Is Drake The Biggest Hip-Hop Artist Ever? | DEHH Convo
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- Опубликовано: 6 мар 2019
- Here's the heated spin off debate from our Drake So Far Gone 10 year anniversary review/convo.
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Feefo: ... and I found this ID in this wallet. And if thats the case, this MUST be your wallet.
Modest media: That makes sense to me
Feefo: then take it.
Modest Media: its not my wallet
Your a g for that reference
stinky LMAO! facts
ayoo lmaoooo
Is this that dude in the comments section? Lmao
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Rod crazy if he thought that Drake wasn't selling out arena's
allowman65 but how does that make him the best HIP HOP artist ever 🤔🤔 So did Pac Jay Em
N plenty more... sellin arena’s doesnt mean ur the best hip hop artist look at Lil Pump...u gonna say the same thing then Ima laugh bruh
he could probably sell out a stadium if he tried
@@sezarstar3990 look up the definitions to biggest and best.
I love Rod but he can be frustrating sometimes lol. You don't have to be a huge Drake fan to know how much of a commercial success he is.
I agree that it's not an automatic "yes" vote for Drake just cause he's hot now, but anyone who has been to one of his shows can tell you how much of a crazy white and female following he has, which is arguably more important to a modern rap artist's longevity than any other eye test.
Overall though this debate is kind of impossible to do because of the way new music is consumed. Jay Z has the advantage of more than 15 years of a head start on Drake during a time when people bought CDs. So you have to compare the same amount of time spent to make it a fair comparison to look at album sales, singles sales, streaming (which favors Drake because he's current), tour gross adjusted for inflation etc. I would say comparing Jay Z 96-06, Drake from 2010-2020 would be more fair, but not perfect because of the CDs versus streaming counts.
Other than that, name recognition is important in this. How many non-rap fans know Jay Z from Drake from Pac from from Wayne from Kendrick from Eminem etc.? These are all hard questions to know if you don't have a nuanced take on what "popularity" means. For now I say Jay or Eminem followed by Kanye and Pac should be up high overall, but Drake is getting there faster because he crosses over and is strategically more global than most artists because of his sound "borrowing."
Jay-Z has been inflating his own sales numbers for years... the samsung deal, tidal streams, sprint deal.
But can't knock the hustle.
I see what you did there
@Yanisel Garcia I'm sure he has the back end numbers to see how he ACTUALLY does... don't think he cares if the public has access to that info lol
Yanisel Garcia all artists be inflating their sales with merch
*Done after Rod said Drake can’t sell out arenas. BRUHHHH!* 🤣🤣🤣
This video had a lot old school dead end hip hop vibes, circa 2011 - 2013. A lot of yelling, funny shit and arguing. All that was missing was the random black and white.
Real heads know!!
We almost got close to the famous " Lil b " review at some point
BIG FACTS HAHAHAHAH
The random black and white lmao
hell yea, the thumbnail looks exactly the same too@Daniel Hill
ROD IS INSANE. 😂 Didn't Drake sellout the Garden twice in one week 😂😂😂
edit: FOUR times in one week.*
Wasn’t a solo tour...next.
@@ModestMediaTube When was Jay-Zs last solo tour? Watch the Throne was with Ye. Magna Carta was with Justin Timberlake. On The Run was with Beyonce. In 4:44 Vic Mensa was the opening act for every show. On The Run II was Beyonce again.
issa drink facts. People will attempt to discredit Drake for anything just because they hate the dude for no reason
issa drink you should’ve left Vic Mensa out. He isn’t bringing anybody to the show. The rest was valid tho
issa drink Magna Carta was a solo tour and his last solo tour was 4:44. Both broke records.
Drake sold out the garden 3 nights in a row dawg
Don’t mean shit
@@myword787 wtf you mean
This discussion was so frustrating. Rod cant be serious
Rod has always been the dumbest in the group
Rod is always so out of touch
Beezy only shows up for participation points nowadays, dude don’t say a thing 😂
i like how at the end myke was like " y'all are not leaving my man out like that . Beezy what's good bro ?" haha
Beezy hardly have anything to say anyways.
If DEHH was a rap group, he would be only there for Ad Libs (and occasional verses on throwaway songs).
Unwavering Pundit Actually, he’d be the producer in the background since he actually does make beats. If they were Tribe, he’d be Ali Shaheed Mohammed.
Maybe this time I can understand him since talking so much about Drake is boring and annoying
It’s not a roc Marciano review
This is all according to Wikipedia: Drake has sold 107 million records. Jay-Z has sold 100 million records. Eminem has sold 220 million records. Eminem has sold more records than Drake and Jay combined.
Cause he's white. I wonder how many times black artists music has been pirated.
Em tail end of career he fell off so hard in his impact jay and drake both still have great impact! Jay and Drake also put alot of artist on.
@@TheDominiqueBallou em put 50 cent on! another one of the biggest ever rappers
Dominique Ballou Drake ain’t put no one on hiphop wise. Doing a song with lil trap rappers doesn’t count and you people were listening to Migos before Versace. He helped but didn’t put on anyone of significance
thekickback Lil Wayne is the GOAT!!!
Eminem is a way better argument against Drake than Hov
Eminem has #whiteprivilege
@@GHDiva That's the obvious. Still doesn't negate the fact he's one of the best to ever do it.
