Was there a Glamrock Foxy? (Replaced & Rebranded)
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- There has been talk about a supposed Glamrock Foxy at Freddy Fazbear's Mega Pizzaplex, but was there ever one? And what does Roxy have to do with it? Well, let's find out!
Music:
Cemetery Clown - Sir Cubworth
Fnaf World Theme
Tales from the One-Eyed Cat Tavern - Help Wanted 2
Just Add Water - Pizzeria Simulator
In the Garden - Godmode
0:00 Was there a Glamrock Foxy?
0:58 Classic Foxy & his Bandmates
2:13 Why is Foxy a Pirate?
2:50 Efforts to 'Soften Up' Foxy
3:34 Foxy's Pirate Adventures Spinoff
4:04 The Rise of Cowboy Foxy (The Rebrand)
6:03 Was Glamrock Foxy Replaced in the Band?
7:33 If you don't see it, it's not there
8:01 Is Roxy a Foxy Replacement?
9:07 Did Roxy used to be Foxy?
9:50 Why did Cowboy Foxy Flop? Well...
12:25 Foxy's move into the Daycare
13:34 What I think Happened with Roxy & Foxy
14:51 The Truth about Glamrock Foxy
15:05 Addressing the Books
15:44 Foxy Foodfights with Possessed Monty Sorta
16:26 Debunking the Reliability of the Books 
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Foxy didn’t get replaced or destroyed. He simply retired from Fazbear Entertainment to pursue his lifelong passion, his calling to life…
Stonemasonry.
What
Wow, that’s so cool.
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Build or craft things with like bricks and stuff.
Maybe he wanted to go back to being a pirate
@venomfan2020 why do I see you everywhere
I still like my theory that Roxy replaced Foxy and knows that she replaced a popular character. So that contributes to her characterization as an insecure wreck. Just a head canon but it gives me something to think about while at work
This is kind of supported by them working together in the book more than anything. I think it's likely that the log ride was never even meant for a Foxy addition or a complete rebrand of Foxy. He still has his hook and eyepatch, so knowing Foxy, I don't think it's completely unlikely that he just had a pirate-cowboy adventure at some point. It seems like the perfect way to introduce Roxy as a character from the west (Wait, is this why Glamrock Chica was supposed to sound like a California Girl we're undeniable?) and then let her stand out on her own. I thought maybe Captain Foxy's Pirate Adventure was a movie and Foxy was popular enough to get his own establishment. Chica had her own location before, likely with the Posh Pizzeria series. Regardless, with the reintroduction of the bullies, seemingly for Carnival, I doubt Foxy is going anywhere just like Chica came back after SL and Bonnie came back after 3. I guess SB was just Foxy's turn and Freddy will never not show up because he's in the title.
God it’s so weird to me to think of the animatronics as actual characters, not because of a spirit possessing them that we then just call by the mascot name for shorthand, but because they’re apparently intelligent enough to be their own beings with their own thoughts and desires. It honestly feels like the wrong direction to take the series in. IMO the robots should just be robots, and they only act like characters because of spirit possession. The ai stuff is just dumb.
Good she does not deserve his spot her own spot sure but sorry she does not deserve to replace him she is not special.
@@tylernickson8287 This new way of engaging with FNaF scares me
I had this same thought. Her insecurity would make so much more sense and be that much more tragic. Roxy knows she replaced a popular character as the cooler alternative. Now she has to have the persona at all times. If she doesn't, she may be replaced just like she replaced Foxy.
I really like RyeToast’s theory that while Foxy was never at the Pizzaplex there were plans to bring Foxy in, but those plans ended up not happening because they were unable to finish the log ride.
1:11 back in my day we used to believe foxy was the most intelligent/aware of the group. golden Freddy was just a weird one with teleportation
Nowadays I believe Foxy was more aware than Freddy, Bonnie, and Chica, but less than The Puppet, Circus Baby, Peepaw, Micheal, and Golden Freddy. But not to a vast extent. Foxy seems like he is self aware enough to know when there is a disguise because he did see his own dead body with Fritz. But he wouldn't be able to act too autonomously compared to the aforementioned more aware souls. Though I think each soul is more aware in some aspects. Susie can hang around her family in the books, Gabriel is a good hider and sneak in the first game and gets more afraid with any knives present. And Bonnie is heavily aggressive and takes off his face a lot in certain trailers and stuff so they each have something that makes their possession and awareness unique.
@@robxholicfoxyfan8552foxy and puppet were the only ones not tricked by the mask.
i think its funny how the foxy craze went down so far despite him genuinely being the most unique in FNaF 1, best design and usually has the best/coolest mechanic
Rockstar foxy was always my favourite
Og Foxy IS still in my top 3 with Roxy and ballora
@@arianewinter4266 Ballora appreciation and recognition as she bloody deserves, fr. The franchise and the people running it treat her like expendable perverse fan service trash and I for one will not stand for it.
