Suzuki V-Strom 1050XT Honest Review
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2022
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This is my review of the 2022+ Suzuki V-Strom 1050XT. As a former V-Strom 1000 owner, I've got a very special relationship with the name of V-Strom. If you want to know what it's like to ride, go ahead and watch my full review and let me know what you think about this bike.
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As the original owner of a 2002 DL1000 S/N 00142, I appreciate all the advances that have been made on the model. I bought that bike when I was 50, and here I am 70 years old. Where did all that time go? IMHO, that it has come so far is a testament to the decision of my original purchase. Everyone knows that the stonkin' 1000cc v-twin adapted from the TL1000 (RIP) is addicting and I couldn't wait to get on board. First farkle was a Givi windscreen, much better than the original. Second farkle was engine guards and a set of highway peg mounts from Happy Trails. Next was the Givi top box. I've had two valve checks in my 105km and counting and just one shim was replaced. Not because it needed it, but because it was getting close to tolerance. That's a valve train we can all appreciate. I'm one of those rare guys who found the original saddle pretty comfortable and I'm on my second saddle cover now as the original was wearing pretty thin. I know that the DL1000 has been transformed through technology twenty years later, but for some reason I enjoy the simplicity of the one I own. I do know this through experience; from single track to interstate, to intercontinental, my 1000 has never let me down and always kept me comfortable. Best bike purchase decision ever, hands down.
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I'm glad that you're into the good DL 1000. It's a beast out there, and has a certain cool vibe. I wish it had ABS and traction control as then it would be fully relevant today for many riders. This is what I was missing in it when I was owning a V-Strom 1000 myself. If not for those reasons, I might even keep it till today too.
@@VToldsMotoShow growing up in the 50's and 60's and riding many bikes of that era, fuel injection and disk brakes make this bike all that I want. I learned to ride and brake without those additional electronic controls so the Strom works perfectly for me. I rely on my acquired skills.
I'm looking at buying a Vstrom. But damn, it is really hard to Stomach 100 Horsepower. Logic Says Suzuki. But my Ego says KTM or BMW.
You need to learn how to ride in the city at slow speed.. Its not the bike its you.. I've ridden a bmw gs1200 and a gs 1250 and they are not better at slow speed than the v-strom, in fact the v-strom is much better in traffic than the gs because they are narrower,i had a 650 v strom and the 1000xt that i have now feels as confortable ridding in the city as the 650, and if you like you can even see a vídeo i made ridding some gnarly single tracks very slow without a problem in the 1000xt
If it was me and not the bike, I'd feel and say the same thing about every bike. And I don't, so the conclusion seems to be different. The handlebar is not the case for me when it comes to judging the bike's behavior at low speeds. I used to ride in those circumstances almost daily in the past and that's why it's important to me. As a bonus to enjoy squeezing through traffic on a V-Strom 1000: ruclips.net/video/HLZtShP0684/видео.html
@@VToldsMotoShow you are the only one complaining about low speed stability.. So its either you or the specific bike you tried.. 🙂 i bought a 650xt new and did 42000 klm on it, many of them comuting has i used the bike daily in every condition of weather, then sold it and bought a new 1000xt did 24000 klm on it also lot of them in heavy traffic ( i used to live in Auckland, new Zealand) never had any problem with low speed stability and never saw anyone complaining about that in a v-strom..
@@VToldsMotoShow ruclips.net/video/KMUJoXV95Ns/видео.html does it look like it's not stable at low speed this was without puting my feet on the ground..
@@samuel9316 I do agree with you , I ride V strom and a GS. I dont complain about low speed stability.
I’ve owned this bike a few months and done some thousand kms. I disagree with the lack of stability at low speeds. It is a stable and balanced bike, however you cannot go around the fact that it weighs 250 kg. One needs to get used to this. The engine likes it above 3000 revs. Below it vibrates. Mine doesn’t have that awkward wire on the right hand side. It must be an after market thing. This is a really great bike and that’s why I bought it. I feel that some tend to compare it with the big GS and they are different leagues.
Have to try it, but still I believe you. Drop by when you have time. :)
totally agree
@@mcfermulen2693 :) I believe you bro.
I think that the wire is simply a heated grip on that side. Now, there are other bikes in this class that are even heavier, and they simply do better at lower speeds. It's not bad but it's been here from the beginning of the first V-Strom. I do compare this area to the big GS as it's a benchmark here. But Ducati is not far behind and in fact the 2015 Multistrada 1200 already was great in terms of low speed riding precision and balancing. This proved to me that it's not only because of BMW's boxer hanging so low but it's the whole suspension setup, angles and how things work together. If we were to compare the V-Strom 1050 to the newest Honda Africa Twin 1100 which I just gave back, then yeah, V-Strom kicks its ass anytime and is so much better at low speeds. I think it's also slightly better than the Harley Pan America here. Still, I know Suzuki can do better and I keep my fingers crossed that they will. Cheers!
Can’t wait for your perspective on the new 1050 DE…
As the owner of an original 1993 BIG 800 back in the day the all new DE in black may be my calling card back to the game after 30 years…
I think you are defenitely the most acrobatic motorcycle reviewer in all of YT land 😝
BB🍻🍻
Good fluid review, but I think you were too hard on the Vstrom.
The looks is subjective, I kinda like it and the color scheme is pretty cool too.
The positive:
1. Value for money
2. Enough tech that its easy to use ( not like the Africa Twin with lots of buttoms or so many features like the Ducati).
3. Great smooth and reliable engine.
4.Low manintenance.
5. Cruise control ( at least in the XT, finally!!)
The negative:
1. The LCD is way to simple, it could have been better, an analogue hybrid like the Hayabusa or a TFT.
2. No quick shifter.
3. No ABS switch
4. The weight could be lower.
For me its a 8 out of 10, not as fancy like the other brands but reliable and complete.
