Been on v stroms for 16 years now. Two in the shed. Got a 2014 dl1000 with 92,000km on it. I love how the GS riders look down their nose at it. And KTM owners think the same. Well, I live on a dirt road inbetween a national park and national highway one. Perfect adventure bike territory. If you think you need a 184hp multistrada to ride on the back tracks, you probably pay more attention to what other people think about your bike, than what you actually need. The reality is, over 100hp and 100nm, is way more than you'll ever need in most situations to kill yourself or lose your license. I love mine. Not because I can't afford the "snob" brands, but because it's all the bike I'll ever need. Fuel economy is directly related to the throttle input. Sometimes mine isn't so great when I am feeling frisky. In Australia the distances are huge, and it's easy to "crib" a bit on the open road, and range suffers as a result. Not a complaint or a deal breaker. The biggest selling point for me is the bombproof reliability and ease of maintenance. Huge range of aftermarket farkles to suit every taste. I don't mind that everyone thinks Ewan Magregor and Charlie Boorman are expert adventure riders, (when they are actually BMW employees) and they copy them into a GS. I hardly ever see any of them on my road, coz it's actually dirt haha. Happy trails
I own a 2012 v strom. Most right ups don’t do it justice. 60 mpg average. I’m 50 50. Street dirt . 100 percent stock . I’ve owned 18 motorcycles in my life . Many different brands . I’m 58 and I see me riding my v strom when I’m 90 .. just a wonderful all round ride .
proud owner of a 2023 1050 non DE. Chose it after riding a tracer 9 GT, a 790 adv and duke and a 1290 ADV S. For me it was the best fit and after a year and 18.000 kms, I can't be happier.
Most of the Moto mags have given it lukewarm reviews. Comparing it to the BMW GS series and finding it lacking. Not mentioning the fact that you can buy a Suzuki 1050, load it up with all of the bells and whistles you really need and still have money in your pocket, as compared to a GS.
I’ve got one. F&*king great bike. Here in Australia the difference was $16k. I’ve put $1K of accessories, and will get the Suzuki Voyager luggage pack, $3K. I’m not even looking at a GS anymore… lol. Suzukis superpowers are a) build quality b) value and c) best gearboxes in the world. Had a Tenere, and the gearbox was pants.
So, the main reason why is because it is down on power compared to other bikes of its same cc in the sector. Want a fast V twin, super adventure 1290 or GT. Beside it being the least powerful 1000cc plus ADV, its perfect. We live in a world where 100 Horsepwoer is considered middleweight. Thus, ego takes over. I think comparing it to a tiger 900 and tenure 700 properly reveals its value. It's the top tier "middle weight" adv. I'd rather ride a 1290 though. Going from a ZX 14, it's hard moving to a much slower motorcycle.
Sold my 2018 vstrom about a year ago and now regret it, because only now I realise how good it really was. I’ve since had a KTM 790 adventure, a 1050 adventure, and I’m now driving a BMW 1200 GS. Although I like the other bikes, my plan is to go back to a V Strom for my long-term Bike because they are super for touring bulletproof handle great and our super comfortable. The engine is super smooth, which is one of the things I like best in a bike.
I love my 2020 1050XT. It's built well, has great performance and I never worry about it breaking down, because it's a Suzuki with a motor they've perfected over two decades. Only thing I changed was the muffler to give it more of a bark, and a taller Puig windscreen because if you're a little taller like me, the stock windscreen beats your head pretty badly at highway speed.
Good honest review about an extremely capable bike.I’ve owned many motorcycles of all types but not many are as capable and reliable!!I chose mine over many other adventure bikes and I could afford any of the others ! Great machine keep up the good work
I love my 2022 1050XT and deliberately bought this model instead of the 2023 DE. My previous bike had a TFT and it was a pain to use with setting very deep in the menus. Also, the 2023 has a tubed front and tubeless rear which was not what I wanted. I reckon the 2020 - 2022 model is the sweetspot for this bike.
I also thought that the DE was really weird with different type of tyres front and back. I was looking at upgrading to a 2020 1050 xt from my 650, but got warned that the clutch basket has issues, so I didn't switch. Think it's a bit sad Suzuki hasn't fixed this in 20 years, really has me looking at other options when it's time to upgrade. Wonder if they did anything with the issue in the DE model.
So, I embarked on phase two of my midlife crisis in September last year. Wanted a bike but was unsure about gears, so putting the horse before the cart I bought a Honda Forza 350 and booked my direct access. I was not interested in mega speed and it seemed to fit the bill. My instructor made me have a good look at myself 😁 and I did it on an SV650 and somehow passed with no faults (oh yea of little faith). I must say the Forza is great fun and to my great surprise my wife wanted to get on the back for rides out. This prompted a search around weight bearing capacity, luggage options etc etc. With that info in hand, and with some trepidation I purchased a 2nd hand 2021 1050XT - a month after passing my test. Only 2.5k miles on it and extras including bash plate, GIVI panniers, spots, heated grips, radiator grill and engine guards etc. A leap I know and a steep learning curve, however I have to say I am extremely happy with the decision. Using the rider modes has allowed me to get used to its power in a phased way, the cruise control is awesome, gear changes are smooth. The Hill hold function has helped me whilst getting used to clutch control and the pillion space is comfortable and generous. I've added a Shad box with back rest for the wife to feel more secure. It's made no difference to the handling. As my confidence and skill grows the bike has more to offer and I find myself wanting to ride it everyday. Yes it's heavy and the weight is up top - I've dropped it once whilst stationary (adverse camber) but we picked ourselves up, put our backs in to it and lifted it up and carried on. A minor scrape on the engine guard and that was it. I know there could be a million comments on here about A) buying such a big capacity bike with my level of experience/riding etc and B) The fact I have nothing really to compare it to - but as a new (and mature) rider I love it. It's not a hooligan but it's more than quick enough for any safe and legal ride. It shuttles me and the Mrs around with no trouble whatsoever and is very comfortable. Yes I love the look of BMW Gs's but I don't love the price and servicing - yes I can afford it but there are other things I want to spend my money on, particularly maybe a different sort of bike like a Bonneville or similar. The Vstrom is a good workhorse, it handles well enough for me and I have never felt scared on it - ok, a bit apprehensive when I first rode it but within a few miles I was totally at home. Maybe affordable, reliable and just good at keeping going (whilst keeping you safe with the IMU etc) might not be sexy or ultra marketable but it works for me and at just over £8k a year old with low mileage is very good value for money. My pal has just bought a Harley Davidson Pan America and funnily enough we get to the same places at the same time........
Congratulations you made wisest decision of your motorcycle riding career. I used to own 2018 VStrom 1000XT w/5axis IMU and now 2022 Versys 1000 SE w/6axis IMU that most certainly saved my wife and I from serious injury or death due to stupid, elderly motorist. Riding any lower priced budget motorcycle is far more hazardous than one with IMU. The liter plus bikes have much higher quality brakes and suspension that work better in emergency situation. Riding a motorcycle without 6 axis IMU is analogous to driving car without seat belt, air bags, or anti-lock brakes. The purists or those with thin wallets and less to live for may say otherwise because they are convinced they have superhuman sensory skills. As a well-seasoned rider getting up in age I know much better and survived a potential tragedy to talk about it.
