Blackmagic 4k vs All My Gear in 2024
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2024
- Is the BMPCC 4k still the best looking image right now? With micro four thirds Leica glass, does it destroy my BMPCC OG? Or full frame and aps-c mirrorless cameras like Canon R8, Sony A7S III and Nikon Z30? I got ripped off pretty bad with this deal lol. Blackmagic pocket 4k in 2024, testing the autofocus with app. How does raw look vs log of other cameras? And slow motion. It can do 2.6k 120fps and HD 120fps. Was this a bad purchase?
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OG has by far the best skin color on my ThinkPad screen (guessing here, I don't know you, but I've been struggling with the skin colors on Panasonic MFT for years and developed a rather critical eye for facial colors in general - that Pana trauma has made me experienced). The slow mo is best done by Canon. I'll consider getting this Leica 25 mm f/1.4, looks like it's much better for Pana than the Oly 25 mm f/1.8 which in itself is not bad. But you don't know before you compare them side by side. Cheers to you from across the ocean!
BRO JUST GET A SONY🤣
Why, @@ac-hq9zb ? Autofocus for sure. But the rest?
Maybe I'm just old and dumb, but I genuinely don't get the "make or break" mentality when it comes to 1080 vs 4k. I don't think I've ever watched a video in 1080 and felt disappointed strictly because it wasn't recorded in 4k.
I’m old and dumb with you.
Depends on camera. Most cameras that do 4K do it excellently, especially with the option to shoot downsampled 4K. Some cameras make the 1080p footage look terrible.
My Fujifilm X-A7 shoots 1080p30 with the quality of some higher end cameras doing 1080p120 of 240 which is to say, over sharpened and slightly blurry/pixelated. Not great, but it does pretty nice 4K. At 720p it can fake VHS with some editing.
4K isn't for you. It's for the production. The crew could shoot 4K for a super nice HD delivery. Or they could shoot with a 3K window, allowing some room to reframe, whether in or out.
Cropping in saves lives
You sound young and smart to me
whats funny is , the OG looks amazing with the leica lens.
Exactly, the best!
I think that one had the best look as well.
Best looking image from all options here.
This guy finally finding out what all p4k users have known all these years. This is the perfect camera. 👌
Ahh the old “i mossed a great deal on ebay, so now i will go all in on some piece of poop, to compensate for it”,
Weve all done that. A tragic tale of the consumer internet economy.
That was some smooth autofocusing on the Blackmagic.
I just wanted to drop by and let you know that you are hands down one of the funniest and most educated personalities on RUclips! Your humor is on point, and I love how you effortlessly blend entertainment with intellect. It's refreshing to find someone who can make me laugh while also dropping some serious knowledge bombs. Keep doing what you do because your unique combination of humor and education is truly a breath of fresh air. Looking forward to more laughs and insights from your content!
Cheers,
I know you regret missing out on that original deal, but seriously Kasey, that Pocket 3 is sitting there in that little condom you bought for it, doing nothing and destroying everything. Once you have that Pocket 3, everything else is like a Casio QV 10.
I just can’t get enough of your slow-mo in that wig. lol
As far as color I would say based on this video.
Nikon Z30 - I'm always shocked at how good it looks.
BM Pocket OG - Right up there with the Nikon.
BM Pocket 4K - Slightly worse.
Canon R8 - Big drop-off, WB looks kind of weird though.
Sony A7SIII - Hurts to see it down here, still makes up for it in nearly every other aspect.
Lol the Nikon makes his face look so red and diseased, canon looks the best and I shoot with Sony. The black magics don’t look great
Have you actually used all these cameras?
I think raw formats not to look better, but to allow you to make mistakes, like WB settings and so on. Make a test, record WB off for a 3000k, and then corrected it in post
Z30 and BM-OG look best to my eyes (1080p Dell precision laptop)
Pocket4k is my go to cinema camera for short films.
The biggest take on this whole video is make sure you ask too many questions and you test the camera before handing over the money! I just had 2 ebay purchases that said NIB, when I got the cameras, they were far from NIB, missing stuff, odds and ends in boxes that don't belong. I feel the anger! I understand. That Nikon Z30 is amazing! I think the BMPCC 1080p camera looks good too. 1080p is perfect if your content is great no one cares! Keep the faith Kasey! Buyer's remorse is a constant in the photographic/video lifestyle!
