The thing I love about Shane's performance style is that he constantly seems like he's checking in with the audience to make sure they are having as much fun as he is, and he'll actually comment on it in the moment. It's so different than most comedians who just power through whatever prepared stuff they have. Shane comes off feeling more like a buddy you're hanging out with who wants to make sure you're laughing just as hard as he is, and that's super endearing.
I watched his SNL monologue live with a handful of people that had never seen him. A took them a second to get him, but they were cracking up, especially at his borderline awkward interactions with the audience
Totally agree, he really connects with the audience. Joe List is another guy that excels at doing this, he has jokes that don’t really hit even in his specials, but he calls out the silence and gets the laugh and it makes the bit even better when he gets a little fake frustrated.
It gives him a warmness that is so endearing! Especially when it's in stark contrast to most ever other comic that wants to play 'cool' to keep their _authority_ as a person deserving of the mic and stage.
@@michaelnelson300He didn’t, and both the video creator and OP of this comment are just assuming it was a pun, when it clearly wasn’t. “That’s rough” is an extremely common phrase in American English.
i think the lame puns make it feel even more like conversation with a friend, he kind of leans into the hackiness, it's almost like you can tell he says them ironically.
Yeah I find him calling everything Gay funny. Not cause I think it’s edgy, I think it’s because I find it so clearly ridiculous in an ironic way. Feels like OP is more offended by it to see it as irony
Yeah ngl I was enjoying the video until the loui ck part and that part at the end like when ur making a comedy video you shouldn’t suddenly pause and get all somber just to pick up the funny man voice again in 15 seconds he’s doing exactly what he criticized the other comedians of. I agree with the other guy I think he’s just offended and trying to make a critical point based off all that. Everything he said before was right and him calling stuff gay only supports that it’s not lazy that’s his personal. Like you said it feel like your talking to a broski at a bar but guess what that’s how broskis at bars talk.
@@joewarhammer 18:51 As a woman, this "line in the sand" against Louis C.K. seems preformative, ridiculous. and misguided. Clearly, anyone who's THAT outraged must not have a clear understanding of all the elements at play that kept CK out of work WAY too long. If he DID a crime, he's done the time- let it go. He's learned his lesson, So glad he's back.
Exactly, the objective is to get a laugh. And when you can tell someone is trying it ruins the magic. I’d say the closest comedian to Gillis is bill burr, both on and off the stage he feels like the same guy. And what’s so fun about it is the improv feel that they give off. Whether bill is shitting on someone in a funny way or Gillis is talking about how much of a he was a loser in his early years
Duuuude, your wrong, the fact that Gillis said dogs with night goggles and a robot were the ones that took Osama out was the joke. “The literal paw patrol” was a tag line. Plus the joke was insanely hilarious.
@@cpdbutler 18:51 As a woman, this "line in the sand" against Louis C.K. seems preformative, ridiculous. and misguided. Clearly, anyone who's THAT outraged must not have a clear understanding of all the elements at play that kept CK out of work WAY too long. If he DID a crime, he's done the time- let it go. He's learned his lesson, So glad he's back.
@@icu3869 misguided? why? you just don't agree. he did shitty stuff, and he tried to lie about it. my opinion of him has changed since finding out about that. him losing work because of it, or for how long, is irrelevant to that. "as a woman" lol
Right? Here I was thinking I was enjoying a great video, about a great guy, expertly created and edited by a great man, and then it turns out it was a lady this whole time. It's like Bruce Gender all over again.
@@noahsewell9615 you said that, not me. However, Louis and Weinstein committed nearly the same crime, on differing scales. Guy above me explains it best. If you can’t wrap your head around his comment you’re a creep
The "lazy" stuff is really stuff he put in there for the Dawgs. The MSSP crowd is out here like "no you did not put that stupid ass pun from the pod in there!" Remembering the guys that kept you floating when the world was trying to sink you isn't lazy IMO even if objectively in a vacuum it may seem like it.
Luis C.K. was never charged with any misconduct. There were no legal preceedings and only a one-sided story ever came out about it until Luis' special when he addressed it. Luis is by far the best stand up of our generation. Shane may be able to surpass him, but for now Luis is King
A one sided story from 5 different women. *womp womp* The guy is one of the greatest comics ever but a simple google search can help you get your facts straight broski
@@sirespThat’s not what “one-sided story” means. You can have five one-sided stories. That’s not a contradiction. One-sided just means two people were involved in something and you’ve only heard the account of one of those two people. That can happen five times. Womp womp yourself.
@@siresp And every single of of those women said it was consensual - he asked permission first and even asked again to be sure. He did everything by the book, exactly how we've been repeatedly told we're supposed to do it. The 'power imbalance' thing is a post-hoc absurdity that makes no sense, because this adds another requirement - that you can only ever sleep with someone who has the same 'power' as you do, because people with less 'power' have no agency or free will, which is ridiculous.
@@paulw5039 Exactly. “Power” differentials exist everywhere, all the time. The important point is whether a consenting adult agrees to the request or is forced into it against their will. If a grown adult decides to do something for a more “powerful” person in the hopes that it will net them something in return, that is a perfectly valid decision that they are making as a grown adult of sound mind. The fact that people may find it distasteful to make the request in the first place does not in itself make the request, or the fulfillment of the request, illegal or immoral.
It’s really unfortunate that you don’t want to talk about Louis. I can understand why you feel that way towards him, and I’m sure you’ve actually read what happened, but I genuinely find his apology to be honest. He didn’t have ill intent, and what he did was not even close to being so reprehensible that you shouldn’t be able to enjoy or talk about his work. I love your videos, and it’s incredibly unfortunate that you most likely won’t be talking about Louis anytime soon, especially since he’s undoubtedly my favorite.
Asking for sexual favors when the power dynamic is such that the 2 women were asking Louis for help trying to produce a script is not a great look but at least he asked for permission. However, that is not where it ended, he then threatened to end their careers if they ever talked about what happened, that is the behavior of an abuser. Maybe I am remembering incorrectly but that is my recollection of the incident.
