I basically build the same items. But I have a Build if i have to carry 1v9: conditioning+ overgrowth/ Triumpf + last stand and Build Jaksho > Aegis of Legion > titanic > Stoneplate > Steraks > BC/Spirit/etc. If your ahead this feels insanely strong the jaksho bug is still in the game so ur a true 1v9 maschine in all out.
I agree with your reasoning about sunfire but statistically, in every elo bracket, ksantes who build sunfire 2.(which is most common 2. item) seem to win significantly more which is interesting.
It seems to do relatively better at lower ranks tbf. It's statistically tied at Challenger (with a low sample size), but Sunfire is clearly generically better at lower ranks. His reasoning makes some sense, but he didn't mention the waveclear at all. K'sante doesn't use it as well as other tanks, but it's just a really strong item, and I think it's clearly the best option for the bottom 99.5% of players and still arguably the best in slot second for the top 0.5%.
Don't feel awkward or anything about the K'sante rant video, I think it aged perfectly fine. He ended up over tuned, which is awkward, but I didn't think you were ever upset he was being weakened. He is less fun for a lot of us now, and it's okay to be upset even if he is stronger now. Glad you didn't give up on the champ completely, thanks for the content!
@@giovada4157 the rework was a big nerf and the video in regards to that was released late september, the massive buffs he got because the rework basically killed the champion were announced mid October. might take a half a braincell to put 2 and 2 together
@@TKO9871 the rework was a big buff for the game, cause playing vs him in proplay was a nightmare. Make 3 people unhappy, but save the game. You can't do a 2+2 i suppose.
I think you're underrating Sunfire by a lot. You didn't mention the waveclear at all, and it's statistically the most popular and most performant item. It's comparatively much better at average levels of play, but even in high MMR it's still seemingly the best in slot, or at least as good as Thornmail.
@@stefanmantz1851 do you even know what counterplay is? i am not ask for his counters picks? and, garen vs this bullshit? garen has a 45.54% winrate vs this shit LMAO and more? these K'Sante main are coping so hard trying to claim this shit is anywhere close to balance
Thanks for the video man, I picked ksante 2 days ago and your stuff has been pretty helpful, would you recommend something like fleetwork or conqueror against ranged matchups like gnar/jayce and such?
So if I understand correctly, this dude cries when ksante was nerfed. But when he’s buffed to the point where he’s broken, he doesn’t mention any of that. Haha gotta love it
lmao i agree it sounded kinda bad, but i'd cut him some slack. his favorite champ was being made less fun, and nobody expected the crazy buffs that came after
He is still a 16yo kid, like his community. Rework was obviosly going to buff and some compensating where obviously kn the road but no. K'sante had zero counterplay, but he's not intelligent enough to understand it.
@@TKO9871 an intelligent person could say " ok, they are removing skill expression and fun, but the champ is broken and i understand. I will figure it out how to manage this" no, 1 hour kid rant and his community following him.
Havent played K'sante (or League, really) in a couple of months, what are the major gameplay differences with the K'sante mini rework? Are you stronger / weaker early game / skirmishes / sidelane / teamfights? How are his matchups? Any tip on how to adapt playstyle?
i get the disappointment with the skill expression and ofc he's much less flashy now but he has a 65%+ winrate in high elo for a reason so I don't think its really something worth fussing over
@@ThiVasss skill expression doesn't mean fun, fun is completely subjective. Some people find garen or yuumi fun even though they barely have any skill expression. Doesn't mean they become boring if they're nerfed.
@@AchiGouriSkill impression is 90% of the fun. He got the massive winrate because of the 2 op bugs that people are abusing in soloq. All he has now to be viable is allot of stats,if they nerf those stats then he is no longer mechanically fun or can stat check some matchups and will be overall bad to play. BTW you said the guy resorted to calling you low elo instead of arguing with you,how about you link your opgg and prove him wrong?