Congrats on the purchase! I am pumped to see more… take that baby outside on a sunny day, it will destroy everything you own yes - but you kinda have to work for it lol.
I did the same thing a few months ago. Gh5 so much easier to use in comparison, but you know, once you’re on a tripod, nail the exposure, manually focus on something, and learn the colour grading part, those images you can get will be … some percentage better than on the non-cine cam
I love this image. I loved it since the Gerald gave it to you to vlog with. It absolutely gorgeous. The OG looks solid and decent. But yeah the HDMI is a Deal-breaker. I wouldn't accept it if the port is broken. Check it with another cable, maybe is the cable faulty.
I’m a GH5 owner and even I’m having a chuckle at that autofocus.
I dislike the 4K colors, the skin is so red in comparison to others. OG is nicer.
"BMPCC 4K Destroys NOTHING" That's your title for this.
The damn A7Siii might have won todays comparison, but the OG was looking amazing as usual.
LOVING all the content friend. thanks! keep it up you silly silly man.
The Blackmagic does look better visually in that the colours seem more accurate. If you'd like to try something different, what about a Sigma FP? I'd be interested to see what you can do with it and what you make of it.
I kinda second this. Some people swear by that sensor.
Sigma fp is hobo's Arri
11:05 I would just always go with the camera that gives me the cleanest image.
You can always manipulate it in post, but sharpening a soft image is a nightmare
"Clean image" is a complex phenomenon... it's not just about sharpness
Correct.
@@Emerald_City_ I agree.
I’m not talking about sharpening specifically.
At the end, you were always have an easier time, softening a high-res sharp image, then sharpening a low res mushy image.
In my opinion 1080 most of the time enough, but if you want to be flexible you are not going wrong with Sony.
I’m not a fan by any means. The camera just works. I would like to be able to manipulate sharpening tho.
@@Emerald_City_ Toneh...
Congrats on the 4k. Yeah go get a fully functioning one. It’s a manual centered cinema style shooting machine. You might need that port for monitor use. No IR cut built in, you will need a filter to avoid IR contamination muddy blacks. Lot’s of recording options. Braw, ProRes, Gen 5 color science. Dual ISO, S35 sized sensor as opposed to the OG’s 16 mm. Good sound with options. I’ve been looking at the new micro studio for form factor with basically the same innards for other uses. I like mine and you can get some great footage out of it especially for the price. Not the best for vlogging but use, explore, and have fun. Some great work has been done on some of them.
Yes! Totally agreed
I thank you very much for all that you went through. I can't wait to see the 4k raw in the wild 👌🐻 Today I liked the OG. Sold two of them myself. In the future I will buy the bmpcc 4k because I have some 4/3 glass.
Wow the OG looks so much better, no mather which lens you have on it
But to be fair It looks like the bmpc 4K is out of focus
Title suggestions: "Blackmagic 4k with a lot of user error" or "How any camera can be made to look bad by a RUclipsr"
This is on point. The dude is funny as heck, but I've watched a few videos and one thing is consistent.. he has no idea what he is doing and has suspiciously high amounts of cash to prove it.
You should get a chunk of money back for the faulty HDMI port on your BMPCC4K. I had the BMPCC4K. I miss using BRAW. I look forward to more BMPCC4K footage. Regarding focus for the BM camera, I recommend getting some native M4/3 lenses.
That was a native m4/3 lens.
@@cameraconspiraciescheck firmware too…
Congrats! Learn the new camera and ultimately you will love it.. you'll have a lot of fun😍😍😍
PS - ..the IQ from it looks awesome right of the box!!! Love it😍
We’re waiting for you to review the Nikon Zf 😅
hear here QuaySea!
LOL "Transort" made my day 🤣🤣
The Blackmagic 4k background looked way better than the others. More natural. Ditch that Canon.
suggest me a good cheap camera. 1080p 60 fps is enough for me, mainly indoor use, sometimes vlogging. I will appreciate good colors and less or no noise in relatively low light.
He's a film maker now... Sony FX6 next for the ultimate in vlogging dumpsters. I like the OG ;)
Give it 3 months, Casey will quit RUclips, like the current trend, and go full time into Cinema production leaving crap amateur cameras like the A7sIII in the dust!!!
I love my 4k. Bought it new! Dump all that stty Canon glass.
The Blackmagic image does look good imo.
What's the thread size for attaching a filter to the action 4?
Is your t-shirt red as on the bmpcc 4k or rose as on Canon R8?
