Underrated "Bad" vs Terrible "Good" Games
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Steam is filled with a bunch of underrated indie games that can sometimes be more impactful than some of the latest AAA games that rely on massive budgets to carry their success and a lot of the times, these smaller games are often overlooked. Some of the games like Owinka Shooter, Muck, and Step By Step are a few examples that prove that going by first impressions can sometimes lead you to miss out on some real banger video games.
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Nintendo has understood the importance of gameplay > tech/graphics for a long time. Although it's frustrating that their great visions are sometimes held back by the lower-end tech they often use, their first-party games always emphasize originality and fun gameplay.
I feel like limitation often breeds creativity, so their lower-end devices might steer their games development toward fun over looks.
@@egghgfe6116 Definitely, there have been many cases of various game-jams or other self-imposed limitations which have brought about great games.
Fallout new vegas is a great game that nerfed by bethesda engine . A few mods here and there and it is one of the best games of all time .
too bad that they're held back by their exploit of copyright law
"If it's not fun, why bother?"
Miss you Reggie.
One thing that's good about being an indie dev is you can easily spend 200+ hours playing and testing your own game, and any boring traits and unsatisfying traits are going to get pretty obvious. Sometimes it seems like the structure of the big studios loses that
That can also be a negative, feature creep is a real issue that indie devs face.
Look at Yandere Simulator, That game started off as a 1 year game and he just keeps adding random stuff. Obviously that guy has other issues but still.
That kind of development is very common for indie devs its just you usually don’t see it
One armed robber and gum ball run are two of my favorite games so glad that you are shining a light on them
One armed robber just caused an entire Fallout in our friend group [Fallout: New Vegas]. It ends friendships
Sometimes I forget btd6 isnt indie just because of how chill Ninja Kiwi is.
1- The game is fun af and has charming grafics
2- Its really cheap
3- r/btd6 and the community interaction in general, like, for a relatively big company, they listen to community feedback way too fast. Also, every single update there are comprehensive patch notes about everything changed and etc
The game is monetized like a mobile game, not really chill.
@@SuperKratosgamer you dont NEED to buy them they're optional. you can get monkey money without buying it and you can get insta towers for free too you're just too lazy to do that and think the only way is through the microtransactions
@@MainIsBored bro im not following a spreadsheet so i don't have to spend on a mobile game L take
@@thecoolestofthe834s2 you can literally get monkey money and insta monkeys by logging in the game daily you dont even need to play it just go on it for like 1 minute
It isn’t???
Gameplay is literally all that matters. Spent like $5 on Vampire Survivors and I have roughly 1,100 hours in it. Don't have anywhere near that much in any AAA game.
Yep, people that chase realistic graphics can go and watch movies, games are made to be played and it should be fun
I think the irony to that is like, most AAA games have a pretty decent baseline on their gameplay, while in order to get noticed the smaller indie games tend to have to stand out with very charming visuals and art, even if their gameplay is less polished and consistent on average
But then you got vampire survivors here with borderline stolen art assets but just a kinda good unique gameplay loop that was a huge hit
@@colmecolwag I dunno, a lot of indie devs are extremely creative with gameplay mechanics (AAA don't dare to experiment anymore, because they're scared to lose money). Ultrakill for example looks like usual shooter but in practice it's like a combo of Doom eternal, Titanfall and DMC. Noita gives an unbearable amount of spells combinations. Animal well doesn't have a fight system and you have to use common stuff to get further. Outer wilds doesn't have any fight, all you need is knowledge. Rogue-lites also tend to provide unexpected combo of items. Baba is you is basically the programming game. Carrion allows to play as monster and terrify humans. Every rhythm-shooter is indie too. In Valheim you can kill giants by cutting a tree. In Crawl you can play as monsters and kill a hero.
@@colmecolwag That, or, the indie plays with such a genuinely unique concept/concepts that makes up the core gameplay. superliminal, VVVVVV, Undertale, and untitled goose game are known examples.
Walt Disney once said that he didn't make movies to make money, but made money to make movies. At some point, everyone seems to have forgotten that. This is why indies are kicking the asses of the big corporations, because there's actual passion and not pure greed, leading to the most homogeneous content imaginable that only exists to appease investors and shareholders who don't even play video games.
Ever wondered what would happen if a AA company actually made good games?
Well then you get landfall which basically acts like a indie company but just with more budget
The charm of their games can be seen from a mile
And you get a guaranteed free game every year that is really fun.
I'd recommend buying some of their games and following them when they release another free one in april 1st
Landfall is one of my favorite studios, can't wait for their next project
Landfall Is awesome, their only game I don't like Is Haste and that's because It feels like a generic mobile game
The difference between a truly bad and a truly good game:
One is made to be sold,
The other is made to be played.
