I was in a game playing as Echo in comp once and we were in our last team fight but we were 2 team members down, when I saw our mercy rez one and then enemy mercy use her rez too I decided to copy Mercy and Rez our fallen tank (Rein) who smacked down a game winning shatter! I didn't get much praise other than a well done and thanks by my Rein but I felt like a hero that day...
I always only copy for rez if I’m going mercy I can never get valk in time lmao Also I copy mercy if none of the other heroes seem viable for me since I suck at most of em lol
@@steverogers3919 i learned how to play echo cos of bro you Wack’s tips video and cos I wanted to use dva bomb on dps lmao since I’m a dva main I suck at all the other dps except tracer since I mainly play dva Tbh echo is easy once you know what to do as her like how to time her beam and sticky bombs lol
@RayTM i feel like an experienced echo would pick her because that turns any team fight from a 6v7 to like a 7.5-8v7 (depending on how you look at the duplicate) because of the mercy res and the duplicate being “extra members” so to speak in the team fight
@@jackson-lb9lq , I tought that too, but every time I duplicate, it does nothing with the situation on the battlefield. Plus, when the enemy team notice that you duplicate someone, they will try to immediately shot you down and if your REALLY bed mercy, that duplicate is over by a second. It s just a waste of Echo ' s ultimate.
@@agletuser6738 rez one teamate? You really duplicate Mercy just because of that one rez?
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for Mercy having a res can completely swing a fight and you can literally die for the res because you have a second life too. An extra life can swing a fight significantly!
3:03 it's not really that imo (as an echo player), walls is actually a pretty good ultimate, it's just that widowmaker is played patiently to be effective and get the kills and you don't really have the time for that with your echo ult, also because you can only get one ult per copy if you duplicate widow, AND you're a super shiny character while you're copying so it's not as if you can really flank or go for an unoticed angle in those 15 seconds without being spotted
Unfortunately for myself as Echo, I usually copy a Mercy because I want the enemy team to go up in flames if I manage to revive my allies, especially my own Mercy. XD
My question is... Why is doomfist number 14? Doom is the best DPS to copy in overwatch because his ult can be achieved in 1 punch as is overall the best ultimate for movement, zoning and damage. I thought doom was going to be number 2 and rein number one but ROADHOG!? He can be good but sigma and orisa are better tanks too. Bongo has the highing team fight win ratio out of any ult and a shield + halt makes orisa a great pick. Bro you wack i LOVE your content but i just had to mention my nitpicks about this list.
I think this is a very good tier list and I agree with most of these. The only thing I would change would be Ana’s place. Another healer to begin with breaks the game because of that busted healing. The main reason tho is her abilities. Her sleep is one of the best abilities in the game as well as her nade. Just think about this: you copy an Ana after flying as high as possible and get a fat nade, you now have a LOT of ULT charge and your team goes in. You still have sleep available and you will get nano fast and we all now how enabling nano is. Great video though! You are an amazing creator
@@lucas411_ yeah ik, i have my own little list of who to duplicate myself so i wasnt planning on taking any advise from this video, i was just excited to see where he would rank all the characters
@Deft Dva its tough bc i feel like i get just as many people saying to switch off echo compared to characters like sym and bastion, its sad bc the struggle of echo mains goes a little unnoticed
Don’t hate please but I main bastion so whenever I’m having an off-day, and play echo, I pray the enemies have a bastion because echo is an amazing counter to bastion if they’re movement is good and I want to dupe the bastion to show that I am mid-bronze for a reason.
i disagree with the bastion rank, flying in the air and copying bastion in turret form is a good tactic cuz people dont expect him to be in the air, which grants you his ult by the time you land and suprise the enemy team
I love byw as a creator but some of the stuff he says in this video is complete bullshit you shouldn't determine how good a copy is by the amount of ultimates they can use in the 15 second timeframe, its about the imact of the ultimate. sombra isn't permanently invisible and if there is a teamfight going on, if she's decent, she will be helping her team. It isn't exactly hard to press the copy button also orisa's ult is probably one of the best in the game, the fact that it can be destroyed is a hinderance, but if you don't place it out in the open it shouldn't matter.
It really depends on the situation, but if I'm going purely based on role: Tank: Dva, Zarya, and sometimes Sigma DPS: Tracer, Soldier, Symmetra (I'm a Sym main and can get the value that others can't lol) Sombra honorable mention but it HIGHLY depends on the situation. Support: Moira (raw heals), Mercy (infinite ammo in moth lul), Ana (2 sleeping targets helps the fight 😉)
Not really the slowest charging, more like it takes more ult points( from dmg, heals, or time) to get it. But Moira does put out a lot of heals provided your team is bunched together.
