Are Game Remakes Too Safe?
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With the demo for RESIDENT EVIL 4 REMAKE out now and the remake of SILENT HILL 2 on the horizon, it seems the remake fad has become a full blown cottage industry. But while these sacred cows are guaranteed to turn a profit in ever newer iterations, is it actually good for the medium? Or could it be they're stunting the growth of gaming, which should remain our globalized world's most relevant art form? Join Jorin Lee of Futurasound Productions as we play a little devil's advocate.
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There’s definitively good remakes and the concept of bringing in great titles to a newer audience that never experienced them is pretty cool to me, but I would like to see failed titles that had good concepts re-done to see if they can nail them.
Yeah that won't happen because they'd have to convince higher ups to potentially invest millions in a project that's already been deemed a failure.
Especially hard now that so much money can just be made from low risk investments like a micro transaction systems..
The economics of gaming is really against the consumer that enjoys quality unique titles.
Prince of Persia The Two Thrones. It's good. But what they had in mind looked a lot better. Prince of Persia 3 and Kindred Blades. Imagine if they remake The Two Thrones, keep the elements from the Original but add stuff to it which was originally from Kindred Blades and 3.
RE2 Remake kinda did this. Added stuff from RE 1.5. They made Elza Walker's Outfit as a DLC for Claire, they made the RPD Hall similar to the Original Concept Art, Ada Originally had a Coat. Which came back in the Remake. And yes. Mr. X had his Hat Originally. They added those small things that made it really cool. Ngl RE4 Remake is similar to this. Made the Game spookier, just like RE3.5. Leon's Jacket is a little similar to RE 3.5 and they gave Ashley a Coat. Which she originally was gonna have. Though this one is more open.
Two Thrones though can do a LOT more. Full new scenes.
@@MariusBoss11458 two thrones was awesome and the end credits song is still a banger
@@solid4340 Agreed. But it could have been better.
Resident Evil 2 Remake is really good ; however, the 3rd game remake was rushed and they cut at least 5 hours if content. So, RE3remake is definitely a lazy quick cash grab like TLOUS Pt 1
I think if possible, remakes should come with the original game as an unlock bonus. This way, the game can be experienced the way it did in the olden days and can be compared with modern sensibility. Even better if you can get a commentary track for both versions.
Halo definately did this right with the ability to swap on the fly.
@@ImGoingSpace and it's the only example as far as I know
@@ImGoingSpace More reskin remastered needs to do that!
@@gamanzhiydanil There's also the first two Monkey Island games
I would love to have the original game bundle together with the remake
People in this comment section who advocate for remakes don't realise that because of their very existence companies don't focus on making new games anymore. All because it's safer from a financial standpoint to remake an already beloved game than risk losing money on a new IP. But that's not the mentality I want to encourage. Sadly everyone else does, so remakes aren't going away anytime soon
It's because people are obsessed with artworks while they should be focusing on the artist. Unique games are unique because they are the expression of one artist's vision at a certain time. The sole idea of "remake" is a denial of the artistic quality of a game, since it declares the uniqueness of art inexistant by pretentiously thinking you can copy it industrially for profit. Lightning never strikes twice, get over it people, we want art piece not products.
Ports and remasters (like Metroid Prime) are what I prefer over full remakes.
They preserve the original experience, maybe enhance it a bit or a lot in many ways, but they are not complete remakes.
It’s like choosing to watch the 4K remastered version of the 1989 original animated The Little Mermaid instead of the upcoming 2023 live action remake.
Or choosing to watch the 1998 animated Mulan remastered in 4K HDR with Dolby Atmos instead of watching the 2020 live action remake.
I'm all for remasters now as well. I thought remakes were good for a short bit until I saw what they were becoming. Remasters are just that coat of paint, possibly tweaks, yet they keep the product intact. No tampering with, adding in modern touches, no removing content.
I just try both, if it's good then why not try it out and form my own opinion on it
You've just never seen a good remake. Pokemon FRLG, HGSS, ORAS are all good remakes with no cut content, AKA preserving the original while also updating them to the gameplay system of the time they were in. Zelda MM 3D and OOT 3D only add and fix the original games with nothing lost, final fantasy dawn of souls 1 and 2 ff3 remake and ff4 complete are all great remakes that do the same. Castlevania dracula X is also a good remake of Rondo of blood, with multiplayer and other Castlevania games to unlock.
@@rpgfanatic9719 Remakes can be good.
But most of the time, for the purist in me, I prefer remasters
@@HydraSpectre1138 Only remasters I even play are KH all in one and Spyro reignited
Resident Evil Remake (GC) is still the best remake and is the perfect example of how to do a remake right, while Resident Evil 3 Remake is the perfect example of how not to do a remake.Remake. Another remake done right was Shadow of the Colossus (PS4)
I think the case of Silent Hill 2 is a perfect example of the critical issues in the creative sphere that the very idea of remakes poses: only a company that has always shown very little interest in the authorial relevance of its games may think that this is a valid way to show respect to any cultural product, pursuing an idea of importance that it has never been able to truly understand. Capitalizing on nostalgia and stupidity at the expense of what video games as a medium could really be seems to be the only goal of this industry, and it's really sad.