Bonnie and Foxy are neck to neck in polls on twitter fr
Dude is never in the spotlight but always has one of the best designs and mechanics
Could just be the nostalgia talking, but I didn’t like how after SL, random things that were important to the OG four animatronics were either changed or removed, whether that be some of them not getting dialogue in UCN or Foxy and Bonnie having hardly much of a presence in SB.
got to disagree on that also bonnie purposely doesn’t have a presence security breach
Chica sure wasn't in SL, so it's not a new phenomenon
Chica wasn’t in SL and Bonnie wasn’t in FNAF 3. So some of these dudes being missing isn’t new.
@@SteveMan_Steve8🤓erm Bonnie actually is in Fnaf 3 mini games in follow me and also shadow, Bonnie and toy Bonnieare in the game. Erm also spring trap is Bonnie🤓🤓🤓
To be fair Bonnie’s been pretty beloved and important for a while. With Springbonnie/springtrap being focal to the lord. Freddy always appears as well. And foxy has been in every game. Chica was the oddball since she was out of sister location. So now it’s Bonnie and foxys turn. I’m sure a new variant of them is gonna appear
I always imagined that foxy still had a significant part in the Fazbear brand as of security breach but just wasn’t an animatronic in the Pizza plex, like how Chica was missing in sister location or how the puppet went unused in most known locations but still was referenced by Fazbear entertainment
During F.N.A.F.5, I think she has her own sister location of Freddy’s and Circus Baby’s World called Chica’s Party World.
Yeah she exists she showed up in Fnaf 6 but she still wasn’t one of the animitronics present in the circus baby brand, I personally also imagine that she had her own location at the time. Also theirs the teasers before sister location that mentioned Chica’s party world, just like how theirs foxy themed track rides they weren’t non existent just not part of the main band
@@azimuddin1890 I think that was just the name for a CBEaR rental listing for Funtime Chica (and possibly others like Music Man if he is a Funtime) to explain their absence and later appearance in FFPS. Something as major as a whole sister location to the Sister Location never being mentioned once outside of a minigame from a previous title that certainly has nothing to do with it and a website source code string of text that only ever mentions it once, of which same source code was used for rental listings seems like a lot to keep hidden for no reason.
@@vincentadamsvga You are most likely right and I support your explanation for the Chica’s Party World never becoming a thing BS. Plus, why would one Funtime have their own entire location? That’s beyond stupid and counterproductive in multiple ways.
@@ALiteralRottenHusk i mean there could be other animatronics with her, lile whoever molten freddy mask is from
According to the Ruin collectables, the Log Ride attraction never got finished building. The only reason i think Cassie rode the log ride was cause her dad was a technician, so itd make sense fazbear would use employees kids as test subjects for rides that are still in beta. Im guessing that the cowboy branding didnt go over well from test groups and they dropped it before they got it off the ground and replaced it with the cooler Roxy.
that and the fact the entire ride was built like shit, and the only way to fix it was to tear the whole thing down. better to build over it i guess! cant forget the decapitating foundational beam
Because of the lack of Foxy and rather obvious replacement-but-not-quite in Roxy, I've had this headcannon for a while that Roxy's insecurities come not just from Fazbear's neglicence with AI, but also from the idea that she might know she's supposed to be a replacement. Maybe she's not entirely sure who she's replaced because of the lack of advertisement, but it gives her some more depth. I can imagine her being nice in front of the crowd, trying to put on the best show and hyping herself up to the detriment of others until she's forced into Safe Mode because there's a tiny voice in the back of her mind whispering that if she doesn't - that if the public doesn't like her enough - she might end up as a small side attraction in the daycare or have her raceway completely torn apart. Maybe that's also why she's so protective of it haha.
There's not really a lot of evidence towards this (well, maybe Bonnie being replaced so easily could tip her off, but that could easily not be relevant either), but if it was Bonnie, Freddy, Chica, and Roxy as the main 4 when the Pizzaplex was opened, she could have potentially figured it out. There is a mini museum exhibit about the franchise right in front of the band's greenrooms, so she would have access to the knowledge that the original were Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy. So definitely not impossible, but it's all just speculation.
It also puts Monty and Roxy in a unique position: they're the only ones aware that they're replacements. Monty is obvious, as he literally replaced Bonnie, but Roxy is also a replacement of Foxy even if there's no Glamrock version of him. Maybe she's even seen the broken logride. We know Chica goes down into the trash, Roxy might have wandered there or fallen in or something. This replacement idea could also explain why Freddy isn't really liked. Chica seems concerned in the intro and DJMM seems to be on good terms with him, but the other animatronics seem indifferent or outright hostile. Monty's hostilities are obvious, but Roxy is more indifferent, with the only notable interaction between them being when he enters her room after repairs.
But think of it this way: Freddy has been in every game possible, sometimes with multiple incarnations within the same game, and Chica has theoretically been through every animatronic generation except Springlock (Funtime Chicha exists, just not in SL), so they don't have to think of how they could easily be replaced for another character (even though they should if Mr. Glamrock Hippo is anything to go by), but Monty quite literally all but erased Glamrock Bonnie from existance and Roxy is a pretty obvious Foxy stand-in. It plays nicely with her attitude of having to be the best too, since she's well aware that if she isn't, she might be thrown to the side and burried.