I have such a hard time feeling good on Ksante now. It doesn't matter if he's strong, if it just feels so much more braindead to play him. q.q And the new W is just painful, it feels inconsistent to a lot of his combos now.
I literally do not have less respect for any streamer at the moment. I get playing or one tricking a champ that you love and enjoy. But the fact this kid can even enjoy the game knowing he just abuses the most broken champ in the game is onsurd
Is iceborn really that good though, Jak'sho feels a lot better seen as we don't really need the slow anymore due to all out form q providing a slow, iceborn just feels really overkill and make's K'sante feel weak. Just my thoughts.
If i wanted to cheat my opponents for free lp i would simply pay for a script, more honorable than playing this unfair champ. I have more respect for little Timmy that ints in iron playing Yasuo than a challenger Ksante abuser.
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theyre gonna keep nerfing and buffing this champ. This champ was a mistake but i love him hes too fun.
It is still less complicated case than yuumi tough
Oh I wish they just revert him
Never gonna happen.@@HeroicHearts229
I basically build the same items. But I have a Build if i have to carry 1v9: conditioning+ overgrowth/ Triumpf + last stand and Build Jaksho > Aegis of Legion > titanic > Stoneplate > Steraks > BC/Spirit/etc. If your ahead this feels insanely strong the jaksho bug is still in the game so ur a true 1v9 maschine in all out.
I agree with your reasoning about sunfire but statistically, in every elo bracket, ksantes who build sunfire 2.(which is most common 2. item) seem to win significantly more which is interesting.
It seems to do relatively better at lower ranks tbf. It's statistically tied at Challenger (with a low sample size), but Sunfire is clearly generically better at lower ranks.
His reasoning makes some sense, but he didn't mention the waveclear at all. K'sante doesn't use it as well as other tanks, but it's just a really strong item, and I think it's clearly the best option for the bottom 99.5% of players and still arguably the best in slot second for the top 0.5%.
@@egosumv3112i agree, for waveclear alone as you mentioned
Don't feel awkward or anything about the K'sante rant video, I think it aged perfectly fine. He ended up over tuned, which is awkward, but I didn't think you were ever upset he was being weakened. He is less fun for a lot of us now, and it's okay to be upset even if he is stronger now.
Glad you didn't give up on the champ completely, thanks for the content!
Nah the rant video is cringe. He just had to think one second: the rework was obviously a buff
@@giovada4157 the rework was a big nerf and the video in regards to that was released late september, the massive buffs he got because the rework basically killed the champion were announced mid October. might take a half a braincell to put 2 and 2 together
@@TKO9871 the rework was a big buff for the game, cause playing vs him in proplay was a nightmare. Make 3 people unhappy, but save the game. You can't do a 2+2 i suppose.
@@giovada4157 you dont have to try so hard to recover a losing argument you know. we all know what a buff should mean.
@@acershaw8442 k'sante is stronger then before, so my argument is kinda valid. Don't defend your boyfriend, is cringe
Very interesting video!!! I would like one on Pantheon as well since you mained him a lot :)
Hell yeah! Thanks, Aatreus!
I think you're underrating Sunfire by a lot. You didn't mention the waveclear at all, and it's statistically the most popular and most performant item. It's comparatively much better at average levels of play, but even in high MMR it's still seemingly the best in slot, or at least as good as Thornmail.
Im just as frustrated with the skill expression as a lot of us are but thanks for going all out with your guide as always. :)
LMAO skill expression? what is the counterplay vs K'Sante? none
@@KlPooN94garen fiora vayne and more
@@stefanmantz1851 do you even know what counterplay is? i am not ask for his counters picks? and, garen vs this bullshit? garen has a 45.54% winrate vs this shit LMAO and more? these K'Sante main are coping so hard trying to claim this shit is anywhere close to balance
@@stefanmantz1851 elo iron 3 i suppose
@@giovada4157 gm but you were close 😂
I saw a little bit on your streams that you went ignite as a summoner spell occasionally. In what situations would you go ignite vs ghost vs flash?