Louis lost millions because he dared ask consent to coworkers and masturbated on the phone. He is a freak, but an abuser he is not. Dont go with the weird lies that happened after the accusation and go read the accusation yourself -.- Louis deserved to be criticized for what he did. It wasn't good, but he is no monster and paid his due in my book. Let the man be a great comic.
@@a2thewhy05 Yes, those he asked for concent first. They said yes. They might have felt pressure, but he wasn't just whipping his dick out. He was never blocking the door. Go read the accusations, they said themselves all of that. They said they giggle while it happened and LATER thought it was fucked up. In the moment they didnt felt in danger.
@@w_stew8912 they weren't in a position where they could freely say no and know there would be no repercussions. The power imbalance makes their consent questionable.
@@SnowCrashed1 at the time he wasn't that powerful at all. He was a comedy writer with more experience than them, but he wasn't the Louis that had an insanely popular show on fx and was doing the garden regularly.
My impression of Shane is the ultimate bro. He comes off as the guy you would want to have some drinks with because he makes the crew laugh. He's the dude in the locker room cracking up the team before the coach rips you to shreds. His chemistry with Matt (who I kinda think has genius level IQ) is admirable for male friendships. He makes me laugh my ass off. I'm really happy he's successful.
If I'm not mistaken, I've heard Gillis on a podcast say that the ' I can see everyone not enjoying it' was part of the bit. For reference, he was talking about the news articles written about him and how they claimed he even knew he was bombing, and used that moment for reference.
yeah matt had a solo podcast after the snl ep and said that him saying that people were unhappy was his schtick. It's kind of obvious when you've watched enough of him.
But but "ABUSE" lol Good God. This BS putting him even remotely near the level of Weinstein is insane. Absolute knobs. He messed up... a little. Barely. I'm more annoyed Louis equated orange man with mustache man, which is just as insane. But the man is talented and only slightly crappy--like all of us(crappy, not talented).
@@MonstyliciousWell Trump isn’t genocidal like Hitler was but Trump is already an attempted (and failed) authoritarian. The comparison isn’t crazy. Maybe Mussolini is a more fair comparison though.
You know he was literally president for 4 years right? During a period of unprecedented peace and prosperity... Right? Like this isn't "in theory" ... This happened. He was already president. Stop watching CNN, go outside, and start thinking for yourself. Stop parroting talking points of millionaire politicians and media talking heads who are getting rich on you just mindlessly repeating whatever they're saying
The way Shane performs is NOT perfect, but that's part of the appeal. The natural, genuine nature of his speech and delivery is refreshing. It definitely is like hanging out with a friend in a way instead of seeing someone play a character, which I really enjoy. Very well done. Subbed.
Seems weird to give such a forced explanation about why you're talking about one of the greatest living comedians who owned what he did which wasn't nearly as bad as it was painted to be at the time. He seems like an example of how to take the criticism and find a pathway to redemption.
@@Walrus286well I’d say he definitely shoulda thought how much control and pressure he had / could give off as the “boss” but he acknowledged that and that’s where it should’ve ended for me like it was just a clear mistake and miscommunication problem to apologize for if that
What abuse, how did Louie ck. Even get in trouble for asking for consent and not even touching the girls. There was no stories of any kind of consequences for saying no
This just isn't true! His manager threatened two of the women's careers for talking about it, and one of them had just got a big break working on The Chris Rock Show where he had the power to fire her. How did all of you get so sure about something you never bothered to look into? Just, unquestioning devotion to your hero, believing whatever he or his friends said? I used to love Louie too, then I learned the facts and realized, he let power and fame mess him up, and he hurt people.
@@liferadous Goodman and wolov had their big break at aspen comedy festival, it was after that they went to his hotel and he asked to masturbate in front of them and they said yes. They said they worried if they talked about it too openly it could get back to his manager who had the power to damage their careers, not that he ever made any. Both of them said no actual threat was ever made. The Chris rock show employee was anonymous, she also gave consent. Never said she was threatened. Women who said that he asked them and they said no… or said “you have a daughter and a wife! No im Not ok with you jerking off in front of me!” There not even an allegation of there being any consequences for saying no. One told the producers Cortney cox and “Dewey Riley” about what happened Who were rightfully on her side …. Why don’t you tell me how that one played out since you are so well read on the subject. I know the article you basing your argument off and you even got that wrong. Read more that one article before you tell people they need to look deeper. I understand that being a person with the stature and power of Louis ck Should not even request that kind of thing from someone working below him on the same production. It’s a mistake that he paid consequences for, it affected his career not theirs., it’s not a crime. Plus he learned his lesson and started jerking off in front of established female comedians that laughed and roasted his ass while he did it
well put together video, but the stance on louis ck is a weird one. he got busted being slightly more awkward than being busted by your mum for cranking one out, and dabbling in dissecting comedy while moral grandstanding over this shit is a cognitive dissonance that kind of undermines everything else you say - if that's what you're walking away with over the louis 'scandal', then it's fair to assume your critical eye may not be operating to spec.
Lol at someone who never learned the actual facts of the situation talking about someone else's lack of a critical eye. No, he wasn't just awkward. He didn't just have a weird kink. He didn't always ask permission. He was a predator who only got away with his behavior because he was powerful. If you or I or a fucking Mickey D's manager 'asked' a subordinate to watch him jerk off (as Louie did on-set at the Chris Rock show) he'd be fucking fired and it'd be in the paper and no one would feel sorry for him. If you started jerking it to a woman you just met over the phone (no, she wasn't asked) you might get arrested. Talk after you've read or watched something about it from journalists instead of just the man you are blindly hero-worshipping and his friends and fans. Right now you are being a cog in a massive misinformation campaign orchestrated by a millionaire to salvage his rep.
Shane saying things like "i don't know about this next joke" or saying "look i don't have any material that can be on tv" it's all written. sorry if im ruining the sauce for some of you but Shane being able to make things feel so improvised proves how good of a writer he is, like when he's asking the crowd to suggest different army's then saying ways they'd be more intimidating if they were gay. all of its written i guarantee you any army you could think of yelling out shane would of had a joke written about them, and oh whats that you yelled out one he missed? He had a joke for that situation to. Shanes a great writer thats how he makes this stuff feel like it does on stage. he's written the jokes in the way that shows us how his brain thinks. its not just Shane's talent, or shanes delivery that makes him great its Shanes writing.