This trend of Remakes/Remasters is probably the worst thing to happen to Video Games in a while. Game studios are creatively bankrupt now so just putting a new coat of paint on old games is the way to go. Not every game needs to have a newer version of itself, it's like gaming now is for people who are blinded by nostalgia and those who have been gamers less than 5 years. Sucks that from now on everytime I say how much I love Resident Evil 4, I have to specify whether I'm talking about the original or the Remake.
Our responsibility as gamers is to do our do diligence and making sure we understand the product we are paying for and is worth our money/time. That's why this channel is important. Honestly would like more content like this, I don't want gaming to rush head first into the problems plaguing TV/Movie/Streaming.
Unfortunately, most gaming channels will barely touch on or overlook these major issues. Very few channels will present the problem facing gaming because they don't want to lose access, which is no different than how the game journalist field went downhill.
@@blumiu2426 💯. We need authentic genuine gaming journalism. I'm very naive and am hoping that things will improve long term but it may get way worse before it gets any better in the short term.
@@WW-bc1bq RUclipsrs have become that, which has been a good thing, yet I miss the magazine articles and all else that was solely about gaming and gaming culture. Sadly, economic pressures and perks will flip formerly trusted RUclipsrs into shills themselves. We already see censoring on the platform require walking a line to not be swallowed by the algorithm, but then add just how much access means to these people and walking a line with their audiences even. There are far more pressures than before and I don't see people my age or young being hardline on principle by even half.
@@blumiu2426 And how journalism as a whole, even war journalists went downhill and got corrupt.
There are also indie games that clearly wear their inspiration on their sleeve or use it as a key factor in marketing. Sea of Stars is selling itself as a spiritual successor to old school SNES rpgs like Chrono Trigger and Super Mario RPG in terms of style and mechanics
The game and film industry have run out of ideas so just keep giving us remakes because they cannot be bothered to offer us anything new.
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes is like MGS1 but given the Disney live action remake treatment.
It has many of the flaws that permeate Disney’s remakes.
A much more lifeless and drab aesthetic but with higher fidelity to be more “realistic”? Check.
More lifeless and monotonous acting? Check.
Aiming for realism while ironically adding in sillier things that were not in the original? Check.
A duller soundtrack than the original? Check.
Updates and “fixes” that damage the product more than improve it? Check.
Basically being done as a tech demo for more advanced graphics? Check.
Changes up the wrong things while keeping things that needed change intact? Check.
Seriously, The Twin Snakes has the same flaws as Disney’s live action remakes.
Love your channel brother. I don't even game anymore, but I love watching videos delving into great games and what makes them so good and you do that better than anyone else on this platform.
In RE4's(or RE2/3/7/8) case it looks more of a reboot than a remake or a continuation of the story/lore. Dead Space's Remke has been good, as I am currently playing but I have noticed somethings that many loved in the OG like the change of physical appearance of Isaac and Nicole and tiny things like tool sounds, aiming, kinesis and stasis.
Because it is. The team behind RE remakes said they are replacing the old games as canon. Don't ask me why they are going that far, but they are and still not telling good stories. That has never been Capcom's strength, but gameplay and style of presentation were. Remakes now are revisionism because they want global appeal and that requires appealing to the ESG standards.
@@blumiu2426 and in all honesty that is a major f up treatingthe beloved series like this. There was or is a video were the RE team with that Italian guy in charge of RE7 stated that they were reimagines of the ogs. I think it is in and found it some years ago in a Japanese Capcom channel here in RUclips. Yeah the stories might have not been the greatest, but it moved with the environment and gameplay. That is what made it to be RE. The new ones just work because you know the old games or the basic points of the story. They are just flashy flashy media like everything else and then its forgotten. Oh and now games are need to be lifelike graphically superior with actually physics and make sense because that totally kills the immersion and fun factor. When old school fans come forward with reasons of why they don't like the new games they are always belittled, trolled, and told to stop living in nostalgia and like the new changes.
And I also feel that the REmakes and RE5 to RE8 have given the middle finger to old RE fans. One example, in REmake2 Ada explains to Leon that Umbrella has a virus that turns people into monsters. That delivery is just so monotone, vougue and simplistic that it hurts. Meanwhile in the OG RE2 Annette explains the cause of the Outbreak in the most memorable flashback ever in RE history. In RE8 we were hinted to the origin of Umbrella all just for it to be a logo that "inspired" its foundation. Again they succeeded in disappointing and giving a middle finger to OG RE fans.
@@leogendary133 Most of the industry is trying to gain the younger audience as the older age out or will reject the faults and changes being made. They remember things that are best forgotten or came from a time new devs don't care about or have little say in. The problem with Capcom is that story was always low priority in all their IP as making a fun game was their goal, which they succeeded, that it may be baked in now and why it seems like flailing around when they attempt it now. Capcom also is known for quitting IP if it doesn't catch on or when they did attempt a change (like with BoF), and wasn't accepted, they quit it.
Most of the industry with legacy titles always say they are making games for both the older fans and new, but we know you can't do both. It never works, and we always see later they keep making changes that cater only to the new fans. They don't want to lose that possible revenue right away because most new fans don't always buy games on their own or have the income for it. They are playing multiplayer games, so they count on converting the old with the new.