@@GHDiva lol hes the only white rapper thats great literally he was one of the first white rappers hes the best fast rapper of all time ur a dumbass if u think he has white privelage
edit: im not saying hes the most pouplar rapper cause hes not drake is no qustion
You right
Ali Chaudhry Valid
When Feefo and Myke team up nobody can stop them 😂
Edit: nvm Myke switched sides
😂😂😂
Drake went on tour by himself in 2017 with the Boy Meets World Tour.
Did he sell out a majority of the tour dates?
@@maniacmadness115 Sold out in minutes. But to be fair, it was a UK tour.
@@MylesSquared But he took major acts with him like Travis Scott.
@@TheOnlyCoop co-headlines and support acts is different.
@@MylesSquared Travis Scott and Nikki are more than just support.
When I had a job in a grocery store in *rural Missouri* where the white population was over 75%, all of my co-workers under 50 listened to Drake. Only two of them listened to Jay-Z. Drake has way more crossover appeal than Jay Z *by far*.
Plus you gotta take more than just the US into consideration. Jay-Z ain't poppin elsewhere
Yeah cuz he sings. He's an R&b artist disguised as a rapper.
Eminem is by far the most popular hip hop artist.
What time period are you talking about? Drake currently is probably the biggest rapper. But of all time, or worldwide, Jay-Z is bigger than him.
I'm from London- Jay-Z was the first rapper to perform at Glastonbury festival here in Britain, and that festival was notoriously racist.
Floral Kami not even, lil Wayne sells more than him
jay Z IS NOT selling out arenas. When he doesn't his team is known for drastically lowering ticket prices to keep the illusion alive
I respect Jay, he is a GOAT but DRAKE been bigger than him everywhere in the world for at least 10 years. I live in France and Africa and i travel everywhere. Outside of the US nobody knows Jay Z except Hip hop fans. But everybody knows DRAKE. The moma, the old folks, the girls, the kids. It's not even fair.
Plus Jay Z is selling ARENAs outside of the US only because of BEYONCE. I'm a Jay fan but i know for a fact there no way he sell an ARENA in FRANCE by Himself if he doesn't put BEYONCE name on it.
@Kyle Knockaert you trippin.. he has way more devoted fans.. especially fangirls
hahaha are u ok..i am from africa and almost everone knows eminem and everone is descover hip-hop after listen him and 50 cent
Because Jay z is a true hip hop artist Drake is not
Amar Randev your knocking him for being versatile
@@CT-yr8ph Versatile artist i get it. I just said hip hop is hip hop and drake know he ain't a hip hop artist no more. He's versatile but not Hip Hop. Bars don't get arenas filled but heart.
One word : Eminem. How are you gonna talk about the most sales, sell out arenas and being the biggest without given it to eminem. It's not even a conversation
Horrible video over all missing out on Kanye and 50 Cent too. Jay-Z comes nowhere near unless you live in a US bubble
@@okayyymc3 Lmao it was ridiculous but funny as fuck. Em clearly wins
Shady Maze Eminem is white. Doesn’t count whatsoever
@@SHTFSTAXXX Majority in Drake and and even Kendrick's tours are white. Have you ever gone to one? Lol.
@@Aviishek. Thats besides my point and yes I’ve been to many drake/Wayne/jay concerts. Eminem has the support of most yt ppl. Drake and Kendrick don’t have the full support of all yts , who are you kidding.
People may Not like eminem. But every time he drops a project he breaks a record, he'll break a streaming record and a stadium record. And as someone who isnt in america. Jayz isnt as big as drake over seas
"I sound like a broken record every time I break a record" -Eminem
@@markscruggs8346 "You can never say to me i'm not a fucking record breaker " - Previous line
Shakanil Suveges Lil Wayne is the biggest tho, Wayne has worked with literally everyone in the music industry From Em to Jay to Ariana,Britney Spears,Beyonce I can literally go on forever, He has reached all kinds of crowds everybody knows Lil Wayne’s name..
Shakanil Suveges Wayne even has a song with Limp Biskit called Ready To Go check it out..
@@alexsar4852 lil wayne is highly popular. But accordin to statistics its eminem. Fun fact-eminem has a song with limp bizkit tho i dont understand how it defines popularity.
Rod was TRIPPING lmao he’s such a Jay Stan
Does this guys know that Eminem’s recent Stadium Tour has broke all attendance records at Australia and New Zealand?
No because they're out of touch.
That's great. If drake or Jay went there it most likely happen to
@@traxagenda3445 I mean it hasn’t happened tho, Em gotta be the biggest hip hop artist ever. Look at top 50 selling albums of all time in all genres, there’s only two rap albums, the Marshall Mathers Lp and the Eminem show both sold over 30 mill units worldwide. Drakes highest sold 9 mill units worldwide and hov highest sold 6 mill worldwide, Em has 7 projects that sold 10 mill worldwide and two that sold over 30 mill. Not close
@@traxagenda3445 and Em sold 1 mill in the us alone 3 times in a row. Not close
@@traxagenda3445 Eminem sold out 90000 seats Wembley stadium back to back nights. He is the only rapper to even sell out Wembley stadium.