@@_Xds_ just spent all day at blue whale comedy festival it's 3 AM and I just ate at waffle House with Casey Rocket. Im literally a stand up comedian so yeah I guess you could say I'm an expert.
Saw Shanes live before the special was released and I was surprised to realize that it was obviously the same act, but exactly, to a tea… which means nothing was unintentional, it was made to seem like it was but truly so tight of an act, movement, punchlines, cadence, everything.
This whole video is a really fun and insightful analysis. Instant sub, I am definitely going to need to hear more of this mans insights on the comedy world. 15:57 killed me
All throughout highschool and well into adulthood, I noticed people becoming obsessed things weren't that great just because they're popular. Shane Gillis is one of those things
I enjoy how you articulate and gove shape to ideas that floatnhalf-formed through my head. The specificity helps so much I also appreciate you taking the time to make quality stuff instead of flooding timeline!
Mate... I'm so glad you brought it up, I love Santino's energy and timing during bad friends and I was left speechless when I watched his last half an hour special... painfully unfunny I couldn't believe it was the same guy
santino is one of those dudes that i consider funny but would NEVER watch anything recorded or "material" from them. There's a few others that fall into the same category. It's really not even a slight towards him, i mean it in the best way. Being spur of the moment/off the cuff type funny is great, situational humor and just having the wit to be funny in conversation and on the spot. He cracks me up on Bad Friends, but yeh, not a "prepared material" guy.
He's definitely influenced by norm to some extent. He also does that thing norm did where he pretends to be a really simple dumb guy when he's secretly much more intelligent. I also love that norm reached out when he was being canceled and fired from snl with a private heartfelt message of support and encouragement.
This is an incredibly good analysis. Bravo. Your take on CK is lame, but your call obviously. Seriously good video - a huge amount of work obviously went into this
Gillis, Norman, Soder, Oakerson, and Von are leaders and pioneers in a new era of comedy: bro comedy. They make everyone feel like they're one of the bros just hanging out. It's quite literally inclusive comedy. What a time we're in.
That's a lot of words to say he's a average funny dude that found his niche in being relatable to his audience by being himself. Which is why hes the fuckn man!
The inside joke thing is so true, being Australian i knew the kangaroo video so i laughed knowing what i was laughing about but the monkey bars video i had never seen and i laughed anyway because of how he told it i felt like id seen it lol
So was Bill Cosby, incredibly skilled and influential, but you don't see people replaying his shit all the time, because they don't wanna look at his stupid face after what he's done. (And no, what Louie did isn't as bad as Cosby. Most shitty things people do aren't as bad as Cosby. That does not make it okay or no big deal.)
Louis asked grown women if they would consent to him having a shuffle - the adult women, who had already agreed to go back to Louis' room, all said yes. The adult women hoped this would advance their career - something Louis never said or implied. Since Louis was known for doing this since the turn of the century, when he had very, very little 'Star Power' it would be unfair to suggest Louis was abusing his position. He is simply an adult man who had a kink, who always asked for consent - and only asked adult women.
This just isn't true. Only two women agreed to meet him in his hotel room, together, believing it was for professional purposes. Two women were approached at their workplaces, where he was powerful. (If you go to your subordinate at work and ask if you can jack off in front of them, you will be fired, with good reason.) One got ambushed over the phone. Those are just the five originally brought up in the New York Times expose. NONE said they agreed because they thought it was a quid pro quo for their careers. More have come out since and shared in the documentary. You are repeating LIES manufactured as part of an expensive PR firm's spin package for a millionaire who does not care about you. You're unjustly slandering these women who got violated by their hero and spent years being too scared to say anything. I used to like Louie, too. I changed my mind based on new evidence. Are you a person who pays attention to facts and evidence? Because you're not acting like one right now.
@@liferadous Violated by their hero - there you go comparing women to children. He asked - they consented. If women want equality, then they should live by the same rules as men. Not a single man would complain if a woman asked if she could rub one out in front of them. Stop taking away their agency. Stop treating them like infants.
This was a phenomenal analysis. I haven't come across your videos, but I thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated this. Well done! Keep it up, I hope everyone realizes this treasure of a channel is here!
An excellent analysis video & i love all the Americans getting offended in the comments because people don't like Louis CK 😂 . I'm not really a fan of Gillis (he's no Stewart Lee) but i do like your break down analysis.
This is one of the best comedy analysis videos I’ve seen in a while. I’ve definitely been turned off by stand off since the death of King Norm. Feels like stand up has been a horrifying jumble of simply unfunny people, self-congratulatory douchebags, and pseudo-intellectuals who think they can revolutionize the concept. Shane is certainly a breath of fresh air and this video does a great job of explaining his comedy. Really hope he does another Netflix special.
I was born in 87, Dave is my goat. But Shane is 100% leader of the new school. Anyone that just knows Shane from stand up please youtube mssp. Matt and shane bounce off eachother so well its hilarious
I really appreciate this vid. Your insight and perspective gives, honesty. The “Synonym-Comedy” comment is truly insightful and logical. Puts all of these people in on a spectrum. I was always thinking to myself when listening or watching comedians that use the synonym tactics, “this is not that funny” but I couldn’t put my finger on the reason behind my criticism. I always thought that I was just to jaded and know I can pinpoint the reason why I’m not , fall on the floor laughing like the audience is. I imagine it’s hard to catch next to tons of people laughing uncontrollably. Thanks again
lmao imagine saying Louie "abused" women with a straight face. He asked if he could wack it in front of them and they all said yes, and then took the opportunity to play the victim or get a payday. That's why it's funny in his bits. When he says, 'make sure you say, ARE YOU SURE'. To call that abuse is clown tier to the max.
I always thought it was abuse of his power over much less known comedians than him. That they might have thought he wouldn't keep booking them if they didn't let him do it. But yeah, its wasnt NEARLY as bad as the media made it sound. He never physically made them sit there and watch. Weird? Yeah, but its not like he is Cosby. Or maybe he never did those things and he set it all up because he was sick of the mega fame???
