What you DIDN'T know about Chair Shots in WWE
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- From The Stevie Richards Show episode 3 - What you DON'T know about chair shots in WWE
Yes, that's right. at one point in WWF/WWE, if you protected yourself from a chair shot to the head, WWE would actually fine you. As evidenced by Stevie Richards' breakdown of how much he actually made from WWE for the majority of his career, protecting his head from a chair shot could have cost him two weeks' worth of money (after expenses).
Aside from WWE fining wrestlers, due to the influence of ECW, taking unprotected chair shots was the "manly" thing to do, as well as giving yourself CTE to go along with the handshake and the hot dog you were paid that night. Thankfully, WWE in 2024 is a different place and chair shots to the head have been effectively banned for the better part of 15 years. Nowadays, chair shots to the back have been on the steady decline as well.
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In contrast to what was described here, Bill Watts would notoriously chastise anyone who did NOT put their hands up to try and block a chair shot. His observation was that it looks more realistic to try to block it because that is what your natural reaction would be.
He was right about that
Yes, it's true, even when we are hit by something unnoticed, our first reaction, even without thinking, is to put our hand up to protect ourselves, it's a natural defense of our body
I find Stevie’s claim here to be dubious.
That's what I was thinking. When do people not protect themselves from something they see coming? It's not logical
100 percent correct
Who knew Steven Richards would be one of the best talents in the wrestling "podcast" space.
It’s very early we don’t know that yet he gotta show some respect
Sadly, I can already see the negativity creeping in. James used to be very humble and respectful. But I guess some just get caught up with the YT plaque.
Stevie: Chair shots are bad
Also Stevie: Does the most INFAMOUS chair shot of all time 😂😂😂
Pretty sure the rocks on mick has the record on that
@@tylerdurden788
For real!
JBL told him to lay in the receipt. I don't like the dude, but he took his lumps.
@@RedonkulousCaptious JBL gave the most brutal shot I've ever seen and that was to Eddie where Eddie bladed too deep
Oh my God, the handcuffed Mick and Eddie blade job shots were so bad. Ok, ONE of the most brutal 😂
For anybody training to wrestle today channels like this are very educational and I appreciate guys like you Stevie for taking us back to when I was a child and being real
In Austin's auto biography I remember reading he put his hands up for chair head shots because in his mind it was more logical to put up your hands.
The Rock would put a hand up for most chair shots he took. But I doubt he got in trouble
That's a pretty dumb rule. In a real fight if you saw a weapon coming straight to your head, you'd put your hands up to soften the blow and protect yourself.
That's way more realistic
As far as chair spots, I think Taker and Maven had a point when Maven was on six feet under. Why do we not see the chair to the throat spot more. It is pretty safe because it is controlled by the talent taking the move but it looks devastating.
Seeing Mick Foley take all those chair shots at Royal Rumble 1999 was brutal to watch. It's crazy that no one talked about it much during the Attitude Era at the time.
The only time an unprotected chair Shot makes sense is if someone like Bret has someone in the sharpshooter or angle has someone in the ankle lock where both arms are occupied and someone runs in and BAM!!! That's it.
It seems like people should put their hands up. Who isn’t going to try to defend their self? Clean shots should be really rare out of believability if nothing else.
From what I've heard about the Styles Clash, it's dangerous because, if you try and take it like a normal pile-driver style bump, it can do real damage!
You have to do the opposite of what you do for other bumps like that, and it's completely fine.
I believe i heard that from James Ellsworth on Jericho's podcast some years ago.
In a lot of bumps you are told to tuck your chin and never bend your head back. This is one of the few moves wrestlers are asked to go against what they are taught. Imagine you've took a few hard shots, bit of confusion.. I can see how it even caught Stevie out.
even in high school wrestling we learn that when falling tuck your chin in, protect your head and neck. Styles-clash runs counter to that to receive the move safely.
