Oh hey, that's mine post @ 0:57 on the electric-skateboard.builders forum. I just recently bought more nickel strip for battery pack building and I'm in the process of checking what I actually got and stumbled upon this video in the process. Kudos for good and clear explanations of the different tests!
I used methods you mentioned. In addition to that I performed weight test. Nickel is a little bit heavier than steel. I ordered 5 meters of 8mm wide and 0.15mm thick nickel strip (yes, I measured those dimensions). If it was Nickel the weight would be 53.4 grams. If it was steel, it would be less (around 48 grams). I used jewelry scales and I measured 53.3 grams. It clearly is a pure Nickel strip.
I have received 5m of nickel plated steel strips today. Again, 8mm wide, 0.15mm thick. It's weight is 48.3 grams. Exactly as expected. So, this is pretty accurate method.
Your solution is definitely a lot faster. I also have an accurate kitchen scale - good to know that I can get the expected weight quite fast just by calculating the cm^3.
Saw someone try to spot weld pure nickel strips, and it's not as easy as steel because it's the resistance that makes the heat that welds them together. We'll have to see how you go with PN v S.
I am pretty sure my DIY spot welder can do it, It has decent power. Not so sure on the sunko 737G spot welder I reviewed, that one seemed to have less available power
I'm changing my battery cells from my power tool, and I need some new tabs. But I don't know if it's aluminum or nickel tabs? How would I be able to tell the difference?
What if you can't find or don't have nickel strips, is copper wire or plate the other option? One more thing, what's the resistance for nickel and copper? If you have any ideas?
Fake nickel strips are really annoying, I was trying to do some nickel electroplating and even the expensive strips had steel in them which ruined my solution each time. Took me ~5 tries until I received genuine nickel strips from an ebay/aliexpress seller.
As someone else mentioned in the comments below, I guess the best bet would be to try to get the nickel strips from specialty stores that deal with these kind of products as that is more likely for them to know what they are selling and where to source the stuff.
It's not easy finding pure nickel strips or rolls, but if this new guy you have doesn't pan out, I have a site for you. I take it you're using nickel plated copper for the washers and connectors for the copper tips and if not the steel works just as good for this being you're using overkill pulses anyway. I used a make shift setup using a 350 to 400 amp tractor battery, a 1978 Ford Bronco solenoid, some thick solid copper wire the cable company gave me to wind and use for the connection line for the copper nails and a momentary switch which I only tap as fast as possible getting the same results and they were parts I had laying around, real nickel will burn through much easier than the plated crap. I would rather go with copper strips or a solid strand of wire that doubles as a fuse. In all reality what is the batteries positive button and canister made of because that sums it up right there...Silver is the best for making any connections for a PCB or anything, but for your own Class A stereo build would be worth your wild just because and makes for a conversation piece and silver solder, but again, in the end it's about what they used to make the components and the legs.
I ordered nickel strip from that ebay seller. I tested it and it is pure nickel strip. At least the one I received ;) Measured resistance, measured weight, tested with salt water and tested with grinder/sparks. All the results confirmed it is nickel.
Easiest check is scrape and put into salt water, result in about 3 hours already. Specialized sellers for only battery stuff are more trustworthy. Cheapest way is to buy whole 1kg roll ~50-60$. Copper is ~5x cheaper but corroding and hard to weld.
Thanks for the video as it was very informative I am just trying to reclaim some nickel to use in some electroplating and was curious about the batteries I was taking apart one of the strip was nickel or Steel I will look further into this thank you
I don´t get it. 1. surely not all of these metal strips will be the same thickness 2. if you want low resistance in a thin strip, I would think you would want nickel plated copper or similar
@@russ18uk Well, it depends. I can buy 5 meters of 8mm wide and 0.15mm thick nickel strip for 8€ from China (it is 1.6€ per meter). Or I can buy pure copper strips here in Europe that are 15mm wide and 0.3mm thick (so double thickness and double width) for 1.2€ per meter. So this copper strip is cheaper than nickel strip from china. These copper strips are used for connecting lightning conductors and lightning rods (no problem buying them here).
