The SuperMega Drama is NOT What You've Heard...
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2023
- SuperMega has been facing controversy for a month thanks to videos released by lex updog and nickisnotgreen. And this has escalated into drama that risks taking down SuperMega entirely.
This is a video essay explaining the drama behind SuperMega, and nickisnotgreen's role in spreading misinformation.
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refreshing to see someone's take on this that isn't just shitting on lex and doubting her abuse story. i think nick and the others took advantage of how lex felt and weaponized that, so its nice to see someone making a video about how you can both be a victim and be hurt and angry while also doing wrong to others
its not really doubting her abuse story but rather her real intentions in coming out. cuz seems to me she's angrier at supermega than at her assaulter
@@justcallmejudge i JUST explained he's one of the few i've seen cover this story that *doesn't* doubt her abuse story dawg can you read
@@justcallmejudgecan you read??
@@zoen7034 yeap but skipped a few lines. mb
Yea, this was nice to see for sure. I also do think lex was manipulated by those who didn't like supermega as well to do more than was going to. It felt like in her vanurbale state they took advantage of her story and make her think and say more.
Nickisnotagoodperson
Look me in the eyes and tell me you're surprised
nickisyellow
Nickisnotajournalist
Nickisnothuman
Ive always hated nickisnotgreen 😂
I'm VERY surprised that nickisnotgreen has risen to the relevance that he has. I used to watch him when he made silly, unserious commentary videos similar to Danny Gonzalez or Drew Gooden, but when he posted about changing his content because he doesn't feel creatively challenged, I stuck around for a couple weeks. After his first few political and drama related videos, I unsubscribed because it is SO obvious that he is insanely biased, is very convinced he's a moral role model to others, and had very half-baked, empty arguments for his opinions. This was about two years ago, but since then, I've heard more and more abt him from newer fans saying he's getting worse and has bad takes. I'll be honest, even when he made more casual content, he was a red flag and gave off the impression that he felt highly of himself and that his opinion carried an important weight.
me too! i watched him back then, and i still sometimes view the videos on his second channel which are not political. but i HATE these new political ‘feminist’ content
Generally, I have zero issue with political or feminist content. His in particular just seems very performative because in defending one woman, he ends up acting in a way that I think is harmful to many others. It just feels like the video is meant to showcase how good of a friend Nick is than anything else.
@@JimmyRobins 100% agree. i’ve been feeling this way for a while but i couldn’t describe it. it’s like he wants praise and reading from a script of what the person wants to hear, rather than coming to an informed conclusion
@@JimmyRobins totally! A lot of his content has always come off as performative, in my opinion. He's so focused on putting on some sort of show or proving that he's a good person that he doesn't even *try* to do real research or contribute insightful input to any conversation he takes part in. I agree with a lot of his political values but it's painfully obvious that he copies smart arguments made by other people, but does not say them as well. That combined with his reckless/careless '"journalism" is dangerous
Yeah he so desperately wants to be looked at as an ally.
Looking at the full picture its clear that Matt and Ryan simply fumbled the situation, and while yeah they fucked up, they’re not these evil puppetmasters that Lex and Nick tried to make them out to be. And now these 2 are just gonna get off scott free after trying to ruin these guys lives, over someone else sexually assaulting a woman and them not knowing how to handle it.
Yeah, i saw comments telling nick to watch their videos they released on the situation, so i watched them and thought "damn, these are just dudes who fucked up."
And while 2 months ago everyone involved with tearing down SM sorta got off scot free, Nick and Ethan have taken significant hits due to their part in this. Karma just takes time.
The part about Daniel was rage inducing.
What's most sickening to me is that even if the boys called Daniel a coward or whatever, is that not like one of the most textbook reactions to grieving someone lost by suicide? How they could hold their grief against them is so beyond me. Everyone involved in this attempt to destroy SM's lives are absolutely cruel cretins.
@@KP-ov3mgbecause as soon as one thing negative happens people are going to reach at every little thing they could turn to fit their narrative. it’s genuinely disgusting and these people also think theyre good people for it too
I hadn't heard about any of this before since I stopped watching SuperMega a while ago, but hearing about Daniel was absolutely infuriating simply because when I watched them back when they were collabing with Markiplier as Cyndago/just starting SuperMega, I remember seeing just how much Daniel's death affected everybody. Bringing him into some petty drama like that was completely uncalled for.
Bringing in a dead loved one is NEVER fucking okay, and while I believe Lex about her SA, doesn’t mean I don’t think she and others victimized Matt and Ryan. She seems like a shitty person, victim or not
This is why I trust you. You were against Nick before he got "exposed". And for extremely similar reasons, too. Great work Jimmy!
I use to watch NickIsNotGreen after seeing him collab with other commentators in the community.
I’ve always had a weird feeling about his content, but I couldn’t put it into words. This video puts it perfectly into words.
The fact that those former commentators stopped doing stuff with him is telling.
@@TheQueenOfShebaI just hope this doesn’t put Ethan into a bad spot, now dating Lex
Even when I agreed with him, the route he took to make his points felt very iffy.