I just want to say I’m realizing now that I have never watch you wrestle or even know who you are but I watch all of your videos because I respect your experience and showmanship your very good at content creation
The best finish, is one that can be done to anyone, any size, any time.... safely.
A wrestler shouldn't have one finish. They should have several moves that they can get a win out of. That way it keeps from being the 5 moves of doom boring crap and it allows them to work situations.
14:58 "He might get the number wrong" lmao thanks Stevie and gang!
Putting your arm or hand up is one of those things that needs to be done from time to time to make it look natural. If you took multiple shots with your head and never tried to block it wouldn't be natural...... but if you put your hand up for every single one of them it looks fake.
Agreed.
i popped so hard when Stevie mentioned ultraviolent hogan's chair shots LOL
When I was like 14(late 1990s) me and my friend were wrestling in his family's living room and he gave me a pedigree on hardwood floor without releasing my arms and its the only time I've ever been knocked out in my life. Woke up not knowing what happened and my face and head was killing me. We didn't really wrestle each other anymore after that because it kinda scared me.
I know it's not supposed to be a funny story, but I pictured it in my head and just had to laugh 😂
Saturday Morning Slam was the show he was looking for.
I as a wrestling fan would NEVER want to see unprotected chair shots to the head return. chest, back, legs, all fine. headshots is straight up asking for permenant damage. Even "gimmcked" chairs tbh
Booker T used to do a leg drop off the top rope with a flip. Nobody seems to remember that and he doesn't complain about his legs at all
Harlem Hangover!
That top rope falcon arrow Seth Rollins uses was in fact his finisher in ROH. He called it The Lamb Of God after the band.
stevie we love you my home turf philly especially ECW! And what ur doing now is amazing ❤ so cool and i hope you get a million subs buddy maybe you and maven can do a episode!
Love the ending shout put to Hogan. So many people take him for granted
Matt Hardy said after doing the leg drop off the cage, he could barely walk the next day and that was 20 years ago when he was young!
D'lo had a running leg drop which was almost like a slide - probably not so hard on his spine.
It always makes me sad when people talk about the vertebreaker and how people perform it and Megumi Kudo never gets a mention :( she only invented the move and performed it more than anyone
Shawn Spears has a DVD called C4
Finn Balor's finisher should be banned. I'm surprised there haven't been any reports of kids seriously injuring or even killing other kids by doing that move yet. I guess WWE will wait until it happens.
Actually from everything I’ve heard/seen that move is pretty safe and really not much different than an elbow drop. If you watch he doesn’t land with much weight on the person, he leans back and softens the blow by falling back
@@ChunkyKong-47 I understand that. He makes contact and immediately drops off before the full weight of his body would impact. But kids trying that move on each other won't know how to do it.
@@JoeR203 that’s fair, wont I just skimmed over your comment and should have read closer. I think I would say even if a kid did try it the likelihood they’re jumping off anything tall enough to do real damage is probably pretty low. One off the bed/couch and you’ll never do it again. Also imo it might be something they kinda just figure out on their own, kids stand on each other all the time and you learn pretty quick you can’t put your full weight down
@@ChunkyKong-47 Yeah but all it takes is that one bigger, overweight kid to land on a smaller kid.
Saturday Morning BodySlam or something a long those lines is what i remember the kids show being. 2 Matches and recaps Saturday mornings. Oddly the Saturday morning show seemed like a seasonal show.
Can you a show on crash holly. I read that he passed away at your home He was one of my favorite.. would like to hear how you felt about his passing
Bronson Reed uses a DVD I believe. Shawn Spears also.
How in the world has someone not invented a realistic rubber chair for stunts?
you won`t get the sound
I don't think it would ever be realistic when you saw the chair bounce off someone's head (rubber chair) or the sound a metal chair makes
@Jeff-ge3vj
I guarantee a master prop maker could do it. I've got a few ideas myself, and I'm far from a master.
The trick would be to not make the entire chair from rubber.