It's definitely abuse of power and I understand that the victims feel used. However I don't think that was intentional on his part, he just enjoy people watching, he asked and I don't think he thought about it too much
@@AvastarBin just because it has the word "abuse" in it, doesn't mean being an abuser and abusing your power are remotely similar. An abuser always has a victim, someone who is abusing their power does not always have victims, and in most cases isn't even hurting or involving another party.
@@SneakyG59 I'm confused at your comment and what you're trying to achieve here. Someone that's abusing his power over someone else definitely HAS victims : the ones that he has power over. And knowingly or not, Louis ck abused his power over some people and those people were victims of his abuse.
@@AvastarBin apologies, i meant to reply just as a normal comment, or reply to someone else, because the comment/context i replied to i can't find now. For some reason i @'d you.
Shane is undeniably funny. His stand up, his podcasts, his youtube skits and his tv show. His "that's gay" catch phrase, though it is politically incorrect and harsh on a minority, his crowds are mainly men and they have all grown up with that word scaring them and threatening their status in their peer groups. it is loaded with discomfort, and discomfort is where comedians play.
hello shane reading the comments
He can’t read
I hope he watches this alll the way to the end
Come to Canada
I mean Brazil
What up Dawg!
Him talking down on Ck made Shane leave actually
Shane is one of the only comedians that can make just calling something gay actually funny
It's the only part of his act that feels really lazy and childish. He's so much better than doing what 10 year olds do.
CumTown energy
@fraggle200 well that's the point of it I suppose
@@fraggle200that’s what it’s supposed to be. Just because you don’t get it doesn’t mean it isn’t funny
@@mysticdustz7115 i'd get that if it was in just 1 special but it's a recurring thing. It's boring now.
The thing I love about Shane's performance style is that he constantly seems like he's checking in with the audience to make sure they are having as much fun as he is, and he'll actually comment on it in the moment. It's so different than most comedians who just power through whatever prepared stuff they have. Shane comes off feeling more like a buddy you're hanging out with who wants to make sure you're laughing just as hard as he is, and that's super endearing.
🎉absolutely 🎉😂😊
I watched his SNL monologue live with a handful of people that had never seen him. A took them a second to get him, but they were cracking up, especially at his borderline awkward interactions with the audience
Totally agree, he really connects with the audience. Joe List is another guy that excels at doing this, he has jokes that don’t really hit even in his specials, but he calls out the silence and gets the laugh and it makes the bit even better when he gets a little fake frustrated.
It gives him a warmness that is so endearing! Especially when it's in stark contrast to most ever other comic that wants to play 'cool' to keep their _authority_ as a person deserving of the mic and stage.
Amen! Preach!
if you didn't laugh at “that's ruff” or his reaction to it,
you don't have a soul.
I’ve seen it a couple times and I still don’t know if he did it on purpose or not
@@michaelnelson300He didn’t, and both the video creator and OP of this comment are just assuming it was a pun, when it clearly wasn’t. “That’s rough” is an extremely common phrase in American English.
did you notice how he ends this video on one
29:54
i think the lame puns make it feel even more like conversation with a friend, he kind of leans into the hackiness, it's almost like you can tell he says them ironically.
Yeah I find him calling everything Gay funny. Not cause I think it’s edgy, I think it’s because I find it so clearly ridiculous in an ironic way. Feels like OP is more offended by it to see it as irony
Yeah ngl I was enjoying the video until the loui ck part and that part at the end like when ur making a comedy video you shouldn’t suddenly pause and get all somber just to pick up the funny man voice again in 15 seconds he’s doing exactly what he criticized the other comedians of. I agree with the other guy I think he’s just offended and trying to make a critical point based off all that. Everything he said before was right and him calling stuff gay only supports that it’s not lazy that’s his personal. Like you said it feel like your talking to a broski at a bar but guess what that’s how broskis at bars talk.
@@joewarhammer 18:51 As a woman, this "line in the sand" against Louis C.K. seems preformative, ridiculous. and misguided. Clearly, anyone who's THAT outraged must not have a clear understanding of all the elements at play that kept CK out of work WAY too long. If he DID a crime, he's done the time- let it go. He's learned his lesson, So glad he's back.
dude are you autistic
Shane, if you stop cutting corners and hold yourself to a higher standard, some dude in his bedroom will consider you a great comedian.
Best comment on the video
Exactly, the objective is to get a laugh. And when you can tell someone is trying it ruins the magic.
I’d say the closest comedian to Gillis is bill burr, both on and off the stage he feels like the same guy. And what’s so fun about it is the improv feel that they give off. Whether bill is shitting on someone in a funny way or Gillis is talking about how much of a he was a loser in his early years
A lot of people already do myself included
Exactly, this guy is the definition of an armchair comedian
Analysing comedy has become mainstream and its pathetic
We all have that one friend that's made us laugh more than any comic. Gillis has found a way to turn that type of humor into stand-up form.
thats always the best humor
Excatly what I thought! Hes just a relly likable dude.
Damn I never looked at it like that but I couldn't agree with you more.
Duuuude, your wrong, the fact that Gillis said dogs with night goggles and a robot were the ones that took Osama out was the joke. “The literal paw patrol” was a tag line.
Plus the joke was insanely hilarious.
Ya this guy is off his rocker.
You’re*
The paw patrol bit is my favorite of his jokes 😂😂😂❤❤
Yeah what this guy was hating on Gillis for is what makes him hilarious.
summary of this video:
its like hes just some guy telling jokes at a bar, rather than some super-polished comedian (x100)
Plus some brownie points for s#itting on louis
@@rishimish8917He's gotta maintain his UK Social Score.
@@rishimish8917 or it's just his honest opinion of CK. many people dislike sexual harassment fyi
@@cpdbutler 18:51 As a woman, this "line in the sand" against Louis C.K. seems preformative, ridiculous. and misguided. Clearly, anyone who's THAT outraged must not have a clear understanding of all the elements at play that kept CK out of work WAY too long. If he DID a crime, he's done the time- let it go. He's learned his lesson, So glad he's back.