I don't blame Mista GG, either
I watched for like one week and I just thought his content ajd takes were just boring idk. So weird to see people find him entertaining
Nickisnotgreen spreading misinformation who would have thought
I'm very disappointed with him spreading. Misinformation because I used to love his videos. But I don't usually watch them anymore because they're kind of boring to me now.
@@RossiiiChan not to mention its such lazy content, he posts so often too..
@@RossiiiChanI still watch him and really like him. It's just that I know his level as a person and what to take seriously. His opinions on politics are shallow level leftist takes which as a leftist myself I find funny compared to someone like Ethan or Noah or Pinely etc. He is the little kid who has popularity because he looks hot and the girlies like him and he let that get to his head. He will always defend his friends and preach what a great person he is with zero retrospection.....like I still watch his videos and find some enjoyable....but I just recognize what a ridiculous guy he is and make sure I never take him seriously. While I also believe women always when he started speaking about this mega story the moment he mentioned the victim was his friend I said to myself "this video isn't gonna be a reliable information video for sure I should look into it more) cause I know what he is like.
I like Nick but the drama videos are lazy. He said in one of the videos that he didn't really do any research. It's weird to throw out content without any real motivation or care.
Some of yall are so dumb it's insane. Legit feel bad for your friends and family.
Yeah i never liked nick. Dont know much about him but i can tell hes definitely the type of male feminist who would tell me "shut up stupid women, i the male feminist, know more about your woman issue and i telll you how to feel, think, and what to say"
Where did you ever get that idea from
@@hannah4669Probably by his actions
@@drewnader1726 where in his actions has he seemed like the kind of guy to speak over women or act like he knows more than other people??
@@hannah4669dont know about the woman part but danny gonzalez videos where he's also part of are a good example lmao
He is absolutely that type, I would bet money he thinks transfemmes belong in women's bathrooms and prisons against our will.
I’ve been with supermega since their early game grumps days and this was heart breaking to watch. I hope they can heal from this
Same. They will come back from it. Both Matt and Ryan came out looking a bit bad with the cheating and whatnot but I think most their subscribers understand that it's hardly a huge issue.
they can't come back from this. they will never be funny again, they can never make an edgy joke again. theyre going to be a safe channel now. like Achievement Hunter did.@@RisingRevengeance
@@RisingRevengeance Nope, won't happen. They shouldn't of pandered to highschool/colleged aged, "RAMONA FLOWERS" type women, let alone hire one. It's pretty ironic too, that their type of audience throws around the word toxic all the time, but fill with bloodlust the second they hear a rumor. They can never do their style of humor again.
As optimistic as I want to be for it, I think this is the end unfortunately
just found out today that AH was cancelled 4 days ago, 2 days after I said that it was over after a channel went "family friendly". i knew AH was in trouble when Fiona made the huge video crying during the George Floyd debacle. guess channels go woke when they know they're going to die and want to milk as much money out of the brand as possible. Countdown to FH shutting down? Is Jon Smith enough to carry FH on his shoulders? who knows, i don't watch them anymore.
It's a bit sad that Nick has kind of gained the trust of folks because he associated with very beloved and trusted commentary RUclipsrs like Danny Gonzalez, Drew Gooden and Kurtis Conner. Now sure, it's been a while since those collabs and I wouldn't be surprised if some of those creators will not collab with him ever again after this whole thing, but what's sadder (unless they want the videos deleted) is those videos will still be up on his channel for anyone to find, and anyone in the commentary fandom who's not informed on this specific situation could assume that Nick is a trustworthy individual, not realizing how biased and petty he can get.
The worst part about "RUclips drama" is the mad rush to make videos quickly to capitalize on the frenzy around the incident. As soon as accusations land, a hundred channels swarm in to make long essays about it as quickly as possible without spending any time on research or even basic fact checking. You'd think people would learn from the ProJared debacle, but no.
It really should be immediately suspicious when people don’t go to the authorities over stuff like this and choose to post on social media instead. And then STILL don’t involve the authorities.. and then have celebratory streams or beg for money. I feel stupid for making a sympathy post on nickisnotgreen’s original video. I’m just glad I took the time to look into what Lex and nickisnotgreen are about so I could delete it.
Not shaming sex creators btw. I don’t care about that part. It’s all the shit flinging online and shady aspects of it all.
@@velfaern1716 well yes and no. This kind of stuff is impossible to prosecute really because there's not much by way of physical evidence.
I find it so insane that a grown adult is complaining about being housed for free
she is very entiteled
I don't really watch supermega but everything about the whole situation seemed so sus to me. Matt offering to pay for a friend to have an actual stable place to stay instead of sleeping in an office isn't creepy at all. It genuinely seems like he just wanted to help her and make her feel safe. It's all super frustrating especially since SA victims are already judged and not believed.
@@graciesugarbee yea yet how many times has this happened remember a few years ago with danny from game grumps all of it was just a lie
@nathanarms2540 that shit was insane. The whole sleeping with underaged fans and fans I'm general only for it all to come out as the underaged girl was just mad Danny wouldn't sleep with her so she wanted to ruin his life. That shit was insane
Especially in THIS economy. People would willingly suck dick to get a deal that good.