You have two channels basically devoted to acne. One about camera angles to reduce acne. The other about diet and acne. Because you want to be a Kardashian.
not usual acne, definitely. Same shit happenswith me few years ago, it is virus that travel by synapses from spinal gangles down to nerve exit point, and it very symmetrical, always hit same point on other half of body. There are many of them, most known is Herpes but many other exist and not very well studied. You barely can do anything with it, only do common sense like better food, sport, try to our inner defence system peace it. For me, that shit tend to activate when I go outrage for some reason, like upset of someone absolutely fool action. Peaceful, calm healthy life what all we need.
Hey what camera do you recc for making RUclips videos? Good stable image not shaky 😄 not more than 2k USD?
Got started on the BCPCC4 (US1300.00) in 2020and resolve. Sold it cheap after leaving real estate photography. It was recommended and it was all I knew.
What's the mirror you use?
I was being anti new camera and just bought a mint p4k for $700. Bought a pd movie lidar and went to town. Probably the best camera combo on the market currently. Even got the .64 Metabones 😂. Almost $2k into it now. Surprisingly worth it. 12 bit internal 4k
I would never keep that thing with AF so rotten!
I mean, could you show your grading workflow? Now I am really curious how you are grading it, because the A7SIII doesn't really look the same...
Do you have link on that LCD reverse mirror doohickey/contraption?
The image looks good. But I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze. Too many problems with the AF, HDMI, etc.
I had a BMPCC4k, the P4K2ALEXA powergrade was magic! I ended up selling all my gear and moving to a Sony A7IV + G 20MM 1.8 for easier run and gunning. I film a lot of moving vehicles so autofocus was a must
I had same setup, how you would compare image quality slog3 to braw?
@@RafalGendarz whenever you start moving the camera a little bit, the bmpcc4k wins as the rolling shutter is almost a non-issue, especially in comparison to the a7iv (I have both)
@@rolithesecond yes but i have the fullframe 6 k so its probably worse lol
It seems as though your new botched BMPCC purchase was previously owned by the Uruguayan soccer team that flight crashed in 1972. "Alive" in a Society of Snowstorms" but with a few pieces missing.
I saw this and i need the fx3
I'm so glad I found your channel
I'm biased because I use one but am I crazy that the OG looks better?
Oh my friend, I feel sorry for you! I too have gone through this, and sold my Bmpcc4k immediately… Even the OG is somewhat better, at least it’s a unique gem of a camera…
man sometimes ill look at old m43 images and be like man its so unique and more character..full frame has a look but its hard to seperate from other ff cameras
"filming his moms plants. in his back yard". cackling
Did you ever get your hands on a ZCAM camera, like the E2 M4?
The focusing issues aside, the Nikon z30 nails the reds for sure. Pretty important with skintones. You can see the wackiness of every camera with the reds.. why You might ask? It boils down to a good IR filter in front of the chip.. Sony is too subdued for my taste... but could be easily corrected in post.
that was always my concern i really want to try a blackmagic camera, but with the pyxis or whatever out now , might be my go to now. plus the body shape of it is like one of those balloon cameras people at the park make you. BUT then on the other side i have friends who make amazing short films with it. lol. Black magic also need like just like their own mount or something
I feel your pain man. Canon makes you look like a real boy.
I don't get it. There was a brief period in maybe 2016/17 when the BM made sense if you were deep into the lens system and making a low budget film. For anything else it doesn't make sense - I don't get it.
I hate it when people don't take care of their stuff, never makes sense to me. And yeah i probably would've run away when I saw he didn't even have the caps for the lens, but i understand the pressure of buying it in the moment.
You bought a turkey, return it and wait for a looked after one to come along.
bmpcc 4k squad checking in
FULLY
This had me crying! So great
For in studio work? Nikon z30, and later a full frame Nikon, preferably zf or z6iii when it comes out. Its studio. It doesn’t matter much. The bmpcc4k Braw will step away from them all in harsh uncontrolled light. Davinci tames the Braw easily. Also use polarizer to tame highlights down another stop or 2. But for studio? Just shoot Nikon and keep it easy on yourself. I’ll try to get some free time soon and try out my 0.64x booster on my bmpcc4k. Lensbaby twist 60 should be sick on it.
I love my Pocket 4k. I want the full frame for real estate work but for now, I’ll use the 9mm Panasonic lens.
I’m a reformed audiophile. All of this makes sense to me.