@@kannermwNot convinced you need all the tech. ABS of course. I use traction control but tbh I hardly ever see either engaging. I'm not an aggressive rider (know your limits), but I wonder if all the tech is making people sloppier riders?, if someone's tech is blipping at them most rides then maybe they're not doing it right.🤷♂️
I have the cash in the bank but I couldn't justify a GS because A) it's a waste of money/bad value and B) it is sooo cliché. Who wants to be yet another 'cookie cutter' I had to have the ultimate machine because...... I'm the alpha male, but I don't take it off road because I'm not interested in that but I absolutely could take it the ends of the earth.....🤔 You sure about that?
@@balladofbalfe8914 Your argument lacks credibility. There will ALWAYS be riders and drivers with average and below average skills. Cars have traction and stability control and it makes them safer for average or poorer drivers. More skilled drivers or riders still benefit in unexpected conditions. A high percentage of motorcycle accidents are inexperienced riders and experienced riders who make mistakes. Who wouldn't want that extra measure of safety vs. potenial death, serious injury, or disability? It seems foolish to suggest that be your punishment for making a mistake. The intrusion this new tech provides in normal riding is negligible. I've hit a patch of unseen sand or oil when attempting to accelerate out of roundabouts and felt a momentary interuption of power as a friendly reminder. On an older bike without such tech I had one of those oh shit moments on wet striping while turning left at an intersection. I reacted properly but thought of what could've happened had I not? Living to ride another day is way better than the alternatives.
@@balladofbalfe8914 I would purchase GS tomorrow because they are the best if it werent for BMW's history of poorer reliabilty and high cost of repairs. Essentially 10-15% better performance to me is not enough incentive to offset more unpredictable higher cost of ownership of at least 20% and the greater likelihood of unexpected failure in the middle of nowhere.
I did order the regular 1050 for 2023 and it should come in few weeks. With quickshifter and TFT I see it as a pretty perfect bike since I love Suzuki Vtwin. My last one was 2018 1000 XT. Last year it was the new KTM 1290 SAS for 6 months before it got stolen. I dont mind less power with Suzuki, the engine has great sound character with Akrapovic.
I bought the 2020 model, orange and white and the reason for mine yet its reliability and make a good road presence and a touring bike and the fact that it has gear driven camps is a plus
The Stroms are great bikes, Vee and Wee. Personally the 650 suits me better, it has enough power for me riding solo and i prefer its lighter weight and better mpg. But if i rode two up the 1050 would probably interest me more.
Good video Dan and although looks are subjective with this bike, I agree with you about that lovely sounding engine. Along with updates in 2023 it’s now not a bad bike at all. Good to see you back Dan, much missed.
Seems like a great value alternative to the usual adventure bikes you see everywhere nowadays. Shame on the old fashioned display, but again at this price it's fine. Another great review Dan, fair and unbiased as usual. As always, flawless editing and great production on the video. Look forward to more content 👍
How is it great value? it's as expensive as every other bike and it's still got the clunky clutch the DL 1000's always had. Spoked wheels belong on horse carts.
@Road Warrior compared to something like the BMW GS, Ducati Multistrada or KTM Adventure, it represents good value. Perhaps the Honda Aftrica twin and Yamaha Tenere were better comparisons? I think it still provides good value though, and it's nice to have different options to choose from.
Same. I Love the torque and handling. Love also how I ride it much slower than my previous bike (MT09SP) but enjoy each ride much, much more. I dont have to rev it or push it to its (my) limits to have fun. You feel in power without showing it.
Now the 2023 model offers a really complete package with the quickshifter and the TFT display. :) For most riders it was more than OK even before, so this model that you rode in this video. A great bike overall. Got my like.
I just traded my Tenere on this. Best thing I ever did. Only immediate fix is the turbulence on my Arai XD4.. I’m doing more road and gravel, and this thing destroys the Tenere for that purpose. Also, Suzuki needs to teach Yamaha how to build a first rate gearbox. I test rode a Multistrada V2S, and I’m glad I didn’t spend the extra. Suzuki needs to teach Ducati how to build a smooth tractable engine, and gearbox lol.
I bought a 2020 1050XT leftover last year (Great Deal on it) and really like the machine except for the seat. For the price I have a touring machine that will do a bit of off road, and a road machine that does the twisties without a problem. Great Review, and I agree with you on "A" Mode. The power delivery is incredible.
No the stock seat is no good at all on this bike. It is narrow and makes you slide to the front. I have the 2020xt adventure. Got a Sargent seat for it and total comfort now.
didnt set out to buy a dl1000xt in 2018. but i made a list of requirements for my next bike, and the suzuki ticked more of those boxes then any other bike(except looks, it aint pretty, and a 18inch front wheel woulda been perfect) no regrets, its a keeper fantastic road bike
I think too many people are influenced by spec sheets. I like many wanted more power from sportsbikes some years back, they ended up getting it and then they lost their real world fun. If I was in the market for a good do it all bike, I'd probably get one of these....I've got 4 bikes already though !
@@Englishbikerdan Great to hear buddy just getting back on my feet after falling from a roof last week so the video today was a welcome little rest from the world Take care and stay welll
One of the most overlooked big adventure bikes I think. I think they are really good bikes at a very fair price.....Perhaps its the old skool looks that put people off.
thanks for this agree with all you say about this bike i bought a used one 2022 low mileage ackrapovk can, and its a very nice machine much misunderstood bike the screen in my experience is you adjust it once and forget about it. ATB
I like it as its capablle and cheap. A Honda dealer near me has a 2022 XT model with 6k miles and luggage for a shade over £7k. Thats cheaper than some Chinese equivalents. 3 year warranty too.
Absolutely no reason to skip this bike. In India we have SX 250, after trying KTM 250ADV and Himalayan I am convinced that Japanese do something with their bike, their refinement is top notch. Although here it's Single cylinder 250cc bike it's still a good pick.
@@perropegado matlab yeh bike naa kharidne ke koi reason nahi hai. Maine ADV 390/250 aur Himalayan dono chalaye hai but ispe Jo refinement hai woh alag hi hai. Iske vahej se maine baki dono bikes options se hata diye.
Welcome back Dan. I can't put my finger on why, but even when I'm not particularly interested in the bike your reviewing, your vids are very watchable.
I would say the screen adjuster on the front is a good safety point, i wouldn't want to start adjusting my screen whilst riding, and the temptation would be there if i could do it whilst sat on the bike
I think this bike are brilliant, and has no problem doing the same job as its bigger competitors. However l wish the on road version(not the DE) would get shaft drive.. Guess my tiger will go for a new dl1000/1050 soon.
Nice vid & all good points but the problem is that the Suzuki isn't very cool or desirable. It's for those on a budget & that's just not sexy. Suzuki give you what you need but not always want you want & there are often compromises. Nonetheless they make great bikes & are still my favourite manufacturer as I think they're generally the best value for money, especially secondhand.
TBH, while I like the styling of this type of bikes, I find them all kinda ugly. I'd put the KTM SA1290 and...mine which the exact same one as in this video as my favs in this category. The GS or Multistrada are not even close (lookwise) and the Triumph is just meh..
Basing your primary buying decisions on coolness/looks is a path to disappointment or disillusionment. Performance , comfort, reliabilty, value, and cost of ownership should be primary goals. Lots of former Euro bike riders who have learned the hard way having part of their wallet stolen.
Because most bikers drive to have fun. The 1050 maybe a good motorcycle but there are lot's of bikes that are more fun to drive.It's comfy an pleasant on motorways, but that is every car too. I bought one of those and sold it almost instantly. The engine is liveless, the bike weights ~250kg's.
