I'm sure the following point I'm about to make is another fallacy itself (red herring), but the problem with the hatchlings being lizards is, as far as I once read in a kid's animal encyclopedia (some of which included activities), lizard eggs are soft and leathery, and those are hard like real bird eggs.
Dude! I find it incredibly amazing how you can watch something like Simpsons and relate it to logical fallacies. You must be a huge nerd. just kidding. Thanks for sharing.
No, this is a false cause fallacy. I’m sorry, but this video isn’t correct! Your definition says that begging the question assumes that a statement is self evident or true when it actually requires proof. In other words, you are saying that begging the question is a fallacy of unwarranted assumptions. Indeed, begging the question is one of several fallacies of unwarranted assumptions. However, begging the question is when at least one premise of an argument presupposes the conclusion. In other words, begging the question is circular in nature, but Bart Simpson’s reasoning in this video is not. A false cause fallacy is another fallacy of unwarranted assumptions, but it occurs when one possible cause of a phenomenon is assumed to be the cause although reasons are lacking for excluding other possible causes. “Post hoc, ergo propter hoc” or “after this, therefore because of this” is one of the most popular forms of false cause fallacy, and I actually think it is the fallacy we’re seeing in this video. In this case, Bart Simpson deductively concludes that because the lizard eggs came from a bird’s nest, that the lizard eggs must come from birds. He is describing a false cause for the lizard eggs based on an unwarranted assumption, that eggs in a bird’s nest can only come from birds. This is a fallacy of unwarranted assumptions (like begging the question), but it is not circular in nature (the way begging the question is). I hope that helps. I’ve found that begging the question is a hard fallacy to identify, but it starts with having a solid definition. Begging the question fallacy occurs when a premise presupposes the conclusion it is trying the prove, aka arguing in a circle.
Lisa is also wrong on one point. Beaks aren’t something exclusive to birds I mean yeah all birds have beaks but not all beaks are on birds. I mean some turtles and a few mammals have them. I mean Lisa could have just said “They are lizards!” But tbh using Bart’s flawless reasoning, he’d think that birds who lay their eggs in the nests of other birds are the same specie.
It has 4 legs, a tail and Fur..therefore it's a dog. Does that make sense to you? It should not make sense to you because it doesn't make sense. Lisa was pointing out the things that make it lizard.It's not the things that could make it a bird.
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this is more of a sweeping generalization rather than begging the question
I'm sure the following point I'm about to make is another fallacy itself (red herring), but the problem with the hatchlings being lizards is, as far as I once read in a kid's animal encyclopedia (some of which included activities), lizard eggs are soft and leathery, and those are hard like real bird eggs.
Sir you don't know how much you help me. You sort out my all confusion regarding this phrase
Thanks for watching!
You should look a little deeper. This isn't a very good explanation.
Dude! I find it incredibly amazing how you can watch something like Simpsons and relate it to logical fallacies.
You must be a huge nerd.
just kidding. Thanks for sharing.
Homer didn't know he was onto something when he said those "birds" looked like dinosaurs!
The funniest moment is Bart saying "ickso fatso" 😂
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these are great
well, it can be a bird AND a lizzard
using the same clip for two fallacies.
what episode was this?
S10E3 Bart the Mother
No, this is a false cause fallacy. I’m sorry, but this video isn’t correct!
Your definition says that begging the question assumes that a statement is self evident or true when it actually requires proof. In other words, you are saying that begging the question is a fallacy of unwarranted assumptions. Indeed, begging the question is one of several fallacies of unwarranted assumptions. However, begging the question is when at least one premise of an argument presupposes the conclusion. In other words, begging the question is circular in nature, but Bart Simpson’s reasoning in this video is not.
A false cause fallacy is another fallacy of unwarranted assumptions, but it occurs when one possible cause of a phenomenon is assumed to be the cause although reasons are lacking for excluding other possible causes. “Post hoc, ergo propter hoc” or “after this, therefore because of this” is one of the most popular forms of false cause fallacy, and I actually think it is the fallacy we’re seeing in this video.
In this case, Bart Simpson deductively concludes that because the lizard eggs came from a bird’s nest, that the lizard eggs must come from birds. He is describing a false cause for the lizard eggs based on an unwarranted assumption, that eggs in a bird’s nest can only come from birds. This is a fallacy of unwarranted assumptions (like begging the question), but it is not circular in nature (the way begging the question is).
I hope that helps. I’ve found that begging the question is a hard fallacy to identify, but it starts with having a solid definition. Begging the question fallacy occurs when a premise presupposes the conclusion it is trying the prove, aka arguing in a circle.
Is it like Cartman's: "if dolphins are so smart, then why do they live in igloos?"
pretty well describes modern cosmology
yo this begs the question
ARE YOU USING THE SAME VID FOR EVERY ARGUMENT? SERIOUSLY?
Lisa is also wrong on one point. Beaks aren’t something exclusive to birds I mean yeah all birds have beaks but not all beaks are on birds. I mean some turtles and a few mammals have them. I mean Lisa could have just said “They are lizards!” But tbh using Bart’s flawless reasoning, he’d think that birds who lay their eggs in the nests of other birds are the same specie.
It has 4 legs, a tail and Fur..therefore it's a dog. Does that make sense to you? It should not make sense to you because it doesn't make sense.
Lisa was pointing out the things that make it lizard.It's not the things that could make it a bird.
Au contraire.
Lisa was demonstrably a lizard in the clip.