I have to strongly disagree with Rod’s arguement about Drake & not selling out arenas. Example, most people who are fans of Migos are probably Drake fans aswell. The same thing can NOT be said the other way around
Factoid
💯...Nobody bought those tickets just to see the Migos
Actually he hasn't out sold Em and Em barely gets radio play
In terms of raw cd unit sales probably not but in every other arena yes
Maybe in the last few years, but Em was massive on the radio from 00-13
He actually has. Drake is the top-selling solo male artist of all-time in the US with 218 million sales. Eminem comes in third with 172 million sales. Source: TheSource.com
@@okayyymc3 You're comparing album sales with single sales and combining them to skew numbers. 1 Eminem album has outsold Drakes entire discography. Drake has sold 18 million albums. Eminem has sold 51 million.
@@okayyymc3 bro they count streams... streams are not real sales, they are ad money for the label. its different if you sold a bunch of CDs. you can bet Em made more money for everyone at aftermath than drake made for cash money
Feels good to see Mike and Feefo team up and agree on something for once, lol 😂
I don't understand how you can talk about the biggest hip hop artist ever without mentioning Eminem..
Freaking joke video
8:58 The moment Myke's soul left his body.
Rod is too much of a Jay Z stan to accept the truth. It's no use arguing because you are just going to get a headache trying to reason with him.
26:00 oh wow that twist at the end lol.
all Jay fans are ridiculous.
@@TheKondinho *stans
Did you watch the whole video? Jay-Z has outsold Drake overall, and Jay-Z has also currently outsold Drake worldwide.
@@Yawdan cite your sources, where are you getting this from?
@@onjesisme site my sources? This video itself... Did you just see the title and head straight to the comments?
It’s simple. Americans need to take a look at the rest of the world on this issue. I’m from Portugal. I can tell you, no one here is listening to Jay like that. Some hip hop heads, sure. But not the majority of people. But I bet you, everyone knows at least three Drake songs. Therefore, he is the bigger artist, in the sense that he’s the most popular globally. I’m with Myke and Feefo on this one.
Btw, Myke’s reactions to Rod were hillarious 🤣
Because the rest of the world means Portugal only, apparently lol. Drake is the biggest artist of the last decade on the US, but not globally. Period.
Eduardo Andrade Mendonça I didn’t say that, lol. But you do you, with your passive agressive bullshit. Period.
@@ericeira23 You said he is the the bigger artist considering only your point of view regarding Portugal, without mentioning statistics or even examples from more populous countries, don't pretend like you didn't. Jay and Eminem are legends of Hip Hop worldwide, Drake managed to become the artist of the decade on USA, which is extremely impressive, and a few other countries.
@@eduardoandrademendonca3549 drake bigger than jay
@@gkay8889 Show me why and I'll believe you.
I never said this before but how are y'all not mentioning Eminem
I think it has to be Em.
Ummmm hes not even in the convo! He may had the greatest prime but tail end of his career he fell of
@@TheDominiqueBallou he was the 5th bestselling artist of 2017 And 2018 worldwide. He's also the bestselling Artist of the Century, Worldwide and 3rd most streamed of all time. He's the only rapper that never shoves his stats at everyone
@@TheDominiqueBallou Em had a top 5 selling rap album last year, how did he fall off??
yes. easily. numbers, influence, popularity, headlines, awards, records, hits. dude has made his mark
but biggest hip hop artist "ever"??????
He's not bigger then Eminem if you say "biggest of all time"
Waseem Jaas he definitely is all these people are tripping god damn
@@thomasnewton8223 drake has big steaming numbers....em has actual physical units....and numbers don't lie...album sales wise
@Dimension Omega drake a black white boy
They wilding how they have this whole conversation without mentioning eminem????
I love feefos energy. When he gets the high pitched voice during an arguement u know u lost.
I’m 17 minutes in and Eminem has not been mentioned yet
@Daniel Hill drake came out in 2009. Eminem since releases 2 diamond certified singles. Recovery alone sold more then any Drake Album. MMLP2 was the 2nd best selling album in 2013, and that shit came out in November. He dropped a surprise album and it debuted at number 1 and it went platinum. Now that's the last 10 years. Em also the only rapper who has 2 diamond certified albums. He's the best selling artist of the 2000s. He's the 2nd best selling male artist behind Garth Brooks. He's still breaking attendance records worldwide. And he broke the record for Wembley stadium 2 night in a row back to back.
I hate belittling Eminem’s career but he is literally only the top selling artist because of the shade of his skin. The man skill is undeniable, but musically he hasn’t been great since the 2000s. If Eminem was black, he would’ve never went diamond. Never.
@@BoiTrey725 that is incorrect. Biggie, Outkast, 2 Pac,.and MC Hammer have all gone Diamond. The only White Rap artists to go Diamond are Em and The Beastie Boys.
There is a huge chance that if Em were Black, he could've went Diamond if the music was still of the caliber that it was. People only use his skin color when they want to write him off, but forget that Em literally had to be as good as he is skill wise to even be given a chance in the first place. His actual skill is just as integral to his success as his skin color.
For a White rapper to succeed in the 90s, especially after Vanilla Ice, he had to be no less than one of the better/best rappers out in terms of skill. Without that skill, his skin color wouldn't have helped him because Black Rap fans, rappers, and tastemakers would've rejected him.