By the way the suspension feels good to me too.
Hopefully they can put another dash anda quick shifter.
Take care.
Thanks a lot for the input. I do agree with all the points that you mentioned. Not sure about the weight as it may not be too heavy I think. At least it doesn't feel very, very heavy like Africa Twin or Harley-Davidson Pan America Special within this category. Also, not as easy to handle as R1250GS or Multistrada 1260 or V4. As for reliability, then it of course depends. I've heard some hard-to-believe stories about the newest 1050 that were quite critical but perhaps it's too early to judge that part. V-Strom has a special place in my heart forever.
By far the best V-Strom 1050XT review on YT.
I'm glad you like it. Cheers!
@@VToldsMotoShow And also the best sounding review. Your stock muffler sounds better than most aftermarket slip-ons in other videos.
I use my 2018 1000xt to commute to work in a big city and really like it. Very responsive, corners easily, plenty of power. My last bike was an Africa Twin and I never got used to the 21 inch front wheel and long travel suspension and it really dove when braking. The Vstrom is much better for what I do. Low maintenance, reliable, and fun.
It's good to hear that you're enjoying your V-Strom. I also kept in mind your comment about Africa's 21 inch front wheel for the few last days and I think that it may also cause its far from perfect low speed behaviors. Thanks for mentioning all that!
Loved the grunt from my tl 1000s ..similar engine apparently.
Yes, TL1000 was the one that started it all! One may say that it gave birth to the legend of a V-Strom 1000! Amazing machinery with the same sound actually.
Thanks for your review. I certainly agree with your comments on the engine. I don't mind its weight as I use it only for long highway rides. It feels solid even with luggage. I am 184 cm and raised the seat height as it felt too low. For one person it is long enough but for two-up riding it may need to be just a little longer. Overall I think the bike is an excellent alternative to the GS and in Australia much cheaper. An excellent choice for touring; love the bike.
I was glad to read that you're happy with the V-Strom. It can be a super rewarding daily bike for pretty much any task that you throw at it. Interesting point about the seat since we're both pretty much the same weight. However, I'm not riding with a pillion much. All the best!
You mentioned why the prev.gen V-Strom (2014-2020) being hated due to the outlook. I would be grateful, if you would try it and have a honest review - from my point, I'm still happy with the analog rpm clock, also already having the most appreciatable features and techs.
Thank,
BR, Peter
As I found when I bought my 2014 Vee new, I had to adjust the front suspension which made it perfect for me-no more diving during braking. I use mine a lot off road so switched out the front sprocket easily with a 14T replacing the 17T stock. It does not effect toad quality much at all, just a bit more rev but acceptable. For road trips I can switch it back in 15 minutes. I love the low torque the ‘14 series have that they changed in the newer models BUT like all the standard accessories that comes with the new ones. Mine is also the adv model with some stuff on it but not as much as the new. The new still seems like a solid bike and I am sure a great tourer. Mine will run anywhere I want it to as you ride them like a tank. They are not subtle, you power through stuff. Anyway, a great review my friend and as all Vstroms are so adaptable to your preferences very economically. The ride by wire is nice, the spoked wheels (yet my cast have banged a lot of rocks out of their way w/o even a Knick riding year round. I have ridden bikes for over 50 years on road and way back into nowhere Ian’s I can say I chose a Vee because it will start, run, take you anywhere you want to go and bring you home. Super reliable and easy maintenance. I ride with a good mix of AFs, GS, Tigers, etc and we all go out and come home at ghe same time. Riding skill makes a big difference in that. Some are better at certain things but a Vee will always get you there and back. I had the 650 also and they are amazing also. I got the Vee as my forever bike, now in my 60s, to go back to more road once my body can not handle the back woods but that may be a while. With just a bit of figment, adjustment and a couple economical add ons these bikes will give you many years and even many more maintenance free miles. There are great support groups on line for any questions you may ever have and tried and reuse accessories to use. Again, a really great honest review here you don’t see every day. Keep up this good work!!
It was a pleasure to read - thank you for sharing. I've got a feeling that V-Strom's name is really something meaningful nowadays. Since the beginning it was successful and without major issues. Suzuki did a really good job with the concept and made those bikes a good proposition for their price. Very capable, solid and still enjoyable for those who like to push them hard on the road. I'm happy that you're enjoying your Vee - I know what you mean, especially when I'm thinking about my own V-Strom 1000 that I kept for over 10 years. All the best with the bike!
Cześć! Świetna recenzja :-) Ja osobiście zmieniłem DL1000 2005 na 2015. Sporo z rzeczy, które zauważyłeś już wtedy się pojawiło i moim zdaniem ta właśnie generacja była największym progresem. Wygląd to rzecz gustu, mi akurat się podoba mój "dziobak". Wymiana na obecny model nie wchodzi w grę, moim zdaniem za mało wniósł do rozwoju V-Stromów. Może kolejne generacje mnie czymś zauroczą ale na dzień dzisiejszy nic więcej nie potrzebuję. Maszyna stworzona do bezproblemowego nawijania kilometrów, żeby tylko wystarczyło do tego okazji i czasu ;-) Pozdrawiam!
Cześć, dzięki za spostrzeżenia! Ja też mam nadzieję, że Suzuki znów porządnie zakasa rękawy i albo naprawdę dopracuje to co ma, albo całkiem się wybudzi i zbuduje takie motocykle, które znów odniosą taki sukces jak pierwsze V-Stromy. Szerokości!
wlasnie sie bije z myslami czy brac 2018 za £7000 czy 2021 za £10000, oba z symbolicznymi przebiegami
I test rode a new 2020 Kawasaki Versys 650 and a 2020 Vstrom 1050 back to back, and I much preferred the Vstrom. The 650 was lacking power, it felt less solid and well made, the gear box was clunky feeling. I've never cared much for how a bike looks, I care more about feel, function and reliability. I never rode an older version of the Vstrom 1000, but this new engine was fun, seemed fine to me. I enjoyed it, I still am considering buying one.