I enjoyed RE2 Remake, but there was a lot about it that were issues for me and won't stick in my mind like the first three. The franchise just seems like it's gone on too long and now trying to be something different far as the current timeline goes. The films avoid the game plots and focus on the drama of what goes on behind the scenes, creating even more a contrast of the scifi-fantasy we see now and trying to keep it psuedo-science yet grounded story elsewhere. Like Final Fantasy, it seems to be trying to survive. Japan loves it though and makes sense because it is kinda crazy with plot and not even sure it's viewed as horror anymore. Or I'm just used to it or the push for realistic graphics kills any real horror.
Yeah, you are right about this gaming industry, it is like a toxic relationship where we the fans expect that they change and care about us but they don't. So we suffer and repeat the cycle again and again. And you are right about Vcc Capcom's IPs like Dino Crisis, the 3rd entry was such a letdown and deviate from the og storyline by miles and was let to die.
We also have hit a time were everyone wants a hyper realistic game. Which really doesn't work, it honestly takes away the fun factor and escapism of real life.
@@blumiu2426 I didn't know they set out with the intention of completely replacing the original games. I had a feeling it would happen as a result but I didn't know that was their intention all along. Now I hate these remakes even more, they shouldn't have been made, I don't care for this modernizing or catering to modern audience crap, it ruins games by making them safe, generic and predictable. Capcom should have put re2 and 3 classic on modern storefronts to preserve the original game instead of leaving us with a bastardization. Now people are talking about re1 remake remake or a devil may cry remake again, jeez they need fo stop. The latest victim is everyone's favorite critical darling. The bastardized new version of re4. These games deserve better like remakes of old that were faithful or have the original game as an unlockable but asking aaa companies to allow time for their Dev teams to implement such rewards is too much to ask apparently as well as making a fun game.
Kept us waiting, huh?
As a Sonic fan, I used to always want a new remake of Sonic Adventure, with polish controls, better animations, etc.
But as time went on, I realised that it wasn't worth it. Fans were already making fan games and spiritual successors that either create that same experience, or fuse it with different ideas such as the Kirby/Megaman/Sonic fusion: Spark the Electric Jester.
I don’t understand why it is so hard for developers to keep the game they way it was and not remove themes and parts of the game
What a great video, gives a lot to think on upcoming games and their limelight being upstaged by remakes. I would love to see you bring more attention to new IPs now that you've mentioned it in this excellent video, what are some other newer games we should be keeping an eye on?
Loved the video, thank you for your insight.
i think the best is to just port old games to new consoles so people who never played classic games could play them
The issue we run into there is with some games, they censor them if they bring them back.
If they wanted to play them they already would of they just don't like playing old games.
@@chronicxdzed2693 Thus why they are stuck with modern gaming, with 1% of AAA being in working condition and good, the rest broken or bad and they won't touch indies because graphics. I'd never want to be the newer generation with such shallow limitations.
@@blumiu2426 I hate censorship so much...
@@kittymyths1208 Same, but too many don't take it as serious as it is.
"A corpse should be left well alone..."
They hated him because he spoke truth.
I think one game that is the antithesis of all this is Kena Bridge of Spirits in 2021. It was a beautiful game that was a new IP with gorgeous graphics and art direction, marrying technology with artistic vision
The Konami silence feels like they started to realized how f'ed up they are "once again" with such big announcements of several SH games at once.
But for more than a decade, I've always hoped for Konami to start working on the MSX's Metal Gear games remake.
I don't think we want any remakes from Konami. I had a little hope for them when they released GetsuFumaDen, but then they abandoned some future updates. Just moved on, silence. Good game, but that raised a serious issue with how they go about things. They are detached from IP usage as long as it seems to make them money, their creators seem to be the only ones that care for those projects personally. Metal Gear will just end up being propagandized (most surely these days) and possibly worse than The Twin Snakes. That was the first remake people tend to forget about. The further you get away from when something was made and you don't have someone in-tune with the IP, you lose something more and more. Silent Hill already showed that with their presentation.
doesnt make sense, metal gear solid is the definitive edition and culmination of mg1 and 2, its even a remake in some way, that's why its the true first chapter of the series, and the other reason is that no one would care except hardcore fans like us so they would fear low sales, normies know just metal gear solid, mg1 and 2 are not popular games.
Idk, these Resident Evil remakes are absolutely amazing not only are they able to make a ton of money off of them but it modernizes very old games that most people playing games today didn't play back then, a lot of care and work went into making the RE remakes especially but Final Fantasy 7 and Dead Space remake also do a phenomenal job at doing a remake right.
Both Re2 and Re3 remakes were inferior to the originals that came out decades ago....
New ones look pretty but they are shallow.
@@saladinnausicaa2759 I disagree, I think they are better than the original in every way pretty much the only thing that the originals had over the new ones is the B runs and some cut content in 3 remake.
@@saladinnausicaa2759 RE3 was inferior for sure, but RE2R at the very least was equal to its counter part, and managed to surpass it in numerous ways.
@@saladinnausicaa2759 How would you say that the Remakes are shallow, care to explain more in detail?
except for all the cut content, really re2r barely passes and 3 flops it, 4 will lose the things that made it noteworthy and they shouldn't touch 5 or 6 with a 10 foot pole for remaking
Once I get my Dino Crisis remake we can put a lid on all of them... maybe...
It's lazy and shows grown adults suffer from arrested development and can't let go of the past
It’s not that deep
Better than service games. People rather have an Arkham City remake than Suicide Squad.