Davon T. V. Did you not see the part when I said his skill is undeniable? Let’s not forget he had the best producer of all time co-sign and produce his best projects. Like put it into perspective, after the MMLP, none of his projects can hold a candle to Drake’s worst shit. But he’s (Em) still the top selling artist. Plus you used 2 rappers who died to reach diamond and MC Hammer to help your argument... Are you kidding me?
Daniel Hill just stop replying to him bro, the guy has a Duppy Freestyle on his channel rapping like he’s 2002 Eminem lmfaooo the irony.
Drake barely edges out Jay-Z for total sales, at 107 million and 100 million respectively. That does not include streams, that's pure sales.
Kanye out does both by a considerable margin with 132 million.
And Eminem demolishes all of them at 220 million sales.
Considering Drake has been in the rap game for less than half of the years of the rest....
Eminem been around for way longer than Kanye and Drake though
@@jay-r6744 kanye gained popularity in 2004 and eminem in 1999. Its not way longer.
Drake was performing in an arena where I live (without the migos) and that shit sold out so quick that they scheduled 2 additional performances
Out of Jay & Drake - Drake is bigger. But overall, Eminem is far above anyone else. He's not just the best selling rapper of all time, he's literally the best selling artist of 21st century across all genres.
selling albums wasn’t really around when drake was out tho. drake is far more popular imo.
@@park7854 Yes, it was. That's an invalid excuses. Plus its not just about albums anyway, its overall global sales. Eminem has just sold way more globally to the point its not possible for any other rapper to surpass him sales wise.
Drake killing Em in a verzuz battle all he gotta do is play hotline bling
@@z7983 Its totally not an invalid excuse wtf? album sales have greatly declined across all genres (basically the entire industry) due to streaming. Drakes album had over a billion streams the first week of its release.
Em is also white. And is the only good white rapper. Its the Larry Bird syndrome. If you white and really good at a black skill you are elevated.
im glad you guys are distinguishing between the best and the biggest. i hate when people get into this discussion and confuse the two
Biggest can be factually proven with statistics, best is purely subjective despite what stans say.
IamFirtyDucker facts
IamFirtyDucker it really can’t if you have streaming camps
IamFirtyDucker exactly. Which is why there’s no point in wasting time on this lol. Come on DEHH! Stop pandering for views
Not a super Em Stan by any means..........but i think that title goes to him according to Feefo's criteria 🤷🏿 kinda outsold everyone.
I'm surprised Eminem wasn't mentioned in this agreement tbh has Em sold more than Jay-z albums I think he has. How was Em not mentioned in this debate even 50 could of been mentioned in this conversation 50 was the biggest rapper from 2003-2007 Em has been popping his whole career pretty much I would definitely say Em is more popular than Jay and I'm not even a Em fan but come on the facts are there Em is way bigger than Jay.
@@legendary9689 I think it's a matter of biggest peak vs biggest overall. Em has the biggest peak in rap but I think Drake has a bigger career overall.
@@tydraxelhimmingburg4676 But I'm talking about between Jay and Em I think Em has always been bigger than Jay and has always had I bigger rap career than Jay and yes I agree I think Drake longterm has a bigger career than both.
@@legendary9689 My bad, I misread. But yeah, Em is bigger than Jay. However, I'd say Jay had more rap fans than Em ever did.
@@tydraxelhimmingburg4676 Em is the Bestselling ARTIST of the 21st Century, Worldwide, Drake hasn't even outsold Eminem This decade. He's the 3rd most streamed, 5th most viewed of all-time and that started a decade into his career. He was the 5th bestselling artist of 2017 And 2018 worldwide. I don't know why my favorite artist has to be the only rapper who Never brags!
Most streamed artists of 2018 (Source :Forbes)
1. Drake
2. Post Malone
3. Xxxtentacion
4. Eminem (the old washed dude who has been in the game for 25 + years and forgotten in this convo)
Cuz eminem is trash lol. Dude is overhyped cuz he's a plant in the industry
@@judahgill112 heavily disagree..also that doesnt take away the fact that hes the best selling rapper ever.
Judah Gill he spanked jay on his own track, a plant isn’t gonna out rap a legend
Lol u said eminem 25+ years And STILL IN THE GAME. STILL OUTSELLING. STILL SELLING OUT 80000 ARENAS. .. Lol
@@kristoamadeus4441 people really still saying Eminem got Jay? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hes not bigger than Eminem bro
how could he be? he's not white lol
He is tho
He is bigger
G Kay No he’s not lol.
@@gkay8889 he is these nigga trippin
How are you going to talk about biggest rapper and not talk about Eminem
I usually don’t like to include him in these arguments because he is undoubtedly destroying any rapper from the #’s and records perspective. He’s up there with some of the all time greats from the Beatles, MJ, etc.
@@TheKnicks2012 okay well that
Oh yeah...they both wrong 😂😂 I don’t even like em but he is obviously the biggest rapper ever
Because his relevance has taken a nose dive in the last 15 years 😂😂😂😂
Em was in a whole different world....he was a special case like Hammer, Vanilla Ice, or Nelly....he just happened to be one of the best rappers to ever live. Lol
Jay not being on spotify makes a huge difference
How? Tidal is booming
@@supa4ys843 internationally? No, its not
@@supa4ys843 I literally know nobody who uses tidal.