@@icu3869 misguided? why? you just don't agree. he did shitty stuff, and he tried to lie about it. my opinion of him has changed since finding out about that. him losing work because of it, or for how long, is irrelevant to that. "as a woman" lol
I understand Louis CK is one of your heroes, but that’s your “line in the sand”? To quote Shane Gillis, “Don’t be gay”
Loved the Ringo impression
Feigning contrition so that you can pretend to be taking some kind of heroic moral stand, over something that didn't even happen, is gay.
That made me mad. I stopped watching after he said that.
@@Kathy_1991same LMAO
Great video! I walked in here, I said wow, what a great video
@@zack2thafuture my opponent is gay!
This video is really gay
Instructions unclear. Vid is now in my anus.
comedy for autists
Hella
Hmm
Gay 🤤
Anyone who fast forwards through Louis CK is a dingus
This is the comment I was gonna wrote. What a loser
Anyone who fast forwards through with their dingus is Louis CK
@joseraimi this is an amazing comment
@@joseraimiclever
@joseraimi niceeeee. But he's right. Like yeah he fucked up. He got a pretty good punishment I'd say
The Louis C.K. disclaimer derailed the vibe of the entire video.
Exactly
Spot on
100%
Right? Here I was thinking I was enjoying a great video, about a great guy, expertly created and edited by a great man, and then it turns out it was a lady this whole time. It's like Bruce Gender all over again.
Fr and all the shit about the puns....this dudes a wanker
Dude. Chill out on Louie. He has a kink, he asked for permission, the ladies agreed. It happened years ago and he paid a price. Louis CK is fine.
Harvey Weinstein girls agreed too
I don’t think you understand the situation
Edit: we got some groipers in this comment chain
You don't see the cavernous difference between louis ck and harvey weinstein?@unitedleagueofgamers3633
@unitedleagueofgamers3633 yes because Louise and Harvey are definitely on the same level
Abuse of a heavily imbalanced power dynamic is still very strange behavior man
@@noahsewell9615 you said that, not me. However, Louis and Weinstein committed nearly the same crime, on differing scales.
Guy above me explains it best. If you can’t wrap your head around his comment you’re a creep
33 min long video on Shane Gillis
Shane Gillis: Louis CK is my inspiration
“Louis CK is where I draw the line”
all hail King Louie
Louis CK is an all time great. No wonder Shane is so funny.
The "lazy" stuff is really stuff he put in there for the Dawgs.
The MSSP crowd is out here like "no you did not put that stupid ass pun from the pod in there!"
Remembering the guys that kept you floating when the world was trying to sink you isn't lazy IMO even if objectively in a vacuum it may seem like it.
This guy is obviously not a dawg and the fact that he thinks Shane should modify his stand up to fit his own taste in comedy proves it even further
Luis C.K. was never charged with any misconduct. There were no legal preceedings and only a one-sided story ever came out about it until Luis' special when he addressed it.
Luis is by far the best stand up of our generation. Shane may be able to surpass him, but for now Luis is King
A one sided story from 5 different women. *womp womp* The guy is one of the greatest comics ever but a simple google search can help you get your facts straight broski
@@sirespThat’s not what “one-sided story” means. You can have five one-sided stories. That’s not a contradiction. One-sided just means two people were involved in something and you’ve only heard the account of one of those two people. That can happen five times. Womp womp yourself.
@@siresp And every single of of those women said it was consensual - he asked permission first and even asked again to be sure. He did everything by the book, exactly how we've been repeatedly told we're supposed to do it. The 'power imbalance' thing is a post-hoc absurdity that makes no sense, because this adds another requirement - that you can only ever sleep with someone who has the same 'power' as you do, because people with less 'power' have no agency or free will, which is ridiculous.
Someone’s upset
@@paulw5039 Exactly. “Power” differentials exist everywhere, all the time. The important point is whether a consenting adult agrees to the request or is forced into it against their will. If a grown adult decides to do something for a more “powerful” person in the hopes that it will net them something in return, that is a perfectly valid decision that they are making as a grown adult of sound mind. The fact that people may find it distasteful to make the request in the first place does not in itself make the request, or the fulfillment of the request, illegal or immoral.
It’s really unfortunate that you don’t want to talk about Louis. I can understand why you feel that way towards him, and I’m sure you’ve actually read what happened, but I genuinely find his apology to be honest. He didn’t have ill intent, and what he did was not even close to being so reprehensible that you shouldn’t be able to enjoy or talk about his work. I love your videos, and it’s incredibly unfortunate that you most likely won’t be talking about Louis anytime soon, especially since he’s undoubtedly my favorite.
Yes. He’s one of the rock solid comedians
Was a pretty good video until the Louise CK section. Virtue Signalling.
Didn’t get to this part yet. What do I need to skip? Louis #1
SEVEN MINUTES jfc
Asking for sexual favors when the power dynamic is such that the 2 women were asking Louis for help trying to produce a script is not a great look but at least he asked for permission. However, that is not where it ended, he then threatened to end their careers if they ever talked about what happened, that is the behavior of an abuser. Maybe I am remembering incorrectly but that is my recollection of the incident.
Wow! Great analysis❤
But Louis Ck is not that bad of a guy imo ... no need for that "disclaimer"
I saved this because i thought it was a new youtube special he was releasing. I was confused by the intro
me too, so dissapointed right now.
Why would he release a special on RUclips at the level he’s at now
Yup same
- The RTards Shane Constantly Jokes About
yeah this sucks.
Louis lost millions because he dared ask consent to coworkers and masturbated on the phone. He is a freak, but an abuser he is not. Dont go with the weird lies that happened after the accusation and go read the accusation yourself -.-
Louis deserved to be criticized for what he did. It wasn't good, but he is no monster and paid his due in my book. Let the man be a great comic.
Wasn't on the phone . It was in front of them in his room
@@a2thewhy05 Yes, those he asked for concent first. They said yes. They might have felt pressure, but he wasn't just whipping his dick out. He was never blocking the door. Go read the accusations, they said themselves all of that. They said they giggle while it happened and LATER thought it was fucked up. In the moment they didnt felt in danger.