U have to understand what suzuki does. It builds bikes that are cheap to buy cheap to own and cheap to maintain. I'd take a suzuki v strom over a gs any day. It's taken them 20 years to finally offer looks handling reliability and decent spec. But it was never a bad bike. Just ugly. It looks much better than a gs and it will last longer
I put 30K miles on the XT: If you take the time to setup the suspension you can surprise quite a few sports bikes. I now have 1290S and the electronic suspension is only on par with the manual v-strom suspension. In summary: I never had the XT wallow, wobble or bounce out of shape, even cranked over and hitting a Welsh pothole- damn fine tourer.
Nice to have you back! I bought my first bike , 2019 Honda CB650R, based on your review. I’m now looking at some touring bikes. Considering Yamaha Tracer 9 GT, BMW F900XR and Triumph 900 GT Pro. Which would you recommend and why? Keep content coming!
Thanks, it's good to be back! Out of those three, I've not ridden the new Yamaha, so I can't comment on that one. However, the Triumph 900 GT Pro would be my pick!
I went from and SV650 to the F900XR after 14 years. The riding experience is like nothing before, relaxed yet plenty of fun as you climb up the rev gauge!!
I tried a 650 and a 1000 of the previous gen, and was surprised to prefer the engine of the 650. Was just more fun, the bigger engine had more torque but somehow it felt flatter...
This is one Awesome Bike for sure, i only test ride the old version, after some time you figure out all you need is 3'ed gear on this brilliant bike ;-) Windscreen thing, i would recommend a bigger screen insted of putting one on top ;-)
Good value bikes, and the new 2023 ones will be a very good value bike with the extra bits and bobs on them. Can see the sales rising with those. Disappointed to see they haven't done anything with that stupid screen adjuster though.
Enjoyed my first viewing of this video so watched it again. My only criticism and one of my pet hates - Americans use 'levvers', so say 'levverage', the UK and England use 'leavers', which becomes 'leaverage'.....not 'levverage'......please Dan, you're English, be proud to use your 'leavers' for better 'leaverage' 🙂
He's back! I'm still waiting for update on the SV650 (selfish I know, but I am looking to get a middleweight for the welsh lanes) and cannot decide which one
What is the leg room like. I'm about 6'2" and own a 2005 GS with 100,000 miles and I'm looking to replace. One of the things I like with the GS is the room. Especially the leg room. I really like the 1050.
I tested the regular V Strom 1050 today. Initially I didn't like it but I changed the rider mode and it transformed the bike the middle setting is spot on. It's a bit of a thumper but overall I enjoyed it.
Amazing the TL1000S was £7,999 at launch. At it was a lot of bike back then. To much for some people. I still can't believe anything under £10k now is a budget option.
Because it is rather weak,the powerband begins above 4-5K rpm and it is veeery long geared with a 17/41 sprocket combo.On top of it it is heavy at 250 kilos.Other than all these it is excellent and i might have kept mine,but i knew i would have to dole out serious cash to make it less meh and even then it would be just an ok mega adv.Sold it after 8 months.
Interesting comment, as I can't say I felt it was underpowered or needed thrashing. V-Twins are famously grunty and this engine is the grandfather of V-Twins. I guess we all like what we like. Cheers!
@@Englishbikerdan i like very much v2's but the big Strom was completely different than my SV Mk3,which i kept btw. It was weak down low where precisely i expected and indeed wanted it to be. I wanted a long legged and comfortable all rounder with a knack for twisty ,climbing mountain roads(the ones Suzuki shows in the brochure!),what i got was a highway locomotive and not much else.
Who the hell cares about weight of 250 Kg >1000 cc displacement bike? Anyone who thinks these heavy bikes can be riden seriously off-road is kidding themselves or damaging a very expensive motorcycle. What did you buy?
@@kannermw i didn't buy it for off road use,if your comment refers to me. Only as a semisports tourer that is capable to negotiate the odd bump,hole or small unpaved pass in a mountainous terrain. 250 Kg is too much,i agree,for any bike,off road or not. The biggest problem though was not that. I had no issue with the Strom's weight,neither with it's size,which i consider logical and absolutely manageable. It was it's sluggish performance in it's supposed home turf that killed it for me.
I am 5'8 with 30 in-seam, I wear my boots and try this bike recently I barely touch the ground both feet. Stock seat up to 850mm, I have confidence to drive this big adventure bike, But the seat you have there is it stock?
Dan, tell us: if you were to pick this one or the GSX-S1000 GT for say on road travels + town riding only (so no off-road) - which one would you pick and why?
I test drove the 2023 vstrom 1050 de adventure and liked it but it was too tall for me. Bought the 2023 Vstrom 800 de adventure instead just because it was a little lower.
Not the most beautiful bike but it's a great fit for tall riders. And dont forget the cost of ownership. 12000 km service €344,00. No issues , just twist the throttle and enjoy the ride. Nice review👍
I think it's because the original V Twin was such a great engine and made such a great bike that people were like " if it isn't broken don't fix it " , all they had to do was build a bigger V Twin . You can't call the bike a " V-Strom " if it hasn't got a V Twin Engine ....................
How would you get to the screen adjuster lock on the inside?? It'd be too dangerous and you'd end up knocking your phone off or worse.You only need to adjust it once for you and leave it alone..no big deal and really not worth mentioning, honestly the things that folk complain about these days is quite staggering. as for TFT screens...??
Many other manufacturers manage it with no problems. It's good to be able to adjust on the go, as wind buffeting can differ at different speeds. You are complaining about complaining, which is amusing. 😂
So you're going to be constantly changing the height of the screen as you accelerate and decelerate? That means removing your phone from it's holder , removing the phone holder , all with your left hand wearing a glove most likely , adjusting your screen so you don't get buffeting and then reach into your pocket with gloved hand on to remove the phone holder , drop your phone on the road and watch it smash into pieces...etc etc... or you have the lock infront and you'll be moaning that there's nowhere to put your phone.
Two main reasons it doesn't sell that well imo: 1) The specs haven't really changed since 2014 other than some new fangled electrical whizbangery. You can get a V-Strom 1000 that essentially rides the same (other than the cable throttle) for less than half the price, and they just so happen to be pretty reliable bikes too! 2) a V-Strom 650 is still more than enough bike, is lighter, cheaper to buy and has better fuel economy. There's nothing really the 1050 will do that the 650 won't.
This type of false justification is repeated by those who can't afford the 1050. I had a 2013 Vstrom 650 and now have a 2018 VStrom 1000. The 1000 and now 1050 is better in so many ways that your statement makes no sense other than price. Vstrom 1050 has cruise control, 6 axis IMU for increaed safety (what is avoiding or minimizing risk of a serious accident worth?), hydraulic actuated slipper clutch, > 40% more torque and HP, much better suspension and brakes, adjustable levers and windscreen, better electrical output and more reliable voltage regulator/magneto design, in 2023 quick-shifter, ride modes, TFT etc.. New VStrom 650 might have closed gap but price increased considerably. The real reason 1050 doesn't sell is due to greater competition of KTM, Honda, BMW, Yamaha, Triumph, and Kawasaki. Suzuki needs to increase VStrom displacement to 1200cc to get power up 20% and add more premium options for touring and steal share from BMW.
