He’s just repeating what he did in the 1999 tour combining the ds2 with the fz3. He’s always liked to combine the ds2 with other fuzz pedals. The ds2 really makes some fuzz pedals shine with the mid range boost. I love pairing the ds2 with my fz2 clone and tc rusty fuzz.
Thank you for the JF content. I was thrilled to come across your vids since the band started touring with John again. A pedalboard video would be awesome!
Thank you for acknowledging context! So many just say here you go, just like JF! Always makes me laugh even when in context between live and the record
In the context of getting his sound, other than the Turbo Mode and having the gain at least at 12 o'clock or past that the other settings don't matter at all because their place (tone and level) will depend on amp type, volume, response, etc .. not to mention that playing stadiums, venues is a lot different than playing with a laptop and a combo in an apartment/bedroom in terms of volume. Even having the same exact JF equipment also does not matter because all the sudden he changes those settings .. sooner or later.
I've had both Made in Japan and a new one, and the only way I was able to tell is on the bottom where the label says "Made in x". I like to use John's choices as a starting point, but I don't try and force them to work for me when they don't. for example, I side lined my micro amp for the archer JB. I side lined the DS-2 for the Vemuram ODS-1 and Toni Iommi range master from Black Country Customs instead of a big muff. I've also gone back to my v1.5 WH010, because I don't like the boost in the V1, I find it too bright in my use. They just work better for me and are more flexible for other stuff I play. I like to collect, so I get wanting to mimic what John has, but I found what works for him doesn't work as well for me and I suspect John feels the same about his pedal choices. Additionally, people should not discount the impact the mixing boards and outboard gear have on his tone. I heard John's rig during sound check at stage volume and I thought it sounded raspy.
another thing to consider with the DS-2 regarding made in Japan vs Taiwan isnt that big a difference. However, I'm told there is a big difference with the DS-1.
@Dan Taylor ive got 3 black label ds1's and 2 mij ds-2. Depending how you set them they can sound almost the same but all the older ones have more usable range in the tone knob and my 2 mij ds-2's both sound awesome but a little different from eachother and one of them has had the shit gigged out of it.
You cant tell by looking at the ds-2 because mij old ones have a silver label and the newer style power jack. The mij do sound way better though i have 2 and they blow away the old ones and normally i use mit boss all the time but the new ds-2 is all midrange very harsh the mij is so much warmer! I wouldnt be suprised if hes using new ones though.
Yeah Im curious about that. He's not useing a low pass filter in Dani California at all.... And that's a shame because I love the sound of this moog pedal. And he is not even useing a wah pedal instead of moog. Only clean sound. That's interesting.
@@ondrablahos4601 he's not useing at all. Maybe for a Veronica but they never played this song. That's funny...he has a big pedalboard almost like in a Stadium Arcadium era but useing it like a Californication pedalboard
All i want to know how exactly he is setting up his CE1 Preamp and how he is setting up his compressors. Im getting pretty close with a compressor at the start off the chain and one after the CE1 being used in stereo mode. BUT its either nailing his clean tone or nailing the chorus tone. Whenever i get the clean tone right, the chorus has way too much gain going on. I can sort of roll back volume on compressor no1 but then my drive pedals and wah dont respond the way i want them and you can tell that im loosing alot of signal when i roll back that much. Any ideas?
There's plenty of photos (and Justin videos) showing John's CE-1 settings. The preamp's at 11 o'clock on the High setting. His compressor is at 1-ish o'clock and 11-ish o'clock from left to right.
I guess drive is the effect is in which guitar players are more volatile. Who didn't love a overdrive pedal and a few time later was thinking about a new one? So it seems natural to me that he tries other settings.
Is he use both DS-2 pedal turned on at the same time? i have heard he only uses the japan models which have germanium diodes which is a totally different tone
by the looks of those pedals, IMO they're probably newer version. They look too clean for extensively used pedal. I had my DS2 MIJ for years and got paint chipping away and the orange fading . I dont use it that often.
Around californication he ran his amps very dirty Then for by the way he cleaned the amps up a fair bit I'm pretty sure the micro amp is just to push the amps for those songs that need the amps overdriving
Barely a difference between the two. Mine seems to clean up a little with guitar volume that I would think could cover both of these. So i guess it's just for convenience.