@@a2thewhy05he still asked for permission. It’s a kink. A weird kink but he paid his dues for it.
@@w_stew8912 they weren't in a position where they could freely say no and know there would be no repercussions. The power imbalance makes their consent questionable.
@@SnowCrashed1 at the time he wasn't that powerful at all. He was a comedy writer with more experience than them, but he wasn't the Louis that had an insanely popular show on fx and was doing the garden regularly.
Breaks my heart see a fan of comedy "canceling" CK.
Fully,
He’s not a fan of comedy. He is just a garbage leech with zero original thought. He is a sjw more then a fan of comedy
Amen
I struggle to throw him into the pile of real bastards but he's definitely lost a lot of respect for the way he handled the situation.
@@Arnogorter He never broke the law and I'm not looking for new friends. Louis Ck is a comedy genius and he makes me lough, that's his only purpose.
My impression of Shane is the ultimate bro. He comes off as the guy you would want to have some drinks with because he makes the crew laugh. He's the dude in the locker room cracking up the team before the coach rips you to shreds. His chemistry with Matt (who I kinda think has genius level IQ) is admirable for male friendships. He makes me laugh my ass off. I'm really happy he's successful.
Ending a video on a same line that you criticized earlier, is ruff.
shane gillis singlehandedly saving bud light from oblivion
If I'm not mistaken, I've heard Gillis on a podcast say that the ' I can see everyone not enjoying it' was part of the bit.
For reference, he was talking about the news articles written about him and how they claimed he even knew he was bombing, and used that moment for reference.
yeah matt had a solo podcast after the snl ep and said that him saying that people were unhappy was his schtick. It's kind of obvious when you've watched enough of him.
33 minutes of some British guy explaining Shane Gillis to us. Just what the world needs...
Louis is king
This comedy breakdown was so brilliant it made me love Shane and miss Norm even more.....bravo!
Your line in the sand is Louis CK? 🙄
But but "ABUSE" lol
Good God. This BS putting him even remotely near the level of Weinstein is insane. Absolute knobs.
He messed up... a little. Barely. I'm more annoyed Louis equated orange man with mustache man, which is just as insane. But the man is talented and only slightly crappy--like all of us(crappy, not talented).
@@Monstylicioustfw you get permission to do something and then women change their mind after the fact
@@MonstyliciousWell Trump isn’t genocidal like Hitler was but Trump is already an attempted (and failed) authoritarian. The comparison isn’t crazy. Maybe Mussolini is a more fair comparison though.
@@motorhead48067when did he attempt to be an authoritarian leader?
You know he was literally president for 4 years right? During a period of unprecedented peace and prosperity... Right? Like this isn't "in theory" ... This happened. He was already president.
Stop watching CNN, go outside, and start thinking for yourself. Stop parroting talking points of millionaire politicians and media talking heads who are getting rich on you just mindlessly repeating whatever they're saying
The puns are so hilarious. Nothing wrong with a little momentary low effort humor
This gay around 29:00.
The way Shane performs is NOT perfect, but that's part of the appeal. The natural, genuine nature of his speech and delivery is refreshing. It definitely is like hanging out with a friend in a way instead of seeing someone play a character, which I really enjoy. Very well done. Subbed.
Seems weird to give such a forced explanation about why you're talking about one of the greatest living comedians who owned what he did which wasn't nearly as bad as it was painted to be at the time. He seems like an example of how to take the criticism and find a pathway to redemption.
King Louie 2024
He did absolutely nothing wrong. He asked, and other consenting adults said yes.
@@Walrus286well I’d say he definitely shoulda thought how much control and pressure he had / could give off as the “boss” but he acknowledged that and that’s where it should’ve ended for me like it was just a clear mistake and miscommunication problem to apologize for if that
bruh comon u know gillis surrounds himself with rebulican racist anti woke assholes
Also he literally did nothing wrong.
What abuse, how did Louie ck. Even get in trouble for asking for consent and not even touching the girls. There was no stories of any kind of consequences for saying no
This just isn't true! His manager threatened two of the women's careers for talking about it, and one of them had just got a big break working on The Chris Rock Show where he had the power to fire her. How did all of you get so sure about something you never bothered to look into? Just, unquestioning devotion to your hero, believing whatever he or his friends said? I used to love Louie too, then I learned the facts and realized, he let power and fame mess him up, and he hurt people.
@@liferadous Goodman and wolov had their big break at aspen comedy festival, it was after that they went to his hotel and he asked to masturbate in front of them and they said yes. They said they worried if they talked about it too openly it could get back to his manager who had the power to damage their careers, not that he ever made any. Both of them said no actual threat was ever made. The Chris rock show employee was anonymous, she also gave consent. Never said she was threatened. Women who said that he asked them and they said no… or said “you have a daughter and a wife! No im
Not ok with you jerking off in front of me!” There not even an allegation of there being any consequences for saying no. One told the producers Cortney cox and “Dewey Riley” about what happened Who were rightfully on her side …. Why don’t you tell me how that one played out since you are so well read on the subject. I know the article you basing your argument off and you even got that wrong. Read more that one article before you tell people they need to look deeper. I understand that being a person with the stature and power of Louis ck Should not even request that kind of thing from someone working below him on the same production. It’s a mistake that he paid consequences for, it affected his career not theirs., it’s not a crime. Plus he learned his lesson and started jerking off in front of established female comedians that laughed and roasted his ass while he did it
well put together video, but the stance on louis ck is a weird one. he got busted being slightly more awkward than being busted by your mum for cranking one out, and dabbling in dissecting comedy while moral grandstanding over this shit is a cognitive dissonance that kind of undermines everything else you say - if that's what you're walking away with over the louis 'scandal', then it's fair to assume your critical eye may not be operating to spec.
Lol at someone who never learned the actual facts of the situation talking about someone else's lack of a critical eye. No, he wasn't just awkward. He didn't just have a weird kink. He didn't always ask permission. He was a predator who only got away with his behavior because he was powerful. If you or I or a fucking Mickey D's manager 'asked' a subordinate to watch him jerk off (as Louie did on-set at the Chris Rock show) he'd be fucking fired and it'd be in the paper and no one would feel sorry for him. If you started jerking it to a woman you just met over the phone (no, she wasn't asked) you might get arrested. Talk after you've read or watched something about it from journalists instead of just the man you are blindly hero-worshipping and his friends and fans. Right now you are being a cog in a massive misinformation campaign orchestrated by a millionaire to salvage his rep.