Bastion is great to copy if you are flanking or high in the air. Dropping down in sentry mode and mowing down the teams from behind you will easily get 1 or 2 kills before the enemy team even knows where you are
I take sombra all the time as echo, one of my fav to take. Yes she's gonna be in the back line but what's she there to do? Get a pick, if she picks you as the echo because you flew back into your backline for some healing that sombra may attack and I've had that happen, I took the sombra to defend myself then use sombras alt to turn the tide of the team fight as well
I agree that it's ridiculous to copy Mercy, but I respectfully disagree about her ult charge. To me it seems to build incredibly fast. I'm always the first one out of the gate to have ult, and get it 5-10 times per game. Are you referring to her ult charge WITHOUT healing?
her res is the reason ppl copy mercy, dumb as it sounds ive copied mercy to res my mercy who had valk before, won us that fight lol its situational but can work, but yes there are 100% better copy targets
About one point about the defensive ults like lucio or zen, you might’ve forgotten the possibility of echo ulting in reaction to the grav or visor, maybe they’ll get beat or trans fast enough to save their team idk
but why would a zarya or soldier ult when the enemy echo has copied lucio or zen. if the echo were to copy a zen in reaction to a soldier ult they probably arent gonna get the transcendence fast enough to have any value
I agree with most of the things you said but the main thing that I found untrue was when you said sym wasn’t meta. Right now sym is super meta on specific maps like lijang. In higher ranks not going sym on lijang is basically throwing. Still love the video tho.
the only viable dps heroes to copy are doom and tracer imo. All tanks can be atleast somewhat impactful in every situation and supports can be good in certain situations (ana and mercy can be clutch)
I like Cree because it allows to take more aggressive positioning and get a pick. Lol if my aim is not on point just flash fan the ult cancle and do that over and over again :)
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I dont agree for mercy, because the actual reason someone would want to copy mercy is the Rez and not the ult… and when you copy mercy you know that your gonna die quickly because ur in the enemy back line, which means that ur not gonna charge ur ult anyways… so the only thing you might be able to do is Rez a dead tank or a dps that has ult
I mostly copy Genji and challenge myself to get as many ults as possible. Perfect practice. I was able to get 3 each time. I like trying other heroes just to warm up.
Ngl I'm kinda surprised moria was so low down the list, normally when I copy moria I get my ult intently and just use it to dps and by the time I pop ult the enemy team is gonna be around half ho leaving me to get free kills and saving my team at it
why is everyone saying hanzo is easy, someone pls explain, is there a setting im missing? because it took me a long time learning how to hit my headshots, i had to look up the best crosshair (the default one) and the best sensitivity, even watch some moxxy
@@agletuser6738 it turns out i over estimated hanzo players, i thought everyone played like aarge but they actually do suck, and im a pretty godly hanzo for my level, now i know why everyone asks them to switch, also kenzo's crosshair is the best, i had a second opinion
My opinion: I don't think that echo copy zarya is a good idea because it is difficult to get energy to destroy the enemy teams, and if you get a lot of enrgy you can get your ultimate faster
I'm not an ana player but she should be higher. do you even watch OWL? Leave's clutch ana duplicate was the reason why Hunters got the second point of Anubis against the Excelsiors
i always dup widow because i main widow. It is also really fun to widow diff the other widow. Or genji because i love ghost dashing with my golden sword
Big fan of copying Hog. I see a Hog, I’m very likely to play Echo. Having cool ults is great but not being able to reactively use them is a pain. A lot of ults need the right time and Echo just doesn’t have the time. There’s also ult generation issues and survivability. You gotta be able to survive long enough to get an ult. Once you get it, there needs to be a window to use it. Even if there is a window, you need to survive while getting it off. Even if you survive getting it off, it needs to actually make an impact. So, kit is just as important as ult to me and sometimes kit is the play. Hog has no such issues and a great kit. You can flank, copy Hog from a distance, hook and kill a backline enemy, cause some focus on you, heal it up, you can even wait for another hook and secure two kills for free or cause disruption and possibly kill someone with Whole Hog. You don’t even have Hog’s weaknesses during it. Usually you interrupt him and/or focus him down but if they kill your copy, you become a slim flying moth free to escape. Your ult is getting to play hog for 15 seconds and go back to dps. A good pin copying Rein the same way is also amazing but I find the hook easier, the disruption better, and the survivability greater. Still, no Hog means Rein is my next choice. Zarya is only in situations where you can force bubble value to gen a grav. My favorite is to play with a Zarya, have a dps with an ult go in bubbled and it gives me charge to get a grav or Rein go in and we double bubble him and also bubble ourselves as we join him using my grav to get value or it baits out things that counter grav and follow up with our real one. Zarya-Zarya or duo dps vs Zarya is a great combo for a duo that I do when it comes up. You can even send the copy Zarya in with two bubbles of protection who gets to become Echo when killed. The last one is Dva if no other are an option and I can dive a backline. Not only are dives sometimes not possible but typically Dva with no Rein, Zarya, or Hog is going full dive with Winston and that means Echo isn’t a priority but, yeah, Hog is an insta-lock always but Rein or Zarya is enough to justify Echo for me. All other cases I just become a dps without an ult and that just makes her have less value.