@@kannermw I think you've missed the point - the appeal of the V-Strom has generally been that it's cheaper than the competition, it's never been the most powerful/agile of the bunch. Most V-Strom owning types are content to buy used, people who are going to buy a new 1050 for £12-14k will just stump up the extra for a BMW, Triumph or KTM. The cheapskate crowd will get a 650, it will do everything the 1050 does for less.
@Geshmaal The 650 is not as good for 2-up and no-where near as fun to ride. It is for the cheapskates and I was that person 10 years ago just getting back into motorcycling after a 30 year hiatus. With the 1000/1050 you just twist the grip and it takes off without exercising the gearbox. Passing is way faster and safer. I purchased a 2022 Versys 1000 this past fall because it gave me more comfort and power. After 25K+ miles on the 2018 1000XT (no regrets) the cost to replace with 1050 has risen about 25 percent. They need to offer touring version with adaptive suspension and 20 % more power. Instead Suzuki tries to lever up price into premium category and not deliver on key metric and that is performance.
@Boris J I have a penchant for roundabouts that have clear 4-way visibility and no obstructions. There you can exercise your inner hooligan to get the occasional pedal scrape even at relatively lower and safer speeds. It is there you can feel how such systems are truly amazing. Of all things you can buy in a motorcycle an IMU represents less than $1,500 in added cost. Compared to even a minor incident that could cause significant damage to bike or serious injury with pain and suffering, disability, or death IMU is most likely the best feature in terms of value to have in any modern motorcycle. To those that disagree I would state what is your life or personal wellness and ability to work including lost income during recovery worth if the risk of such could be reduced by up to 50% (ABS alone statistically reduces incidents by 25%)? It is not unrealistic to project cornering ABS and traction control would double this number to 50%. Placing some tangible numbers on this. In U.S, every year 1% of registered riders are involved in a crash. The average cost of an accident is $185K. Estimated accident risk reduction is 50%. 1% x $185K x 50% = $925/year. A payback of less then two years and a portion of the depreciated value of this system recovered in any resale. Most certainly the naysayers will state that $185K is not actual individual out-of-pocket cost. But who really thinks $185K will make you whole to what you were before an accident? The crux of the matter is these costs represent a greater burden placed on society because of someone's blind ignorance of risk and over-confidence in their skills to overcome them. On this basis alone it is simply a no-brainer tech except for those who think they can evade the laws of Darwin.😂 I am fiscal conservative and sensitive to government over-reach but this technology is now so cost effective that ABS should be mandatory on all street motorcycles and 6 axis IMU mandatory on all multi-cylinder motorcycles or over 650 cc displacement. If you can't afford this minimal added cost then you really can't afford to ride a motorcycle.
Don't get why everyone is complaining about the windshield adjustment? I mean who cares? I don't get why they are "adjustable" anyway. I mean I like being out of the wind. All they way up and done. No bugs no wind no buffeting no adjustment the end.
Probably because people have different experiences to you. If it works for you, great. We are all different shapes, heights and experience things differently.
In my experience, it just doesn’t reach the first tier in Adventure Bike market. There are myriad premium options and the V Storm doesn’t have the off-road bias of the Desert X, KTM 890 or the Norden. Maybe not even of the Africa Twin.
I'd say it could do everything those bikes can, this version just doesn't have the 21" front. But the new DE does. I think for serious off road it would probably struggle, but then that's beyond my skill level anyway.
Think the V Strom suffers from an image problem. It's just not an aspirational bike. It's good at what it does. Dependable, reliable but do people see their bikes as a reflection of their personalities? Thanks for a reminder of what a British summer looks like.
@@Englishbikerdan Perhaps if a couple of guys like Charley and Ewan took them on an around the world trip??? I suspect they would keep going where a modern farked up GS might not
From my perspective once you get into the realm of VStrom 1050 pricing you are closer to higher spec options from BMW, Triumph, Harley, Kawasaki, and Honda. Might as well spend $2,500 more for adaptive suspension and other niceties like more power cause you are already into premium level motorcycle price range.
Been on v stroms for 16 years now. Two in the shed. Got a 2014 dl1000 with 92,000km on it. I love how the GS riders look down their nose at it. And KTM owners think the same. Well, I live on a dirt road inbetween a national park and national highway one. Perfect adventure bike territory. If you think you need a 184hp multistrada to ride on the back tracks, you probably pay more attention to what other people think about your bike, than what you actually need. The reality is, over 100hp and 100nm, is way more than you'll ever need in most situations to kill yourself or lose your license. I love mine. Not because I can't afford the "snob" brands, but because it's all the bike I'll ever need. Fuel economy is directly related to the throttle input. Sometimes mine isn't so great when I am feeling frisky. In Australia the distances are huge, and it's easy to "crib" a bit on the open road, and range suffers as a result. Not a complaint or a deal breaker. The biggest selling point for me is the bombproof reliability and ease of maintenance. Huge range of aftermarket farkles to suit every taste. I don't mind that everyone thinks Ewan Magregor and Charlie Boorman are expert adventure riders, (when they are actually BMW employees) and they copy them into a GS. I hardly ever see any of them on my road, coz it's actually dirt haha. Happy trails
I own a 2012 v strom. Most right ups don’t do it justice. 60 mpg average. I’m 50 50. Street dirt . 100 percent stock . I’ve owned 18 motorcycles in my life . Many different brands . I’m 58 and I see me riding my v strom when I’m 90 .. just a wonderful all round ride .
proud owner of a 2023 1050 non DE. Chose it after riding a tracer 9 GT, a 790 adv and duke and a 1290 ADV S. For me it was the best fit and after a year and 18.000 kms, I can't be happier.
The best most comfortable bike ive ever owned a first class tourer .
Most of the Moto mags have given it lukewarm reviews. Comparing it to the BMW GS series and finding it lacking. Not mentioning the fact that you can buy a Suzuki 1050, load it up with all of the bells and whistles you really need and still have money in your pocket, as compared to a GS.
I’ve got one. F&*king great bike. Here in Australia the difference was $16k. I’ve put $1K of accessories, and will get the Suzuki Voyager luggage pack, $3K. I’m not even looking at a GS anymore… lol. Suzukis superpowers are a) build quality b) value and c) best gearboxes in the world. Had a Tenere, and the gearbox was pants.
And mags are subservient to their advertisers… I take their view with a grain of salt, lol
@@martyn_g a lot of the writers are wanna be racers who couldn’t cut it at the professional level. Same as the car magazines.
So, the main reason why is because it is down on power compared to other bikes of its same cc in the sector.
Want a fast V twin, super adventure 1290 or GT.
Beside it being the least powerful 1000cc plus ADV, its perfect.
We live in a world where 100 Horsepwoer is considered middleweight.
Thus, ego takes over.
I think comparing it to a tiger 900 and tenure 700 properly reveals its value.
It's the top tier "middle weight" adv.
I'd rather ride a 1290 though. Going from a ZX 14, it's hard moving to a much slower motorcycle.
I’ve got one, it’s a great all rounder !
I have a lot of experience and amusingly some others in our group with BMW s1000rr can’t keep up 😂😂😂😉😉😉
Sold my 2018 vstrom about a year ago and now regret it, because only now I realise how good it really was. I’ve since had a KTM 790 adventure, a 1050 adventure, and I’m now driving a BMW 1200 GS. Although I like the other bikes, my plan is to go back to a V Strom for my long-term Bike because they are super for touring bulletproof handle great and our super comfortable. The engine is super smooth, which is one of the things I like best in a bike.