My friend lost his mom and I lost my brother. The best way to handle tragedy for us is humour, so we joke about it. It makes it seem less real if you joke about it; the alternative of avoiding the topic or wallowing in the sadness of it is a far worse alternative. I don’t expect everybody to share this coping mechanism, but it’s _very_ important to understand that it is a real one.
Exactly! Them trying to demonize Matt and Ryan for that was SO fucked up. I believe Lex about being a victim, but she is NOT a good person. She seemed more pissed at SuperMega than the dude who assaulted her!
I’ll give her the SLIGHT leniency that she MAY be honing in her anger at them (for stupid, entitled reasons) instead of Don because Don would illicit more of a fear response, perhaps, but… go to therapy? Talk to a friend? Anything BUT take this to the public? I have a VERY firm belief that just because you’re a victim, doesn’t mean you get to victimize others - period, full stop. Lex seems deeply, DEEPLY… I wouldn’t say disturbed, but mental, perhaps.
What sucks the most about drama channels in general is that they dip into everything with a huge bias. They've already decided for themselves who they think is wrong and go from there. I used to like Nickisnotgreen but nowadays I can't watch them because they're so boring and repetitive in the way they talk and react to things. They're parroting what their audience wants to hear and feeding the hate, not exactly good faith journalism by any means. Excellent video Jimmy, I appreciate your objective take on issues like this. Waiting for all the evidence to come out has and always will be the only way to properly go about a situation like this.
I think it's worse than having a bias. They feed on drama, which means they automatically assume that whatever terrible accusation has been made is true, because it makes for a more salacious story. They aren't journalists by any stretch, all they're interested in is the attention that comes from "OH MY GOD LOOK AT WHAT THIS PERSON DID."
@@ZachGatesHereit’s like a bias that thrives off its reciprocal relationship with how it feeds (and feeds on) power & control. Which is what I think ultimately makes the ethical issues that much more pronounced.
It’s literally a pattern with him. The dude can’t even cover tiktok drama without screwing up and regularly advocates for unjustified cancellation. He should just stay away from this type of content.
He’s an authoritarian - power’s his drug.
If your biased and that bias is going to hinder you from making an objective stance... then don't morally grandstand and try to have a stance without expressly disclosing it. Frankly I'm more surprised there's no complaining from nick needing to get a video out because the algorithm and number chasing, because that seems like the best excuse for how poorly his work mostly is.
Like if he just wanted to support his friend, he could just make a community post linking her video.
nickisnotgreen seems to be this generation's imallexx
you would think commentary channels would have learned from alex by now
@@louguine I would've thought they'd have learned from PrisonMateLuke tbh
@@FrostyMantleM i hardly remember him i wont lie, dont think i ever watched a single one of his videos
In my opinion most commentary channels are tumors. Like 99%.
“This generations”?? That was only a few years ago, not 15 years ago lmao
I’m not sure how Lex hasn’t been called out for her whoreaphobia. It’s as if she considers herself to be above other types of sex work, based on how she speaks about others in the industry. If she chooses to stay in the industry, it’s advisable she gets a mentor ASAP, as she’s listed off all these situations that she has ended up in potential danger. As much as some would like to think OF is not sex work, it’s important to learn personal safety as sadly, just being in this field is enough to bring out the worst in people.
I used to follow Lex on Twitter before this incident happened and I don't really remember her saying anything about other sex creators? Do you have any specific examples? Just curious, all I remember was her shitposting and retweeting artists in between her own art and lewd content.
Please don't call us hoors yo
Ehh i think her weaponization of SA is worse than what is basically a personal opinion.
@@gypsylee333truth hurts yo
Anyone who would classify OF as something other than "sex work" is either dumb, or has an OF and wants to avoid a stigma that shouldn't exist. It's sex work.
This is probably the most concise video showing the big bullet points of this controversy, massive kudos to you.
Im just gona say its nice that this gets some coverage from someone whos brand is not being like anti-woke or whatever
I feel bad saying it, but Nick has a lot of bad takes.
The majority of nicks takes are bad unless it's the most common sense level shallow takes (like trans people shouldn't be bullied fat people shouldn't be bullied and conservatives are nutnobs). Anything below the most basic level of what anyone who isn't an idiot believes he loses the ball and has garbage takes. And I say that as a huge fan who enjoys his content. Just make sure you don't watch his content for his takes....also for his film taste cause every time he talks about films he shows that lacks too😅
@@Enel97Agreed. I was a fan of Nick when he first started doing the TikTok random drama stuff but then he got very weirdly political over every little thing. And I’m someone who has done a lot of political human rights activism. It’s just annoying seeing someone who has no background in politics bring it into literal tiktok drama. I just don’t get it. Some of his old reactions to the dumb stuff was really funny but now it’s like pulling teeth.
Why do you feel bad for it? The guys a piece of crap
@Enel97 same. I watch a lot of his videos, and Devon's as well, and they both have really stupid takes about things and both of them frequently come across as under-educated kids who are super naive and just don't understand on a fundamental level some of the things that they talk about. But I do enjoy it for what it is, junk food popcorn drama content on RUclips. I think if people are able to just take it for what it is in that vein and leave it there, it's fine. It's the people who start to take it way too seriously and think that they have to agree with everything he says that it becomes an issue.