The issue is that the safe route is the most travelled route. REmake is the best example of a remake, but that formula was abandoned for muh action shooter, because action shooters make more money.
Period.
When was this recorded? SH2 is not rumored, and hasn't been for about half a year...
What’s the song at the start called????? Will I have to wait till you remake this video in 2033?????
I don't think you give enough compelling arguments to justify why. All you are doing is saying sacred cows being used to reap benefits, while stealing the lime light of other projects and almost calling a lot of the developers work lazy.
There are quite a lot of decisions on IP properties that we don't appreciate. I would argue that the problem lies in legacy of studios rather than new projects. For example, its more accepted to see a new studio from renown developers to try something new, while a known developer trying something different. Rockstead and Naughty Dog come to mind. The model of game projects could likely shift to that of movies, where you work on a per project to justify the costs and overhead. But its all up in the air. For now, remakes serve to do many things. Is there an audience? Will a new studio manage expectations and handle the IP to justify a reboot or a sequel? time to develop a remaster or remake can also cover the gaps of longer development from studios. Metroid Prime Remaster is a good example.
Signalis is interesting, i think its noble to want new ideas that land a homage to things we appreciate, but I would not consider a loved IP to be replaced by it. All in all, interesting listen, but it comes across more as a rant than an actual study.
Always good to fall back on the wisdom of hideous kojimbus
the video sums up perfectly with the thumbnail
Name of the into song?
It's one thing to remake an old PS1 game, those 3D games are too archaic; anything PS2 and above is just not necessary.
Some ps2 games need a 4k 60fps remake. I would say ps3 and above is not necessary.
While I personally feel that companies should focus more on new IPs over remakes I think some games should be remade with new ideas and concepts that could elevate the game beyond its original like I strongly believe rn that I never find the love for RE4 but it’s remake? Off the demo alone I’m kinda convinced I’ll finally love it lol
Pretty much entirely agree with everything here. On video game conservatism, it's kind of crazy when you think on it. Like if you take the 15 years or so between roughly '90-'05, you pretty much have the entirety of "technological innovation" in gaming. In the 15 or so years since then, all the innovation from major publishers has been in finance. Microtransactions, lootboxes, even this conservatism, etc. It seems like with media, company's will escalate their products to a degree where they can no longer really afford to fail, and then just 'refine'(using their words lol) what they've found works.
On remakes, first, just to differentiate as to make clear what I'm talking about. Remasters are games that play almost exactly the same as the original but with improved graphics and maybe minor changes. In a hypothetical scenario when the games were modded to look nearly the same, would an average person who hadn't played either be able to quickly tell the difference? No? It's a remaster. Yes? It's a remake. Some examples. Dead Space, Demon Souls, Resident Evil 4 are remasters. Final Fantasy VII, Resident Evil 2 and 3, Metal Gear Solid(perhaps arguably?) are remakes.
Using those classifications, I don't have much problem with remakes in particular. They really don't come out that frequently, and tend to be pretty well done. Remasters are where I have the problem. Not only are they coming out in an absurd frequency, they tend to be pretty half-assed. And that's kind of the point of them. They *are* a half-assed cashgrab. It's a lot easier and cheaper to update a game where are the design, planning, story, programming are already (mostly) done, and just update the assets. And we often see company's even cheap out on that. With GTA's recent remasters blindly using AI to update assets, and some games assets actually looking *worse* in their remasters. Long story short, they're cheap games made by relative skeleton crews where the years of nostalgic pining over them suddenly becomes advertising.
I guess to tie this long rant together, because of that conservatism in gaming, it's become impossible to make a remake of a game released in the past 15 or so years. Which is kind of interesting to think about.
I completely agree with everything you’ve said. However, I think the problem stems from the market being FLOODED with remakes, similar to how the film industry has become obsessed with churning out shit, CGI franchise films. RE4 2005 is one of my favourite games of all time; I’m ten hours into RE4 2023 and I’m having the best gaming experience I’ve had in years! I’m sure it too will be my favourite game of all time and I think the difference here is that this it is the original developer not just rebuilding the exact same game, as is the case with TLoU Part I. Silent Hill 2 is also one of the best games I’ve played but I can’t help but feel very skeptical about Bloober Team remaking it.
Why does it say "(Rumored)" for the titles shown in this video?
I've come to this exact conclusion, myself. However, I still get excited about seeing beloved old games "upgraded" on modern hardware.
Just consume product and get excited for next product.
i will add that i am incredibly excited for remakes of Resident Evil and even Silent hill. As i don't see myself mustering getting through the originals. (maybe one day for morbid curiosity) But i've grown up with more modern technologies and game design philosophies and so feel completely alien in otherwise good games from this bygone era. (For example it took me several years to finally beat metal gear solid 3, as i kept loosing steam halfway though mainly due to it's arguably dated control scheme. No crouch walk, and sensitive face buttons)
So atleast for me as a person from a younger generation certain remakes do get me excited. If they remake something it's hopefully cause it can be improved, and in some of the Resident evil games i would argue they have.
For the last of us, maybe not as much cause the original version was already incredibly modern
You're missing out bro. And I can guarantee you the remake of SH2 won't be even half as good. I say this as someone who is also very young and decided to dig deep into older titles.