The engine is the same as the 1000 from 2016 to 2019.. They just updated a few things because of emissons
@@samuel9316 I think they tuned it differently, the hp and torque peak at higher rpms than before. Supposedly it feels quite a bit different than the prior gen, but I don't know.
@@rockymountainlife yes they tunned it diffrently I've ridden the 2014, am in my second 1000xt and i test drove the 1050xt and decided to get another 1000xt because i didin't like the 1050 xt.. It has too much electronic stuff you dont need, (i ride mine with the traction control always in the off position, so i dont need any of the stuff they put in 1050 )and is around 20 kilos heavier than the 1000xt...
Versys 650 might be closer to an Yamaha Tracer than anything that is really and adventure bike. Out of the two, I'd likely go for the V-Strom 1050 even despite its looks. It's a real issue for me but that V2 sound makes me extremely excited. And it's a pretty comfortable bike too.
@samuel, I had a nasty crash due to not having traction control on one of the bikes that I've ridden several years ago. I imagine that the system could've been even further from perfect on a V-Strom before, but I personally would be willing to accept it if it would prevent me from crashing. Highly recommended.
I bought v strom 1050xt 2 years ago and still owning it. 3 complaints personally.. 1. No Quick shifter 2. LCD dash 3. Hard seat
I have solved no. 3 seat issue by customizing it (replaced the stock cushion with latex rubber foam) but no.1 and no.2 issue can't be solved. Recently added S1000GT in my garage and experienced the suzuki quick shifter. It is wonderfully smooth and easy. I wonder why they did not put this quick shifter to the vstrom 1050 which is already prepared
Low speed control issue I agree with your point but I can manage it because I've ridden this thing for 2 years
So, you can get used to it. If so, it is OK.
@@RRRRefuelRideRace Yes possible but I still miss the quick shifter that's all i want
@@suzukik9833 OK, I get it.
I guess that overall, this makes it a very good fit for you, doesn't it? Especially with the 3rd point fixed. I think I might've found a helpful action, if it comes to stability. Ride Honda Africa Twin 1100 at low speed. This will should to many of us just how much better a V-Strom 1050 is at low speeds. It changes perspective. Which still doesn't mean that Suzuki shouldn't aim at what Ducati and BMW have achieved in this area.
Excellent review
Thanks and I'm glad that you like it. Cheers!
@22:12 I am pretty sure it's the wire for the OEM heated grip. Could be routed differently.
I think you may be right and it should've gone underneath the bar rather than over the top.
One of the best reviews on the 1050 Vee I’ve seen, however your score doesn’t reconcile with your review, and seems to be based more on design. For the money the 1050xt is really hard to beat. I got the all black XT and its pretty cool. However I have been looking for something a bit more exciting and had a test ride on the S1000xr and I am going to stick with the Vee. Whilst the s1000xr is orgasmic at high revs, it’s really not comfortable at the low end and because I do a lot of city riding, I couldn’t justify the significant increase in price for the thrill of the odd weekend ride. Are there any other bikes you would recommend having a look at? , considering I am 198cm and 36inch inside leg. 👍
Thanks, I'm glad that you like the video. I tend to agree that it's still a good value proposition. I totally get your conclusion in regard to S1000XR and here I've got to give you credit for a pretty accurate description of what riding it in the city would look like. It's fun on a long stretch of road with no speed limit. V-Strom seems to be more happy in city riding but if you'd really like to enjoy slow speed punching your way through the traffic, then BMW R1250GS would be the number 1 choice with its perfect balancing and plenty of torque down low. My second choice would be the previous Ducati Multistrada, so 1260 or even one generation before, but absolutely after its face lifting in 2015 I believe. Those Ducatis do pretty well at low speeds and are pretty close to how good the GS is in this area but they sound a ton better having proper V2 engines. So if you like that in a V-Strom, then the sound of big Ducati twins should be fine to you too. They're also just as comfy as the V-Strom 1000. I hope that this helps! With your height though, the GS may have an edge anyway with that wide handlebar.
Great review!!!
If Suzuki could improve wind protection,the bike will be even better
I'm glad you like it and thankfully we can take the matter into our own hands and fix it for Suzuki.
Try countersteering the Suzuki 1050XT. Steering reacts very rapidly with this method.
Excellent review. I can't decide weather to buy 1050xt of 2022 Africa Twin. Which one would you recommend? I commute to work, so I ride a mix of a city and highway roads. Dzieki
This video has your answer...
ruclips.net/video/SoxkKBlLlLM/видео.html
It depends a lot on where you're gonna ride it. For long on road rides and for soft off road trips the V Strom XT would be a better choice at a much better price in my opinion. But you have to test them both in order to see which one fits you.
I actually have an answer for you as I gave back a rented Africa Twin 1100 Adventure Sports from 2022 with DCT transmission. If you mention "city", this automatically directs me into the V-Strom 1050XT. On the highway it will also likely do better thanks to a much better seat than Africa. It's also not as hard to steer in traffic at city speeds. It may not be as eager to turn as Africa, but that's mainly an advantage on twisty roads. V-Strom isn't bad there either. If not V-Strom's design, I'd easily choose it over AT1100. The engine also feels just a bit more punchy than Africa's. Now, personally taking design into account, I'd have to go with Africa and accept that it's not as friendly as a V-Strom. All in all, I hope that you like the V-Strom 1050XT looks and can go with it as I consider it a significantly better choice for city riding than Africa Twin 1100. You haven't mentioned "offroad", so that would make this choice even more justified. I hole this helps, cheers! Dzieki too!
Nice talk 👍
I'm actually in the process of looking around and test riding bikes to replace my 2004 VStrom and it's not easy.