A lot of these big budget games are "soulless". Humans have souls and can tell when something is made with a soul being active in the creation, rather than made by AI or big cooperations. Many big games replace the soulful personality of their creators and replace it with cookie-cutter assets of whatever is "popular" at the moment.
@@jasonshere Case in point: Minecraft in the last 5 years
@@williamdrum9899out of all the games you could have said, you choose MINECRAFT?! Maybe I was just never exposed to it, but do people hate Minecraft now? Cause last I checked it's still just as good as it's ever been, technically even better
@@Monkeylighthouse Honestly it's just dull and doesn't add enough new content
@@williamdrum9899 That's a different argument than it being a soulless game. I've played only a little bit of Minecraft in the earlier years, but it what I've perceived is that it likely lost some of what made it special when Microsoft purchased it from Notch.
Part of what makes things special is their uniqueness and when Minecraft, et al., doesn't evolve but instead begins to look like everything else on the market, it loses what made it special in the first place.
But that's just a theory...
dark souls reference
Ngl cult of the lamb devs are a great exception where despite being part of a much bigger studio they have idle dev connection with the community
For example:community wanted sex update, they added sex update
I mean Massive Monster doesn't seem to be that large, like 10-30 people. They even call themselves independent. The only bigger part of the game is the publisher.
fortnite rizz lamb
Players can often tell how much passion you've put into your game, so it really makes a big difference! Great video man, keep it up!
I think a good way to tell that you’ve made a good game (as a solo indie developer that is) is that you yourself enjoy playing it or you feel satisfied with the result of making it
I think a good example is Rhetts Journey.it's a good indie game. And It was supposedly inspired by another indie game. It just feels like it has passion behind it. Btw, I loved the video. Please make a video exploring some of the good games made with passion❤
I'll check it out!
The thing about games nowadays is that they are no longer treated like video games, they're treated like products.
Skull and Bones truly is a AAAA game. we know that because its 4 times worse than Indie games
Quadruple A in Swedish
Not gonna lie, ive personally had enough with super realistic games. They take more computing power, tend to put more into the graphics over gameplay, and just feel so not unique when theres TONS of other games that look like it. It also has a correlation to bad trailers that just put only the visuals and not gameplay in.
Same. Why play a game that's gonna hog your resources with a fraction of gameplay when you can just play a "bad" low poly game with more features than most AAA games have.
To give an example, there's Ravenfield. It's AI is dumb, but the amount of content that's there can pretty much make up for the last two Battlefield games and more. Heck, it even doubles down as a better Battlefield Portal, with so many customizable options that you'd be spending a good few hundred hours trying out different combinations.
the most fun i had with a AAA title recently is Helldivers 2. The developers just made it so good for me, and the playerbase is mostly nice and kind, so yeah, its the last AAA game i had fun with (not including DBZ games cuz man they mostly hit)
Helldivers 2 is an indie game.
As a solo developer I agree with this video, but I also find it kind of sad that people are so starved for content with a personality that they will play things that otherwise have flat gameplay and ugly graphics.
I misheard Owinka Shooter as The Wanker Shooter and now I can't get “Sniping's a good job, mate,” out of my head…
the main problem with AAA games rn is the gameplay loop system where you end up doing the same thing over and over again. SSKTJL had an very fun demo where I assumed the content would keep expanding with new unique enemies throughout. However instead, the rest of the game ends up being doing that same exact thing 100 more times until the game ends
@@brandiepop what does SSKTJL stand for?
@@ATinCanOnYTSuicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
I played Owinka shooter back in the day and it was one of my fav games of all time
3:24 Yeah, the very reason why the good ones are considered "hidden gems" is because there's a lot of slop these gems are hidden in.
And that's still relatively okay compared to AAA blandness.
Remember the days when rocksteady made batman Arkham asylum? That was their second game! Now a developers 50th game is pure torture
1 minutes in, i already identified the problem: expectation.
with the small games you have none, so you appreciate it better. but with big games, your expectation makes you disappointed with them.
That’s why i think we are entering a new golden age for indi games
Most of times the games made with a lot of marketing, but being poor in gameplay, are used to pump money for other projects. Yet they don't want it to be a complete loss
I feel mon bazou (and probably my summer car, but I haven't played that yet) is a good example of this too. It has nothing going for it in terms of graphics, but the gameplay is so much fun. It really has life in it, even with like 10 NPCs or something as well
altough its a much more serious project with unbelivable graphics, i would like to bring up Rings Of Eden
Try out The FINALS it’s a cool fps made by embark with a fully destructible map
One especially amazing game I found from a channel called Joeseppi (hope I spelled it correctly) is ‘Milo and the Magpies’. Amazing puzzle game, hand painted and made by a small Dutch dev team. Really recommend it.