If it were stainless steel, it is not corroded in a saline solution, even scratching the strip. To check if it is a ferric material, adding concentrated vinegar (which is used in cleaning) + diluted hydrogen peroxide (from which it is sold in pharmacy) and heating without boiling, the solution should take a red-fare color, for the formation of iron acetate, soluble in water.
I have bought many pure nickel strips from ebay for around $1 per meter. The catch is that they are usually in 1 - 2 meter coils. These were likely leftovers from some larger manufacturing, hence there is no real cost to the person selling them. And Yes, you do have to be very careful when buying anything like this. CCA cables is another example. They are typically around half the price of pure copper conductors, but are merely copper coated aluminum.
As someone else mentioned in the comments below, I guess the best bet would be to try to get the nickel strips from specialty stores that deal with these kind of products as that is more likely for them to know what they are selling and where to source the stuff. I agree CCA cables is another good example of product that we often get fooled by.
Hi, I like to thank you for the video, its very useful video. Also I like to inform that I worked for a Nickel & Cobalt Co. in 80s in Sao Paulo, Brazil, called "Nickel Tocantins" . According to my experience pure Nickel is very expensive like gold and if someone need to buy it, need to know the source. What we have available today through eBay, Aliexpress, for our projects , like Solar power system, DIY projects, is "Nickel Strip Steel". Pure Nickel is controlled by Government and 3rd parties. So I don't think is worth to pay the real value of the Nickel for small home projects, unless you are rich.
I bought some battery strips on Amazon and they are pure nickel. I can't remember how much they were but I remember they were kind of expensive. I only got 50 pre cut 2 inch strips and I thinks they were around 6 dollars American.
Yes they can be found on pretty much any platform, ebay, amazon, aliexpress, but some people are not aware of the differences between the two and they will mostly get the cheap stuff believing it's the same as the more expensive stuff.
100 inches is almost 3 metres, so your price is still pretty cheap ($2/m). Have you conducted any of the tests in the video? Or weighed them as Juraj Lonc suggested?
Nickel coins are being phased out in the places that still have them due to melt value. Canadian "nickels" (5 cent pieces) were 75-25 Cu-Ni since 1982, and have been nickel-plated steel since 2003. Hey...maybe we could press those into nickel-plated steel strips! :-D
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@@voltlog, I think you don't need to explain, is YOUR channel, so, do whatever you want, people gotta complain, ALWAYS, so, better let the "current flow" naturally, the people who really like your content don't complain for 6 seconds ads. If not, maybe they can find good channels without advertising. Cheers !
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The new world record holder for the number of times saying "pure nickel strips" in six minutes and fourteen seconds! Well done :)
That should ensure I receive pure nickel strip targeted ads for the rest of my life 😂
@@jacobdavis000 Your literacy has failed you again, Jim-Bob. If you re-read the first post, you'll see Rob didn't count anything. Please get help.
Oh hey, that's mine post @ 0:57 on the electric-skateboard.builders forum. I just recently bought more nickel strip for battery pack building and I'm in the process of checking what I actually got and stumbled upon this video in the process. Kudos for good and clear explanations of the different tests!
I used methods you mentioned. In addition to that I performed weight test. Nickel is a little bit heavier than steel. I ordered 5 meters of 8mm wide and 0.15mm thick nickel strip (yes, I measured those dimensions). If it was Nickel the weight would be 53.4 grams. If it was steel, it would be less (around 48 grams). I used jewelry scales and I measured 53.3 grams. It clearly is a pure Nickel strip.
I have received 5m of nickel plated steel strips today. Again, 8mm wide, 0.15mm thick. It's weight is 48.3 grams. Exactly as expected. So, this is pretty accurate method.
Your solution is definitely a lot faster. I also have an accurate kitchen scale - good to know that I can get the expected weight quite fast just by calculating the cm^3.
A follow-up video with visual comparison once you actually have some pure nickel strips on hand would be... Handy!
Gotta love a guy just making videos on stuff he is doing in his own world.
Wher can I finde this Charts with the current that they can handle from this video in 4:46min please?
Very nice EXPLANATION.
BTW, this is your best video I watched until today.
Very informative video
I don't use this, never needed, but is always good to know. Thanks for sharing !
thank you!