Although I felt like the 80€ I spent on Dead Space was honestly kind of a waste (not because of the game's quality, but how similar it is to the original experience), remakes like Resident Evil 2 and, from what I can tell, 4, prove that you can not only modernize and older game but you can also make it BETTER while also providing a fresh new experience. Playing the Chainsaw demo made me feel like I was playing Resident Evil 4 for the first time again and I cannot put into words how incredible of a feeling that is.
absolutely agree, the chainsaw demo is fantastic and captures so much of the original tension of playing RE4 for the first time, yet also makes things feel new in terms of gameplay and atmosphere.
i believe they are striking the perfect balance right now between staying true to the original’s special qualities while making it an exciting, very engaging new experience that evolves on the original’s ideas and i have high hopes it will be like that in the full game.
in my opinion, i’m really not a fan of remaking a game like silent hill 2 for example, but i don’t think remakes should have a wholly negative perception as a concept anymore, it should be analyzed on a case-by-case basis to me. seeing the brilliant execution of this new re4 remake so far is what has changed my mind on the subject, as I was staunchly against it at the start, but so far it seems better than i could have ever imagined.
I just don't get why they're trying to make the story "good", it's supposed to be dumb lmao
@@Peasham Because they already perfected the camp in the original, so if they didn't try something new it would just be "as good" as the original.
@@erc3338 Except a serious story can't surpass the original. It's supposed to be a remake, not a reimagining.
@@Peasham a remake is literally a reimagining though. knife parry, stealth, dismemberment, new enemy designs, graphics hardware and art direction, etc., it is impossible to make a justified remake without reimagining aspects of what came before. and on top of that, not all aspects of a remake are about “surpassing” what came before, sometimes it’s about giving an alternative experience to the consumer rather than retreading old ground.
leon spits out a new peter-parker ass line every 20 seconds in the remake lol, a story being campy is all about playing it straight and serious with its presentation, yet still making it clear to the audience that the product itself is goofy and doesn’t need to be taken super seriously.
RE4 was a game with horrific monstrosities and unspeakably monstrous and inhumane acts and imagery, but the goofiness came through the line delivery and silliness of character interactions and over the top action set pieces. with the more insane cart ride section, Luis still being a goofball and a buddy cop dynamic, Saddler being comically exuberant and over the top evil, Leon being a collection of action hero tropes with his one liners and tough demeanor, etc., it’s clearly all still in the spirit of the original.
they are just trying to add more intrigue and details to the story to make the stakes for the characters more meaningful. plus, the story is going to be largely the same. fucked up cult of villagers, luis lives and then dies, leon saves ashley and cures the plagas infection, he fights krauser and salazar and saddler and defeats all of them, it’s really all the same story beats to be honest, just with a new coat of paint. and if the story just is too much and displeases people, the original still exists and is highly praised for a reason, we can return to it whenever we like.
Tbh I think when a remake is well done it can be more work and even more stressful than regular productions. Bcs you’re trying so hard to not disappoint and live up to fans expectations.
Keep on the good content friend!
I was originally hype for re4 remake but that was cuz I thoucht re2 and 3 remakes were good cuz I hadn't played the originals. I have played re4 and a remake is fine but would be much better if they just made an innovative re9 but I guess we'll get that too prolly
"Capitalism breeds innovation"
The Innovation:
your intro makes me miss PS2 so much
Video starts at 1:05
I just want new games
Interesting to see a video like this from you, hope more is on the way
I love this, I've been enjoying the remakes but also feeling critical of them seeing as this plays into Mark fishers capital realism. I'd love to see a video on your opinion on Capital realism in the realm of video games
Thank you Jorin
Yayyyy quickly dropped everything and went to this video
hi im just starting this video but i hate remakes making changes to dialogue to update it or whatever im so salty abt leon's changed dialog in RE4 remake but I also, hot take, didn't like the Dead Spacw story changes
im not sure why they feel the need to change the story personally - but then again im very open about preferring 1:1 remakes or remasters or whatever the term would be 😭 but essentially the crash and spyro games hel yeah that hit just right
I can't believe we even have this discussion. I have an idea don't play or buy it
Some are good, some suck
Remaking good games is just arrogant. Why not remake a failed game that had interesting ideas? Like alone in the dark 2008, for example
The 8-bit Sonic games had a ton of potential, that they could just not reach due to limited hardware. 16-bit or 32-bit styled remakes with gameplay from the Genesis games and Mania would be much better.
Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble 16-bit is a really great remake that basically makes it a lost Genesis game. And it’s a fan remake.
I would also love a Daikatana remake that does better justice to its ideas, which were very interesting.
Because no one is gonna put in any money to remake the E.T. game. Its that simple. No one is putting money up to polish a turd.
Marketability
@@habadasheryjones remaking the most beloved game in your billion dollar franchise is a no brainer. hope revelations or or 0 get remade eventually tho
Because technology makes even good games feel dated. Not just in the looks but in the gameplay.
Good remakes are good and bad remakes are bad boom 200 IQ take
Based
Well the demands for remaster / remake are always high and gamers doesn't always support new IP, which is the reason why many game companies still doing remaster / remakes. And as long as these remakes are well done then i don't see any problem with that. Beside, it's not like game companies stop making new IP's. Every year we've seen new IP's from low to big budget such as Sifu, Stray, Kena, Ghost of Tsushima, Atomic Heart, Horizon, Returnal, Hi-fi Rush, Ghostwire Tokyo, Forspoken etc etc.