So many great bikes out there, but even so, I'm finding them hard to justify the price tags, when my old VStrom, with some personal upgrades, isn't really worse than todays offerings...
I didn't even consider this new VStrom, because it just doesn't look like a VStrom anymore. It just looks likes everything else on the market...
IMO suzuki should go back to the first gen design, modernize it, loose a bit of weight, squeeze in more torque and i think loyal Strommers, like myself, would give it more consideration, based upon the first gen experience, which has been fantastic 👍
What bike do you think would be a good replacement for the 1st gen?
Good question to a former V-Strom owner (myself). I like punchy V2 engines with great sound, so the new V-Strom would be in the game along with KTM 1290 Super Adventure or Super Duke GT. I don’t care about off-roading and hence the Super Duke GT. But I worry that it may be too stiff but there’s no demo to try it. I also care a lot about precision in steering and good balancing so BMW R1250GS and Ducati Multistrada V4 are the two options (Triumph Tiger 1200 to be ridden soon). Here I don’t know about the KTM. In an old V-Strom 1000, there was no ABS and traction control, and it isn’t too stable at low speeds either. In the end of the day, I’ve got similar conclusions as yourself that there is no perfect replacement. The perfect combination would be a BMW R1250GS with Harley Pan America’s V2, 150 HP engine. I cannot think of anything else that would nail it. So GS would win if I could stand its sound and the tractor engine. This conflict is impossible to overcome for me at this moment. But I’m curious about the two KTMs mentioned. I hope this helps if you’ve got a similar perspective.
@@VToldsMotoShowI see the same dilema in you also.... 🤣🤣
You can change absolutely every setting while rolling, And the settings stay how you put them even after you turn the bike off. You just have to let off the throttle if you're adjusting drive modes. And if you don't know about features like the one push start, it makes me think you really don't know much about this bike. Good review but I'm not positive you're fully informed ☮️ ❤️
I'm not sure I understand how mentioning a one push start means not knowing it. Sounds sort of illogical, doesn't it? What does "fully informed" mean exactly? Is user's manual a "full information" on a motorcycle and what matters when you ride it, or rather how certain functions work, how they feel and whether they are intuitive to use or not?
@@VToldsMotoShow great you picked up on the one point where he made a mistake and conveniently ignored the rest.
He said that every setting can be changed on the fly as long as you close throttle and said changes remain unaltered when you switch off and switch on the bike. This is the truth. If you have said otherwise in your review, the smart and the right thing to do is to own up your error. After all everyone makes mistakes.
FYI I have gone thru most of the comment section and have read your responses. For what it’s worth, you should know that you come across as an arrogant person who….
a.) can’t accept any viewpoint other than your own,
b.) can’t accept anything less than gushing praise in feedback.
Not a good thing IMO.
@@passionandcommonsense you made my day, fully agree 👍I've gone thru nearly all comments and videos ... I don't know how much this guy V-told gets paid from BMW and Ducati 👎
I love the way it looks. I think it's a brilliant
Thanks for sharing! It's good to see another perspective and that in fact it's always a matter or one's personal taste. Cheers!
Yeah me too, I think it is a great looking bike, especially in the red and white colorway
I’m torn between the Vee and a higher mileage 950s. Cost of ownership and solid reliability vs toys/skyhook and handling…I wondered which you’d choose?
If you mean a Ducati Multistrada 950S, then I might not be able to respond to that since I haven't had a chance to ride it before the V2 arriving. I'll likely jump on the V2 somewhere in 2023 and it may be interesting. Some used to say that they like this variant more than the bigger Multistrada. If it indeed would turn out to be just as good as the bigger one (older Variant) and have some areas at an even higher level, then well... it may just as well be an overall more well-engineered bike. Now if I'd personally include design into such a comparison, then sorry V-Strom. It would have to be Ducati in my case. I hope this helps.
Oh my god 😂 i love how you rip the bad sides of every motorcycles perfectly 😂 especially you are Insanely funny 😂 and that face 5:59 to 6:00 and 19:20 to 19:22 😂👌🏻🤣
Thanks for sharing this, you made me smile, and yes, I feel that motorcycling journalism needs a solid kick and stop only praising the bikes that are given away for weeks in exchange for perfect reviews :). Coming from automotive industry, I've seen it from both sides already and don't like all the filters ordered by PR departments of those manufacturers. All the best to you!
Well... It's not unstable at all at low speeds. I just bought mine and compairing to my Honda NC 750 x the V Strom 1050 feels much more stable when I filter the trafic at low speeds. And I feel the need to mention that I live in the most agglomerated capital city from the UE.
Let's make it clear: to me low speed here is below 30 or even maybe 40 km/h. I've not ridden Honda NC 750 so cannot compare. Try Ducati Multistrada V4 or BMW R1250GS which are so much better with BMW being on top here. I hope this explains more.
@@VToldsMotoShow To me low speed is below 10 km/h and even lower and I still find the V Strom very stable. I've ridend R1250 and you're right, it's probably the most stable motorcycle ever made because its lower center of graviy which is given by the boxer engine. But it costs around 4000 Euros more than I spent on my V strom. On the other hand the V Strom's slim shape makes it easier to be riden in very aglomerated trafic than the GS.
It's not unstable at low speed
Bought mine 2 years ago and have ridden it quite a lot. I ride other bikes and have owned lots of bikes, a DL650 preceded this purchase. I don't disagree with some of your critical points; adjusting the windscreen from the front? Dumb. A bit too tall. Yep. But that's about it. I happen to really like the styling, as does pretty much everyone else. The front-end dive is no issue for me, and I also own a BMW motorcycle with that fancy BMW front suspension. Low-speed instability? Nope, but then again I don't lane split either. However, I can get to a stop sign/light and balance many times without putting a foot down. The one thing I have hated since the beginning, and only now coming to terms with, is the hydraulic clutch. I hate it. No feedback at all, and it disengages almost as soon as you pull on the lever. My old DL650 had that wonderful gearbox that clicked through gears like butter with positive feedback. Not so the new gearbox. I'm getting used to how it wants to be shifted, just don't care for it yet.