Nice
Saw someone try to spot weld pure nickel strips, and it's not as easy as steel because it's the resistance that makes the heat that welds them together. We'll have to see how you go with PN v S.
I am pretty sure my DIY spot welder can do it, It has decent power. Not so sure on the sunko 737G spot welder I reviewed, that one seemed to have less available power
I'm changing my battery cells from my power tool, and I need some new tabs.
But I don't know if it's aluminum or nickel tabs?
How would I be able to tell the difference?
What if you can't find or don't have nickel strips, is copper wire or plate the other option?
One more thing, what's the resistance for nickel and copper? If you have any ideas?
From where I get pure nickel strip?
Fake nickel strips are really annoying, I was trying to do some nickel electroplating and even the expensive strips had steel in them which ruined my solution each time. Took me ~5 tries until I received genuine nickel strips from an ebay/aliexpress seller.
As someone else mentioned in the comments below, I guess the best bet would be to try to get the nickel strips from specialty stores that deal with these kind of products as that is more likely for them to know what they are selling and where to source the stuff.
It's not easy finding pure nickel strips or rolls, but if this new guy you have doesn't pan out, I have a site for you. I take it you're using nickel plated copper for the washers and connectors for the copper tips and if not the steel works just as good for this being you're using overkill pulses anyway. I used a make shift setup using a 350 to 400 amp tractor battery, a 1978 Ford Bronco solenoid, some thick solid copper wire the cable company gave me to wind and use for the connection line for the copper nails and a momentary switch which I only tap as fast as possible getting the same results and they were parts I had laying around, real nickel will burn through much easier than the plated crap. I would rather go with copper strips or a solid strand of wire that doubles as a fuse. In all reality what is the batteries positive button and canister made of because that sums it up right there...Silver is the best for making any connections for a PCB or anything, but for your own Class A stereo build would be worth your wild just because and makes for a conversation piece and silver solder, but again, in the end it's about what they used to make the components and the legs.
I ordered nickel strip from that ebay seller. I tested it and it is pure nickel strip. At least the one I received ;) Measured resistance, measured weight, tested with salt water and tested with grinder/sparks. All the results confirmed it is nickel.
Easiest check is scrape and put into salt water, result in about 3 hours already.
Specialized sellers for only battery stuff are more trustworthy.
Cheapest way is to buy whole 1kg roll ~50-60$.
Copper is ~5x cheaper but corroding and hard to weld.
I guess that means it's a seller's market for nickel strips, because the base metal only costs 2x as much as copper.
Thanks for the video as it was very informative I am just trying to reclaim some nickel to use in some electroplating and was curious about the batteries I was taking apart one of the strip was nickel or Steel I will look further into this thank you
What if it's nickel plating over copper?
I don´t get it.
1. surely not all of these metal strips will be the same thickness
2. if you want low resistance in a thin strip, I would think you would want nickel plated copper or similar
NiCu or better yet pure copper are far superior, yeah but even more expensive!
@@russ18uk And copper is nearly impossible to spot weld because of it's low resistance.
@@russ18uk Well, it depends. I can buy 5 meters of 8mm wide and 0.15mm thick nickel strip for 8€ from China (it is 1.6€ per meter). Or I can buy pure copper strips here in Europe that are 15mm wide and 0.3mm thick (so double thickness and double width) for 1.2€ per meter. So this copper strip is cheaper than nickel strip from china. These copper strips are used for connecting lightning conductors and lightning rods (no problem buying them here).
If it were stainless steel, it is not corroded in a saline solution, even scratching the strip. To check if it is a ferric material, adding concentrated vinegar (which is used in cleaning) + diluted hydrogen peroxide (from which it is sold in pharmacy) and heating without boiling, the solution should take a red-fare color, for the formation of iron acetate, soluble in water.
No one is going to try to scam people by selling stainless steel as nickel instead of mild steel.
I forgot Nickel was ferromagnetic. Thanks!
are they toxic? should we wear gloves when working with them?
I have bought many pure nickel strips from ebay for around $1 per meter. The catch is that they are usually in 1 - 2 meter coils. These were likely leftovers from some larger manufacturing, hence there is no real cost to the person selling them. And Yes, you do have to be very careful when buying anything like this. CCA cables is another example. They are typically around half the price of pure copper conductors, but are merely copper coated aluminum.