By the way, it barely has any players (even after the video’s success) so it truly is an underrated masterpiece.
The game, "Once Human" had an issue where it was one character per account but the devs fixed the issue in a little over an hour because of all the feedback
Owinka Shooter is a great game, the speedrun's are crazy. Same with Owinka Shooter 2
very cool content, keep it up
"The important question is, is the game fun? If the game is not fun, why bother?" - a gaming legend
dani didnt get chassed of the internet, hes still active in his discord making something
I feel like capcom is one of the only AAA companies that seem to really want to make a great game first and foremost. The two games from them that come to mind are re7 and re4 remake. Re4 remake was a ton of fun. It was well polished, had great gameplay, and it was brimming with personality. Whether it’s Leon saying one of his witty or corny quips or even just simple things like character interactions the game is just filled with personality. Same goes with Re7 (which is my favorite horror game of all time) the game is absolutely terrifying and is for the most part really dark and creepy but it’s not afraid to loosen up a bit. Characters like Jack or Marguerite will sometimes say something really goofy but in a way that doesn’t feel forced and instead oddly charming. Ontop of that the gameplay is just amazing. It never feels tedious or too scary to get through. The game is still one of the scariest games I’ve played but despite how terrifying it is I always woke up every day excited to play more because of just how fun the core gameplay was. I even dreaded getting to the end of the game because of just how much of a blast I was having with it. More AAA companies need to see why capcom is so successful in their games and take some notes. They’re gonna need it.
I think a good example of this is technomancy studio's suits series. The first game was a pretty okay experience, normal rpg that is obviously inspired by OFF. But the sequel is mind boggling, I can't even describe the huge difference between the 2 games. Just look at "suits: a business rpg"(original game) and "suits: absolute power"(sequel) and you'll see just how much effort and passion went into it. the trailer is awesome, too. And the soundtrack even better. The 2 games are also incredibly cheap, even without a discount.
Alternate Title: Underrated Indie vs Terrible AAA Games. (for all you nerds out there)
Awesome vid man, i really enjoyed it :)
First game reminds me of a lower graphics Albino Lullaby.
Mostly because the enemies in Albino Lullaby... look... uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
VERY unique. But essentially they are also only beans with angry faces.
1:13 Hugbees put it best.
"This was on Google. They like everything on Google." So if its 28% on Google, then it must be really shit.
one armed cook/robber are some crazy good games
Dani made such great games.
7:10 smaller game companies usually have souls
I think the “charm” thing is because all these triple A games are polished to the point of nigh perfection (at least visually/stylistically) causing all of them to blend together. Lesser games make up for their lack of ray traced reflection mapped aerodynamic Cheek fuzz bullshit by actually having an artstyle and nost just trying to look like a photograph. You can see the thought put into every detail because an actual artist put effort into it with a vision beyond “make it look real”
another good "bad" game: dumball rush on steam. played it with 4 friends and its so funny lmao
Nintendo MAY have major issues with fan projects, but it knows how to do GAMES
SMO and TOTK ARE PHENOMENAL AND AMAZING
The original Naughty Bear on the PS3 is one of the most charming and addictive games on that generation. Got awful reviews because the performance is admittedly pretty poor, but it’s fun nonetheless.
Logomancer. Brilliantly designed. Interesting premise. Reskin of more traditional jRPG battle systems to reframe things as rhetorical battles. Original, hand-drawn graphics - some people hate them, but I think they have their charm and I respect that he made his own instead of using stock assets. And iirc it was mostly made by one dude w/ some help from his brother. And obviously made in RPG Maker, which usually isn't a good sign. In spite of that, I'd take this game over most mainstream jRPGs any day(including some that I also love quite a bit).
i really hope the AAA bubble is boutta pop and these corporate suits realize they either need to stop treating gaming like a service or just go under
4:20 there are plenty of good games that had some decent marketing that didn’t sell for one reason or another
Owinka shooter is just karlson If it got released
It doesn't feel manufacturered, it IS manufactured
Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League is actually a pretty enjoyable experience at least for picking the game up on sale
not gonna lie, i was only compelled to watch because of how confused the title made me
That's why I am excited to play Squirrel With a Gun
Mosa Lina is a 3 dollar indie game and I got twice as many hours out of it than I did with a full campaign of Baldurs Gate 3 lmao
Also some games start indie and become big like the battle cats (where my pfp is from) it started as a small group making games and now it has over 100 million plays ! Imo that’s better than it being a small indie game
"It is made by ubisoft" That's already one flaw of a game.
Rac7 is a studio that listens to people.