Yep, they are fantastic do it all bikes!
I love my 2020 1050XT. It's built well, has great performance and I never worry about it breaking down, because it's a Suzuki with a motor they've perfected over two decades. Only thing I changed was the muffler to give it more of a bark, and a taller Puig windscreen because if you're a little taller like me, the stock windscreen beats your head pretty badly at highway speed.
I added a puig rear hugger and wind deflector 👍
I bought the 2022 and in 53 years of riding it is my absolute favorite motorcycle
Good honest review about an extremely capable bike.I’ve owned many motorcycles of all types but not many are as capable and reliable!!I chose mine over many other adventure bikes and I could afford any of the others ! Great machine keep up the good work
I love my 2022 1050XT and deliberately bought this model instead of the 2023 DE.
My previous bike had a TFT and it was a pain to use with setting very deep in the menus.
Also, the 2023 has a tubed front and tubeless rear which was not what I wanted.
I reckon the 2020 - 2022 model is the sweetspot for this bike.
Is hving a tubed wheel bad?? Im looking to buy the DE for moto camping and touring.
I agree totally , I also bought 2022 XT over a DE
Same here, totally agree , I also bought 2022 XT over a DE
@@tkurban tubed wheels can't just be plugged and go so it's more convenient
I also thought that the DE was really weird with different type of tyres front and back.
I was looking at upgrading to a 2020 1050 xt from my 650, but got warned that the clutch basket has issues, so I didn't switch. Think it's a bit sad Suzuki hasn't fixed this in 20 years, really has me looking at other options when it's time to upgrade.
Wonder if they did anything with the issue in the DE model.
So, I embarked on phase two of my midlife crisis in September last year. Wanted a bike but was unsure about gears, so putting the horse before the cart I bought a Honda Forza 350 and booked my direct access. I was not interested in mega speed and it seemed to fit the bill. My instructor made me have a good look at myself 😁 and I did it on an SV650 and somehow passed with no faults (oh yea of little faith). I must say the Forza is great fun and to my great surprise my wife wanted to get on the back for rides out. This prompted a search around weight bearing capacity, luggage options etc etc. With that info in hand, and with some trepidation I purchased a 2nd hand 2021 1050XT - a month after passing my test. Only 2.5k miles on it and extras including bash plate, GIVI panniers, spots, heated grips, radiator grill and engine guards etc. A leap I know and a steep learning curve, however I have to say I am extremely happy with the decision. Using the rider modes has allowed me to get used to its power in a phased way, the cruise control is awesome, gear changes are smooth. The Hill hold function has helped me whilst getting used to clutch control and the pillion space is comfortable and generous. I've added a Shad box with back rest for the wife to feel more secure. It's made no difference to the handling. As my confidence and skill grows the bike has more to offer and I find myself wanting to ride it everyday. Yes it's heavy and the weight is up top - I've dropped it once whilst stationary (adverse camber) but we picked ourselves up, put our backs in to it and lifted it up and carried on. A minor scrape on the engine guard and that was it. I know there could be a million comments on here about A) buying such a big capacity bike with my level of experience/riding etc and B) The fact I have nothing really to compare it to - but as a new (and mature) rider I love it. It's not a hooligan but it's more than quick enough for any safe and legal ride. It shuttles me and the Mrs around with no trouble whatsoever and is very comfortable. Yes I love the look of BMW Gs's but I don't love the price and servicing - yes I can afford it but there are other things I want to spend my money on, particularly maybe a different sort of bike like a Bonneville or similar. The Vstrom is a good workhorse, it handles well enough for me and I have never felt scared on it - ok, a bit apprehensive when I first rode it but within a few miles I was totally at home. Maybe affordable, reliable and just good at keeping going (whilst keeping you safe with the IMU etc) might not be sexy or ultra marketable but it works for me and at just over £8k a year old with low mileage is very good value for money. My pal has just bought a Harley Davidson Pan America and funnily enough we get to the same places at the same time........
Congratulations you made wisest decision of your motorcycle riding career. I used to own 2018 VStrom 1000XT w/5axis IMU and now 2022 Versys 1000 SE w/6axis IMU that most certainly saved my wife and I from serious injury or death due to stupid, elderly motorist. Riding any lower priced budget motorcycle is far more hazardous than one with IMU. The liter plus bikes have much higher quality brakes and suspension that work better in emergency situation. Riding a motorcycle without 6 axis IMU is analogous to driving car without seat belt, air bags, or anti-lock brakes. The purists or those with thin wallets and less to live for may say otherwise because they are convinced they have superhuman sensory skills. As a well-seasoned rider getting up in age I know much better and survived a potential tragedy to talk about it.
@@kannermwNot convinced you need all the tech. ABS of course. I use traction control but tbh I hardly ever see either engaging. I'm not an aggressive rider (know your limits), but I wonder if all the tech is making people sloppier riders?, if someone's tech is blipping at them most rides then maybe they're not doing it right.🤷♂️
I have the cash in the bank but I couldn't justify a GS because A) it's a waste of money/bad value and B) it is sooo cliché.
Who wants to be yet another 'cookie cutter' I had to have the ultimate machine because...... I'm the alpha male, but I don't take it off road because I'm not interested in that but I absolutely could take it the ends of the earth.....🤔 You sure about that?
@@balladofbalfe8914 Your argument lacks credibility. There will ALWAYS be riders and drivers with average and below average skills. Cars have traction and stability control and it makes them safer for average or poorer drivers. More skilled drivers or riders still benefit in unexpected conditions.
A high percentage of motorcycle accidents are inexperienced riders and experienced riders who make mistakes. Who wouldn't want that extra measure of safety vs. potenial death, serious injury, or disability? It seems foolish to suggest that be your punishment for making a mistake. The intrusion this new tech provides in normal riding is negligible.
I've hit a patch of unseen sand or oil when attempting to accelerate out of roundabouts and felt a momentary interuption of power as a friendly reminder. On an older bike without such tech I had one of those oh shit moments on wet striping while turning left at an intersection. I reacted properly but thought of what could've happened had I not? Living to ride another day is way better than the alternatives.
@@balladofbalfe8914 I would purchase GS tomorrow because they are the best if it werent for BMW's history of poorer reliabilty and high cost of repairs. Essentially 10-15% better performance to me is not enough incentive to offset more unpredictable higher cost of ownership of at least 20% and the greater likelihood of unexpected failure in the middle of nowhere.
Great bikes. On my second one, an '18. Did a few small upgrades (suspension bits and tires) and it's a VERY capable, reliable, and fun all-rounder.
I did order the regular 1050 for 2023 and it should come in few weeks. With quickshifter and TFT I see it as a pretty perfect bike since I love Suzuki Vtwin. My last one was 2018 1000 XT. Last year it was the new KTM 1290 SAS for 6 months before it got stolen. I dont mind less power with Suzuki, the engine has great sound character with Akrapovic.
I bought the 2020 model, orange and white and the reason for mine yet its reliability and make a good road presence and a touring bike and the fact that it has gear driven camps is a plus
The Stroms are great bikes, Vee and Wee. Personally the 650 suits me better, it has enough power for me riding solo and i prefer its lighter weight and better mpg. But if i rode two up the 1050 would probably interest me more.
Good video Dan and although looks are subjective with this bike, I agree with you about that lovely sounding engine. Along with updates in 2023 it’s now not a bad bike at all. Good to see you back Dan, much missed.
Thanks for watching, feels good to be back!