Sombra is the top 5 best easily for me b/c the question was is the duplicate good and yes it is and it doesn't matter if you can find her or not the duplicate is still good if you wanted to make her dead last you should have made the question the the easiest character to find and duplicate as echo. But that just my opinion and we all have our own.
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I was in a game playing as Echo in comp once and we were in our last team fight but we were 2 team members down, when I saw our mercy rez one and then enemy mercy use her rez too I decided to copy Mercy and Rez our fallen tank (Rein) who smacked down a game winning shatter! I didn't get much praise other than a well done and thanks by my Rein but I felt like a hero that day...
Yeah I hear you. I see people copy Mercy quite a lot and I have to believe it's because of the rez.
I always only copy for rez if I’m going mercy
I can never get valk in time lmao
Also I copy mercy if none of the other heroes seem viable for me since I suck at most of em lol
@@Ellegrace2409 how does that work? I was under the impression Echoes a pretty hard character
@@steverogers3919 i learned how to play echo cos of bro you Wack’s tips video and cos I wanted to use dva bomb on dps lmao since I’m a dva main
I suck at all the other dps except tracer since I mainly play dva
Tbh echo is easy once you know what to do as her like how to time her beam and sticky bombs lol
@@Ellegrace2409 I have a hard time adjusting because I think she's Farrah and therefore try to play her like Farrah
for mercy if feel like she’s really good because she doesn’t have to damage people to generate ikr charge and gets the res which can win a team fight
@RayTM facts
@RayTM i feel like an experienced echo would pick her because that turns any team fight from a 6v7 to like a 7.5-8v7 (depending on how you look at the duplicate) because of the mercy res and the duplicate being “extra members” so to speak in the team fight
@@jackson-lb9lq , I tought that too, but every time I duplicate, it does nothing with the situation on the battlefield. Plus, when the enemy team notice that you duplicate someone, they will try to immediately shot you down and if your REALLY bed mercy, that duplicate is over by a second. It s just a waste of Echo ' s ultimate.
not to mention that you can rez someone... mercy is top 10 easy
@@agletuser6738 rez one teamate? You really duplicate Mercy just because of that one rez?
for Mercy having a res can completely swing a fight and you can literally die for the res because you have a second life too. An extra life can swing a fight significantly!
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3:03 it's not really that imo (as an echo player), walls is actually a pretty good ultimate, it's just that widowmaker is played patiently to be effective and get the kills and you don't really have the time for that with your echo ult, also because you can only get one ult per copy if you duplicate widow, AND you're a super shiny character while you're copying so it's not as if you can really flank or go for an unoticed angle in those 15 seconds without being spotted
"Echo copies tanks for their increased health pool so she doesn't die so quickly"
Next hero has the lowest health pool in the game lol
Unfortunately for myself as Echo, I usually copy a Mercy because I want the enemy team to go up in flames if I manage to revive my allies, especially my own Mercy. XD
InteresThing: You can get other heroes achievments using or during echo's ultimate
that could help me with some dps achievements.
Calling it before I watch : last : widowmaker
Number one : rein
I was close
Dva is definitely my favorite cause I have multiple chances to use her ultimate !!!
Same
My question is... Why is doomfist number 14? Doom is the best DPS to copy in overwatch because his ult can be achieved in 1 punch as is overall the best ultimate for movement, zoning and damage. I thought doom was going to be number 2 and rein number one but ROADHOG!? He can be good but sigma and orisa are better tanks too. Bongo has the highing team fight win ratio out of any ult and a shield + halt makes orisa a great pick. Bro you wack i LOVE your content but i just had to mention my nitpicks about this list.