Eminem has still outsold Drake. Wtf is this conversation about?
Thats wrong
@@mikaylakimberly No, its not.
Eminem sold 13.862 million albums over the past decade, third overall behind Adele (23.924 million) and Taylor Swift (22.972 million). Rounding out the top 5 were Justin Bieber (12.098 million) and Drake (10.526 million).10 jan. 2020
Eminem Was The Bestselling Male Artist Of The 2010s - Forbes
www.forbes.com 2020/01/10
Drake sold more digital singles copies, plus Drake outcharts and outstreams Eminem by a mile. Eminem's peak was around 2000
Joker Levin em been out for longer drakes career not done. Drake is top 10 at least and I would put em 3 but I wouldn’t be mad if you say he’s 1
@@pavlegrebenarevic382 Don't Forget 2010's was Em's Second Decade being dominant, you're forgetting 2000"s .. and we're talking about All time here I don't think Drake can go toe to toe with Em
Eminem is in his own league. Literally has outsold everybody else in the game, for example. This conversation was really entertaining to watch, though. Hilarious stuff.
Rod and Kinge are clearly in denial. All you gotta do is look at Drake’s ig for pics of the Scorpion tour. Mycke and Feefo are the only ones making sense.
So true.. they are too emotionally invested into 'real hip hop' to have a conversation about popularity it's like they don't want to accept it. Feefo is not arguing about best or greatest his arguing biggest. This conversation don't really Matter anyway this title goes to Marshall Mathers regardless.
@@mrhussain9008 his point was the biggest of all time and he lost the debate
No, Eminem exist.
Raphael Carmo he out sold him awhile ago
Eminem IS. Not even a convo. Y'all love to discredit him but not bigging him up in THIS discussion lol. Yall tripping
I love DEHH but I have to agree with you.. I wouldn't say that DEHH loves to discredit him but that's definitely how it appears after seeing this video. I think it was an honest fuck up.
MrNikhilmeel Lil Wayne is bigger than Em trust me on that.
That's because Em is always selling out the ass. It's not even a convo no more.
MrNikhilmeel I legit think it’s just a given that he’s beyond just hip hop so they didn’t bother because a drake versus Jay Z debate would be much more entertaining lol
@@Nathan_Matthias Good point.
Na, Eminem - by a landslide to me
No
"To me" this is based on numbers, not opinions
Eminem has sold more albums but drake when you look at it in a streaming era is dominating streams and not only that drake has more female supporters while having a lot of Male supporters
@@marikoth Yeah and based on numbers (sales), Drake is not even remotely close to Eminem. Eminem is not just the best selling rapper of all time, he's literally the best selling artist of 21st century across all genres. He's also the only rapper to have two solo diamond albums. They even clarified in the Slim Shady 20 yr review that they were only talking about Jay & Drake here, they know Eminem is obviously the biggest rapper of all time.
M_hulse
“Drake is not even remotely close to Eminem”
You can’t even compare their numbers because they’re from 2 different eras.
Myke the Kid C Town back again!!
I mean, I know you probably don't like the guy, but if we're talking "biggest rapper ever" you got to give it to Eminem; even we're talking in the US only. He had a huge debut to say the least. MMLP had the highest first week sales ever. The Eminem Show is the biggest selling rap album ever. Certified Diamond. MMLP is the second most sold album ever, diamond aswell. Lose Yourself is an Oscar winning song and a diamond single. This is 2002. I could stop here and it would be enough to call him the biggest rapper ever (except maybe 2pac). People who say Eminem's run lasted until this point clearly don't know what they are talking about. Recovery is almost diamond and two singles in it are certified diamond - Not Afraid, Love The Way You Lie. This is 2010. MMLP2 and Relapse we're also huge with singles like We Made You and Rap God. No Hip- Hop artist has even come close to these numbers. Even today with people considering Eminem not relevant he is breaking attendance records and Kamikaze was the most sold album of 2018 (pure sales only). I could go on and on to prove my point, but I going to stop here. I think credit must be given where credit is due. You are too isolated in your bias and social media bubble to really have a valid conversation about this topic.
Eminem is the best selling hip hop artist of the 21st century and has been relevant much longer than drake while also consistently outselling him. Em is easily the biggest
calvin louis But what about when drake is ems age
@@minovictor maybe but drake has not really been near as popular as eminem was from 1999 to 2004
Oculus01 popular in terms of what sales? Sales wise em holds literally every hip hop record 😭
@@minovictor no popular in terms of he was everywhere and everyone knew his name and he was in the news every day. Drake has not hit that level of popularity
Oculus01 oh u trippin everyone knows drake. The reason em was in the news everyday was 1 because he did crazy things and 2 celebrities these days are seen as “normal people”. Everyone’s on social media celebrities today may be as well known as celebrities 20 years ago but you won’t see it through the news you’ll see it through social media followers etc
Hits: Drake
Sells: Drake
Crossover: Drake
Tour: Drake (Jay was 2nd artist since run dmc to sell out Garden but Drake has sold it out the most)
Cosign: Jay (he got beyonce)
Ppl put on: Drake (hint everyone he toured w (migos, future, etc) expect Nicki
Jay Z has biggest brand due to business and lets be real.... Him being married to Bey is a HUGE reason why hes a Billionaire.
em out sold both
@@rossslattery7183 no
@@gkay8889 sorry but yep em has the biggest sales numbers
@@gkay8889 Eminem is not just the best selling rapper of all time, he's literally the best selling artist of 21st century across all genres.