I don't know, I just thought it gave some nice character to Monty and Roxy, and maybe offering some insight on why they (mostly Monty) hate Freddy, since, as the mascot, he's unlikely to ever be replaced by a new character (except when he quite literally is, but we'll ignore that). Again, more of a headcannon than anything else, there's very little hard evidence for this, but it doesn't detract anything from the characters imo.
I always thought it was something similar to what happened with the pirates of the Caribbean ride in Disney world, where before it's modern incarnation as the pirate ride we all know and love, it was cowboy themed, cause Disney thought pirates wouldn't sell well in Florida's already pirate saturated market. needless to say they were wrong and tons of people were upset at the lack of pirates in Disney world.
That actually makes sense
Now that I think about it that also strangely makes alot of the out of place western stuff with foxy make more sense.
@@gamingonamonday6342 Foxy just refused to exist at that point.
I like how Foxy and Roxy exist as two seperate characters in universe. Its cool to have variant characters that stand out on there own from there inspiration. Though i think its funny that both were designed with specific themes in mind, retro 80s and old time pirate
It's funny to think Foxy has technically NEVER been "erased" by his replacements. The Foxy line is so unique that any attempt to replace him ended up with creating a whole new character.
Mangle was originally Toy Foxy (or Funtime according to FNAF World but that was probably the same idea that ended up in the Fourth Closet and is not canon to base games) but in game, she isn't just a variation... He is her own character and got variation on his own. There isn't any "Phantom Toy Bonnie" or "Nightmare Funtime Chica" BUT there is a "Phantom Mangle" and there is a "Nightmare Mangle". All existing ALONGSIDE Phantom Foxy and Nightmare Foxy.
In Freddy's in Space 3 (a troll game made by Scott himself), the party consists of Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, Foxy... And Mangle as her own separate being. Heck, even Funtime Foxy (whotechnically isn't a replacement as he wasn't meant to be at a "Freddy's") is visually more of a Mangle variation than a Foxy one.
While the others were either... HIM (like Phantom Foxy that is litterally Withered Foxy) or not meant to be replacements at all (Nightmare Foxy was an illusion/a bot not meant for public and Rockstar Foxy was just a decoy made by Henry to trick William, Elizabeth and the Funtimes).
And now we have Roxy that isn't even ADVERTISED as a Foxy.
So yeah, Foxy really is the only one that CANNOT be replaced. Spiritual heirs are alright, but there is only ONE Foxy, technically.
Headcanon: Foxy sailed off into the the distance/rode off into the sunset after hearing about the whole Bonnie incident and took as much evidence of him being there as he could with him.
Sheriff Foxy was just Foxy having a midlife crisis, huh?
While the whole thing with rebranding Foxy as a cowboy that confused audiences and never cameback after that makes sence, I always had a theory that Glamrock Foxy was more like an actor, obviously because of the roles of a captain pirate and a cowboy, but also, since SB had a theater place, which it had a poster of Foxy next to it, it might have make sence on that
I don't think Foxy was ever gonna be a Glam BUT I do think a Captain Foxy was being at least made since he had his own section in the Pizzaplex
I'd like to suggest that since there's zero Foxy animatronics in the Pizzaplex it's extremely possible that Fazbear Entertainment was in the middle of replacing the outdated Foxy animatronic seen/referenced in the various decor and the log ride with an updated Foxy using the modern Glamrock animatronic's endos and casings which takes time to program and the software correctly as well as design, prototype, fit, test, and the shell for him.
I like to imagine foxy is like the old retired Grandpa telling stories in the kids Cove about his glory days and then meanwhile his great-granddaughter Roxanne took his place on the stage to entertain a new generation
From what I can tell with there having been no mention of a Glamrock Foxy it shows how Fazbear Entertainment must've tried to experiment with seeing how popular his log ride would've been with an older audience to get a modern look like the other Glamrocks. Since the log ride failed they could've just decided to scrap the concept as a whole with Foxy getting a glamrock design and then realized they needed make a new character like Roxanne to fit with an older audience for the theme that Pizzaplex was going for with Go-Karts being a more popular choice in a party place than a slow log ride. Awesome job on this video NotRealName!
I agree that Roxy isn't Foxy, however, I feel that part of her inferiority complex is actually rooted in the fact that she knows she's replacing Foxy and she has to live up to that imposing legacy. Part of what seems to go along with this is after Gregory wrecks the kart into her and takes her eyes, she starts chasing him through what appears to be some sort of furnace room. Said room has a ton of Foxy merch ready to be burned up.
Also another reason they likely would have made Roxy is that otherwise Chica was hard-carrying all the aspiring little girls. As it stands, Chica is supposed to be the cook/waitress character, but she's also the exercise gal. That is already too many things pushed onto one gal, so having another female cast member helps lighten the load in that aspect, and on that not, Roxy has clearly achieved that goal since gals and guys alike really like her.
I mean ,the number of people who fell for her when they heard her talking to herself in the mirror is notable.
Fun fact : there is a Funtime Foxy plushie hidden in Roxy's Room. So yeah, she's probably aware she's the last one of the brand.