Looks like an older SD1 compared to my newer one, I can’t say for sure on the DS2 but the older SD1s were more of a screaming yellow and current more of a zinc yellow at least that’ll make sense to any new edge Mustang guys out there. New SD1 are more pastel yellow and the older ones are vibrant although the stage is obviously a little dark and they all could be brand new Boss pedals but I thought the old ds2 was more orange and the older ones more yellow, who knows the good thing about boss is consistency the new pedals sound the same as the old ones the pots are all going to drift and I suppose you could have a ton of tolerance stack up one way on one and to the other end of their specs on a different one and maybe just maybe a regular non guitar nerd might be able to tell the difference but I seriously doubt boss allows enough variance in components that two would ever sound vastly different. New boss pedals sound as good as the old ones at least to my ears. The older been around the world or in and out of bars beat to death sure do look cooler than the brand new shiny ones. Someone is relicing brand new pedals right now I guarantee lol.
This is cool but do we really want to all sound identical to JF? I'd rather hear other interpretations of Chili songs using other pedals. If you're gonna sound just like JF, might as well start a tribute band and play RHCP covers in your basement.
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He’s just repeating what he did in the 1999 tour combining the ds2 with the fz3. He’s always liked to combine the ds2 with other fuzz pedals. The ds2 really makes some fuzz pedals shine with the mid range boost. I love pairing the ds2 with my fz2 clone and tc rusty fuzz.
And californication was copy of BSSM album.
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On the Howard Stern show I think he used it in combination with a tone bender.
@@SuperJiggawhatwhere did you get that info from? What bender? You mean stacking?
Will def be up for a complete pedalboard video mate! Thanks for the content
It looks so calm when they are filmed from the top haha, it's just like friends jamming
True! Needs more fog.
Thank you for the JF content. I was thrilled to come across your vids since the band started touring with John again. A pedalboard video would be awesome!
Thank you for acknowledging context! So many just say here you go, just like JF! Always makes me laugh even when in context between live and the record
In the context of getting his sound, other than the Turbo Mode and having the gain at least at 12 o'clock or past that the other settings don't matter at all because their place (tone and level) will depend on amp type, volume, response, etc .. not to mention that playing stadiums, venues is a lot different than playing with a laptop and a combo in an apartment/bedroom in terms of volume. Even having the same exact JF equipment also does not matter because all the sudden he changes those settings .. sooner or later.
I combine my DS2 with the Variac fuzz like John and it’s really amazing
what settings do you use man? I just can’t get them to gel well together
I've had both Made in Japan and a new one, and the only way I was able to tell is on the bottom where the label says "Made in x". I like to use John's choices as a starting point, but I don't try and force them to work for me when they don't. for example, I side lined my micro amp for the archer JB. I side lined the DS-2 for the Vemuram ODS-1 and Toni Iommi range master from Black Country Customs instead of a big muff. I've also gone back to my v1.5 WH010, because I don't like the boost in the V1, I find it too bright in my use. They just work better for me and are more flexible for other stuff I play. I like to collect, so I get wanting to mimic what John has, but I found what works for him doesn't work as well for me and I suspect John feels the same about his pedal choices. Additionally, people should not discount the impact the mixing boards and outboard gear have on his tone. I heard John's rig during sound check at stage volume and I thought it sounded raspy.
another thing to consider with the DS-2 regarding made in Japan vs Taiwan isnt that big a difference. However, I'm told there is a big difference with the DS-1.
@Dan Taylor ive got 3 black label ds1's and 2 mij ds-2. Depending how you set them they can sound almost the same but all the older ones have more usable range in the tone knob and my 2 mij ds-2's both sound awesome but a little different from eachother and one of them has had the shit gigged out of it.
Great advise as most people do not know or follow that. Everyone's rig is different even if it's the same tolerances come into play.
You cant tell by looking at the ds-2 because mij old ones have a silver label and the newer style power jack. The mij do sound way better though i have 2 and they blow away the old ones and normally i use mit boss all the time but the new ds-2 is all midrange very harsh the mij is so much warmer! I wouldnt be suprised if hes using new ones though.
I also noticed that John isn't using any effects in the parts where he would've used a low pass filter.
Yeah Im curious about that. He's not useing a low pass filter in Dani California at all.... And that's a shame because I love the sound of this moog pedal. And he is not even useing a wah pedal instead of moog. Only clean sound. That's interesting.