As someone else mentioned in the comments below, I guess the best bet would be to try to get the nickel strips from specialty stores that deal with these kind of products as that is more likely for them to know what they are selling and where to source the stuff. I agree CCA cables is another good example of product that we often get fooled by.
I got some nickel plated copper, less resistance, but it is a bit more difficult to spotweld!
I’m thinking of using nickel plated copper for my batteries, how exactly is it harder to weld? Any tips?
Hi, I like to thank you for the video, its very useful video. Also I like to inform that I worked for a Nickel & Cobalt Co. in 80s in Sao Paulo, Brazil, called "Nickel Tocantins" . According to my experience pure Nickel is very expensive like gold and if someone need to buy it, need to know the source. What we have available today through eBay, Aliexpress, for our projects , like Solar power system, DIY projects, is "Nickel Strip Steel". Pure Nickel is controlled by Government and 3rd parties. So I don't think is worth to pay the real value of the Nickel for small home projects, unless you are rich.
I bought some battery strips on Amazon and they are pure nickel.
I can't remember how much they were but I remember they were kind of expensive.
I only got 50 pre cut 2 inch strips and I thinks they were around 6 dollars American.
Yes they can be found on pretty much any platform, ebay, amazon, aliexpress, but some people are not aware of the differences between the two and they will mostly get the cheap stuff believing it's the same as the more expensive stuff.
100 inches is almost 3 metres, so your price is still pretty cheap ($2/m). Have you conducted any of the tests in the video? Or weighed them as Juraj Lonc suggested?
Another way is to look at the price. Nikel tends to be more expensive.
next time you have to test what you have mentioned with pure nickel to be more confident and resalable
As a source factory,you can trust me!
Roll a nickel coin into one (place one into rail road track and wait for the train)
Nickel coins are being phased out in the places that still have them due to melt value. Canadian "nickels" (5 cent pieces) were 75-25 Cu-Ni since 1982, and have been nickel-plated steel since 2003.
Hey...maybe we could press those into nickel-plated steel strips! :-D
I just got pure nickel strip from the ebay seller and it is pure
I prefer chicken strips :P
I like those too 👍
Pure chicken is good if you can afford it, but chicken-over-steel is still pretty good too.
Sir, why not use copper instead of nickel. I am a noob please don't laugh at this question
Copper is corroding and hard to weld
Impossible to Weld without producing so much heat that the battery would suffer.
A magnet?
Nickel is ferromagnetic
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Curie test..
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Love your videos but I can't stand this
growing type of advertising I will unsubscribe.
I'm sorry to hear you will unsubscribe, however these ads make the videos possible as the main funding source of the channel. I am open to some constructive feedback as to how the ads can be improved to be less disturbing.
The reason most of us watch and make these vids is for the love of our hobby .I know some ads are inevitable but surely one 6 second ad at the start and at the end is sufficient, to add the advert to the content matter of your video is a particular annoyance that definitely spoils the video. Advertising is a big subject and it has to be said that utube will be as bad as TV the way its going, I have seen as many as 7 ads in one short video. @@voltlog
@@stevea5407 Steve A You are probably referring to the youtube ads when you say 6 second long (start, end, middle, I do not choose where youtube places them). Let me share with you that for voltlog #226, this was published last week and thus has exhausted potential views and earnings, it has earned me $3.84. So do you think $3.84 is enough to pay for all the mailbag items shown in that video? I can assure it is not, that's why a sponsor like jlcpcb and the in-video ad is required to keep the activity running. Like I said earlier I am open to constructive feedback on how the ad can be improved to be less annoying. But until an alternative funding source is available, ads will continue to appear on my videos.
@@voltlog, I think you don't need to explain, is YOUR channel, so, do whatever you want, people gotta complain, ALWAYS, so, better let the "current flow" naturally, the people who really like your content don't complain for 6 seconds ads. If not, maybe they can find good channels without advertising. Cheers !
@@stevea5407 I use Firefox with the Adblock Plus extension. VoltLog's own ad is the only one I've seen today.
true pure nickel should not be magnetic because it is the steel content that makes it stick to a magnet, rust and spark.