@@Englishbikerdan Glad to read that!! Great video!
Good to see you back with another fair review on the bike.
Thanks Colin! 😊
Seems like a great value alternative to the usual adventure bikes you see everywhere nowadays. Shame on the old fashioned display, but again at this price it's fine. Another great review Dan, fair and unbiased as usual. As always, flawless editing and great production on the video. Look forward to more content 👍
Thanks Colin, lots more coming!
I'd prefer analog gages myself. The panel on the Hayabusa is gorgeous!
How is it great value? it's as expensive as every other bike and it's still got the clunky clutch the DL 1000's always had.
Spoked wheels belong on horse carts.
@Road Warrior compared to something like the BMW GS, Ducati Multistrada or KTM Adventure, it represents good value. Perhaps the Honda Aftrica twin and Yamaha Tenere were better comparisons? I think it still provides good value though, and it's nice to have different options to choose from.
That's my bike, in the yellow too. Love it, just complete joy to ride.
Same. I Love the torque and handling. Love also how I ride it much slower than my previous bike (MT09SP) but enjoy each ride much, much more. I dont have to rev it or push it to its (my) limits to have fun. You feel in power without showing it.
Now the 2023 model offers a really complete package with the quickshifter and the TFT display. :) For most riders it was more than OK even before, so this model that you rode in this video. A great bike overall. Got my like.
Good to see you back with another excellent review Dan. Keep well, and look forward to many more like it.
Thank you! Lots more coming! 👍
I just traded my Tenere on this. Best thing I ever did. Only immediate fix is the turbulence on my Arai XD4.. I’m doing more road and gravel, and this thing destroys the Tenere for that purpose. Also, Suzuki needs to teach Yamaha how to build a first rate gearbox. I test rode a Multistrada V2S, and I’m glad I didn’t spend the extra. Suzuki needs to teach Ducati how to build a smooth tractable engine, and gearbox lol.
I bought a 2020 1050XT leftover last year (Great Deal on it) and really like the machine except for the seat. For the price I have a touring machine that will do a bit of off road, and a road machine that does the twisties without a problem. Great Review, and I agree with you on "A" Mode. The power delivery is incredible.
Nobody mentions seat comfort...did you not find seat comfortable
No the stock seat is no good at all on this bike. It is narrow and makes you slide to the front. I have the 2020xt adventure. Got a Sargent seat for it and total comfort now.
Add a full exhaust and a woolich tune. The low down v twin torque is restored! Hp lands about 105 at the rear.
Glad to see you back Dan .
Thanks Stuart!
didnt set out to buy a dl1000xt in 2018. but i made a list of requirements for my next bike, and the suzuki ticked more of those boxes then any other bike(except looks, it aint pretty, and a 18inch front wheel woulda been perfect) no regrets, its a keeper fantastic road bike
Great to hear you're enjoying it.
EnglishBikerDan posts a new bike review vid, my day improves considerably. Nice to see you back here Dan. 👍
Thanks mate, appreciate that! 😊
Yeah a new video!! Excellent review!! great motorcycle!! I keep learning to Drive one of this. Cheers!
Yeah I agree about the 6 axis thing. It would be nice to have but I certainly haven’t felt like it was essential on my old VFR..
I think too many people are influenced by spec sheets. I like many wanted more power from sportsbikes some years back, they ended up getting it and then they lost their real world fun. If I was in the market for a good do it all bike, I'd probably get one of these....I've got 4 bikes already though !
Great review as always and great to have you back I hope you are good and keeping well
Thanks Stephen, I am doing well thanks and hope you are too!
@@Englishbikerdan Great to hear buddy just getting back on my feet after falling from a roof last week so the video today was a welcome little rest from the world Take care and stay welll
Great review, cheers Dan.
I think it's too much of a sensible choice for most people! Well, I bought one and I love it! Maybe I'm just getting old and want something practical.
They are missing out. Glad you got one!
Welcome back!
Thank you!
One of the most overlooked big adventure bikes I think. I think they are really good bikes at a very fair price.....Perhaps its the old skool looks that put people off.
Probably also the 1290ktm. More power, larger v twin. Also better marketing XD
Good to see you back!
Welcome back Dan. Hope you're doing well
Thanks Vince, getting there slowly but on the up! 👍
I absolutely love mine , even the dash. Who needs a quick shifter anyway, it’s not a racing bike.
thanks for this agree with all you say about this bike i bought a used one 2022 low mileage ackrapovk can, and its a very nice machine much misunderstood bike the screen in my experience is you adjust it once and forget about it. ATB
Glad to see you Dan.
Glad to be seen, thank you! 😊
I like it as its capablle and cheap. A Honda dealer near me has a 2022 XT model with 6k miles and luggage for a shade over £7k. Thats cheaper than some Chinese equivalents. 3 year warranty too.
Nice to see you back Dan!
Thanks, it's good to be back!
The sound reminds me of our SV1000 we used to have 😊
Good to see you back.... Great review as always.
Thanks Ivor! 👍
Absolutely no reason to skip this bike. In India we have SX 250, after trying KTM 250ADV and Himalayan I am convinced that Japanese do something with their bike, their refinement is top notch. Although here it's Single cylinder 250cc bike it's still a good pick.
Please in hindi!!
@@perropegado matlab yeh bike naa kharidne ke koi reason nahi hai. Maine ADV 390/250 aur Himalayan dono chalaye hai but ispe Jo refinement hai woh alag hi hai. Iske vahej se maine baki dono bikes options se hata diye.
Welcome back Dan. I can't put my finger on why, but even when I'm not particularly interested in the bike your reviewing, your vids are very watchable.
Thanks Ross, appreciate it!
The suzuki stigma..... many would only consider them as second hand bikes. I had a gsxs1000 and loved it. Bought it used at a great price.
I would say the screen adjuster on the front is a good safety point, i wouldn't want to start adjusting my screen whilst riding, and the temptation would be there if i could do it whilst sat on the bike
Totally agree
Been away from bike for quite a while but do love the look of this bike
🏴 Love from Scotland 🏴
Good to see you back 🤘
Cheers! 😀
I like this bike so much I bought one & am very happy with it. I think these are so underrated, thanks for really enjoyable video.. Nice one 👍👍🏍️👍👍
Good choice! Thanks for watching!
I think this bike are brilliant, and has no problem doing the same job as its bigger competitors. However l wish the on road version(not the DE) would get shaft drive.. Guess my tiger will go for a new dl1000/1050 soon.
Nice vid & all good points but the problem is that the Suzuki isn't very cool or desirable. It's for those on a budget & that's just not sexy. Suzuki give you what you need but not always want you want & there are often compromises. Nonetheless they make great bikes & are still my favourite manufacturer as I think they're generally the best value for money, especially secondhand.
TBH, while I like the styling of this type of bikes, I find them all kinda ugly. I'd put the KTM SA1290 and...mine which the exact same one as in this video as my favs in this category. The GS or Multistrada are not even close (lookwise) and the Triumph is just meh..
Basing your primary buying decisions on coolness/looks is a path to disappointment or disillusionment. Performance , comfort, reliabilty, value, and cost of ownership should be primary goals. Lots of former Euro bike riders who have learned the hard way having part of their wallet stolen.
@@kannermw Maybe so but it's human nature & ultimately a subjective decision really. You pay your money & take your choice I guess.
Great review Dan, good to be reminded of dry roads!
Thanks Huw!