Interesting point about the clutch. I think that the disengaging behaviour of it has been there since the beginning of the V-Stroms in 2002. It actually never bothered me, if I'm getting it all correctly. This shows how different things influence our perception, so it's fun to see and thanks for sharing it!
I think Suzuki was watching your review :) Suzuki v-strom 1050de
Wow, that’s something - thanks a lot for the hint!
They moved torque higher on rpm. Did you like it? I love mine 2018 with full torque at 3000pm, but i didnt try new engine.
I have, prefer the 1000 which by the way is also a 1037cc the 1050 is the same engine as the 1000 with a few tweeks i didin't like.. I rather have a throtle cable than ride by wire..
Although i did notice it has a bit more power in the higher rpm range (8k to 9k rpm range) but its not same in the bottom end..
I believe that whatever changes Suzuki have done over the years, it's not a night and day difference. Even in the first V-Stroms, after installing a Power Commander and building your own fuel map, the difference would be like having eaten a lunch before riding or not - almost impossible to notice if you don't have two bikes next to each other to test. Manufacturers sometimes claim a lot of things that then turn out either pure marketing or just what they intended to do. Here I'd put it into the marketing slogans territory. Overall I like this engine as it's pretty encouraging but is it better than before? I can't really tell the difference. I hope that this in fact helps. Cheers!
Can't comment on 1000XT but affer 5 years and 55k kms of SV650 the 1050XT(i own it for a month and 2000 kms)is definitely underwhelming below 3000rpm for a litre bike...It needs to be pushed and then it is OK,although as i said above then you deal with the clunky/skratchy 1st to 2nd gear change.Other than that the bike is beautiful,complete,easy,fast enough,has excellent brakes,it is well made BUT it lacks charisma as it was written above. It doesn't please me to drive it,in contrast with the SV(which has a perfect gearbox btw).
@@Panos-xo9rc did you turn off the traction control on the 1050? But yeh the 1000xt has a lot of torque until 3000 rpm( in fact peak torque is at 3000 rpm) for me the 1000xt is a better bike than the 1050xt because of many things.. The 1000 is lighter has some storage space below the seat, you can adjust the windshield while ridding, doesn't have a bunch of electronics you don't need but it does have the one's you need ( cornering abs and dual brake done by the abs if needed) and other stuff... About charisma looks whatever you want to call it i don't care about that, it's all subjective.. What it matters for me is to have a bike that i can use daily without issues instead of dealing with constant issues like some of the more "charismatic" have.. ✌️
Awww I love the Duck Strom
Oh dear... Good one :D
I kinda like the style actually.
Thanks for mentioning that! The more people express they like it, the more others automatically will too - and I'm serious here.
I would like to see your opinion on the GSX S10000 GT, a bona fide sport touring motorcycle from Suzuki - in 2022!
Oh, it looks cool but too harsh on the wrists and I suspect that too rough for my butt as well.
Well done! This motorcycle looks a very nice joice but, unfortunately, here I'm Brazil is to expensive to mantiene. So I'm planning to gets a V-strom 1000... 2018 maybe...
As long as it has ABS, you're not losing much if anything at all really.
1 touch start was available on Ducatis since 2003 at least.
If that's right, then they've never done a good job in advertising that. This used to be a common things in cars with keyless start as people would hold the button while those cars start automatically after pressing the button just once - so like in this V-Strom. Suzuki also doesn't mention nor advertise it on their website.
Its weird. I hate it in pictures but love how it looks when I'm actually standing next to it
Not sure why you'd want to adjust the screen on a daily basis ! Once should be enough. And the key in your pocket!!! Really?
It's like electric seats in a car. You don't adjust them before every drive but once you put a thicker jacket on, or your body or just a mood feel differently, you may want to change the current setting. Same on a bike with a windshield.
Went from a 650 strom to a 1050 a few weeks ago. Don't agree on the low speed manouvering problems. No problem what so ever! The engine needs some more rpm's on and I have to get used to the where the weight of the bike is. Love the engine and the relaibility of Suzuki! Screen issues can be solved with an after market one. Not the most beautifull bike I agree, but for a 6.5 (with long legs) person this is the best fit.
I'm glad that you're happy with the swap and ending up on a 1050. As for low speed, try R1250GS, V85 TT or Versys 1000 and you might see how big of a difference there is in this area. I rode a V-Strom 1000 for over 1000 years in city traffic and I was happy with the bike. I wasn't extremely satisfied with its stability but it didn't prevent me from riding it. Gaining a perspective helps to define what's good and what's below average. Still, this 1050 was enjoyable for me to ride. Feels pretty happy to ride thanks to the engine. I'm in love with its sound. Cheers!
Thank you to V-Told for keeping his reviews so honest. The truth is, the new VStrom 1050 lacks one of the most important factors in the ADV bike market - CHARISMA. If Suzuki had compensated with thrifty pricing, I would be glad to see it around...it would have a valuable place. But it's gone the way of Honda with the Africa Twin and Yamaha with the Tracer 9 by acting like raising the MSRP is a way of keeping up with the competition, when the truth is exactly the opposite. If you DO like the new VStrom, and do some off-road, spend a couple more thousand and get the new Triumph Tiger 900. Wayyy better off-road and much higher quality.
PS- bigger fuel tank!
Bigger Fuel Tank!!
BIGGER FUEL TANK!!!