Lately I've noticed this too, kinda disheartening
Bringing up Daniel is not okay. Like you said, even if what was said was true, they get full passes to say whatever they want. They're traumatized. That was their best friend.
How do you not understand the concept of off limit topics like that?
I understood it all the way through that that was not something they should've done, it took Nick roughly 4 months to finally get it.
I was looking into Nick's subreddit because it seemed like other creators had been quietly disassociating with him for a while. I was not expecting to find all of this information. I'm not surprised, because a lot of fans have tried to hold him accountable in the past, and he's either played the victim or outright ignored them.
Nick has always rubbed me the wrong way, his hot takes are HOT and he’s directly sent people to harass others in the past… so when everything came to light and his video was the one blowing up, I knew in my gut things were going to be messy and mean.
nick is just gonna walk away scot free acting like he’s in the right, saying inflammatory statements that are so easy to see are just outright false, but since he does it fast enough and with enough volume, it still affects people. the ignorance is so infuriating, i really wish he would face larger backlash, hopefully this video blows up
I agree. I watch(ed) him a lot mainly for the stupid and silly videos but with the more serious videos he posts, he loses me... I'll prob unsubscribe to him. People always show their true colors at some point.
If you've followed this you likely know but I'm very happy to inform you that you're wrong, Nick has not walked away with clean hands regarding this. He took a significant hit, thankfully.
@@plague8163 glad to see, was surprised
SuperMega simply managed a serious situation poorly, then got their name dragged through the mud with lies and inaccuracies! They truly don't deserve all this drama and I hope they come through this on top and even more successful than they were when they left off.
Holy shit I didn't expect to hear about Daniel again after all these years... That hurt my heart. Matt and Ryan could have handled some things a lot better, but they're not perfect.
Lex should not have been assaulted. No one deserves that, and I really hope she can heal and that the man who assaulted her falls down some stairs. But her attacking them this way, and going the lengths she did to slander them is bullshit. Nick just sucks as a person. His content is slapped together and he himself admits in several videos that he doesnt spend a lot of time researching what he talks about. Honestly it feels like Nick is just looking to benefit from everything Lex has put out about SuperMega.
I did not expect this. I watch nicks videos and enjoy them. Sucks to see he’s not the person I thought he was
It’s times like this that I wish people were more aware of the rape case of Alice Sebold, author of The Lovely Bones. Rape and SA are SERIOUS issues that needs to be handled delicately and with nuance, but when the internet and public get involved, that hardly seems to happen, and it often times horrifically feeds in to more people being victimized. Reading the story of her case is why I will ALWAYS believe a victim, but won’t immediately condemn whoever they say attacked them.
(For those unaware, a rape kit and documented physical trauma confirmed Alice had been raped. She was VERY confident that she could identify her rapist. So she did.
Except, the man she identified was innocent. He wasn’t her rapist.
DNA collected from the rape kit confirmed it about twenty years later.
Now, an innocent man is also a survivor of rape, having been assaulted numerous times as many sexual predators are in prison. The number of victims doubled, because nobody did any investigating. THIS is why nuance matters.
Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk)
i had to unsub from nick after his coverage of the supermega incident. incredibly unfortunate that all it took to bring them down like that was for nick to go spreading misinformation about them and dragging their names through the mud for literally no reason. hopefully supermega comes back from all this, im gonna really miss them if they never make videos again
"They offered to pay me to live in my own apartment...alone, and i was weirded out by it" - Lex
Are you kidding me?!
Thats a good thing, whatchu mean?!
Matt and Ryan arent doing the bare minimum, they said you could stay at Supermega plex for the time being, and they offered housing for you.
Im glad she decided to get personal with stuff and mention things that are not related to the situation cuz now a bunch of people are starting to see how much of a liar she is.
I do believe the part where she says she was sexually assaulted, but the fact that she is mostly pushing the blame on Supermega and not the actual guy, is stupid.
Do you believe her SA just because she is a woman or you think there is credibility to the claim?
@@postnutauthoritariandoesn’t matter her gender, its the way she handled her situation that is stupid and reckless, she should’ve focused on the actual issue instead of talking about things that barely or don’t even relate to the situation at all
@mauropereira187 That's why her credibility of her SA is put into question. So I'm just wondering why people are believing Lex over Don.
@@postnutauthoritarianthe SA is not the part where she lied, have you watched this video, or do you just want to turn this into an argument??
@shinkukirai I was just wondering why people are so willing to give merit to her allegations despite it being proven that she is a dishonest person.
Awesome video. Gokanaru has been covering this and calling out Nick for this since August. I actually pointed him to your Gus Johnson coverage a while back because I shared a similar perspective on Nick's coverage on that situation. I couldn't find his video but yours showed everything it needed to show, and you gave a perfect breakdown of it. Keep up the great work. You clearly spend more time digesting things and constructing your point on your channel. That is very respectable.
I haven't trusted him since the gus situation
woah what happened there?