Or that's just a meta commentary on her own personality since after SL, Scott joked about Funtime Foxy not having voice-lines by saying "You don't understand, Funtime Foxy is more of an introvert, you know?". And with how he is pridefully-over-the-top in UCN, the idea of the introvert acting as the vain loud one represents Roxy pretty well.
For the ending stuff about the books.
Chica being yellow is because that was early in the pizzaplex. She is shown to have a cupcake too. In fact, she is likely the Chica who was in the sewer in the other story. Abe explicitly calls her 'a' Glamrock Chica, implying she's not the original. And he finds her alongside a bunch of other animatronics that got dumped here, its not Gregory's doing.
"Whereas the storage level was kept clean and was brightly lit, this floor was little more than an indoor landfill. And it was infested with wandering, wasted animatronics. Abe sucked in his breath when his flashlight’s beam landed on one such animatronic. The pitiful remains of a Glamrock Chica resting against the sewer’s outer wall blinked at Abe and raised a handless arm. The lower part of Chica’s face was a gaping maw."
It makes it clear these are all old animatronics who were left to rot here, and calling her 'a' Glamrock Chica makes it clear its not the one currently being used.
The 'Moondrop' is just a hallucination of Moon, not the actual animatronic IIRC.
Also, the Mimic does not dress in a tiger costume. Tiger Rock existed as a robot head in the storyteller, and also as a form it takes in the virtual world. It wears a bunch of different costumes, including a lion one, it never wears a tiger costume.
I think that both Pirate and Cowboy Foxy have a place to exist alongside Roxy. I think the theming for all three Foxy variants are adorable.
Maybe Roxy could have been a sidekick, or protégée to Foxy who stepped up to bat when Foxy stepped down!
(14:36) Off-topic, but this art and the other images of Captain Foxy really makes me wish Foxy sported this outfit in F.N.A.F.1 and variations of Foxy would also have this outfit too. Imagine Withered Captain Foxy, Phantom Captain Foxy, Nightmare Captain Foxy, RockStar Captain Foxy? Would’ve loved that.
would NM!Captain Foxy be more like a POTC davy jones? Maybe Phantom Captain Foxy might even have the little ghost wisp tail thing?
@@itsumikoroko
Maybe but it sounds cool
2021/2023 Captain/cowboy foxy?
2019 Freddy in space 2 Roxanne wolf and foxy?
Imagine if we had both him and Bonnie in the whole glamrock band. Imagine if him and Bonnie where also allies to Gregory working with Freddy to stop vanny.
“So… was there a glamrock foxy? Yes. Yes there was. And her name is Roxanne wolf. Thank you for watching.” = THE THING I NEEDED SOMEONE TO SAY SINCE IVE KNOWN ABOUT ROXY!!!
No Glamrock foxy?
2021/2023 Captain/cowboy foxy?
2019 Freddy in space 2 Roxanne wolf and foxy?
My theory is that Fazbear Entertainment didn't have a Glamrock redesign for Foxy, in an attempt to keep him as nostalgia-bait... but then of course Corporate wanted a Foxy-esque character in the band, without making confusing branding.
Thus, they made Roxy for the band, and then had Foxy separate... and then didn't lean into the nostalgia-bait because "That's too niche!", so they changed the approach to try to please everyone, it failed, and then they muddled the branding with the Captain/Cowboy stuff, angering the nostalgia crowd, leaving only the kids who still liked Foxy.
Wildly speculative theory: Steel Wool is saving Glamrock Foxy as a draw for a future FNaF game.
Even Wilder Crazy theory: Glamrock Foxy killed Glamrock Bonnie, and is also the Mimic somehow!
That reminds me that over the years foxy has always been the animatronic to give me the LEAST trouble. Rarely ever was killed by him. But when my friends play they get jumped by him.
Led to the inside joke that me and foxy are actually best buds.
I don't think there ever was a Glamrock Foxy. Since Help Wanted 2 shows Captain Foxy I do think that the human employees at the Mega PizzaPlex were halfway through construction of the log flume ride, therefore not even close to being able to brainstorm Glamrock design ideas for Foxy, right before Vanessa was hired... Right before they were most likely killed. Let's be honest, what Cassie finds doesn't look at all like they were taking it apart to build more of Roxy Raceway but moreso being under construction
According to Cassie, the log ride wasn't finished due to safety concerns.
I choose to go with the Undeniably Canon Timeline’s explanation, where Foxy was just a gimmick character for Fredbear & Friends to drive up ratings that Afton despised, and every other version of him without the pirate gimmick was an attempt at rebranding.
*"Was there a Glamrock Foxy?*
*No."*
10/10 video, got straight to the point.
To me foxy was probably still in an much older model then the other animatronics. I'm only thinking this because his posters look much more like his oldee version.