Yeah, they're all trying to get as much cash as possible. Well, who isn't? After just having ridden the newest Africa Twin 1100 Adventure Sports and seeing its price, I'm willing to say that the V-Strom may be considered a pretty good deal in comparison. It's not fantastic value for money like it used to be 10-15 years ago, but in all this craziness, I'd say it may actually be worth it. You made me curious about the Triumph 900. I'm interested in trying it as well to run it through its paces and against a Multistrada V2 and F850GS. Thanks for the input!
I still own the Bandit 1250S that i bought for 9000 euros in 2008. At this time it was a bargain as the price a little later raised to 12000 euros. It wasn't the quickest, it wasn't with the best handling also it wasn't the best looking for it's category. But it was good at all the cases. Bottom line, I fell so in love with this motorcycle that 14 years later and I still haven't changed it. It is unbreakable due to the big engine and low HP, and everytime I test ride another motorcylce (lately i rode the Tracer 9 GT) I m thinking of the extra money I must spend to get the new motorcycle and if this money will offer me a big difference and then I decide not to change the motorcycle because I get less for this money. All this because it was in offer for 9000!!
Funny thing is that the bike I had before the 1250 bandit was a VSTORM 1000, and I decided to sell it because in low speed and especially when turning in low speeds, the handling was bad and the engine had a tendency to switch off (it happened in some ocations).
@@VToldsMotoShow Of course, we're all trying to get more $, but when the competition is clearly offering more for that $, you'd think there'd be more realism by the losing team - not generosity, just realism.
Yes, please review the Tiger 900! Also the Tiger 1200, especially the Rally version so you can have both an off-road and on-road segment on your video (I'm aiming for the 1200 but I like the 900 almost as much). Cycle News has a 2022 shootout video with 4 different models, but when I saw the Tigers weren't among them, I didn't even bother watching.
As for your videos, keep up the good work! Your personality is a strong point - these days I only have respect or time for straight-shooters like you. I've become allergic to anything that even hints of a sales pitch. Some viewers like being sold on a bike, positives all-around. I'm not one of them.
@@gerokatseros It's a really interesting moment when you get back on your bike that cost dramatically less than a bike you've just taken for a test ride, and realize the bike you already have is the better bike, even putting pricing aside. It's happened to me twice with my Yamaha FJ-09 (known in the UK as the MT-09 Tracer, 1st gen to the Tracer 9). The 2 bikes I tested were the KTM Super Duke GT and the BMW RT. I also much preferred my FJ-09 to the more powerful and slightly more expensive Yamaha MT-10.
I've since come to see buying a bike without a test ride as a financial suicide attempt.
refinement and finishing maybe. Quality? don't know ...for me that means reliability.
What about the 1st to 2nd gear CLUNK?It is terrible,unless you shift below 28 km/hour as the manual dictates,which honestly sucks...
Try the GS. Now, that's a CLUNK!!
I haven't noticed it really since on most bikes there's some kind of noise. Usually regardless of speed. Many riders have been complaining about a crazy sound of BMW gearboxes when shifting into the 1st gear from neutral yet it was thankfully mostly a side effect instead of a sign of a malfunction.
@@VToldsMotoShow well,i do find the 1st to 2nd change noisy and hard if i push from start to above 30 km/h(the bike is longish geared,the 6th is simply overdrive) and try to shift in normal fashion. The rest of the box is excellent,both up and down. However preloading the shift lever and then clutching makes things a lot better. I haven't had this issue with my other bike,an SV650,which has a slick gearbox and is properly geared also. Other than that the big strom is very nice and complete,albeit a bit underpowered and as i said above long geared. Thanks for the response.
Haven't tried this latest version, but on the previous generation, suspensions felt cheap, and engine didn'T have as much character as I would have liked. I actually preferred the Vstrom 650. And considering how many Vstrom 650 they sold, i can only imagine had it looked good, how many they could have sold. Same with this bike, though to me it doesn't look as bad as the older vstroms, it doesn't look great when put next to just about any modern adventure bike (or even retro inspired modern bikes).
The new VStrom 1050 is what I'd call "understyled". The new Yamaha Tracer 9 is what I'd call "overstyled " Just right would be the Kawasaki Versys 650.
The suspension felt cheaper in the vstrom 1000 than in the 650?! What years bikes are you comparing?! The latest 650 front suspension doesnt have a single adjustment, the 1000 from 2016 onwards KYB is fully adjustable...
I think your description in the design area is on point both for the current 650, and the previous 1000 - the duck. I actually feel that I like the DR-Strom more than the duck but it's not much of a compliment. Somebody at Suzuki is trying different approaches to kill the company. Just like what BMW does with their current cars - X7, 7-Series, 4-Series and the iX. Perhaps it's the same guy working for both manufacturers, secretly hired by VW Group (Audi & Ducati) to demolish any competition.
@@samuel9316 Id didnt play with suspensions, just test rode a demo bike and though it was new (like 2018-19), it felt and sounded cheap, some rattles on bumps etc. The 650 I tried was the same year and overall preferred just about evrything about it, to my surprise.
@@Speedytrip there was something wrong with the 1000 you toke for a test drive, the 1000 is superior to the 650 in everything.. if you also think the brakes of the 650 where better than the 1000 than it was something seriously wrong with the bike you tested.. The 1000 " vibrates" more than the 650 because its a bigger engine but if you dont mind or understand that its a far better bike unless you are planning on using the bike as a comuter than the 650 makes more sense
Thicker fork oil?
There may be ways of helping it but still, it should be on the manufacturer to get it right from the factory I believe.
Why does it sound like old vstrom??
Because the engine is essentially the same. There are changes but the base is the same. I find that very interesting actually. Three different shapes of the bike in 20 years and always sounding the same - it's kind of amusing.
Ten kabelek przy prawej dłoni to zasilanie ogrzewanej manetki. Podejrzewam, że można inaczej poprowadzić kabel - od dołu.
Na to by wyglądało. Dziwna sprawa w nowym motocyklu, jeszcze demonstracyjnym.