That may be true. But let's be real. We can always use less remakes.
And seriously? People don't support new ips? What kind of people have you talked with?
@@kittymyths1208 You should read my post carefully. I wrote _'gamers doesn't always support new IP's'_ and plenty of new IP's, the great ones not bad ones, ended as a commercial flop such as Tearaway, 3D Dot Game Heroes, Soul Sacrifice, Folklore, God Hand, Haunting Ground, Resonance of Fate, etc.
And i wish devs doing MORE remakes especially for PS1 / PS2 games that doesn't age well. Plenty of classic franchise deserves a second chance.
You're getting way to philosophical over something that's very simple.
Capcom will make far more money selling RE4 Remake for $60 than trying to sell the original RE4 to anyone who hasn't already played it for $20. This era of remakes is an attempt for modern corporations to erase a past they had nothing to do with and can't profit from like the original creators did. While still using the good will, hardwork, and innovation of those properties to sell their new products. It's full proof as far as these corporations are concerned. The games already have a huge fanbase and public recognition and the hardwork of game design is already done for them. They just have to color inside the lines with minimal effort.
I dont mind a remake as long as the original is on pc and we still have access to purchasing it. Ports to other platforms are okay but things usually last forever on pc and are conserved the longest.
Why watch a movie that youve already watched? Because the cast was different?
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Yeah, but Shotgun go BOOM in RE4 Remake!!!!
What I don't like about remakes is that the technical standpoint always gets lost kinda. I mean take all the Resident Evil remakes that came out like in two years or so? They look all the same and don't improve anything. Back in the day you had new technical features in every game and I appreciate this a lot more. Or take the Metal Gear Solids... imagine all three remakes (or maybe 4) come out in a box where you have all of them at the same time. Sounds good but I guess every game will look exactly like the other... That's why I'm still curious if I really want those remakes. If they come I'll definetly play them, but if not I wouldn't miss anything. Have a nice weekend buddy. 😊
I don't mind remakes and remasters. It gives the possibility to replay a game after many years or try out an old classic on the platform you play on. Secondly only big game publishers engage in remakes and so on, and since they are not able to make great new games, they might as well make remakes back when they actually had talent. Silent Hill 2? Would we expect Konami to be have a rebirth into the AAA scene, if they were not going to remake silent hill 2? I doubt it, without silent hill 2 remake, the other projects would not have had a greenlight. I therefore don't really buy the allocation assumption of labor. As it stand now, most AAA companies are welcomme to make remakes, then let indie developers create the true art.
I personally don’t think they are safe. Most remakes are from games that defined an era, so the remake has to live up to the expectation of the original’s while trying to modernize to today’s standards, the trouble is if they deviate to far from the original, it might lose what made it iconic, but if you don’t deviate at all then what was the point of the remake. Remakes have to carefully walk through a balance of refreshing the original while at the same time not make it obsolete. That’s why studios will mostly play it “safe” an release a remaster instead
I don't need remakes but apparently a lot of commenters on the internet feel otherwise. Well, I still wish Chrono: Resurrection wasn't halted so perhaps there is a remake I'd like.
I think it's cool to see the new graphics but I've put $0 towards remakes so far. I feel like I already had the experience. Might pick up Silent Hill because I drank quite a bit playing those games, so the town's not the only thing that's foggy.
yeah right you probably beat the RE1 gamecube remake
@@Brandon_Y. Close. My friend had it. I hated the controls, so I WATCHED.ha
@@kylefarrell25 you can use the dpad or the analog stick though
@@Brandon_Y. It was a long time ago. I'm all good.
Its not just about graphics. You did not have the experience at all if you did not play them (well it depends on the game for sure).
If you played FF 7, you did not play 7 Remake.
The remakes from bluepoint, like Demon Souls and Shadow of the Colossus are almost the same game but with better graphics. However FF 7 Remake and Re 2-3-4 Remake are brand new experiences, they are a reimagination of the original versions.
The Last of Us Part 1 and RE 1 Remake are expanded-improved versions of the originals.
You make some good points but there have definitely been more than a few remakes that I really loved playing. Dead Space and FFVII come to mind immediately.
What if the money invested into the remakes had created a new IP in some alternative reality. You can never know what you have actually lost
@@Janosevic80 Ok but what if cows shit diamonds
But both of those games are bad (the last couple hours of Remake where it goes insane notwithstanding).
@@thomascheckie2394 That makes no sense. Something practical that is within possibility like using money to make a new game, compared to something impractical...
FFVII Remake has pretty much been debunked to be a reimagining/sequel. They think they can tell the story better the second time and nowhere near the same success landed with the first part. It's only downhill plot-wise from here considering the trope they are messing with and has never been successful for Square/Square-Enix except with Chrono Trigger, really. Dead Space was also technically great, but mired in modern revisionisms and propaganda. Switching a anti-corporate smear on the wall to anti-capitalist is peak Progressive devs not being able to separate themselves from what is supposed to be a retelling. All these remakes come and go, without a cultural impact as the originals did because now it is a machine just cranking them out like the rest of the entertainment industry.
Graphically some need to be remade..
Woah, a non metal gear video? Blasphemy.