As far as i know eminem is the biggest hip hop artist globally. I heard he just broke attendance records at stadiums outside the country recently. He be selling out stadiums everywhere he go. Drake is big but not as big as eminem. 20 years into his career and still going platinum and sales are high asf worldwide. Dats crazy
Yeah, isn't it crazy how Eminem was utterly blocked out of this conversation even when Myke used his name early in the video? They even brought Kendrick and Kanye as legitimate contenders into the debate and never once considered Eminem. This is nuts.
Eminem outsold the entire world, not just hip hop. He was 5th the last 2 yrs. It's like everyone is on a mission to erase him.
You think if drake has another 10years he will surpass em
@@matgamer5916 if he still goes super strong he may surpass him in eas units. But he wont surpass him in album sales. Em currently has 3 times more album sales(includin streams) in us than drake.
@@markasbon8610 the mad thing about eminem is the fact that Hé has lots of Kids in his fanbase (really annoying), when an artist gets older (every genre) so does his fanbase and his sales slows, that's not the case for eminem, so I think Hé will keep on selling, even after his retirement or his death... Like MJ...
Yoooo - If you hop on the wiki to peep Jay and Drake's tours, it makes Rod's/Ken's argument even worst lmfao Co-Headlining included Beyonce........but also Eminem, Kanye West (Watch the Throne), Justin Timberlake, and even tours supporting U2 & Coldplay.
Exactly. Everyone Jay toured with were bigger than he was. His only solo tour was the 4:44 tour which flopped
Here's the dumbest thing, if you do a 5 minute wiki search you can see that even with everything you are saying, Jay Z only compares to Eminem in one country, and that's America. Where he still sells less than him but its in the same ballpark.
Then you look at the rest of the world and it isnt even close. There isnt a country on this planet you can go to where people werent and still arent bumping Em damn near. Same cannot be said for Jay. Eminem at his prime was Global. Jay has never got to that level.
Feefo: I’m a numbers guy
*see numbers*
Feefo: so how does that change anything?!?!
Eminem being left out of this convo is a national disgrace
It isn’t.
@@armondooley5442 He is literally the biggest hip-hop artist ever, undebatably.
@@Bidoofus not after listening to this he’s not.
Drake is cool but he still ain’t topped Pac or Em if we talking sales (all time not now)or even impact in general.Ill entertain this convo because it’s y’all though.On the real though I wanna collab with these dudes one day.DEHH was my inspiration for starting album reviews
The JH Review drake definitely outsold 2pac and em. wayne outsold 2 pac. but impact, hell nah.
Drake impact is so huge that it’s unnoticeable now... drake inspired the fusion between r&b hip hope dancehall and even grime... now mainly every rapper has another genre integrated into their style... also drake made it acceptable for men to show vulnerabilities... we don’t realize it right now but when drake steps back we will appreciate it more
I won't argue PAC impact because we already know what he brought to the game but Jay, ye and nas has had more impact in the game then em.
Drake has more songs that will transcend than Em or Hov. They still play that hotline bling shit on cruises and that’s one of his weaker songs
He has beat Em. Em gets a boost because he's white and the "machine" was fully behind him. And, Em never made music for the club like Drake does.
Bruh Jay can't even really sell out an arenas consistently anymore. The arena tour for 444 had low attendance
Cause they ain't wanna hear real shit they want that bubble gum Jay music
@@anthonyg2889 or maybe this is the nature progression for an artist whose been around since the mid 90s.
yes. Rod is in denial lol
Exactly if I’m not mistaken he was going on a solo 444 tour but due to low sells he had to add somebody with him
Cole Pace yo stop lying I actually went t o the 444 tour and that bitch was sold out
I’m surprised af that Eminem was not in this conversation, I thought he sold the most records out of everyone?
Eminem still the biggest. Check the international numbers! 💯
No
I think in terms of rappers he’s top 3. Gotta give drake more time to say he at that level
whos rllt bumping em common u dont bear him every where like drake
@@CT-yr8ph More time? As far as i'm concerned Drake fell off years ago when he started to steal literally every trend in hiphop over the backs of new artists.
@@mikaylakimberly Why not? Because he is white? Awfully openminded of ya
I’m not an Eminem fan, but that mans album literally went diamond.
Let’s be realistic now....the masses of teenagers nowadays haven’t even heard a full Jay Z album. Drake literally has fans from every walk of life, any age. Jay Z is not bringing in the younger crowd like Drake is, period.
Thank you . debate over
TJ B. Yeah even recent albums no teen or kid is going to listen to 444 lol
@@glory2god4infinity63 True but to be fair, 4-44 wasn't meant for teens to listen to just like lil Pump really for old heads.
Garryn Wingfield I was speaking to Rod’s argument of Drake can’t sell out arenas. (Which is ridiculous)
And this is very true but to be fair Jay has had 23 years in the game. Drake has only been out for a decade. So only time will tell
TJ B. and it’s going to be a point where teenagers won’t even care to listen to Drake
Lol that point is invalid because when a niggas time passes it passes
Bro Jay can BARLEY fill arenas now by himself...