Welcome back bro, great review as usual ✌🏿✌🏿✌🏿✌🏿✌🏿
Thanks bro!!
Brilliant review, as always!
Thanks Julian!
Because most bikers drive to have fun. The 1050 maybe a good motorcycle but there are lot's of bikes that are more fun to drive.It's comfy an pleasant on motorways, but that is every car too. I bought one of those and sold it almost instantly. The engine is liveless, the bike weights ~250kg's.
U have to understand what suzuki does. It builds bikes that are cheap to buy cheap to own and cheap to maintain. I'd take a suzuki v strom over a gs any day. It's taken them 20 years to finally offer looks handling reliability and decent spec. But it was never a bad bike. Just ugly. It looks much better than a gs and it will last longer
I put 30K miles on the XT: If you take the time to setup the suspension you can surprise quite a few sports bikes. I now have 1290S and the electronic suspension is only on par with the manual v-strom suspension. In summary: I never had the XT wallow, wobble or bounce out of shape, even cranked over and hitting a Welsh pothole- damn fine tourer.
Nice! Yeah suspension setup makes all the difference! Thanks!
VSTROME 1050 is awsome bike and for me is best adventure bike
I agree!
Nice to have you back! I bought my first bike , 2019 Honda CB650R, based on your review. I’m now looking at some touring bikes. Considering Yamaha Tracer 9 GT, BMW F900XR and Triumph 900 GT Pro. Which would you recommend and why? Keep content coming!
Thanks, it's good to be back! Out of those three, I've not ridden the new Yamaha, so I can't comment on that one. However, the Triumph 900 GT Pro would be my pick!
I went from and SV650 to the F900XR after 14 years. The riding experience is like nothing before, relaxed yet plenty of fun as you climb up the rev gauge!!
Great review Dan.
Thanks Dave!
another great video !!! Thanks!
I love it, i just need the money to buy it! I own 1st gen K2.
Looks great in yellow
Dan is back !
I am back! :D
I tried a 650 and a 1000 of the previous gen, and was surprised to prefer the engine of the 650. Was just more fun, the bigger engine had more torque but somehow it felt flatter...
This is one Awesome Bike for sure, i only test ride the old version, after some time you figure out all you need is 3'ed gear on this brilliant bike ;-)
Windscreen thing, i would recommend a bigger screen insted of putting one on top ;-)
He's back 👍
I am! :)
Good value bikes, and the new 2023 ones will be a very good value bike with the extra bits and bobs on them. Can see the sales rising with those. Disappointed to see they haven't done anything with that stupid screen adjuster though.
Enjoyed my first viewing of this video so watched it again. My only criticism and one of my pet hates - Americans use 'levvers', so say 'levverage', the UK and England use 'leavers', which becomes 'leaverage'.....not 'levverage'......please Dan, you're English, be proud to use your 'leavers' for better 'leaverage' 🙂
Hahaha, life is too short to worry about such things. Thanks for watching!
He's back! I'm still waiting for update on the SV650 (selfish I know, but I am looking to get a middleweight for the welsh lanes) and cannot decide which one
Haha, I have another vid or two planned with the SV. Just need a warmish day that's not soaking wet! 😒
@EnglishBikerDan see it in June then
I basically wanted to know if you regret it and whether it's more fun than your old cb650.
What is the leg room like. I'm about 6'2" and own a 2005 GS with 100,000 miles and I'm looking to replace. One of the things I like with the GS is the room. Especially the leg room. I really like the 1050.
I tested the regular V Strom 1050 today. Initially I didn't like it but I changed the rider mode and it transformed the bike the middle setting is spot on. It's a bit of a thumper but overall I enjoyed it.
Had a TL1OOOS in 98, loved that engine. These are a bit old hat now although they are going for £10,795 otr which is good value.
Yeah, 30 years old now so I hear! Thanks!
Amazing the TL1000S was £7,999 at launch. At it was a lot of bike back then. To much for some people. I still can't believe anything under £10k now is a budget option.
I like it, especially yellow.
Welcome back Dan! Refreshed I trust? Have you booked the ABR Festival yet? I’m going to keep on your tail until you do 😉😂
Thanks Alan, plans are in the works! :D
To me it seems like the best, affordable alternative to the new 800de! I’m considering it myself for that reason. Gotta get rid of some stable first
Because it is rather weak,the powerband begins above 4-5K rpm and it is veeery long geared with a 17/41 sprocket combo.On top of it it is heavy at 250 kilos.Other than all these it is excellent and i might have kept mine,but i knew i would have to dole out serious cash to make it less meh and even then it would be just an ok mega adv.Sold it after 8 months.
Interesting comment, as I can't say I felt it was underpowered or needed thrashing. V-Twins are famously grunty and this engine is the grandfather of V-Twins. I guess we all like what we like. Cheers!
@@Englishbikerdan i like very much v2's but the big Strom was completely different than my SV Mk3,which i kept btw. It was weak down low where precisely i expected and indeed wanted it to be. I wanted a long legged and comfortable all rounder with a knack for twisty ,climbing mountain roads(the ones Suzuki shows in the brochure!),what i got was a highway locomotive and not much else.
Who the hell cares about weight of 250 Kg >1000 cc displacement bike? Anyone who thinks these heavy bikes can be riden seriously off-road is kidding themselves or damaging a very expensive motorcycle.
What did you buy?
@@kannermw i didn't buy it for off road use,if your comment refers to me. Only as a semisports tourer that is capable to negotiate the odd bump,hole or small unpaved pass in a mountainous terrain. 250 Kg is too much,i agree,for any bike,off road or not. The biggest problem though was not that. I had no issue with the Strom's weight,neither with it's size,which i consider logical and absolutely manageable. It was it's sluggish performance in it's supposed home turf that killed it for me.
I am 5'8 with 30 in-seam, I wear my boots and try this bike recently I barely touch the ground both feet. Stock seat up to 850mm, I have confidence to drive this big adventure bike, But the seat you have there is it stock?
Dan, tell us: if you were to pick this one or the GSX-S1000 GT for say on road travels + town riding only (so no off-road) - which one would you pick and why?
V-Strom for me. More comfortable, better tank range and wouldn't look silly with a top box! 😋
@@Englishbikerdan Lol just tried to imagine the GT with a top box now :D Thanks for your reply, stay awesome (and safe) man!
I like the look of the 1st generation V-Storms better. Great bikes though!
1050 doesn’t sell because V-Strom 650 is better pick; lighter, cheaper, better fuel efficiency, less TFT crap etcetc..
It’s a bit whiny because it has gear driven cams, which is really good because you don’t have a cam jam chain make a noise that’s excellent
I thought it reminded me of something, my old VFR800.
I test drove the 2023 vstrom 1050 de adventure and liked it but it was too tall for me. Bought the 2023 Vstrom 800 de adventure instead just because it was a little lower.
Nice, hope you're enjoying the 800!
Just bought a 2020 1050A off the dealer at a discount. Just waiting for the snow and salt to disappear 🇨🇦
If I still liked litre-plus adventure bikes, I'd probably want this, but they are all so heavy now. My favourite one now: KTM 890 Adventure R
Fair enough!
It’s more road tour biased, so the weight is fine.
Tried it really didn't like how boring it was at low rpm and was using mode A
I actually think it's one of the better looking adv bikes out there. The KTM and GS are pretty ugly, the only other good looker is the AT.