Honsestly glad you guys are bringing your talents to analyzing other things
Honestly I can't disagree with your analysis at all, but none of it changes the fact I'm extremely excited for the RE4 remake 🤷🏻♀️ especially after playing the demo. I am worried that the success of these recent remakes is going to give birth to a lot of rushed, unoriginal projects being sold solely on the basis of nostalgia + technology.
Life is hard, remakes are easy.
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SH 2 is being remade , so Konami wants me to buy for the third time
Most remasters are free upgrades if you already own the game(except for greedy naughty dog). And remakes like FF7 and RE are amazing.
I hope naughty dog doesn't become a bad company and ea is making some improvements can't wait for mass effect 4 i hope they give the same love they did with mass effect 2.
@@heribertovizcaino4682 Naughty Dog already became a bad company...
Its like how not everything needs a sequel. Sometimes its best just to let beloved series die out gracefully.
So you think it's fine to just let F-Zero die?
@@V.VIIIBeanman dont know what that is but yes
Profit drives business, so of there's a loophole on making money, it's going to be utilized. And remastering old work is easier than new story, new level design etc.
Not that I'm saying these remakes are easy to develop!
I just look at the resident evil 1 remake. And this is a remake better Grafik
Not manny thinks have changed make the experience better without going so faar away. If i look resident evil 2 3 remake i think to my self why not Just make a new gameserie? I mean Just Play the original resident evil 2 and Play the so-called remake right after you finished the original
Could you say this is the thame game or even the same Story?
Oh and you can do this in reverse
Nah just don’t agree. I like remakes, I enjoy them as reboots. The resident evil remakes right now are being made to put the series into a more consistent tone and identity through to the newer games (7 and village).
So they're bad remakes, is what you're saying.
I grew up in the same era of gaming and I've only dabbled in remakes. My first dive was Metal Gear the Twin Snakes and the Resident Evil both for the Game Cube. Twin Snakes was luke warm, it was an almost 1 to 1 remake but the action goes beyond stoopid, like Advent Children bad but RE was excellent. That has to do with the intent behind them. RE director wanted to do a remake to perfect his vision of his game. Twin Snakes is more of a bad retelling of an already perfect story. I still love RE remake and I love the RE2 remake but I didn't bother with 3 and I don't think I'll pick 4 either. I've already played these games and RE2 remake delivers in what I wanted to see in it and I know 3make kinda sucks. Now that doesn't hold a bearing on 4make but I already played this game in peak perfection and continue to do so. Besides this is where they went off the rails with the story by sending 1 man to Europe to look for the presidents daughter. Seems to be the same story and all I can say is that it's still silly as hell. Just my thoughts on all this craziness. 😁
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I just hope the Silent Hill 2 remake doesn't do the modern gaming thing, where it drops the difficulty if you die too many times.
Cuz "Lord forbid anyone misses out on any of the content"!
I hate when I'm struggling then suddenly win a boss or solve a puzzle in 5 minutes after an hour or 2 of losing.
It revokes all sense of accomplishment!
Just leave the difficulty where I set it at the start of the game, and let me quit or succeed on my own!
Even one of the Dark Souls games does this. Can't remember which, but I remember losing 100 ish times to a boss, and right when I was too frustrated I was about to quit and my hands were too cramped to play optimally, I somehow beat the boss in half the attacks?! Fuck off!
Meanwhile SH2-R is a horror game, please don't cheapen the experience!
Of all the things that can go wrong with SH2 remake, this is one of the least troublesome lol
remakes are fine it just depends on the game, the time, how its gonna approach it.
That would be true, but remakes are no longer remakes.
I just want new games, new ideas. Dead space, shadow of the colossus and TLOU remake is the worst kind of remake it’s so close to the original. When Japanese devs remake their games it seems more like reimaginings, I prefer the latter. I want a remake to make substantial changes to the original make them two different experiences instead of replacements of what came before with prettier graphics. So sick of it.
MGS may be dead, but MGS 2 especially talked about topics that seem to be more and more relevant as time goes by. Old doesn't automatically mean irrelevant.
And to be fair, most SH games past the 3rd went very downhill. I can understand the desire to play a remake of an old, known good game, rather than a new one with a now bad track record. That is of course also assuming the won't jack up the SH2 remake. So much of the AAA game industry has cowered in fear of safety for profit over risk of loss, that good remakes almost inherently appeal to me more than new AAA games. I don't like that, because if the same thing happened back in the PS1 days, we might have gotten FF 4 remake, FF 5 remake, and FF 6 remake rather than FF 9 after FF 8. But while I used to look forward to new FF games, ever since hating FF 12, hearing I should never bother with FF 13, and hating FF 15 combat so much I barely got through 3 battles alive, I don't care about new FF games anymore.