@@VToldsMotoShow A wiesz, że ja teraz jeżdżę tym egzemplarzem? Dziwne wrażenie, zobaczyć swój motocykl na YT
I also had a mk1 V-strom. Overall I liked the bike, but, that clutch basket chudder, was a deal breaker for me....
I know the issue of the clutch basket and found a way to fix it permanently for $100. My V-Strom 1000 was the first in the country that has undergone the procedure, it worked and then other followed getting rid of its vibration or totally falling apart. It was about welding some of its elements inside so that they stay stiff. No negative effects on any part of the bike and the issue gone just like that.
Love the duck
V-Duck
Serduszko zabiło trocę szybcie? :)
Oj tak! A z drugiej strony to trochę jak przyjazd do rodzinnego domu - nic nowego, ale nadal [oby] miło ;)
VStrom is perfect at low speed and doesn’t dive excessively under breaking!
Perhaps yours has a fault or a defective rider !
Alternating the hight of screen is not an issue ffs, nee transalp requires tools to do the same thing
Great bike and massively underrated!
Keep up your efforts
Must've been a defective rider as I felt that there's a lot of room for improvement in low speed handling (precision-wise) and front suspension. It's been the same since the first V-Strom 1000 which I actually owned myself for over 10 years.
If you compare the price of the (2022) vstrom xt adventure ($17049) with the Africa twin adventure sport ($17299) beside the Africa twin not having side bags, the AT win all day over the vstrom.
Vstrom used to be a good value bike, not anymore.
In Europe I guess that this version of the V-Strom 1050 has "Travel Pack" in its name. It's priced at $14,800 here while the Africa Twin Adventure Sports without DCT is $17,900, so my conclusion is that there's some weird story with the V-Strom 1050 where you live. This would be insane pricing. Current is I believe too high already but still manageable if you don't go for a lot of extra stuff. In terms of value, yeah, I guess that for the same price, the Africa may seem like a better deal. But still - depending on what you want as the AT is not as good in the city and not as comfortable as the V-Strom. I spent some time with an Africa with DCT and a video followed: ruclips.net/video/n0udjV6EhkE/видео.html
@@VToldsMotoShow why would you compare it to the adventure and not the plain AT? The plain model costs around 15800 euros and VSTROM-XT around 15000 euros. Not a big price difference (at least in my country)
Well at near half the cost of a 1250 gs there are always compromise
Sure, yes. Yet it's good to know where the compromise is and if it's worth it. I'm sure that for some it can be.
So the front suspension is still bad. I had a 2003 and it was awful, undersprung and overdamped. The cure was Progressive suspension springs and 5 weight fork oil. Yes the engine had a narrow power band (4-6K) but I had a lot of fun over 70,000m. I replaced it with a 2015 Multistrada 1200S which quite simply was a POS. I dumped it after 8,000m. Now I have a 1290SAS which is simply the best Adventure bike I have owned. I consider them the way to go for older riders. At 74 I'm not sure how many more I will own.
I'd say that front suspension is still bad but a tad better. Definitely more quiet which I appreciate. I'm also wondering what 1290 SA is but no way to test any so far here in this part of Europe. All the best with your KTM!
With respect.. the softness and stability you talk off after 6000 plus miles in all weathers and shity UK roads dosnt show to me at all ...🤔...the reason i purchased bike was after demo ride.. the low speed handling ... tech .... the value for money.... sold it too me....but hey we are all different..
If you meant the soft front suspension and not enough stability when at very low speeds, then yes, this is up to some point personal judgement - like everything in fact. I base mine on comparing to other motorcycles in this and similar segments. "Shitty UK roads"? That was a good one. Let's hope this part improves for all of us. With today's raises in fuel prices, governments should have a lot of extra money to fix the roads. In theory of course...
After owning 3 V-Stroms in a row I couldn't see myself purchasing this new model. I hate the look, front suspension, windshield, cheap dash, less wind protection, headlight... Just not for me but others may like it. So, went for 1250GS, the bike I thought I will never buy. My love was always with V-Strom so it was sad separation.
Why so many? Did you crash them or what?
Hey, wind protection might be an improvement here. Still, the market is full with aftermarket solutions. Hard to change that front light though, so yeah, I get it and feel the same. @Gines, I guess: A V-Strom 1000 and a V-Strom 650 to experiment and then the newer V-Strom 1000.
@@bellezayverdad In last 38 years I owned 14 motorcycles and have never had more then one bike at the time.
on the vstrom650 you need to drive home, get off your bike, go upstairs, get your toolbox, than adjust the windshield, put the tools back and than you can ride on. its even worse! so the stupid solution is an upgrade at suzuki but i do think the oldschool design of the 1050 is badass!
Sounds like even more fun with the 650 then. Thanks for sharing your point of view on the design. I think that it's growing on me too, but mostly due to the color of this one and some other available options.
my biggest issue with the 1050 is that it was a complete waste of resources from a company that has very few, they built a bike for a part of the adv market that was literally dying off instead of focusing on the midsize market like anyone that can actually read the market did.
I wonder as I'd think that since it's sort of in between the 800/900 bikes and the 1200 ones, it could fill in the gap for so many who'd want something in between. There really isn't anything else for it to really compete. Also price-wise, it may be pretty good proposition. I guess that time will tell.
I didn't experience any instability at low speeds / jams.... Very comfortabe 4 me. Suspension also fine - 4 my use. The adj. of the windshield - well, they probably, HAD to do smt. extraordinary ☝☝🤣 The dash-screen - ok. I do like it. It's far better than on the Tracers 9 ( 2022 ) 🤮🤮 One thing that put me off - NO quickshifter avaliable ( even for the 2022 mod ) 😣 Maybe next year ?🤔 The price in Norway is over, overfarted. The local government ROBS clean, by sickest taxes, every one who wants to drive, or ride - anything !!! 🤬🤬
Oh yes, the dash is more enjoyable than the one in Tracer 9, I totally get it. I also wondered about the quickshifter which became an industry standard at least as an option but perhaps Suzuki isn't there yet. As for pricing, I don't even want to know how much they charge for it in Norway...