I'd argue that "Toy Foxy" and Funtime Foxy are evidence they'd eventually gender-swap and pallet-swap foxy so there would be two "girls" and two "boys" in the group for marketing purposes. I think Toy Foxy was the "fail", as it did become the mangle from children not respecting it / not liking it. I then think Funtime Foxy was drifting away from the total swap; but also I suspect that William Afton specifically created the Toy Foxy look, because then the Funtimes are all clearly based off of Mangle's look (and the funtime band mirrors the glamrock ratio of two "girls" and two "boys"). I wonder if Mangle's fate also sort of echos a theme the community has long suspected; that Henry's ideas seemed to be more successful and Afton's ideas weren't as popular; the Toy Series were released together, but the children did not treat Toy Fox like the other three and kept dismantling it. This could be taken a few different ways, but I think it shows the target audience wasn't "convinced" or "won over" by the re-design, while accepting the new designs of the other characters.
And then, years later, I think Roxy was successful because she has a more distinct design apart from Foxy; she is not a pallet swap and so I think the target audience was more accepting; her design does not remind them of a previous character much in the same way Monty does not remind them of Bonnie (they notice Bonnie is missing, but don't recognize Monty as a replacement/re-design of that character-type). To the adult eye we see the points of comparison, but these mascots are designed for children and so it would make meta-sense that we, the player, could see connections and "clues", but that in-universe children would not.
I think you're spot on with this. A decline in popularity, a hasty re-theme attempted, ultimately replaced by cooler radder Roxy- who is the Fazbear version of Sonic and Shadow the hedgehog. "What if there was a second one of this character who is the same except this one is a different color and more edgy/modern."
Also I love when people take apart the books. People don't dunk on the books often enough. They're awful from a writing, entertainment, and lore standpoint all at once and I think it's weird that the fandom doesn't care about how absolutely garbage they are. They're like a 15 year olds rejected scary story, padded out to fill a page count and with 1 random element replaced with faz-something. They're both too slow to excite adult fans and too violent to really be appropriate for children. They are no one and the brand should consider them a disgrace. (Like come on, I could have come up with a better Moon themed scary story in literally two minutes.)
“I think it’s weird that the fandom doesn’t care about how absolutely garbage they are”
Oh, the Reddit community begs to differ lol
It's also mentioned that Glamrock Chica still has her cupcake in the books. I remember it from "The Storyteller" because she _literally becomes so needy for attention she loses her gluttony._
Honestly knowing how the Glamrocks are created it wouldn’t surprise me if Fazbear Entertainment simply took Foxy’s endo replaced his voice changed his personality and then slapped him into the Roxy shell and called it a day
6:36: Ahh, yee, I see a lack of Bonnie on the stage. Just only a little bit of Bonnie, but not much.
I have a headcanon that with every location Freddy has different band mates. For example in one location there’s Freddy, Bonnie, and Chica, but instead of Foxy there’s Monty, in another one perhaps Roxy is in Chica or even Bonnie’s place, and maybe there’s even a few locations where Freddy is paired up with some animatronics we’ve never even seen or heard about before.
The Pizzaplex that we’re familiar with is just one of those locations that uses Roxy instead of Foxy, and maybe there is a Pizzaplex that does use Foxy, but Monty, Roxy, Bonnie, or Chica are just not apart of that location.
Maybe the reason for Kid’s Cove and the canceled log ride is because Foxy was one of Freddy’s more popular friends, or perhaps he was planned to be at the Pizzaplex but Fazbear entertainment thought that 7 animatronics was more than enough money spent, especially since the log ride went nowhere so they just put a statue of Foxy in Kid’s Cove and called it a day.
The Pizzaplex seems large enough for there to be only one, but yeah, I'd see smaller restaurants only having one or two animatronics or mixing characters being a thing
^^ I actually have some designs based on this very concept!
Honestly I personally think Glamrock Foxy did exist at one point, just far enough in the past to where most of his presence was removed by Fazbear entertainment. Bonnie was only retired because of him being destroyed, so it's likely re branding Monty as the base player took up most of the companies time and as a result, left a lot of references to his existence. Foxy on the other hand seems to be a purposeful incident on Fazbears part, likely as a way to bring the company into a modern setting, and from what we can see, it seems like it's been long enough to where Fazbear entertainment has scrubbed most of his presence from the Pizzaplex, replacing it with Roxy. This could also explain why Roxy is so insecure. Sure, Foxy was the odd one out in the group, but he was still MASSIVELY popular, so the weight on her shoulders trying to live up to her predecessor who's been in the franchise since it's creation 50 years ago would take a mental toll on anyone.
I seriously want a Fnaf fan game where we are in a Foxy themed location and there are glamrock version of all of the Foxy variants with different names....
I personally believed that all four of the original animatronics had glamrock variants, then a series of bad accidents occurred until only Chica and Freddy weee left
No
Freddy in space 2 Freddy and Wendy the wolf
Honest opinion: im glad that in modern fnaf cast is using different animals instead of the "original 4" because it allows for verity, imo. Now we just a replacment of sorts for chica.
Darla the Duck XD
Cant wait to learn about Flamrock Gloxy
ha
Flames and a Glock? That's an interesting decision.