The sombra at first confused me but after he explained it it made a lot more sense
I think this is a very good tier list and I agree with most of these. The only thing I would change would be Ana’s place. Another healer to begin with breaks the game because of that busted healing. The main reason tho is her abilities. Her sleep is one of the best abilities in the game as well as her nade. Just think about this: you copy an Ana after flying as high as possible and get a fat nade, you now have a LOT of ULT charge and your team goes in. You still have sleep available and you will get nano fast and we all now how enabling nano is.
Great video though! You are an amazing creator
as an echo main, i am truly excited for this ranking video
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dont take it as fact though this is his opinion
@@lucas411_ yeah ik, i have my own little list of who to duplicate myself so i wasnt planning on taking any advise from this video, i was just excited to see where he would rank all the characters
@Deft Dva its tough bc i feel like i get just as many people saying to switch off echo compared to characters like sym and bastion, its sad bc the struggle of echo mains goes a little unnoticed
Don’t hate please but I main bastion so whenever I’m having an off-day, and play echo, I pray the enemies have a bastion because echo is an amazing counter to bastion if they’re movement is good and I want to dupe the bastion to show that I am mid-bronze for a reason.
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i disagree with the bastion rank, flying in the air and copying bastion in turret form is a good tactic cuz people dont expect him to be in the air, which grants you his ult by the time you land and suprise the enemy team
9:46 “She’s probably one of the most picked healers.”
*me who rarely has an Ana on my team 😉✌️*
Do u only play qp?
@@BIGGHILLHYDRAA I play competitive
@@BIGGHILLHYDRAA only competitive
@@misterclawboi1805 I mean he’s not wrong if we’re talking about high end play. High ranked players definitely pick her almost all the time
Depends on the rank. Lower ranks have a lower pick rate for ana, and higher ones have higher rates
Copying echo with echo is god teir
Mercy is actually really good for certain situations bc if you have an another mercy you actually have a double rez of
And I'm sorry orisa ultimate is like the one that carry the most team fights I mean 50% of damage boost is insane
If you call Orisas shield a napkin then wtf is brigs shield?
A wet tissue
When it comes to ultimate duplication for echo it's either a tank or a support hero because we either need extra shield or we need healing
I love byw as a creator but some of the stuff he says in this video is complete bullshit
you shouldn't determine how good a copy is by the amount of ultimates they can use in the 15 second timeframe, its about the imact of the ultimate.
sombra isn't permanently invisible and if there is a teamfight going on, if she's decent, she will be helping her team. It isn't exactly hard to press the copy button
also orisa's ult is probably one of the best in the game, the fact that it can be destroyed is a hinderance, but if you don't place it out in the open it shouldn't matter.
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It really depends on the situation, but if I'm going purely based on role:
Tank: Dva, Zarya, and sometimes Sigma
DPS: Tracer, Soldier, Symmetra (I'm a Sym main and can get the value that others can't lol)
Sombra honorable mention but it HIGHLY depends on the situation.
Support: Moira (raw heals), Mercy (infinite ammo in moth lul), Ana (2 sleeping targets helps the fight 😉)
Maybe u can do a similar video when u list every hero to nano as ana it would be cool =)
Imagine you're echo and the other team is the worst 6 heroes. Lol unleaky, dude. 😂😂😂
The amount of poorly placed hero’s in this list, actually amazes me
He’s a console player so it’s expected
the busted thing about ana is you can fly above the enemy copy ana and anti heal all of them if theres no dva which is basically an instant win
the keyframing of the numbers is great
Im curious have any of u guys ever kill someone as widow while ur in midair
Yeah, only twice (I don't play widow that often) and I was really proud of myself lol
At least 40 times but I don’t play widow to much now
Bruh orisa has a top 5 ult not worst
Widowmaker's obviously. It's so useful already, but being able to get it just like that, omg it's just the best
NO way Moira has the third slowest charging ultimate
Not really the slowest charging, more like it takes more ult points( from dmg, heals, or time) to get it. But Moira does put out a lot of heals provided your team is bunched together.
personally
doomfist is my number 1
i agree that hes really annoying but thats cos he is so good
also the editing on this is cold nice job dude 👍❤️
doomfist is a horrible hero tf you talkin about?