Did that Z30 just look better than your blackmagic?
Wow the Nikon Z30 40mm t2 is the most 3D pop of them all!
What is that eerie blues esque song in the beginning? I love it
This man is basically the Kanye West of RUclips content creators and I mean that as a compliment to how versatile he is between the music making, video editing etc.
That's a weird compliment man.
Exceptionally creative and versatile, but has a solitary job... with an illusion to communicate with the whole world while actually he's sitting alone in his room entangled in JTrudeau's barbed wire.
I think you meant the Owen Benjamin of camera reviewers.
I need a you in my life. Buying everything just because you're there.
Canon R8 wins hands down. Thanks for taking one for the team though!
14:20 hahaha, I can't :D:D
For me it was a toss up between the black magic 4k or the GH6 and I’m kinda glad I went for the GH6.
when people make fun of nikon autofocus than i see panasonic and black magic and i feel better lol
I use the BMPCC4k at work. One issue with the HDMI is, if you shoot in 4k you can only see the picture on a 4k monitor, an HD monitor will not work. I hope that is all that is causing your problem. I actually like the camera a lot. I wouldn't buy one for what you do or for what I would want a camera for outside of work but it's a great, easy to use camera. The one big flaw, is the button on the back that changes the frame rate. Wtf is that doing there?! We've lost footage because that button got press accidentally.
IIRC, another issue is they don’t output raw over hdmi or something like that, you don’t get full range on the scope readings. Atleast with atomos, that was my experience anyways.
It works occasionally. It's a quad HD monitor.
Both Canon and Nikon are better. Yes, return it!
of course it's not worth it. the sony a7 s3 is your best camera. except buying these old cinema cameras is worth it for the pain, which turns into content. The human mind is an amazing thing. If you listen to music and everything is in equal temperament, and you listen for a few minutes everything sounds in tune. Then if you go listen to something in just temperament everything is better in tune! Amazing. So you keep listening. Then you go back to equal temperment. Ouch. Everything is out of tune and horrible. However the brain compensates. After listening to it for about 30 seconds, everything goes from out of tune, to in tune. This is the magic of the human brain compensating for imperfections in the world. This also happens to color science. If you watch a video with bad color science, keep watching at some point something clicks and everything looks great and natural. It's only if you watch it side by side with something better that it's even possible to detect better color science. Humans adapt and correct for bad colors automatically. That's why it's a pointless struggle to get the perfect color science as the human brain autocorrects for poor colors and after watching for about 30 seconds suddenly it's like everything is perfect.
Worst case the hdmi can be repaired for a couple hundo if you can find someone who does board repairs. Either the connector or the hdmi chip needs to be replaced.
At 10:30 the Sony’s bit has a bunch of banding on the walls in the back, while the 12 bit Pocket 4k does not. Speaks volumes of how much more color information is in the 12 bit BRAW.
The Sony is also ghosting the image around your head, BRAW is soooo much better!
I preffer the BMPCC4k image quality every time over the A7Siii
It's totally ludicrous that even the BM 6K doesn't have AF-C. And I still think the A7Siii and R8 look much better, in terms of IQ.
Good luck getting the guy to take it back, too! 😂
These comments are annoying me, Blackmagic cameras are superior to everything you have mentioned, as it is user experience that can maximise BRAW and blackmagic caneras… unless you’re shooting Vlogs and RUclips, blackmagic image is far far more versatile with BRAW. User error can make even Arri footage look like a nokia 6610
@@Sk8WineMedia The BM OG and 4K are not superior to the cameras I mentioned. That's just nonsense. And any camera can be made to look "better" or "worse" depending on how well it's used.
@@QuicknStraightultimately showing your inexperience. You’re saying a hybrid camera can get a better image than a dedicated cinema camera? 😅
@@Sk8WineMedia The BM range is basically a bunch of M43 cameras being used for video. They are not built for video from the ground up the way and Arri, for example, is. And BM clearly cut some feature corners to get their offering into such a small form factor.
So, yes, I am saying that many hybrids actually offer better usability and features than the older BM OG and BM 4k cameras. And I believe the BM 6K also continues to have many of the same limitations.
@@QuicknStraight I am not comparing Blackmagic POCKET cameras to ARRI... I am comparing them to run-of-the-mill Hybrid cameras, like the A7sIII. BRAW is significantly better than S-LOG... For professional film makers. I can't believe you're still digging.