Froxsy the Glockstar.
this is getting out of hand now the creator is on the joke.@@notrealnamenotatall2476
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Ah yes, the only fnaf character to carry a glock with them at all times
I think the most frustrating thing about the Glamrock Chica being yellow in that story, is that in the same story, about a paragraph or so later, THEY DESCRIBE HER AS WHITE! Me and my friends were raging about that for like weeks
OH FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, THAT'S EVEN WORSE. XDD
Clearly, Foxy is just Roxy's out of touch dad.
*New Headcanon acquired*
I think Steel Wool bringing in new characters is great. As much as I was sad to see foxy and bonny missing, I appreciate the introduction of new characters after however many games of the same ones just in different iterations. What I dont like is how quickly these new ones have already been retired. Monty is surely too far gone to be brought back and Roxy was defeated by the mimic. Two new characters that replaced some classics are now just gone and what are we even left with?
Foxy was always my fave but glamrock bonny is basically tied now, which I think is quite ironic.
I hope Monty and Roxy aren’t dead, I hope they come back
In my heart, there is.
I should probably see a doctor.
In my heart…your sob story is stinky, no offense eggplant man.
foxy left to make his pirate show.
After Foxy said that slur on stage they had to replace him with Roxy
The thing with yellow Chica is that she was seemingly an older version, as that Shattered Chica in the sewers is yellow, implying that Fazbear Entertainment through her out and replaced her with the white version. But overall, I like the video a lot! It's easy to just say "no, there was or wasn't a Glamrock Foxy" and just leave it at that, but I'm happy to see speculation on it instead.
With the whole place kinda screaming cyberpunk, Cyberpunk Space Pirates could've worked for el cap-i-tan
When I said the title of the video in my notifications, I thought it said foxys only f- … a naught website that I stay far away from 🤣😭
Plus I think foxy was made to be in love with chica. And so, that means, that Freddy was made to love bonnie
My boy foxy was just done dirty. I suppose after a main game without a proper chica and bonnie variants it was only fair for there to not be a foxy in a main game.
Hopefully he shows back up proper sometime in the future
while I don't agree with anything you said about Glamrock foxy not existing, I am glad someone is finally bringing up how important the cartoon versions of these characters are.
i am convinced that there was an era when foxy was the DCA and sun/moon resided in the daycare theater
and later on, when the theater shows shut down, fazbear removes OG foxy since roxy already exists
Plausible. I mean, it makes sense since Mangle (a Foxy variation) was already meant to take care of kids (before becoming a take-apart-and-put-back-together toy, that is) and even the name "Kid's Cove" originates from Mangle's location. So the Foxy line was established as the one taking care of kids, just like the Freddy line is the singer one.
I like to imagine Foxy was just the captain foxy model/look from Help Wanted 1/2, just a classic Foxy animatronic in this pizzaplex, contrasting the high tech animatronics. Foxy was probably retired when the log flume was taken down. Or maybe not, maybe he’s just in a closet someplace.
i really love the Cath phases in your titles and thumbnails they are so creative like sun and moon with A dying star or roxys Fixed by being broken I love it
also your an hour EARLY
I feel like to keep Foxy in theme with what Fazbear's had become while still having him in his pirate theme he's famous for is to have him be like a galactic pirate or something (think like what Jonathan Young did with his music videos for "Glory or Gold" and "Man the Cannons" for an idea of what I mean), keeping him in his pirate themed roots while still fitting in with the new high-tech and "hip with the kids" branding
Woah the first 10 seconds I was already flabbergasted
Foxy just went to the liquor store after realizing the rum is gone :)
Quote by Brightshadow, concept artist for steel wool and lore keeper: "Glamrock foxy was built for kids cove along with a prototype glamrock mangle, who was never finished. Foxy was shut off one day when a kid spilt his sodaroni on him, and he spazzed out. He was never fixed, cuz they had no money, and suck at their jobs, so they just turned the mangle design into roxy instead. Glamrock foxy had a fear of styrofoam. This is all canon. Next post will be about toy Freddy's favorite games."
i just opened youtube and your video was on my face saying 9 seconds ago
I like to think that Roxy is Foxy's niece :-)
12:03 Nice picture there considering what handcuffs are also used for aside from detaining criminals and how much of a " Mommy " Roxy is to some folks. ;)
D8
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Pfft!
Glam Foxy isnt in security breach because undead phone guy who is secretly the ceo of fazbear ent saw that the animatronics were being tampered and took his favorite boi out to be his personal animatronic. But hey that just a theory.
rockstar animatronics built specifically to be burned? i would LOVE to hear more about this actually
My theory has always been that Foxy was too hard to keep fixing and they might’ve just wanted to keep him off to the side to avoid the trouble. I find it odd that there’s basically nothing on him like glam rock Bonnie has so that just helps feed my delusions! I feel like it’d be pretty cool to see his glam rock version make an appearance, along with his boat ride!!
Hottake: Roxy is Foxy, but they thought the same as with Mangle or Funtime Foxy that is mor marketable to make girl fox.. and seeeing many MANY fanarts... i can agree it was a good move..