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Bastion is great to copy if you are flanking or high in the air. Dropping down in sentry mode and mowing down the teams from behind you will easily get 1 or 2 kills before the enemy team even knows where you are
I take sombra all the time as echo, one of my fav to take. Yes she's gonna be in the back line but what's she there to do? Get a pick, if she picks you as the echo because you flew back into your backline for some healing that sombra may attack and I've had that happen, I took the sombra to defend myself then use sombras alt to turn the tide of the team fight as well
I agree that it's ridiculous to copy Mercy, but I respectfully disagree about her ult charge. To me it seems to build incredibly fast. I'm always the first one out of the gate to have ult, and get it 5-10 times per game. Are you referring to her ult charge WITHOUT healing?
her res is the reason ppl copy mercy, dumb as it sounds ive copied mercy to res my mercy who had valk before, won us that fight lol its situational but can work, but yes there are 100% better copy targets
I guess of genji with duplicate is like ne you ge no ki ro kra but genji says ne u gi no ke ro kre
About one point about the defensive ults like lucio or zen, you might’ve forgotten the possibility of echo ulting in reaction to the grav or visor, maybe they’ll get beat or trans fast enough to save their team idk
but why would a zarya or soldier ult when the enemy echo has copied lucio or zen. if the echo were to copy a zen in reaction to a soldier ult they probably arent gonna get the transcendence fast enough to have any value
Very creative editing zach!
right after he talked about soldier I got an ad about aluminum foil that's used for grilling, the prophecy is true
As someone that also edits there own videos, I know those transitions took some time to get perfect. Quality editing 👌
Once I was playing widow and the enemy echo duplicated me just to headshot me and annoy me but I didn’t get annoyed I found it funny instead lol
I did that exact same thing as echo once so you might be talking about me lol
@@IllegalPizza777 when did u do it? For me that happened yesterday in the map Paris lol
Oh lool i did it like a month and a half ago on temple of anubis so nope never mind XD
Have you seenn samitos opinion on the changes in KarQ?
I agree with most of the things you said but the main thing that I found untrue was when you said sym wasn’t meta. Right now sym is super meta on specific maps like lijang. In higher ranks not going sym on lijang is basically throwing. Still love the video tho.
the only viable dps heroes to copy are doom and tracer imo. All tanks can be atleast somewhat impactful in every situation and supports can be good in certain situations (ana and mercy can be clutch)
10:30 Just because someone is good with an ultimate doesn’t mean they should play that hero. I’m probably best at soldier but I main bastion
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great editing with the numbers
Tbh this is quite hard coz it depends on how good you are with the hero you copy
I like Cree because it allows to take more aggressive positioning and get a pick. Lol if my aim is not on point just flash fan the ult cancle and do that over and over again :)
where is our boy genji tho
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i just love duplicating mercy to rez our mercy that just died it’s the funniest shit
yeah its hilarious to res a mercy as echo and to be ressed by an echo as mercy lol
Torbjorn jizz gets me every time
I dont agree for mercy, because the actual reason someone would want to copy mercy is the Rez and not the ult… and when you copy mercy you know that your gonna die quickly because ur in the enemy back line, which means that ur not gonna charge ur ult anyways… so the only thing you might be able to do is Rez a dead tank or a dps that has ult
I mostly copy Genji and challenge myself to get as many ults as possible. Perfect practice.
I was able to get 3 each time. I like trying other heroes just to warm up.
Ngl I'm kinda surprised moria was so low down the list, normally when I copy moria I get my ult intently and just use it to dps and by the time I pop ult the enemy team is gonna be around half ho leaving me to get free kills and saving my team at it
That's because i think when he copies Moira he only left clicks, i honestly think a lot of rankings on this like are really bad
Echo mains: more echo content yessssssssssssssssssssss
the widowmaker #30 spider number was cool ngl
WAIT U DID IT FOR MULTIPLE!! THATS SO COOL
I sometimes just copy mercy to Rez a tank
why were you doing that in the moira clips....im scared
why is everyone saying hanzo is easy, someone pls explain, is there a setting im missing? because it took me a long time learning how to hit my headshots, i had to look up the best crosshair (the default one) and the best sensitivity, even watch some moxxy
His arrows are the size of trees and he has no reliable counter
@@agletuser6738 it turns out i over estimated hanzo players, i thought everyone played like aarge but they actually do suck, and im a pretty godly hanzo for my level, now i know why everyone asks them to switch, also kenzo's crosshair is the best, i had a second opinion
I once was trying to copy the enemy bastion and once he saw trying to copy him he ulted and when I copied he instantly shredded me
Love the editing
You just made my night
Funny that coalescence is the second slowest ultimate to generate, but while I'm in a game I get it first team fight
My favorite hero to copy as echo is echo
You will cause a paradox or dilemma
Torb a ult doesn’t generate ult charge?