Thanks for the video man, I picked ksante 2 days ago and your stuff has been pretty helpful, would you recommend something like fleetwork or conqueror against ranged matchups like gnar/jayce and such?
Spellbook
Thanks for the guide Boss
So if I understand correctly, this dude cries when ksante was nerfed. But when he’s buffed to the point where he’s broken, he doesn’t mention any of that. Haha gotta love it
lmao i agree it sounded kinda bad, but i'd cut him some slack. his favorite champ was being made less fun, and nobody expected the crazy buffs that came after
He is still a 16yo kid, like his community. Rework was obviosly going to buff and some compensating where obviously kn the road but no. K'sante had zero counterplay, but he's not intelligent enough to understand it.
he wasnt complaining about the nerfs more so that core mechanics were being removed, and hes only 16 so cut him some slack on the second part
@@TKO9871 ok, but he's not smart enough to understand that k'sante had zero counterplay and in high elo was a monster in earth.
@@TKO9871 an intelligent person could say " ok, they are removing skill expression and fun, but the champ is broken and i understand. I will figure it out how to manage this" no, 1 hour kid rant and his community following him.
Thoughts on aftershock in lanes where you can't really use grasp?
And what do you think of hullbreaker, titanic, black cleaver, shojin?
Spellbook is better for poke heavy muS
What do you think of fimbulwinter around 3d item if enemy comp is most ad followed by frozen heart ?
Isn't hullbreaker good 4th item if u need to pressure sidelane when you have a lead?
Havent played K'sante (or League, really) in a couple of months, what are the major gameplay differences with the K'sante mini rework?
Are you stronger / weaker early game / skirmishes / sidelane / teamfights?
How are his matchups?
Any tip on how to adapt playstyle?
He still weakest on laning phase and with his "rework" developers slain all his main scails.
i get the disappointment with the skill expression and ofc he's much less flashy now but he has a 65%+ winrate in high elo for a reason so I don't think its really something worth fussing over
So what you are saying is, he is less fun but more broken so it's okey? What happens when he gets nerfed then?
@@ThiVasss skill expression doesn't mean fun, fun is completely subjective. Some people find garen or yuumi fun even though they barely have any skill expression. Doesn't mean they become boring if they're nerfed.
@@AchiGouri i smell low elo
@@momentoyal930 right, just call the person low elo instead of arguing the point, smart.
@@AchiGouriSkill impression is 90% of the fun. He got the massive winrate because of the 2 op bugs that people are abusing in soloq. All he has now to be viable is allot of stats,if they nerf those stats then he is no longer mechanically fun or can stat check some matchups and will be overall bad to play. BTW you said the guy resorted to calling you low elo instead of arguing with you,how about you link your opgg and prove him wrong?
I have such a hard time feeling good on Ksante now. It doesn't matter if he's strong, if it just feels so much more braindead to play him. q.q And the new W is just painful, it feels inconsistent to a lot of his combos now.
Atreus what are the chances you make in depth matchup guides for people trying to learn ksante. Can I ask for Gwen help please
I literally do not have less respect for any streamer at the moment. I get playing or one tricking a champ that you love and enjoy. But the fact this kid can even enjoy the game knowing he just abuses the most broken champ in the game is onsurd
Could you please post your games on RUclips so they can be watched later for people that can't watch your stream live
They killed k'sante once more
about titanic hydra?
Is iceborn really that good though, Jak'sho feels a lot better seen as we don't really need the slow anymore due to all out form q providing a slow, iceborn just feels really overkill and make's K'sante feel weak. Just my thoughts.
bro, share the code to copy the k'sante build to the client
frozen heart?
But what about Heartsteel?
Helps alot with the cast time
If i wanted to cheat my opponents for free lp i would simply pay for a script, more honorable than playing this unfair champ. I have more respect for little Timmy that ints in iron playing Yasuo than a challenger Ksante abuser.
can u upload unedited games to yt? 🥺