Okay to address your issues with the books:
1. There are actually hints that an older version of Chica existed (her guitar is in a museum case in Rockstar Row despite her already having it, a Cupcake can be found in both her greenroom, as well as another case in RR. Her neon sign is also yellow, despite other various signage throughout the pizzaplex clearly showing that SW could have chosen WHITE neon to match her actual colouring. The rest of the band's strollers match their general colour-scheme, while chica's is yellow and pink, as opposed to white and pink
2. Completely fair
3. It's mentioned that DJMM has the bouncer mode and that the technician either couldn't or forgot to remove a line or two of the code, so it's likely he WAS in bouncer mode during that scene
4. As mentioned for point 1, it's just another Chica. Yeah, it's weird, but what can ya do? lol
5. Okay so I don't have the actual line on hand rn, but in Help Wanted, during the 'build-a-mangle' section, it says something about "other pizzerias", as well as Frights showing us that multiple pizzerias opened up after fnaf 6. Even if Frights isn't canon, that still provides us some useful info about the game timeline. This means that Kane could've just been referring to a different Pizzeria entirely
6. There is never a white tiger costume present in either RUIN or the tales epilogues. He has the chance to use a PURPLE tiger in epilogue 8, but instead goes for the jester outfit, likely meaning he's not even too attached to the tiger persona.
Hope this helped, great video!
I always theorized that there was a Glamrock Foxy, but he was decommissioned after he killed Glamrock Bonnie, meaning they both had to be replaced!
Foxy went from scurvy to dysentery
Lmfao
I don't appreciate being told the fan theory of Foxy turning into Roxy. I wish this video had not shared that theory because that conjures up the images of a glam rock foxy being strapped to a table as he's turned into Roxy while Fazbear enterprises laughs evilly.. that's a mental image I did not need
Yoo Great Video!
Enjoy Your stuff keep going!
I Always Wondered about Foxy In Kids Cove.
You sure you even finished it yet
@@frostedbunnie7 yeah , skipped through segments on first watch then rewatched the full thing.
When you said "have their cake and eat it too" my brain just instantly went to Valentine by 5 Seconds of Summer 😅😂
Foxy has been one of my favourite animatronics for a while (foxes are one of my favourite animals) so I hope he does make a return sooner rather than later! But that’s just me haha.
7:59 tired, Noname 🐦?
Maybe Foxy being replaced was an excuse to bring a "hotter" character into the mix :P ? I mean... joke theory is a joke.
I do miss the original four. with the popularity of the new characters, I wonder how they'll continue the core cast after the Security Breach arc is over.
I'd like to put forward the idea that Roxy was Foxy in the prototyping stage. However, during the development of the Pizzaplex, they thought, "this needs some more spice," and redesigned him into a new character.
I don't have any actual physical evidence, so this is just a headcanon, but it would also make sense of why they look so similar. She literally WAS him at first.
I think Foxy was originally supposed to be the daycare attendant. Especially since it’s stated that sun/moon was originally meant to perform in plays until corporate decided to move him to the daycare.
So instead of having 2 animatronics in the daycare they removed Foxy to make room for the new face. This could explain why Foxy has an obvious but limited presence in the Pizzaplex especially if the decision was made before the Pizzaplex opened.
It makes sense that Foxy the pirate had no place in a high tech pizzaplex and that Fazbear ent decided to make an attraction that did fit the plex (after cowboy foxy and the log ride failed) and bring in more sales and then worry about making a mascot or animatronic to fit it which ended up being Roxy. Either she was placed in the band to get more people in Roxy raceway or she was so popular she got put in the band. Then, since Foxy is still well loved and they kept his merch and put him/his stuff in the daycare because most little kids like pirates and maybe he became a storyteller but got decommissioned.
Personally, I think Foxy's personality has been tainted with Michael's grief. It is so deep-rooted that the character cannot be put in one of the self-machine learning endos and despite many attempts, they couldn't put Foxy into one of them.
So they made the best next thing could do: Just like Sun and Moon, the put two personalities into one body, Baby and Michael then flipped the switch and got Roxy (just like Cassie did with Eclipse) I've been thinking for a while that the personalities of the animatronics are not random, they're made from the data they've gathered from FNAF 1 to Pizzeria simulator.
Which is why Vanessa only threatened G.Freddy back in SB instead of just shutting it down, she knows getting a replacement is no easy task, the nature of the animatronics makes them unpredictable, even if you make a copy of them, wipe their memories, replicate the same learning pattern to teach the endos, it won't guarantee the endos will become docile to their bidding.
I think it might be possible that Foxy's role (if he was supposed to have one) in the Pizzaplex is that he might have been supposed to be an actor, similar to the Staffbots that act and play roles in the theater, shown in the HW2 staffbot makeup minigame. With the hints of him originally being meant for the daycare, it would make sense that he also was supposed to preform in the Fazbear Theater in the daycare. Maybe Cowboy Foxy was one of his roles he played, along side pirate Foxy and potentially other genres. It would make sense with there being posters and cutouts for a "Pirate Foxy's Adventure" movie/performance all over the Pizzaplex. That could be one of his roles he plays in the theater.
william: no foxys living in my basement until he can get a new job.
Foxy be like. “But William I need to be a popular gaming RUclipsr
(7:01) That is a face that says “I exist. I’m dead, but I exist.”
