judes Foster how are you?
Lmao I started laughing so hard at the 10 to 5 pills lasted 2 hours. Been there done that lol
I just kicked a 10 year heroin habit by taking methadone for 3 days.... 30mg day one 10mg day 2 and 5mg day 3.... I'm at 4 days without anything and I feel great! not sick at all! I can't explain it but I'm happy as hell!
Phat_Boy 412 lol howd you feel the next day or 2 days later when the methadone was out of your system?
Pat MaCock it's been over a month and I feel fine.... I didnt get sick at all.
Phat_Boy 412 no shit?? lucky you i was kickin a 50 bag a day habit for 2 years and i woke up in a pool of sweat for 3 months lol dont take that for granite tho not to many people can do it painlessly like that!
Phat_Boy 412 glad to hear ur still clean too!!!
I'm 5 days H free & on suboxone, 4mg . I sincerely like where Ryan is going in life, overcoming opiates.
Vernon termsOfService hope your still going strong😊
Can you explain exactly what you did
Cold turkey works the best. I used beer for a while to help which actually worked very well. I wouldn't do this method if you have a highly addictive personality. I'm currently back on 15mg of Percocet a day from a fractured tibia and torn rotator cuff. I would rather cold turkey after I have recovered than live with this pain Im in now. It's a lot of perspective but if you need it, take it. If you don't, stay the hell away from it at all costs.
You’re not kidding when you said you feel like you’re wasting it 😂😂✋🏻
Totally relate to the balls to the wall in my addiction to .keep up the work man ur helping people like me .thank you
You did the taper wrong. You’re not just to just take half of your dose right away. What I do is i would wake up first in the morning and I won’t take any pills at all and i would deal with the withdrawal for as long as i possibly can through out the day until i can’t take it anymore. Then i would cut my dose in half and then they would actually take the adage off. Then from there i would just keep myself at the dose until i feel my body getting used to that dose. As soon as i feel that I immediately do it again and rinse and repeat until I get to such a low dose i can just stop.
Thanks bro.
Anyone still watching this. I have the mindset that he was talking about in the beginning. If I had them, I would take them. But now, at 23 with my daughter, I’m basically living with my dad so that he has my pills and he can control the taper. Find someone you trust. With help it is so much easier
I so wish there was a way we could talk one on one.I'm sure you hear that all the time
To sydsmom 1999? Are you speaking to me about wanting to talk or to ryan? I am new to this whole messaging thing and was not sure.
+CalmSupport.com great video I'm about to start getting clean.. Any help ?
CalmSupport.com
Yeah. The CDC reccomends 10% per a minimum of one week. Longer if need be. 300 to 150 you might as well go ct.