@@ditzyblues basically he was pretty biased in covering the gus johnson / sabrina situation, and was very misleading in recounting the situation to his audience. which seems to be pretty on brand for him considering his recent behavior, sad he hasn't changed
@@BigBeatlesFan121 ahh i see. biased towards gus?
@@ditzybluesno towards sabrina
@j.p.4152 yeah but isn't that kinda understandable? Gus is objectively an asshole
You have summarized days worth of she said/he said chaos in such a digestible way; thank you for putting the time in. I wish people would realize the real world fall out that these mobs unleash; like, beyond matt & ryan themselves, supermega had employees, all of which are seemingly unemployed now. They had partnerships with other creators and companies, that economic impact doesn't just go away when the drama fades. The affect is almost entirely negative, beyond the scope of just their channel being nuked. I hope they come back one day, but that for now they take the time that they deserve to live free from bullshit.
"Sounds like they're not perfect people, is that all it takes to get your name dragged thrugh the mud?"
Unfortunately, _yes._
Excellent video as always bruddah :]
Thanks, man. Appreciate it!
Yea I watched as I was watching his video I found it weird when he just straight up doxxed a girl who has nothing to do with the situation. It felt really scummy and out of pocket.
I feel bad for Matt and Ryan they handled the situation poorly and even admitted that and apologized and took responsibility and were bullied off the internet for it, it's a damn shame now we don't know when or if they will ever be back, they were not bad guys this Lex person really can't believe that some people just genuinely want to help and be good people and I feel sorry that she can't believe in that it's sad really
ngl I been waiting for you to make a video on this since the boys made their apology videos
This is a insanely good video and I hope this gets traction. The whole situation was a mess and I feel like a lot of people heard the rumors at face value and turned their back entirely instead of seeing both right and wrongs
I believe Lex was sexually assaulted, but I don’t think she seems like a very good person. Both can be true, at the same time.
Edit: It almost seems like Lex is more pissed at Ryan and Matt than her own sexual abuser. As an SA survivor, I will admit that’s sketchy AF. Shouldn’t her big problem be with Don?
In regards to grief, I lost my husband to suicide in 2020 and I make jokes in regard to him all the time. That definitely should've been something that was off limits to even mention. Love your vids as always!
Dawg. What.
im really sorry to hear that, i hope things have been better for you. No one deserves to go through that.
So you're the type of woman to leave men hanging aren't you.
Uh huh.
holy fuck.
not to be that guy but I've never been able to understand why people like nick... he's always seemed so passive aggressive and stuck up to me... i always wondered why danny and kurtis hung out with him, he doesn't match their energies AT ALL.
I do 100% agree that most of this situation is just petty shit that shouldn't have been posted online. The grossest thing to me is that while Matt and Ryan are clearly not perfect, Lex has the gall to say they made her homeless. Cost of living in LA is insane, but how was she living for months in the office without saving up at all? She could have taken the offer of $10,000 and maybe move somewhere else in the country more affordable or with another friend. I just don't get her perspective.
I disagree with people using the term homeless when they actually are just couch surfing or willingly refusing housing because they want to find something better and they have enough support and resources to float around safely. "Homeless" implies a lack of basic privileges, it is not a choice. Also you don't get robbed in LA because you're homeless, you get robbed because its LA and you left your shit out lol
Entitlement… probably from all the attention she was getting on Twitter.
Fr though, this is my main problem with the internet, there's a lot of personal shit that just shouldn't be posted online
"now unlisted" istg these people
Thank you so much for covering this. I feel like lex was manipulated by everyone else so they could get their supermega downfall, and yeah… it’s like… none of this is about the actual assaulter…
GOD JIMMY I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
i know quite a few creators that give a nuanced thorough perspective on the things they cover, but 1. you keep it really engaging- i sit and watch your videos instead of listening. 2 you always cover topics ive been looking for and i cant find anywhere else. The videos on the gus and Sabrina situation were the only ones i had found that had covered both sides without being extremely biased towards one or the other.
I cant get past how much Nick and Lex look like the same person. Creeps me out.
Nick is lazy and has a protagonist complex where he has to be the "good guy" which has been leading to these messes he involves himself into.
I'm making assumptions, Lex might have just used small gripes other people had, blew them out if proportion and gaslit her friends into thinking it was a bigger deal than it was. I've seen this tactic before
He is the good guy sometimes and lets that dictate how he thinks of himself, and even then when he's the good guy its something as basic as "this guy shouldn't simulate raping real life women that he shared a platform with and shouldn't be allowed to blatantly break the rules" like yeah good take but its so basic.
JIMMY BE COOKING GOD DAAAMNNN. This is the M Knight Shyamalan plot twist drama content I love from this channel
The thing about Rav and Lex 'backstabbing' and still being upset and how the situations were handled is such a red flag. I have been in situations where I have accepted apologies that I didn't think were valid, or where no steps had been taken to remedy the issue BUT that's my issue. Just as it is Lex and Rav's issue. They can't accept apologies and then a year down the line act like SuperMega didn't do anything.
Californian here.