Always love your different takes/ different topics for vids
I'm struggling to understand how we didn't get a glamrock foxy. But we technically got a glamrock Mr Hippo
😢
It sucks to me i dont doubt anyone would even complain if we had Roxy AND Foxy
Heck, Foxy could be a mentor figure to Roxy and get her confidence back tbh
He could tell her his woes of never being in the spotlight and yet still being many peoples favorite
Oh yes! Been waiting for a video from you on this topic😊 keep up the good work
He probably would’ve had this type of cowboy riding horse area
9:09 When you mentioned the theory that Roxy might have been Foxy, I was reminded of a comic I saw a long time ago where Foxy was transgender, and then went through the robot equivalent of a sex change to become Roxy.
I've never been the biggest fan of foxy mainly because I just liked the others more but I can certainly understand why people adore him.
My fav version of foxy is probably withered foxy but it might also be mangle.
Idk
I believe that Foxy was there , considering he was apart of the main storyline ( Micheal Afton wearing a Foxy Mask as a teen in fnaf4 ? ( Is that 4? ) Anyways , I believe that he wasn't ready yet to be released as his Glamrock version.
Great video per usual ❤
Another possibility is that Foxy was gonna get an official debut at the Megaplex, as a part of a phase 2/expansion that never happened because the entire Megaplex got ruined. Something similar was suggested by RUclipsr RyeToast.
i think if we got 6 days instead of 1 day we might have got him but i think they wouldve used mimic to make it seem like we had foxy, because i believe mimic was running around the pizza plex while we were and i think prior to ruin they cemented him down below
A continuation of what I will call Pre-Glamrock Pizzaplex:
I have a headcanon that revolves around the idea of half-generations and Fazbear being super-cheap. In this, when the Pizzaplex opened, it wasn't Glamrock themed, instead it used what they had lying around and in storage: the AR animatronics, spare parts from the Funtimes, and scraps found in the FNaF6 wreckage.
My evidence is the slew of random very not 80's glamrock themed stuff: The Castle/Mr Rogers themed Sun/Moon/Eclipse, El Chip, the Storyteller tree from the books, and Pirate Foxy.
I think Pirate Foxy, Bowling Bonnie, and DJ Music Man started out as salvaged or surplus Rockstars.
Under this Daycare Attendant is a salvaged or experimental version of Security Puppet. Not the haunted one Vored by Left-E, but a new version of the same concept, like how Puppet existed alongside the Classics/Pre-Withered [the OG posessed ones] but had systems expanded on to make the Toys and possibly Funtimes [the patron tracking feature that is common to all 3]. Possibly built on the Mimic endo found.
I also think Glamrock Freddy [and maybe Chica] started out as a salvaged Funtime. Again, not the posessed one that made Ennard/Molten Freddy/Blob/Tangle/ whatever that abomination is called in the next game where it appears as the final boss, but salvaged parts from CBPR or its potential replacement, the AR service. This explains why he has a cavity that can hold kids.
Monty Gator could have come from another restaurant or FazService, or might be an original character for the Pizzaplex, maybe with an attempt at a Cajun eatery in the golf course, along with modified Rockstar/Funtime Chica's Bakery, Bonnie Bowl and Pirate Foxy's Cove.
Shortly after the opening, corporate did what corporate does and had committee meetings and demanded a unified brand, settling on Prince and KISS as the inspiration, leaving in the stuff that still worked [Monty and Bonnie Bowl], modifying what didn't [Pirate Foxy and Music Man] and eventually promoting the 2 newest characters to the main roster, relegating Bonnie and Foxy to jobber roles [to use a wrestling term].
18:21 There is a theory that it’s the mimic trying to mimic Gregory, based on the details of how similar their designs are
Also if anything it should’ve been trying to mimic Vanny since she was the one experimenting with it
Actually, Mimic mimicking Vanny would've probably been really creepy. O.o
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 yeaaaah
I like to imagine “what if it switched between different costumes from the books every time you played the scooper ending”
And also if you were to play that rout with the VANNI mask on as long as possible then it would be in her old costume from the base game and reuse her voice lines and even the unused ones
I say the unused ones too because of the “Vanny chasing Gregory in Chicas Bakery Easter egg” in the daycare theater” (which NEVER happened before)
Which implies there was more of a story with her in the base game than what we got, we just can’t experience it
I mean, we did get a Mr. Hippo fridge magnet, plus a Glamrock Mr. Hippo and the Mystic Hippo. Who's to say Orville is out of place in a book appearance?
I feel like if they have a foxy anamatronic, and if it is in the play center but with bonny's murder maybe foxy had a similar issue, ngl
And eclipse is sun and moon drop them using moondrop might be stating they are in control
Freddy's tie and hat are black in the cartoon; like in the "vintage" or "retro" poster... Hmmm... Does that place the date of the cartoon and the "freddy era" of FNAF4?
Another upload right in time to help me get through an boring chore haha appreciated it 😀
YAR-HAW
-Foxy the pirate shierff
The Concept Unification reference made my inner CEC/RAFE fan both happy and sad. Rip Billy Bob and the gang aside from a few locations