This story hurts… not even lenscaps? Did he stole the damn thing?!
Tell your mum that this kid cheated and she will talk to his mum and than you can give the camera back to him and we all will forget the horrors we had to witness today 😂
Honestly though, love the OG BMP footage and also the canon and the Sony one. The BMP4K, nahhh…
Awesome video, thanks for that, cheers mate 😊🙏🏻
why dont you get the PDMOVIE AF kit it works really well for talking heads, its. must for the BMPCC4K or GH6...I will post some test . yes the app is not the best .lol it needs a monitor....my OG HDMI broke again...i use. a lope viewer
2 surprise i got in this video IMO.
1> Bmpcc Og is still the King for cult classic. Colour and 3D pop is amazing for that little camera.
2>Nikon Z30 beat everthing.
ps. sorry for your bad deal camera. Hope you can return the camera and get a better deal next time.
The image and 3D pop on Bmpcc 4k + Leica lens is nice but the color is more on cooler tone compare to other cameras.
and with all the hustle you have to deal with then it might not be a good camera for one man band filming a bird, right?
Also I want to see how you feel (and rants lol) when taking it outside and shoot a wildlife with it.
I have way too many cameras, lenses, microphones and recorders, and I find myself questioning each purchase, then buying more. I feel like Nero in the Matrix. I see the conspiracy. They release new gear along with specs, charts and graphs explaining why our old gear sucks and why we need to upgrade, then I buy the new stuff and it's hard to tell where the "Improvements" are. I've seen films, so I should know what the heck Film Look means, but I can't exactly define it because the difference is so subtle.
As long as you get a decent focus and lighting, and have a decent mic in your face, what people care about most is the content. You could've shot this whole thing with a 20 year old VHS camera and we'd still love it, just because you're in it and you make it fun to watch.
In 2009, my first RUclips video was me testing out a $99 microphone on a $75 interface with a cheap camera and a cheesy background. Since then I've purchased at least $10,000 in audio gear, even more on cameras, and that $99 microphone still sounds just as good as my $1300 Neumann.
We've reached the point where just about every video can look great with the right lights, a decent mic, and a bit of software tweaking. The differences in "Color Science" are another wild card because a lot of people still tinker with colors in post. Even if you compare the red shirt by holding it up to your monitor and telling us which one matches that exact shade of red, the funny thing is your monitor may not be accurate and the cameras that you didn't think matched the real shirt could actually be the best match on another monitor.
OG is actually gone back to by many professionals and they say we have evolved to fast missing how great it is. Thoughts?
Kasey the BM4K was definitely worth it for the channel, and, the learning experience. :)
But yeah. FF Nikon next. For sure.
And how about this - try "Filmconvert Nitrate" with the Z30 (and others) - that could be true cinema for very reasonable $$.
I have had 2 of this cameras for 4 years plus speed buster and I have no need for something new!
The BMPCC 4k focus was poor. Even when in focus I did not think it was better than the R8 or the Nikon Z30 (which looked fantastic). I reckon some of your best studio stuff has been when shooting with the EOS R as FHD rather than 4K is more flattering for the skin. However, the image from the Nikon really looked great...
If you want to fix the HDMI, you need a full Main PCB replacement. Not cheap. Hand that bad boy back to the seller and get your money back.
By the way.... buy a used Canon EOS M with the newest Magic Lantern it looks AMAZING!!!! (Raw 12bit! Manual focus) .... or slightly less cinematic a Canon EOS 700D with latest Magic lantern (with flip screen and maybe autofocus)
I had the OG Black Magic 2.7K EF and the Pocket with M43 to EF speed booster adapter and filters and screens and then the pocket screen died so I sold it for parts. I had to pay for lessons to learn how to grade and I sucked. So I sold it all.
Bruhhh , got my first !
best ever
Apsc ! 10,3mp
T* Carl Zeiss
24-120
1kg!
What is it?
Try DR Color Management in Resolve. It will make you cry.
Oh man, this has got to sting. Been there. Can you still return it tho? I mean you bought it used so it's probably an "all sales are final" kind of situation.
An electronics repair shop can repair/replace your HDMI port for a very reasonable cost.
Yes the switching on/off is disturbing af. You can attach monitor to see yourself
Broken hdmi. Where to add the monitoe
@@barryobrien1890 yea…
Curious if Kasey gets a refund or if the guy claims it worked fine before he sold the camera.