Theres a saying in gaming
"Gameplay over graphics"
the only AAA employies that i dont envy are the omdel and animation makers
no matter how you look at it, they are the only people that give soul to a game
and yet they can bearly do ANYTHING to make the game better
its just sad☹
Nintendo is the only game company that I actually play anymore because they value gameplay>graphics but don’t mess up in either I mean literally just look at the Zelda series. There’s never been a game in that line that was explicitly bad they always have been fun (imo)
6:49 what's this game called?
Animal Well
@@JustSaySteven thanks
bro gears 5 has good reviews on steam💀💀💀💀
i finally have the chance to recommend juice galaxy, not enough people talk about this game. There is only one guy wokring on it and the game's amazing. Imagine dark souls but floppy and with LSD. That's juice galaxy. It is unironically one of my favourite games ever and is way more fun and charming than most triple a slop.
Can also recommend 👌 Juice Galaxy is amazing
They should spend the hype advertisement money on paying the developers instead. If it's a great game people will flock to it.
underated games and overated games is like homemade food vs mcdonalds
You gotta try out “Super Ledgehop Double Laser”.
old respawn had such a down to earth feel to them.
now the ea bought out respawn seems so inhuman :(
When I heard the word charm it reminded me of the 50 billion Minecraft isn't good any more videos I swear you cannot find a single one of those videos without saying the word charm
Love your videos 🎉
ty :)
I truly wish that Anthem had worked out. I absolutely love the concept, and I think that that game could've been the best game ever, if only they didn't outright kill it pretty much. I wish there was a proper exosuit shooter that actually worked and didn't have all sorts of drama dragging it down.
why is this bald greekgodx
Good video.
Just one suggestion; stop using those captions, it makes it feel like if it was a brain rot TikTok begging for my attention span, even though it is not. If someone needs the captions, they will use the RUclips feature.
I’m sad that Dani basically got boo’d off RUclips and the entire internet
When I found your channel it felt like uncovering a hidden gem ❤
4:37 Whats the name of this cooking game
One-armed cook
I love a game called antimatter dimensions where 0.001% of the game is design, look and stuff 99.999% is pure gameplay
and 99% of gameplay is big number
@@hivijivi 1.8e308 gameplay
This is why 1 of my favorite games is slay the princess I think markiplier made this game blow up more but I am an artist or atleast consider myself 1 and I love being able to see how the background and princess are drawn and it has a very interesting story
7:48 unfortunately this is not true, so many people buy games just because of their graphics and keep arguing about new games graphics that are not realistic enough
6:34 how do you know this is why Dani has stopped posting?
BRO LIKES INDIE GAMES MORE THAN AAA GAMES
That's it. That's the video. That's your perspective. And it's cool, it's fine, I just don't understand why Indie game enjoyers feel so compelled to bash games they don't like so often.
The most simple things can have the most success
monkey war:
2 bucks (aud)
80c (aud) when on sale
low player count
poor graphics
best when playing with friends
10/10 better co op game than suicide squad kills the justice league
funniest game you'll play in a while
owinka is good, one of the only games ive actaully finished recently and thats saying something
i will say that while lots of big budget games stink, not all of them are terrible.
"Lets talk about skull and bones" please no
I always make the point that these low-quality games suck (mostly). There are good ones, definitely, but now they are just as soulless as the AAA ones. Most of them come right from watching Dani and think it's a good idea to make a bean-based game. Imo it feels like a pest that just needs to be fixed.
Please, just find an artist friend or try yourself. Sometimes the full-gameplay approach works, but it still makes your game feel worse.
3:19 what game is being played here
@@orsomethinlykethat gum ball run
If a big fun game gets big updates/spinoffs that are still just as good if not more fun as the original gamr you know they care
For example baldi
It has 3 games all of them are good and only plus costs money
And it is Super replayable
Or undertale and deltarune
In my opinion deltarune is already more fun than undertale and we only got 2 chapters so far
2 words of corporate origin, Cruelty squad
Nobody has ever said SS KTJL was good.
Nah, thinking about anthem still hurts me
Deep rock galactic.
Underrated but not bad in any sense of the word.
R.I.P. Dani
I LOVE OWINKA SHOOTER
one of bad games creator is MDICKIE, that man has madde awesome bad games for the passt 20 years
BattleBit (Indie) > Battlefield 2042
I´m sorry but exactly when did skull and bones even remotely seemed like it was gonna be a good game???
7:56 what is the game called please
Step by step
@@funndude3389 thank you!
It genuinely reminds me so much of roblox games where it looks shitty yet it has the most fun, depth, and personality poured into a game. a prime example of this is a game called decaying winter (my favorite roblox game of all time btw go play it lol) which at first look like shit but it has so much depth in its gameplay and so rich in lore to the point i spent like hundreds of hours in it. No wonder how a game that is made by a couple teenagers can be more fun than a game that has a 200million dollar budget poured into it.
Bro survive Area 51 is the best playable Roblox game