5:22 u blowing moira?
Can you make a video about best nano’s?
Doomfist deserves a higher spot
My opinion: I don't think that echo copy zarya is a good idea because it is difficult to get energy to destroy the enemy teams, and if you get a lot of enrgy you can get your ultimate faster
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I'm not an ana player but she should be higher. do you even watch OWL? Leave's clutch ana duplicate was the reason why Hunters got the second point of Anubis against the Excelsiors
yeah shes definitely the best support to copy
Exactly, he doesn’t know what he is talking about
Copying orisa is pretty op, since u cany really tell when she is gold or not (the ablity)
Soo is that good I always dup Hana ?
I mean ye 3rd so "good" I guess
but I want your opinion guys
lately vids have been ever funny like the old ones
i always dup widow because i main widow. It is also really fun to widow diff the other widow. Or genji because i love ghost dashing with my golden sword
Big fan of copying Hog. I see a Hog, I’m very likely to play Echo. Having cool ults is great but not being able to reactively use them is a pain. A lot of ults need the right time and Echo just doesn’t have the time. There’s also ult generation issues and survivability. You gotta be able to survive long enough to get an ult. Once you get it, there needs to be a window to use it. Even if there is a window, you need to survive while getting it off. Even if you survive getting it off, it needs to actually make an impact. So, kit is just as important as ult to me and sometimes kit is the play. Hog has no such issues and a great kit. You can flank, copy Hog from a distance, hook and kill a backline enemy, cause some focus on you, heal it up, you can even wait for another hook and secure two kills for free or cause disruption and possibly kill someone with Whole Hog. You don’t even have Hog’s weaknesses during it. Usually you interrupt him and/or focus him down but if they kill your copy, you become a slim flying moth free to escape. Your ult is getting to play hog for 15 seconds and go back to dps. A good pin copying Rein the same way is also amazing but I find the hook easier, the disruption better, and the survivability greater. Still, no Hog means Rein is my next choice. Zarya is only in situations where you can force bubble value to gen a grav. My favorite is to play with a Zarya, have a dps with an ult go in bubbled and it gives me charge to get a grav or Rein go in and we double bubble him and also bubble ourselves as we join him using my grav to get value or it baits out things that counter grav and follow up with our real one. Zarya-Zarya or duo dps vs Zarya is a great combo for a duo that I do when it comes up. You can even send the copy Zarya in with two bubbles of protection who gets to become Echo when killed. The last one is Dva if no other are an option and I can dive a backline. Not only are dives sometimes not possible but typically Dva with no Rein, Zarya, or Hog is going full dive with Winston and that means Echo isn’t a priority but, yeah, Hog is an insta-lock always but Rein or Zarya is enough to justify Echo for me. All other cases I just become a dps without an ult and that just makes her have less value.
why was doom only at 14?
My favorite is junkrat because I’m cracked with junk
Sombra is the top 5 best easily for me b/c the question was is the duplicate good and yes it is and it doesn't matter if you can find her or not the duplicate is still good if you wanted to make her dead last you should have made the question the the easiest character to find and duplicate as echo. But that just my opinion and we all have our own.
That Zenyata screen confused me. But it was cool
I honestly thought that it was going to be rein at 3 road at 2 and Dva at 1
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The EMP ultimate is good in general and useful .
In my opinion its is Winston cause going ape shit with too winston on your team feel kinda broken
Orisa s ultimate is actually like in the top 3 in the owl so is one of the best
has the second higest team fight winrate behind obviously emp
5:25 us moira mains would like to disagree
I'm sorry but i disagree with so many of your choices, i mean sombra last one?? and Moira 27??
Who would take tips from this guy? Look at his gameplays he sucks.
@@mubarak6215 i mean i have to agree a lot of his „tipps“ are not really helpful or good
HE DOWN BAD FOR CONTENT NOW
I feel like mercy is kinda underrated because you can revive a teammate
Noti gang
i usually copy Reinhardt because of shatter being able to turn a fight
I only copy heros that i know how to play like DVA and most dps (also zen because ORB)
Why Zacks losing SR?
Because orisa ult is bad?
Wtf it's like top 5 ults