Not the most beautiful bike but it's a great fit for tall riders. And dont forget the cost of ownership. 12000 km service €344,00. No issues , just twist the throttle and enjoy the ride.
Nice review👍
It’s a great fit for average riders. 176cm, 32 inch inseam, I’m fine.
I think it's because the original V Twin was such a great engine and made such a great bike that people were like " if it isn't broken don't fix it " , all they had to do was build a bigger V Twin . You can't call the bike a " V-Strom " if it hasn't got a V Twin Engine ....................
I wish Suzuki would make a SV1050, I am sure they would sell alot of them!
Thanks 😊👍🙏
I'll agree that it's not sexy, but for me it has a functional look about it that I really dig. I guess we're all different!
I have this bike in black and silver. The only change I am making is a new pipe, just too quiet... Haha
How would you get to the screen adjuster lock on the inside?? It'd be too dangerous and you'd end up knocking your phone off or worse.You only need to adjust it once for you and leave it alone..no big deal and really not worth mentioning, honestly the things that folk complain about these days is quite staggering. as for TFT screens...??
Many other manufacturers manage it with no problems. It's good to be able to adjust on the go, as wind buffeting can differ at different speeds. You are complaining about complaining, which is amusing. 😂
So you're going to be constantly changing the height of the screen as you accelerate and decelerate? That means removing your phone from it's holder , removing the phone holder , all with your left hand wearing a glove most likely , adjusting your screen so you don't get buffeting and then reach into your pocket with gloved hand on to remove the phone holder , drop your phone on the road and watch it smash into pieces...etc etc... or you have the lock infront and you'll be moaning that there's nowhere to put your phone.
@@stephenauty2402 The phone doesn't need to be moved at all to change the screen height. So not quite sure what you're on about tbh! :D
Two main reasons it doesn't sell that well imo:
1) The specs haven't really changed since 2014 other than some new fangled electrical whizbangery. You can get a V-Strom 1000 that essentially rides the same (other than the cable throttle) for less than half the price, and they just so happen to be pretty reliable bikes too!
2) a V-Strom 650 is still more than enough bike, is lighter, cheaper to buy and has better fuel economy. There's nothing really the 1050 will do that the 650 won't.
This type of false justification is repeated by those who can't afford the 1050. I had a 2013 Vstrom 650 and now have a 2018 VStrom 1000. The 1000 and now 1050 is better in so many ways that your statement makes no sense other than price.
Vstrom 1050 has cruise control, 6 axis IMU for increaed safety (what is avoiding or minimizing risk of a serious accident worth?), hydraulic actuated slipper clutch, > 40% more torque and HP, much better suspension and brakes, adjustable levers and windscreen, better electrical output and more reliable voltage regulator/magneto design, in 2023 quick-shifter, ride modes, TFT etc.. New VStrom 650 might have closed gap but price increased considerably.
The real reason 1050 doesn't sell is due to greater competition of KTM, Honda, BMW, Yamaha, Triumph, and Kawasaki. Suzuki needs to increase VStrom displacement to 1200cc to get power up 20% and add more premium options for touring and steal share from BMW.
@@kannermw I think you've missed the point - the appeal of the V-Strom has generally been that it's cheaper than the competition, it's never been the most powerful/agile of the bunch. Most V-Strom owning types are content to buy used, people who are going to buy a new 1050 for £12-14k will just stump up the extra for a BMW, Triumph or KTM. The cheapskate crowd will get a 650, it will do everything the 1050 does for less.
@Geshmaal The 650 is not as good for 2-up and no-where near as fun to ride. It is for the cheapskates and I was that person 10 years ago just getting back into motorcycling after a 30 year hiatus. With the 1000/1050 you just twist the grip and it takes off without exercising the gearbox. Passing is way faster and safer. I purchased a 2022 Versys 1000 this past fall because it gave me more comfort and power. After 25K+ miles on the 2018 1000XT (no regrets) the cost to replace with 1050 has risen about 25 percent. They need to offer touring version with adaptive suspension and 20 % more power. Instead Suzuki tries to lever up price into premium category and not deliver on key metric and that is performance.
@Boris J I have a penchant for roundabouts that have clear 4-way visibility and no obstructions. There you can exercise your inner hooligan to get the occasional pedal scrape even at relatively lower and safer speeds. It is there you can feel how such systems are truly amazing. Of all things you can buy in a motorcycle an IMU represents less than $1,500 in added cost. Compared to even a minor incident that could cause significant damage to bike or serious injury with pain and suffering, disability, or death IMU is most likely the best feature in terms of value to have in any modern motorcycle. To those that disagree I would state what is your life or personal wellness and ability to work including lost income during recovery worth if the risk of such could be reduced by up to 50% (ABS alone statistically reduces incidents by 25%)? It is not unrealistic to project cornering ABS and traction control would double this number to 50%.
Placing some tangible numbers on this. In U.S, every year 1% of registered riders are involved in a crash. The average cost of an accident is $185K. Estimated accident risk reduction is 50%.
1% x $185K x 50% = $925/year. A payback of less then two years and a portion of the depreciated value of this system recovered in any resale.
Most certainly the naysayers will state that $185K is not actual individual out-of-pocket cost. But who really thinks $185K will make you whole to what you were before an accident? The crux of the matter is these costs represent a greater burden placed on society because of someone's blind ignorance of risk and over-confidence in their skills to overcome them. On this basis alone it is simply a no-brainer tech except for those who think they can evade the laws of Darwin.😂
I am fiscal conservative and sensitive to government over-reach but this technology is now so cost effective that ABS should be mandatory on all street motorcycles and 6 axis IMU mandatory on all multi-cylinder motorcycles or over 650 cc displacement. If you can't afford this minimal added cost then you really can't afford to ride a motorcycle.
I don't like them simply because they are V engines. I don't like to tear an entire bike apart to reach the valves. I like the 800DE.
I got 256 miles out of one tank full.
That's good going!
Don't get why everyone is complaining about the windshield adjustment? I mean who cares? I don't get why they are "adjustable" anyway. I mean I like being out of the wind. All they way up and done. No bugs no wind no buffeting no adjustment the end.
Probably because people have different experiences to you. If it works for you, great. We are all different shapes, heights and experience things differently.
@@Englishbikerdan So you are saying the more coverage you use the less coverage you have? Ok whatever. Be different.
In my experience, it just doesn’t reach the first tier in Adventure Bike market. There are myriad premium options and the V Storm doesn’t have the off-road bias of the Desert X, KTM 890 or the Norden. Maybe not even of the Africa Twin.
I'd say it could do everything those bikes can, this version just doesn't have the 21" front. But the new DE does. I think for serious off road it would probably struggle, but then that's beyond my skill level anyway.
Think the V Strom suffers from an image problem. It's just not an aspirational bike. It's good at what it does. Dependable, reliable but do people see their bikes as a reflection of their personalities?
Thanks for a reminder of what a British summer looks like.
Maybe, the marketing team need to do some work I think.
@@Englishbikerdan Perhaps if a couple of guys like Charley and Ewan took them on an around the world trip??? I suspect they would keep going where a modern farked up GS might not
@@Banditmanuk Hehe, I'm sure they'd break less! 😁
@@Englishbikerdan 🤣🤣
From my perspective once you get into the realm of VStrom 1050 pricing you are closer to higher spec options from BMW, Triumph, Harley, Kawasaki, and Honda. Might as well spend $2,500 more for adaptive suspension and other niceties like more power cause you are already into premium level motorcycle price range.