Not the biggest Drake fan but he has more hits than the Beatles and he sells out arenas constantly
The problem with the argument is that they weren't clear about what they meant by popularity. In my mind I thought it wasn't necessarily about sales but more about how many people know who they are. My hispanic mom and my grandma won't buy a Drake album but they know who he is. I just think he's more popular worldwide.
Eric Kobak That’s hella false
Man flash news the best selling rapper is Eminem man that argument doesn’t stand
Drake had the highest grossing hip hop tour ever lmaoooooooooooo
At the end of the day, no matter who drake is on tour with, everybody in the building is a DRAKE fan 😑
So are we just going to sit here and act like Jay ain't take DMX with him on the Hard Knock Life tour in '99 when X was just as big if not BIGGER than Jay at the time??? Just curious.
That was an entire Hard Knock Life tour for all of the Def Jam artists. Hell, DMX was selling more than Jay at the time as far as albums. So that’s not his tour.
@@hivemind3000 either way they up there acting like How been selling out tours solo How had mad superstars on tour with him
Bruh Travis be selling out arenas, so many big artists sell out arenas now
That's not the argument tho. It's selling out back to back for YEARS
@av rmx bro the point of this comment is that if someone like travis is selliing out arenas, then why did Rod have such a hard time believing drake couldn't lol
on god, rod gave me multiple brain aneurysms with the things he said in this video
I think Eminem is the biggest rapper commercially. He’s sold over 200 million records, 10 number one albums, and 5 number one singles. Then after that I’ll say Drake
Yeah MMLP went diamond And so did " the eminem show " . Even kamikaze was the highest selling album last year in P.S . So in phisical sales no one is touching Em But in streaming although Em is doing fine there too he is not close to drake
@@brandonayong7656 Em was only close to Drake in streams when Kamikaze dropped. Drake was #1 on Spotify & Em was 2. In terms of streams though, there's a handful of artists currently slapping Drake 😂
@THE VICEVERSA PODCAST oh no absolutely. I was just commenting on the streaming aspect. Make no mistake, the streaming system is fucked up.
Drake is RIAA #1 Top Certified Artist Ever. Eminem is #3. Drake has 6 #1 singles, 33 Top 10 Hits and 8 #1 albums consecutively.
@@msawmusic Top Certified SINGLES artist. Number one, Drake is a Single monster while Eminem is not. Number 2, Drake gets way more radio play than Eminem because of the types of songs he makes. That part's not even really a debate 😂 Number 3, since this is all numbers talk, Drake having more fans because of way more cross-over + being a big Single Artist + all the radio play is gonna inevitably equal higher numbers. But like I also said, Drake's getting slapped in streams on Spotify. I'm not a 'numbers' guy, that's just what everyone here's talking about.
Rod stop it Drake has been selling out arenas sense so far gone before he had a record deal.
I work at a hotel in LA. Drake & Migos were at the Forum. Not one guest said they were there to see Migos. They called it a Drake contest. Every. Single. Guest. We sold out of rooms b/c of Drake.
Lol 14:30 Ken is basically saying that if Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos made a terrible rap album, they'd be the biggest hiphop artists. Just because they're succesfull businessmen
Ken hasn't made sense in 4 years. It is what it is lol
Guus van Dooremalen Bruh ken cannot argue bruh. We talking about as a music artist and this man bring up business like. Where did he think that would make sense.
😂😂😂😂
Well he's the most charting artist, but Em still holds the most sales and still outsells Drake.
Thato Monametsi I’m with you about sales but to not recognize that we are in a different era where music purchases go through streaming not pure sales.
It’s like trying to say Jordan is a better shooter than Steph Curry. Jordan is dominantly a 2 point shooter(pure sales like Em) but it’s a different era today where the 3 is most popular and you have to give that to Steph
Yeah but in 2018 its the chartings that count your popularity and not the album sales that are low for everyne
No one buys albums anymore
Em was second in streams just behind Drake,but out sold in actual album sales
Christopher Johnson Not to discredit Em I like him but tbh Drake didn’t have a hard physical copy of Scorpion in stores until a month after, and Scorpion broke a shit ton of streaming records, most streams in a week, and others I’m not sure of w/o looking it up.
If em has streaming during MMLP/Eminem Show I wouldn’t doubt he would break those
Myke’s faces were so priceless bruh
If we talking top 10 biggest RAPPERs of all time (not best)
than its probably:
1.Eminem (#1 Bestselling by far, most name recognition)
2.Jay Z (2nd best selling plus most iconic, 2nd highest name recognition)
3.Kanye West (arguably even more famous than Drake, most influential of all time)
4.Drake (3rd best selling, although most of his hits are pop or RNB, that's why he's not higher.
5.Lil Wayne (one of the best selling, dominated rap for 5 years)
6. 50 Cent (everyone knows who he is, had a huge run)
7.Snoop Dogg (arguably the second most recognized rapper of all time, my grandmother even knows who he is)
8.Kendrick Lamar (He became mainstream after DAMN, outsold drake, known internationally)
9. 2Pac (one of the highest selling artists of all time, his death was a big reason for it.)