@@kubaemergencyfan makes me wonder what is he using the low pass filter for 🤔
@@ondrablahos4601 I'm thinking he's gonna use it for "Veronica" at some point
@@ondrablahos4601 he's not useing at all. Maybe for a Veronica but they never played this song. That's funny...he has a big pedalboard almost like in a Stadium Arcadium era but useing it like a Californication pedalboard
@@ondrablahos4601delay line6 has got a feature that replicate moog sound
Anybody else think ol anthony keidis is lookin like dude from the cover of S.C.I.E.N.C.E. by incubus?
Hahaha spot on
@Brett i love the phonetics. Well played. Also... to MAY toe/to MA toe.
All i want to know how exactly he is setting up his CE1 Preamp and how he is setting up his compressors. Im getting pretty close with a compressor at the start off the chain and one after the CE1 being used in stereo mode.
BUT its either nailing his clean tone or nailing the chorus tone. Whenever i get the clean tone right, the chorus has way too much gain going on.
I can sort of roll back volume on compressor no1 but then my drive pedals and wah dont respond the way i want them and you can tell that im loosing alot of signal when i roll back that much.
Any ideas?
There's plenty of photos (and Justin videos) showing John's CE-1 settings. The preamp's at 11 o'clock on the High setting. His compressor is at 1-ish o'clock and 11-ish o'clock from left to right.
So I guess he changes his settings all the time.
This.
I guess drive is the effect is in which guitar players are more volatile. Who didn't love a overdrive pedal and a few time later was thinking about a new one?
So it seems natural to me that he tries other settings.
Apollo video would be great 👌🏼👌🏼
Check Dave Mail 79, he used even 3 ds2's before.
I think John does not care anymore about the vintage versions of the pedals. I too think they are the modern Taiwanese models!
mine taiwan sound so harsh….
Is he use both DS-2 pedal turned on at the same time? i have heard he only uses the japan models which have germanium diodes which is a totally different tone
my all time fav pedal ds2!!!
5:11 what's on the label of the Super OD? DTSA #447?
I saw it too. Could it be QOTSA. Queens of the Stone Age??
@@sergiorodriguez6889it is
by the looks of those pedals, IMO they're probably newer version. They look too clean for extensively used pedal. I had my DS2 MIJ for years and got paint chipping away and the orange fading . I dont use it that often.
What's your take on how often the micro amp is used, and why it would be used. Cheers :)
Around californication he ran his amps very dirty
Then for by the way he cleaned the amps up a fair bit
I'm pretty sure the micro amp is just to push the amps for those songs that need the amps overdriving
Barely a difference between the two. Mine seems to clean up a little with guitar volume that I would think could cover both of these. So i guess it's just for convenience.
john needs to hook up with Custom audio electronics fix that board
Looks like an older SD1 compared to my newer one, I can’t say for sure on the DS2 but the older SD1s were more of a screaming yellow and current more of a zinc yellow at least that’ll make sense to any new edge Mustang guys out there. New SD1 are more pastel yellow and the older ones are vibrant although the stage is obviously a little dark and they all could be brand new Boss pedals but I thought the old ds2 was more orange and the older ones more yellow, who knows the good thing about boss is consistency the new pedals sound the same as the old ones the pots are all going to drift and I suppose you could have a ton of tolerance stack up one way on one and to the other end of their specs on a different one and maybe just maybe a regular non guitar nerd might be able to tell the difference but I seriously doubt boss allows enough variance in components that two would ever sound vastly different. New boss pedals sound as good as the old ones at least to my ears. The older been around the world or in and out of bars beat to death sure do look cooler than the brand new shiny ones. Someone is relicing brand new pedals right now I guarantee lol.
I use mode 1 on Ds2
They are the modern versions
You're like the Mike Lindell of Boss Pedals; or maybe you're Italian?
If your not.john, you won't sound like John. I bet if you ask John to dial in bssm tones,he might struggle just a tad to really nail it
This is cool but do we really want to all sound identical to JF? I'd rather hear other interpretations of Chili songs using other pedals. If you're gonna sound just like JF, might as well start a tribute band and play RHCP covers in your basement.
Lots of talking
Holy fanboy. 😂
lol this sh*t cracks me up. Who cares? Get your own sound and style dudes
The statement "who cares" on a topic that a lot of people clearly care about or find interesting always cracks me up