You're telling me that someone complained about free housing... in _LOS ANGELES?_ That's an odd thing to complain about in general, let alone in one of the most expensive places in the US to live. I live in a $2500 a month _studio apartment_ because that's all I could find in my area, and I have a partner with chronic _severe_ health problems (routine hospitalizations).
And she was offered free room and board during a crisis.... and then complains about it being "weird".
*Seriously?*
As someone who watches Nickisnotgreen, I am glad I didn’t watch that video. I might unsubscribe to him if he’s going to be that reckless with information like that, I don’t think I can really trust him for information on these topics. It’s very disappointing to see him give false information and just be one-sided.
My only knowledge of Supermega was from Lanza, but the way he was talking about it made it sound kinda…victim blamey or at least just not great because he was explaining how she should’ve felt about being assaulted. In this video though, Jimmy really explains the points that had nothing to do with the assault and her just saying things to hurt Supermega. I think this video makes more sense, it’s really well done and properly researched. The tone actually suits what’s being talked about and is not rude, this is great. ^^
I've been obsessed with the SuperMega coverage since it came out. Digesting every bit of media that came out that could help the guys with their case and also hold accountable the parties that took part in this defamation/cancellation attempt.
This is by far my favorite video on the SuperMega situation...
Thank you for this video. What happened to supermega was blown completely out of proportion and there are so many bad actors involved in this situation. Its really unfortunate.
I'm just glad someone points out most of the problems I had with all these situations.
i work for a channel that works w nick a lot so i’ve always kinda kept my opinion to myself but man his own content has never appealed to me. i’ve always loved commentary but he always came off as misinformed or uninteresting to me, two unacceptable qualities when your goal is to provide information to people as a form of entertainment. i’ve tried to give him the benefit of the doubt time and time again but i always end up maintaining that hater energy, and this has only strengthened that :/
First video I’ve watched from you and it feels explained exactly how I felt from this whole topic
Damn Ryan has been through some shit the last 10 years i feel for the guy big time. Dude is a trooper and im glad he has found success. Hope dude lives a good life. To me Matt is still the new Cyndago guy who looks funny after all these years and apparently was bangin a PronStar Thats kinda funny bro.
This entire situation boils down to someone overlooking their own sexual assault simply just to spite their friends, it’s disgusting and I miss Matt and Ryan, I hope when they’re feeling ready they get back to making their goofy amazing jokes.
What the fuck do you even mean
I hate to agree since Its such an awful thought but yeah...
to be honest with the amount of inconsistencies in her story I don't even believe she was sa'd
Bro I spent the first 45 seconds of this video waiting for the first verse of Cradles to drop, that loop got me, lmao
Thank you so much for making this ❤️
This was a great first impression for me. Good stuff
Im so glad you made a video about this. Whenever i dive into Drama I always feel like the crazy one. Nicksnorgreen is especially bad. Then i see you made a video about this and come to the same coclusions/ make the same observations. I'm glad you can articulate what i see much better than me.
That ending is SUCH a brilliant summarization of the internet today.
Can someone explain how super mega didnt handle the initial sexual assault incident well? im a bit confused. From this video i gathered that they did handle it well by not going public like lex wanted, and firing the person that did it. But then lex said that she wanted them to go public on twitter?
From what I understand, the didn't fire Don immediately and since Don claimed it was a misunderstanding, they set up a meeting with Don and Lex to try and talk it out.
Definitely not the best way to handle it, but also it was a situation they just weren't prepared for or equipped to handle properly.
@@candysiandi ah yea I remember that from the video now, thanks
I'm glad that the assessment I had of the situation (which was hardly a situation) pretty much adds up based on the information available, which I trust you did justice in presenting because I only just started watching your content the other day. The only thing I missed was NickisnotAGoodPerson's "input" on this situation and how it's already been privated/removed. Your consistent coverage of his outright L I E S is immensely helpful in the sphere of RUclips commentary.
Great video! Pretty sure it’s being given low priority. It’s not being recorded in my watch history and I needed to search very specifically to find it again.
The problem with most of these drama/commentary channels is the same problem that mainstream news stations have: It's all performative, biased, and most of all, for profit. Everyone wants to be first to break the story so they can get the most attention and make the most money, which means a lot of jumping to conclusions without knowing the full facts. Being first also let's you direct the narrative that most people will be exposed to, and then appeal to their little clique of friends that benefit from siding with them.
No one actually wants to know the truth, and they take advantage of that to make the situation worse. Every exposed youtuber is just another bounty they collect for their own pockets as they move on to the next person that gets cancelled, while relishing in looking like a good person by comparison, even if everything they said is muddled by misinformation.
I'm so glad you made a video about this in such a balanced way! lots are out of the loop and there's finally a good video that sums up everything neatly. Nick saying the criticism he's getting is "the fanbase of a debate bro" was insufferable. The concerns people had with his videos are entirely on his really bad video. I hope this video gets a lot of traction.
People being upset over this are sincere. Its not manufactured outrage by big streamers! but hey Nick, i guess it takes one to know one...
seeing the amount of people criticizing him is comforting. watching some of his latest videos ive felt his input was so unnecessary and over dramatised and sometimes his personal response felt on an unwarranted level aggressive. glad im not alone in this
Since we hit the 2020 decade, we have see many creators been exposed for the worst things and how its became normal and expected to see.