You would only gimmick the parts which hit the wrestler most.
There are some plastics that are used in car parts that when used right would look close to a chair. The problem there tho would be yeah it would shatter after one use. I think the issue is making it look like it isn't a fake chair during and after the hit.
I think a softer plastic would work best
I'll show you! You'll see!
Thanks for the content.
Is ot not more realistic to raise your hands though? Granted the noise is fantastic haha
What about Psycociss doing his crazy high leg drop from the top for years ? Or Bobby Eaton with that Alabama Jam forever ? Their hips and spine had to be rocking them after a while . And talk about chair shots , how is Masato Tanaka not brain damaged or a vegetable right now ! ? I wrestled for only a couple years in the mid 2000s and still hurt lol ! I cant even imagine 20 years of doing that . Wrestlers are some of toughest people on earth , and I don't mean winning street fights type of tough ( although many could do that too) just tough mentally and the ability to absorb punishment night in and night out . Pure respect from me .
Bull Nakano had a hell of a leg drop from the top.
Undertaker always put up one hand.
Eric Young does a great death valley driver.
AEW uses the DVD a lot
I did a top rope leg drop once and guy moved (planned), the ring was like a huge cushion when I did the top rope leg drop and I didn't feel a thing sold like it hurt like hell of course, though I'm guessing the reason I didn't feel anything was because of the adrenaline.
most burtal chair shots rock and foley i quit match
either way its still shocking when chair shots are done and not in hardcore/street fight type matches
Protected chair shots are safe when you know what you're doing
Does Stevie have any stories about Superdragon? Everything that dude did looked stiff, but also it looked like he was protecting people
Not in wwe but xpw guy got violently reprimanded for the sales on dark side of the ring
The hand up totally ruins the belief in things like Brian Pillman trying to shoot on Austin on live tv or Vince blowing up.....Seriously the hand up makes sense, if someone tries to hit you with something you would protect yourself, unlike Hogan and the Usos punches
Piledrivers - no no too
"Fined for blocking a chair shot" - is he talking about ECW, the WWF or WCW?
Steve Austin said that's how he protected himself was he put his hands up and no one told him shit
RTC should have lasted longer, Stevie got nuclear heat 🥵 during the time of tweeners
Who went back and watched the Hogan Konnan chair shot after Stevie mentioned it.
I did and what the hell. Lmao. That was soo weak looking
Saturday morning slam
Vertibreaker is cool
Would you consider covering yourself when you were with RTC?
I never heard people getting fined for protecting ones self from a head shot. I know they were called pussies for blocking the shot. Watching unprotected shots now is horrifying to watch, but back in the 90s it was so integrated it was as common as locking up at the begining of a match.
They want wrestling to be wack , they wanna ban almost all the moves smh , Rollins curb stomp is iconic & he don’t actually curb stomp them smh ,
I think they will dress Jacob for two as some kind of wild man from New Guine eventually some wild man from New Guinea in the leopard or tiger stripes some wild man from New Guinea eventually, that will be his gimmick eventually 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
let the artist that pro wrestlers are be pro wrestlers let them be artists and paint however they want to paint.
Superplex of the top rope should be banned
What's with the one eye creepy thumbnail!?
love the shot at hogan exaggerating.
"Yea brother, i did 700 leg drops a year back in the 80's."
Hogan did do a lot of leg drops in the 80s.
He did. They’d do like 330 dates a year and do 2 shows. Thats 660 leg drops. Minimum!!
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Best podcast today. Plus philly boy knew to move to florida. Keep your cash bro. N now grow this shows cash to retire. Smart philly bro
Why do my comments sbout the chairs being lighter metal keep getting deleted
Stevie just explained why I was a submission wrestler. Those moves are the easiest finishers to do and you don't ever put any stress on your body or stress on your opponent's body.