I like the simplicity of calling something gay. Maybe I won’t in 10 years. But that shit is funny.
I too think it's time to forgive Louis
No
@@thelordkk512I can see it clearly now.. all ppl with anime pfp are cunts.. ez
Most people already have.
@@thelordkk512 Judge not lest ye cast he fist stone.
there's nothing to forgive. he didn't do anything wrong.
Shane saying things like "i don't know about this next joke" or saying "look i don't have any material that can be on tv" it's all written. sorry if im ruining the sauce for some of you but Shane being able to make things feel so improvised proves how good of a writer he is, like when he's asking the crowd to suggest different army's then saying ways they'd be more intimidating if they were gay. all of its written i guarantee you any army you could think of yelling out shane would of had a joke written about them, and oh whats that you yelled out one he missed? He had a joke for that situation to. Shanes a great writer thats how he makes this stuff feel like it does on stage. he's written the jokes in the way that shows us how his brain thinks. its not just Shane's talent, or shanes delivery that makes him great its Shanes writing.
And ur the expert and know for certain whether or not it was improvised beacuse ?? 😂 🤡
@@_Xds_ just spent all day at blue whale comedy festival it's 3 AM and I just ate at waffle House with Casey Rocket. Im literally a stand up comedian so yeah I guess you could say I'm an expert.
Saw Shanes live before the special was released and I was surprised to realize that it was obviously the same act, but exactly, to a tea… which means nothing was unintentional, it was made to seem like it was but truly so tight of an act, movement, punchlines, cadence, everything.
30:10 "that's ruff" is very funny idc what anyone says
He’s one of the bros. That’s the best way I can describe it. It’s not a character on stage, he’s just one of the bros
Louis is goated
This whole video is a really fun and insightful analysis. Instant sub, I am definitely going to need to hear more of this mans insights on the comedy world. 15:57 killed me
He’s a naturally hilarious dude, he can just talk about anything and it’s funny.
this vid is awesome
thats ruff was awesome stop hating my guy 😭
His stand up is legit just like the pod. That’s why it works so well.
Don't always agree with everything you say, but I have to respect the craftmanship of the video, really appreciate you trying to diversify your style.
Shane gillis fans try not to get mad at the slightest criticism challenge: Impossible
“If you’re a simpleton, fast forward this part as if were talking about the dark lord Voldemort”
That really threw off the whole vid for me, such an odd moment with the preemptive apology as if he’s actually committing a serious offense
Shane I love you, I’m back to doing quests and they’re getting dark again.
hearing folks from across the pond reference the Rogan-sphere is a real treat because i feel like a bit of a snob snubbing them all the time. cheers.
All throughout highschool and well into adulthood, I noticed people becoming obsessed things weren't that great just because they're popular. Shane Gillis is one of those things
No he is better that’s why
Fantastic video but using the Sing About Me (I'm Dying of Thirst) instrumental as casual background music is absolutely insane man.
you nailed what i couldn't put a finger on why i love santino and theo on podcasts but can't sit through their stand up. nice video good work
Great analysis as always , this channel is underappreciated gold.
I heard Bob Dylan and thought my Spotify opened 😂
“Now lets play Hey Jude” was the least realistic part of the Beatle impression😭 love this video bro
I enjoy how you articulate and gove shape to ideas that floatnhalf-formed through my head. The specificity helps so much
I also appreciate you taking the time to make quality stuff instead of flooding timeline!
I dont agree with every opinion, but i like the analytical break down of comedians and their methods. You earned a sub for that.
Hi shane, can't wait til you talk about this on MSSP :)
I had this in my "Watch Later" for a month, because I thought it was just a Shane Gillis special.
I need to hit that bell.
This level of analysis for some dude making jokes is crazy
Mate... I'm so glad you brought it up, I love Santino's energy and timing during bad friends and I was left speechless when I watched his last half an hour special... painfully unfunny I couldn't believe it was the same guy
santino is one of those dudes that i consider funny but would NEVER watch anything recorded or "material" from them. There's a few others that fall into the same category. It's really not even a slight towards him, i mean it in the best way. Being spur of the moment/off the cuff type funny is great, situational humor and just having the wit to be funny in conversation and on the spot. He cracks me up on Bad Friends, but yeh, not a "prepared material" guy.
@@SneakyG59 It's kinda like Rogan for me. I fuck with him on his podcast but his standup just isn't it for me.
norm said "that's funny, right?" a lot. he reminds me of norm, my favorite comedian. i think he's going to get to norms level.
He's definitely influenced by norm to some extent. He also does that thing norm did where he pretends to be a really simple dumb guy when he's secretly much more intelligent. I also love that norm reached out when he was being canceled and fired from snl with a private heartfelt message of support and encouragement.
This is an incredibly good analysis. Bravo. Your take on CK is lame, but your call obviously. Seriously good video - a huge amount of work obviously went into this
Though Ari’s yoga video are gay
Music choices are on point. Tribes best instrumentals and mulatu astatke at the end
Thank you
Using the song from True Romance just hit me out of nowhere. You're so cool for that
Gillis, Norman, Soder, Oakerson, and Von are leaders and pioneers in a new era of comedy: bro comedy. They make everyone feel like they're one of the bros just hanging out. It's quite literally inclusive comedy. What a time we're in.
That's a lot of words to say he's a average funny dude that found his niche in being relatable to his audience by being himself. Which is why hes the fuckn man!
What an outstandingly good video. Really hope gillis sees this. If nothing else it shows youre a huge fan
Hi Shane, we love you!
Great video! I too am deeply interested in the science of comedy and you are clearly well learned. Thank you
The inside joke thing is so true, being Australian i knew the kangaroo video so i laughed knowing what i was laughing about but the monkey bars video i had never seen and i laughed anyway because of how he told it i felt like id seen it lol
This was really well put together!! Ending with the Paw Patrol joke , very nice !!