@@VToldsMotoShow
Actually it's No-Way ‼️☝️🤢
Sorry, you lost me at unstable at low speed...
No worries.
looks is subjective. But really can't understand you on this. I find BMW design to be hideous. At least this Vstrom has a retro muscular style aspects that is really cool. Much cleaner design than the busy BMWs
As you mentioned - fully subjective. I loved the first V-Strom 1000 though. Some people would say they were ugly. Same story I guess.
I think your review is a bit biased because you’re forcing your subjective opinion and bringing down an all around great bike. Yes, its fair to say its not a GS or a Multi but its still an awesome bike for the money. Can it get better with few updates? Of course! Anyhow, I like your channel but try to be a bit more objective and not focus on the things you don’t like so negatively. You’re going against the grain of what an honest review should be. Maybe choose your wording differently. Keep it up! 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing. My understanding of honest is that I'm not holding anything back and share exactly what I feel. It's also customer feedback for the manufacturer that I hope they appreciate even if it mentions imperfections. Otherwise we wouldn't go forward. So yeah, I feel like I'm sort of on a mission here. It all started with me not seeing a worthy replacement bike for mine in the category, so for my own good (and ours), I hope that manufacturers will consider the feedback. So, not being compensated in any way here allows me to say whatever I want with no external pressure. Love the sound? I say it. Don't like the seat, I also say it :). Is all of that subjective? It totally is, yet we're often similar in what we like and customer reviews are a super hot topic today. No better help that a recommendation/review of a trusted friend... Who I'm not exactly here but still not benefiting in any way from praising products, so at least 'honest'. I hope this shows my approach better. All the best!
key less system is the worst invention ever. cant understand how people like it!
I love it for eliminating a few tasks every time. Don't have to a) remember about it, b) take a key out upfront, c) insert it into ignition/keep the glove off, and then remove the key from ignition, remember to put it into a place where I'll have it easily available once getting back to the bike. That would be it for me I think.
My seat makes my ass bleed it's so hard. It won't run on 95 octane and even detonates under load with 98. It's spoked wheels are not required for this level of off road ability. It's a road bike thats too tall.
My VStrom took 91 like a 🏆 🤣 😆
Everything I've ever ridden runs just fine on 95. You don't need 98 unless you're driving a supercar I believe. In older V-Stroms like my former 1000, it would choke and sneeze regularly due to a too lean of a fuel map. Could've been fixed with a Power Commander but I never bothered installing it in the end. Add an aftermarket exhaust and a less restrictive air filter, the thing is breathing even better and then things become even worse. In other words: nothing to worry about.
@@VToldsMotoShow My 650 ran on anything, 1050 rattles even with 98 mid revs under load.
Too bad bmw has chinese engine
What isn't Chinese nowadays... On the other hand, it doesn't have to be bad just as it doesn't have to mean it's cheap anymore.
@@VToldsMotoShow true, however just check the ammount of recalls that Loncin engine has had in past few years
LOVE MY V STROM. I HAVE THE 650. ALSO HAVE SV 650 AND HAD THE SV 1000. SAME BIKE. LOVE THE POWER, BUT THE 1000 IS A BIT OVER KILL. HEAVIER, LESS MILES PER GALLON AND POWER YOU NEVER NEED. 650 IS MY FAVORITE. GREAT MILLEAGE. ALL THE POWER YOU NEED. HERE IS MY 650 V STROM REVIEW. ruclips.net/video/dQi1aR5SUkI/видео.html
Thanks for sharing. The 650 made a great name for itself over the years. Mileage used to be great on this bike since the beginning. I haven't ridden the current 650 but trusting your words, it would be awesome to have such low fuel consumption still in it.
That exhaust is one big dumb looking thing
At least it produces a fairly decent sound. I miss the good old two-muffler setup.
You are so absolutely right about the windshield. That any engineer could come up with such a silly solution in 2022 makes you go 😵💫🥴😢🤨🤪🥸😡🤬😱🫣.
On my 2007 i have the Madstad brackets, and on top of that, the Givi Airflow. Why dont they copy that. Im 1,89, and i am in no wind up to 120 kmh.
Madstad rocks!
Wtf is that windshield adjustment all about!? 🥲
Actually that's nothing... Since I've bought mine I've adjusted the windshield on its highest position and I'm able to ride the motorcycle at a 65 mph speed keeping my helmet opened and feeling just a soft nice wind at my eyes level.
It may be like @Mihai Mihai says that once you get your preferred position, it's like with a car seat - you don't change it every day. Right and that's true in many instances but the whole idea is simply a punch in the face for us I believe. Someone was drunk designing it and the person accepting it clearly didn't have time to send the concept back for fixing.
@@VToldsMotoShow Counterintuitive solutions can sometimes be a warning sign to a customer. This adjuster wasn’t designed with the rider in mind.
Agree with both of what you you’re saying though. Thanks for replying guys 🙏🏻
@@VToldsMotoShow No offence but based on your opinion Honda has the same issue with the new NT 1100 because it has almost the same windshield adjustment for security reasons. On the other hand, as long as I know the standard version of Africa Twin which is more expensive than the V Srom XT doesn't have an adjustable windscrean and I haven't heared to many complainings for that. I've seen a Puig aftermarket adjustment system but, even though the adjustment can be made without dismounting, the rider still have to stop the bike because he must use his both hands for making the adjustment.
I don't understand the complaining about it myself. I adjusted it to my liking and haven't touched it in over a year. I just appreciate the fact it's adjustable at all!