In Formula 1 there is some sort of drivers union. If something gets too dangerous, they address that, the issue will be solved, there is no race, when the drivers strike. That concept never really took off in the USA. But it is not like F1 is unpopular, because of the union ruining the business. It still is very profitable. You can even have a working health care system and good economy at the same time, because healthy workers are more productive,...
It works in pretty much every developed nation, but in the USA, this is seen as communist pipedream, you'd rather have a dictatorship of wealth. The boss decides about workers rights, that is US democracy.
1:05 👁️ 👄 👁️
Coincidentally enough, on Maven's channel one of his "most painful moves to take" were his finishers (Missile Dropkick and Backstabbe)
Really in general I've never understood the various permutations of dropping a dude on your own knee. 1 Knee or even both vs Entire Body Weight is gonna hurt you way more then the other guy if its actually coming down. Nevermind the top rope counter version. Throwing a knee strike up at a guy is kind of a counter-force, but just eating the downward seems like it shold just pop a quad or something.
On July 28, 1999, Tate was left alone with Eunick, his cousin, who was being babysat by Tate's mother, Kathleen Grossett-Tate. While the children were downstairs playing, Tate's mother called to them to be quiet. Roughly 45 minutes later, Tate came upstairs to tell his mother that Tiffany was not breathing. Her legs, feet, and neck all had serious bruises; an example of the amount of force used on her was similar to bruises from that of a speeding car. Her other injuries included a fractured skull, lacerated liver, fractured rib, and swollen brain. These injuries were characterized by the prosecution as "similar to those she would have sustained by falling from a three-story building."In sentencing Tate to life imprisonment, Judge Joel T. Lazarus of Broward County Circuit Court said that "The acts of Lionel Tate were not the playful acts of a child The acts of Lionel Tate were cold, callous and indescribably cruel." After the conviction, the prosecution openly joined Tate's plea for leniency in sentencing and even offered to help in his appeal. The trial judge criticized the prosecution for compromising the integrity of the adversarial system, and said that if the prosecution felt that life imprisonment was not warranted, they should not have charged him with murder in the first place.
In January 2004, a state appeals court overturned his conviction on the basis that his mental competency had not been evaluated before trial. This opened the way for Tate to accept the same plea deal he originally turned down, and he was released on one year's house arrest and 10 years' probation.
James, you're getting kind of bloated in the face. It might be time to consider a diet.
Even Stevie talking about chair shots is soothing and calms my inner beast. No hands.
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🤔 I gotta say that Stevie’s claim about fines for going hands up for a chair shot is, as the kids say, sus AF.
rule #1. If it's not your generation, don't use their lingo.
You just end up looking lame asf, broski 😜
The curb stomp on Bobby Lashley by Seth on mlk day was so tone deaf
Lol 😂 hes broke
I see you are trying to do what Maven did.
wrestling is soft as babyshit now. i cant even watch matches these days theyre so cringe
Tell me you don't watch AEW without telling me you don't watch AEW 😅
@@Bubba__Sawyer Look in any thesaurus and AEW is a synonym for cringe.
Thank you stevie for correcting james, and defending Hulk Hogan/the buisness. Come on james.... I think the Brits are too judgmental of Hulk Hogan and don't show enough respect for his accomplishments , regardless of how offended you mostly Caucasian people are offended by the n-word, if you look at his life and career objectively, he really meant no harm, and put a lot of positivity out into the world, that is still reverberating if Hulk Hogan didn't exist British people would just be watching a reboot of World of Sport!!! I still love you James, it's between you and Oliver who gets the most Pro leve,l sounding hosting job, also James I think you're the only podcaster I've seen that uses microphones from a real company. Well done
You use the n-word, too? 🤔
Great episode. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
No one got fined for that. Why you telling fairytales Steve?
Stevie sold out. 👁️ 🫣
Poor man’s Maven
That’s a legitimately ridiculous comment. The content they make is so COMPLETELY different why would you even compare them?
I remember people always putting their hands up for chair shots lmao 🤣