While im unfamiliar with SuperMega's content as i never watched them or heard about them until this situation happened, im with you on the fact the people use the internet to try use it as therapy instead of dealing with this with a friend or finding ways to let it out in a healthy manner and how on drama channels don't wait for a situation to be done in order to get all the facts and info right with zero bias, cause it would look better for them to be on the side of a victim rather say the real evil wasn't even evil to begin with.
thanks dawg i figured as much and glad someone is saying things about the situation. and for that you deserve a sub🤝
Thanks voor this vid. I finaly understand what is going on
There honestly just seemed to be a lot of holes and misdirection all around. The bias was outrageous on Nick's part and im not particularly a fan of his "self-righteous", "holier than thou" type of personality. It just clearly shows his insane bias, even though he claims he "looked into it" and what not. He honestly sprinted at the opportunity of the drama just to gain some clout and traction to his content, in my opinion. I prefer videos like yours, where you take a clear good look at all sides before coming to a conclusion of your own. And then present it to others so they can just decide what they think for themselves. I don't particularly like clearly-biased "journalism" that is really just trying to start extra drama. Like they always say, he made an mountain out of a mole hill. If I remember correctly, I think I remember Nick even stating that he just "had to rush to make a video". Not quoted directly like that or maybe it's a different video of his, but I remember him saying that. Which is not good professionalism for journalism of "drama". It just all seemed insanely misguided. I loved hearing your input on this video, man! Keep it up! I don't care how long the videos take to make, I love the insight that comes with them when they do come out. :)
I’ve been waiting for nickisnotgreen fans to realize he sucks for at least a year now (when I, a nickisnotgreen enjoyer started realizing he sucks)
damn, can't believe problem glasses and soft boy would be such duplicitous drama mongers. Very unexpected, could have never seen this coming.
What a weird fucking thing to say
seeing this video and Nick in the thumbnail is the first i've heard the SuperMega controversy in any way.
i watch quite a bit of commentary content at work, and i enjoyed Nick casually- even until recently- and tbh i'll probably watch other videos of his if the content is a topic i care about or think he'd have an interesting take on...
but the last few videos of his that i've watched have been him just regurgitating drama he doesn't know anything about, while saying things like "i guess" and doing "research" mid-video. that's not commentary, that's just a content mill.
he's even said something like 'i don't really want to cover/i don't care about this but i need to make a video". hard to take someone seriously when they're actively learning about something on camera WHILE also casting moral judgements at the same time.
now to watch this video...
Thanks for summarizing! I had only watched Matt and Ryans videos. They seemed genuine and it sounds like they were. It seems pretty clear that Lex is just desperate for attention.
I mean yeah cheating and such is bad but hardly anything we should care much about.
Handling sexual assault concerns are difficult and I’ve even had training on how to handle them based on my job. Did Matt and Ryan mess up with how they handled it? Probably. I don’t know because I wasn’t there. But I wouldn’t necessarily fault them if they did. It’s an extremely sensitive topic and they probably handled it the best way they knew how.
Woman who's a victim of SA here! Honestly, I am disappointed in Nick for not truthfully reporting a topic and doxxing that woman. The focus was definitely taken off Don and forwarded to supermega. Now, I think the way Supermega handled it wasn't good. As a woman who's been a victim it hurts to see people in power not speak up. I do, however, think their video apologies were pretty good and I empathize that Liz had never asked for them to speak up. Overall, I think this situation is nuanced and everyone played a part in slinging shit. Nick should've disclaimed that he had bias, that he wants to create an outlet for a friend, and not inserted himself so hard esp reporting misinformation nonchalantly. I do think what Liz went thru is absolutely horrendous and I don't want to perpetuate the "perfect victim" stereotype so I won't say too much on them I just hope they're able to heal their pain because even though most see it as a vendetta I understand why she's reacting the way she is, as a victim, even if it's sometimes irrational.
So what I'm gathering is this Nick guy took the Lex woman's video, which was already inflammatory and vindictive by itself, and used it to fuel his own smear campaign? Is that right?
Imagine having free housing in LA and complaining about it
Hey if you can, can you cover what allegedly happend with Madison and Ltt (Linus tech tips)? I tried my best but I could not understand really what happend. If you of course wan't to cover it.
And btw great video!
Doubt he will, since there's very little public information - LMG has hired a third party investigator to look into the allegations, and they have a policy in place to not discuss it internally or externally until that investigation is done. If he makes a video on it it would probably be after that report comes out, which will probably take quite some time.
Back in 2021 (I think, I know it was a while ago) a girl (a black woman) made a TikTok about performative feminist commentary ytbers and the example she used was nickisnotgreen. She got literally harassed by his fans and even HASANHABI went after her to defend nick (and I’m pretty sure that’s why they even became acquainted) because Hasan used to do the same type of shit (idk about now, I don’t watch his streams clip anymore). Nick even made a dumbass video to defend himself, which if I remember correctly, was seen as some guy trying to be a fucking saint. I just find it insane that around two years ago, someone made those criticisms about him and he hasn’t changed, dare I say got even worse. If he continues to down this path I might become the new commentary clown of the year.