I recently played the FF 1 pixel remaster, and wasn't much more interested in it than the broken NES version, but looking at Steam reviews, it's the most popular one. I find that just as irritating, because it has to be a bunch of people my age and older so interested in it just because they played it when the NES was new and it reminds them of their younger days, when if you ask me it was a terrible game due to a horrible translation, broken stat system, and permanent spell choices where a good 20% of them didn't work right at all. Even though the pixel remaster fixes a lot of those problems, it's a mid tier game at best. It's no surprise companies don't really know what to do in regards to what will be popular.
if the game fun i have no problem with remake
Resident evil 4 Remake has Leon F Kennedy on a mission to Save Hillary Clintons Clothes from the Clutches of Remake Saddler and his Redo's
Im tired of remakes.were not getting enough good new ideas.i love the re remakes but what happens when we get back to 9?remakrs from the 90s are kool because it was long enough to make them modern but with the vibe it had.i didnt need re4 remake.2 and 3 yes,because they needed it.i didnt need the last of us remake
For me, the main difference between movies doing it and games doing it is because of how games evolve. Yes, a very effects-heavy movie even just 20 years ago can now be done on tv shows or even fan-made projects as good or better. But your interaction with a game and how it changes as people have found new ways of improving and expanding what games can do with gameplay. Some games I think can get remakes too soon and don't actually do much besides look better. But in the case of something like RE4, FF7, the rumors of MGS3 you're bringing the games to people who would otherwise normally never get to experience them just like how there are people who would never get to experience the last of us if it wasn't the show. I think the majority of gamers don't go back with some exceptions of certain games. Most gamers might not have finished but have probably tried some of the old mario games for example, but expecting people to go back to play RE2 with the tank control, the strict save system its just not fun for the vast majority. And while RE4 is still very playable compared to RE2, it's been re-released on every platform ever since it came out, I think the people who wanted to play it have at this point and only the new will bring them in.
Then take something like MGS3, for me it has the best story in the entire franchise, but when I tried to go back I kept wishing the HD collection had added the peacewalker aiming from the 3ds version, and made it possible to change camo the way you change weapons or items. Because it got tiresome having to go back and forth into the menu. So I would be fine it they had just taken the game and have it play like MGS4 and not much else, but I'm not gonna complain if the remake uses the fox engine and plays like MGS5.
Agree with you man, why fix something that aint broken, this remake is attempt of something big company tend to do, they kinda afraid to charted into new territory...
Love Love Remakes. I hope they don't stop and they keep them. So many games that have been remade I have never played and it was either because 1) it was exclusive to a platform 2) performance issues back then or irritating visuals, 3) Simply never got the chance to.
This mentality is the reason they keep pumping remakes instead of new ips...
@@kittymyths1208 God!! A lot of these recent new IPS have been utter trash and are a financial issue on the company like forspoken. Also like I said most of these remakes are of gamea I never played and for good reason
It ain't a fcking problem, simply treat remakes as any other new game(may as well be with the amount of work that goes into them).
They remake a game? It's good? buy it. They remake a game? It's bad? DON'T buy it and if they keep producing BAD remakes, eventually they'll stop because the practise becomes no longer worth it, if it's not bringing profit
I think the developers and publishers are in a sense, writing themselves into a corner. There aren't that many games each individual company has left to remake, RE for example, we're at REm4ke now, whats next? code veronica, and then what?
they will have to innovate eventually.
Exactly. I'm waiting for Capcom to hit that wall and then not know what to do. The recent games are bizarre and far removed from what is familiar about Resident Evil, more like a weird realistic tokusatsu with super-humans and creatures, if not leading up to that. I think they were talking about a new RE game called 'something' Island, but I have no idea how anyone finds RE horror games but in genre only. Maybe I've just been around too long that nothing they do is new to me, partly because they aren't being that creative.
@@blumiu2426 the one you’re talking about is a movie, called RE death island.
I was fine with RE7, but village didnt hit rhe mark imo. Both of them arent replayable at all, unlike the original quadrilogy.
@@fysl305 Oh, it's a movie? Must be the one they showed Claire (back in one again, no Jill lol)
I experienced the same thing. I might go back and play Leon's with the OG music playing (suffered through ambient mess because I wanted his classic outfit with that run). I don't like the personality change with Claire and no reason since they messed up the different routes. Beat it once, haven't played it since when I thought I would.
Im Just waiting for fallout new Vegas remaster😓
After Crash Spyro and residentevil 2make came out was kinda excited for some of these remakes but now i'm just sick of 'em.
I hate remakes in general. The Silent hill 2 for intense, I'd be more interested if the game is from Angela perspective, or Eddie.
I personally do not have a problem with remakes, as long as they stay true to the original and don't change too much. It's getting more and more difficult to play older games because they don't always work on current gen hardware/PCs, and it can be a pain in the ass trying to get them to work properly(especially on PC). Having an old gem remade for current gen hardware can be beautiful and exciting, like Dead Space. I originally owned that game on PS3, and holy shit was it hard to play and look at on my PS3 when I recently went back to it. The low resolution was making my eyes water constantly, and the unresponsiveness of my controller was making it difficult to play. So, why spend more money on an outdated system/controller, when the new game is perfect and maybe even better than the original? True, my first experience with Dead Space on PC was amazing, and it still is fun, but there's nothing wrong with bringing old gems into the current timeline(done correctly) and for new generations to enjoy.
So you've never heard of emulation? You wouldn't live long enough to be able to play all the games available with additions, mods and refurbishings.
@@blumiu2426 Yes, I have. I currently don't have a good enough rig to do that smoothly. Maybe in my next PC build.
@@cpt.roosto2097 Are you thinking PS3 or XBox emulation? Your rig should run NES to PS2 easy even if dated.
@@blumiu2426 PS3 and PSOne for sure, not really PS2.