Louis CK is absolutely one of the greatest comedians of all time
So was Bill Cosby, incredibly skilled and influential, but you don't see people replaying his shit all the time, because they don't wanna look at his stupid face after what he's done. (And no, what Louie did isn't as bad as Cosby. Most shitty things people do aren't as bad as Cosby. That does not make it okay or no big deal.)
@@liferadous Yea... Nowhere near the same.
I can just imagine Shane watching this saying “so that’s why I’m funny”
Louis asked grown women if they would consent to him having a shuffle - the adult women, who had already agreed to go back to Louis' room, all said yes.
The adult women hoped this would advance their career - something Louis never said or implied.
Since Louis was known for doing this since the turn of the century, when he had very, very little 'Star Power' it would be unfair to suggest Louis was abusing his position.
He is simply an adult man who had a kink, who always asked for consent - and only asked adult women.
This just isn't true. Only two women agreed to meet him in his hotel room, together, believing it was for professional purposes. Two women were approached at their workplaces, where he was powerful. (If you go to your subordinate at work and ask if you can jack off in front of them, you will be fired, with good reason.) One got ambushed over the phone.
Those are just the five originally brought up in the New York Times expose. NONE said they agreed because they thought it was a quid pro quo for their careers. More have come out since and shared in the documentary. You are repeating LIES manufactured as part of an expensive PR firm's spin package for a millionaire who does not care about you. You're unjustly slandering these women who got violated by their hero and spent years being too scared to say anything.
I used to like Louie, too. I changed my mind based on new evidence. Are you a person who pays attention to facts and evidence? Because you're not acting like one right now.
@@liferadous Violated by their hero - there you go comparing women to children.
He asked - they consented.
If women want equality, then they should live by the same rules as men. Not a single man would complain if a woman asked if she could rub one out in front of them.
Stop taking away their agency.
Stop treating them like infants.
@@liferadous I often go to hotel bedrooms for professional purposes.
This was a phenomenal analysis. I haven't come across your videos, but I thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated this. Well done! Keep it up, I hope everyone realizes this treasure of a channel is here!
11:51 yo is that Jeff Epstein?😂
Thought i was the only one who saw it
Didn't know that I would enjoy this breakdown of shanes comedy skills so much. Great job man.
the dance you do to signal your distain for C.K is hilarious.
Shane is the best comic IN MY OPINION. I listen to mssp while I'm at work and I have to stop myself from howling sometimes
What a beautiful way to end it.
I walked in there and said “wowww what a beautiful way to end it”
An excellent analysis video & i love all the Americans getting offended in the comments because people don't like Louis CK 😂 . I'm not really a fan of Gillis (he's no Stewart Lee) but i do like your break down analysis.
Quality over quantity ❤
I saw Gillis at the Comedy Cellar in NY in 2021 and I knew he was different. Just a few years later he's on top of the industry.
King Louie went through the wringer and paid his dues, he's still a genius comic and we all need to respect that and move on
This is one of the best comedy analysis videos I’ve seen in a while. I’ve definitely been turned off by stand off since the death of King Norm. Feels like stand up has been a horrifying jumble of simply unfunny people, self-congratulatory douchebags, and pseudo-intellectuals who think they can revolutionize the concept. Shane is certainly a breath of fresh air and this video does a great job of explaining his comedy. Really hope he does another Netflix special.
This was phenomenal please do an analysis of Patrice O’Neal ‼️
I was born in 87, Dave is my goat. But Shane is 100% leader of the new school. Anyone that just knows Shane from stand up please youtube mssp. Matt and shane bounce off eachother so well its hilarious
Ok 26:41 is wrong. I love Shane but he will literally call someone a pussy then kick them out.
When
I really appreciate this vid. Your insight and perspective gives, honesty. The “Synonym-Comedy” comment is truly insightful and logical. Puts all of these people in on a spectrum. I was always thinking to myself when listening or watching comedians that use the synonym tactics, “this is not that funny” but I couldn’t put my finger on the reason behind my criticism. I always thought that I was just to jaded and know I can pinpoint the reason why I’m not , fall on the floor laughing like the audience is. I imagine it’s hard to catch next to tons of people laughing uncontrollably. Thanks again
lmao imagine saying Louie "abused" women with a straight face. He asked if he could wack it in front of them and they all said yes, and then took the opportunity to play the victim or get a payday. That's why it's funny in his bits. When he says, 'make sure you say, ARE YOU SURE'. To call that abuse is clown tier to the max.
I always thought it was abuse of his power over much less known comedians than him. That they might have thought he wouldn't keep booking them if they didn't let him do it. But yeah, its wasnt NEARLY as bad as the media made it sound. He never physically made them sit there and watch. Weird? Yeah, but its not like he is Cosby.
Or maybe he never did those things and he set it all up because he was sick of the mega fame???
It's definitely abuse of power and I understand that the victims feel used. However I don't think that was intentional on his part, he just enjoy people watching, he asked and I don't think he thought about it too much
@@AvastarBin just because it has the word "abuse" in it, doesn't mean being an abuser and abusing your power are remotely similar. An abuser always has a victim, someone who is abusing their power does not always have victims, and in most cases isn't even hurting or involving another party.
@@SneakyG59 I'm confused at your comment and what you're trying to achieve here. Someone that's abusing his power over someone else definitely HAS victims : the ones that he has power over. And knowingly or not, Louis ck abused his power over some people and those people were victims of his abuse.
@@AvastarBin apologies, i meant to reply just as a normal comment, or reply to someone else, because the comment/context i replied to i can't find now. For some reason i @'d you.
Thanks for including the "skip to" part. Louis is top shelf n did nothing wrong
Well done
Shane is undeniably funny. His stand up, his podcasts, his youtube skits and his tv show. His "that's gay" catch phrase, though it is politically incorrect and harsh on a minority, his crowds are mainly men and they have all grown up with that word scaring them and threatening their status in their peer groups. it is loaded with discomfort, and discomfort is where comedians play.
Louis talking down to hecklers is hilarious, idk what you're going on about here. He's the GOAT.