Who was this?? I remember a girl made a similar video but she was white. Nick mentioned it on twitter and she ended up going private. I didn’t know it happened more than once😭
@@sarahlee2715 I really don’t remember her name, but I think I might have followed her so I’ll look into that. And also yes this happened so many times it’s actually embarrassing for him
thank you so much. we need our boys back.
Very thankful I've never watched any of Nick's videos. Another Jimmy W
Another banger Jimmy
i saw the thumbnail of Nick's video when it released, and just ignored it because I felt like I couldn't emotionally handle it at the time. I have watched SuperMega for a while, and I believe that Matt and Ryan are generally reasonable and good people, even if their humor is edgy. Anyway, at the time i saw that Nickisnot green thumbnail, I had casually watched his videos and had a generally positive view of him. Between then and watching this video, I saw your thumbnail for your "wolf in sheep's clothing" video about Nick (which i have yet to watch as of writing this but plan to), as well as this one. And I also saw the thumbnail for the 2 plus hour feature film length Turkey Tom video- but frankly, while I'm sure it probably has a lot of good information, i value my time and do not wish to watch a video that long about the topic.
I finally got up the strength to deal with this mentally, because after the Gus Johnson situation I really have felt disallusioned about putting like or favoring or trusting any content creator. I realize from seeing thumbnails of yours about the situation that Gus Johnson may have not actually been guilty of what I thought he was back then and Sabrina did not handle the situation as well and may have even just lied... and i am willing to watch those long videos to reassess what i think of all that.
However, that is neither here nor there, as my point of this paragraph is to say that I am a trusting person, and I have found it difficult to engage in parasocial relationships and youtube/content creator drama after that situation dissalusioned me from the kind & essentially perfect person facade Gus put up. Regardless of Gus's or Sabrina's guilt, etc etc, I have realized through this situation, the SuperMega situation, and a recent personal situation involving my warranted mistrust and cutting ties from an ex-friend, who turned out to be a way worse person than I once thought, that people are complicated. People contain multitudes. And both drama and accusations of abuse should be treated with the weight they deserve, and the real truth should be sought out no matter what, **because people are always imperfect.**
I realized I was close to the situation as a fan of the SuperMega channel, which is why I have time to engage with the situation. I am now going to watch Matt and Ryan's apology videos, but probably not Nick's video because i see how he views himself as self-important now and just don't care to watch his videos or engage with him ever again.
On a related not, given Nick's and Lex's closeness to Ethan Is Online and Dev Lemons, I am going to find it difficult to reengage with that sphere of online content now. I will probably only watch and care about Dev Lemons now, as her friendship with Nick is a bit regrettable, but real life friendships are not parasocial friendships and I find it hard to judge her for that friendship, when she has shown no sign of doing anything objectionable beyond just that friendship/musician collaboration with Nick as Queef Jerky.
All of the youtube drama part aside, I am disgusted by the assaulter. I enjoyed their channel art for SuperMega for years, and their occasional presence in the channel's drunk drawing videos, but looking back I feel gross knowing they would eventually commit SA (-allegedly- I say that for legal reasons etc). I am glad Matt & Ryan cut all ties with them. Because I believe survivors, and try my very best to do so no matter the complicated circumstances. Unless there is provable and unmistakable evidence that an assault was fabricated- but even then i stay cautious, because people are good at hiding shitty things. Point is- **Believe surivors, regardless of how you feel about their actions, etc.** This mindset is how we stand firm against SA and other abuse, and change our culture one small step at a time.
Anyway, all that to say that people are complicated, trusting people irl is incredibly difficult, making trust in parasocial relationships infintiely more difficult and next to impossible. And I am tired. But wiser for it. I will no longer just take people's word for things online without thinking critically about their own biases and agenda. And I would advise you all to do the same. Peace
I remember when he posted his video it was before super mega released a statement. He mentioned the victim is a friend of his so if he clarified he would appear biased, that would be understandable. But his takes felt very intense for someone who posted before the response videos ://
Good title because I’ve never heard about it
I've been a fan of supermega for years and I'm not gonna stop being a fan I'm on their side 100% and there ain't nothing anyone can say that won't stop me from being on their side and a fan.
as a person who had a friend do that i dont know what id do if i ever met any of these kats and people that know me knows they better not meet me and thats facts this is pissing me off bad please dont let them cross paths with me im so done
Yes thank you finally
It's must be a slow news day if people are still talking about this.
This video needs and deserves WAY more views.
It feels weird seeing my name in a video
(I was one of the guys who you asked to comment)
I have never witnessed a more transparent attempt at a smear-piece than Lex's video. I'm sorry but if you spend 5 minutes claiming to be the victim of S.A. and 2+ hours gossiping about other people's hook-ups and complaining that you had to pick up after yourself in a place you were living rent-free, you're basically forcing anyone who watches your video to think that your assault was less traumatizing than light housework.
You my friend, have earned a new fan.