10.Nelly (Kinda like Drake, mans had hits for days)
EMiNEM ain't dead. Eminem is still the best selling, he hasn't outsold em yet!
Of course. Em has a least a decade over Drake. But in terms of consistency in the last 5 years, I'll say Drake.
Damn em have a 10year head start dude. but agree eminem is best selling all time, but that could be drake very soon.
Total sales of records Drake has outsold every artist ever.
Dimeji Omoya In the US. Worldwide it is Eminem by far
@@kirkdouglas8089 nah. He wont reach eminems album no.s soon.
Bruh Eminem is the best selling artist in history
Name the top 5 selling rappers of all time.
@@legendary9689 without looking it up i would say Em , Jay z , Pac , Kanye and maybe wayne ? ( i got 3 out of 5 for sure )
brandon ayong so you’re putting Wayne and Kanye over Biggie smalls ? Ridiculous, i wouldn’t take those two over Nas either
@@TyReckless117 noooo this is not my top 5 quality wise i was just talking about sales . My top 5 is Em , Pac , Kendrick , Nas and Jay ( yeah sorry i feel kendrick more than biggie )
He's the bestselling Artist of the 21st Century, Worldwide not ever.
Eminem sells out Arena's in secs not mins literally secs with attendance of 80k or more :o how can you even say Drake is close at all. Eminem has been the #1 selling hip hop artist in the 21 cent and literally 2 almost 3 era's of hip hop wtf :O are you guys really talking about. Also the first hiphop artist on spotify to have 10 plus albums with 1 billion streams each!!!!
If we're talking all time wouldn't Eminem possibly be more popular than Drake and Jay Z? At the height of Eminems popularity he was basically a pop star
Commercially, absolutely. He's undoubtedly one of the most popular if not the most popular artists of all time. His following is insane and he's a household name. It also depends on your definition of "hip hop" though.
Matthieu Francois '18 exactly he not my Hip hop.
Agreed, now that rappers are the new pop, Drake has a machine behind him
@@hakeemsesay15 So neither is LL?
Drake isn't. Em definitely is though I'd say
MJ says hi tho. THE most popular artist of all time?
he’s not bigger than em was back in the day
Overall he has that's the point of all time
Brian Icu no
@@tronxcat001yt9 yes
They always leave Em out of these convos.
8 mile definitely helped
Lets be real Eminem has done Wembley stadium by himself which was 90,000 people.
Em has sold literally twice as many records as Drake and Jay... And I think Drake and Em both have 5 #1 singles....crazy y'all didn't invoke him in this convo
bro just look up the top10 hiphop albums on itunes right now
Kamikaze was at no.10 with yelawolf and nipsey hussle's albums above him
R.I.P Nipsey Hussle🙏🙏
DEHH Convo always forget Eminem.....They also forgot him in their convo for who can drop an album without promo.
@On The DEAD Loc's you got drake as your profile picture of course you'd think that. Facts say otherwise
@On The DEAD Loc's 😂😂 you have a scorpion avi
@On The DEAD Loc's oh that's easy then lol Eminem has 2 Diamond Albums the only other artist who does is 2Pac. drake has a single Diamond album. Eminem has 3 Diamond singles something drake does not have a single one of. He is still the highest selling Hip-hop artist of all time and of the decade from 2000-2010. He has broken more records in more countries than anyone else facts. He had the highest viewed music video in 24 hours with Killshot. Is that enough facts for you? That's for proving that you only know how to insult and you're actually the dumb fuck dick rider
@On The DEAD Loc's i think he is, he's sold more albums than any artist in history. and whenever eminem drops anything the internet just stops. IF he were to upload a freestyle right now everyone would stop what they're doing to go check it out.
@On The DEAD Loc's with physical sales eminem's album sold the most last year too. But to your kanye point. If he did That people would check it out to see what crazy shit he's saying now. Not to see how dope it is 😂
Eminem had two back to back albums that went Diamond (10 Million in the US)
He also has 3 Diamond singles, Drake only has 1.
Dann Vixm Albums used to sell back then bro ain’t nobody going diamond nowadays stop..
And he is way older than him to
I mean it's not like streaming exists or anything
Na Prime Eminem, by a landslide to me - he was the closest hip hops had to a Michael Jackson, still the only one to go platinum first week twice, even with streaming and you could pick one of his prime albums and it’s sold Atleast 3/4 of drakes entire discography
And Em has been the best selling all around artist of the past 2 decades, this one and the last and he’s got more diamond singles than any artist ever
Bruv J Cole and K dot are even selling out arenas. He's lost.
Em? Highest selling hip hop artist of all time✔white audience(come on)✔ selling out tours✔
Em does 5 dates every 3 years on tours.
@@sbrooks904 and Jay tours regularly? Also Em would sell out an arena tour every few months if he wanted. He would just rather spend time with his daughters. Now that they are grown though I bet he starts touring more.
Cold take. Drake tours more than Jay and Em. You cant just make an inference that "Em would sell out if he toured more" and call that a fact.
Brett Purdy Eminem is white. Who else would listen to him? Doesn’t count
Nah did you see the end of the video they looked it up he's not the biggest selling Hip Hop artist of all time, Jay has hugely outsold him over the course of both their respective careers
Reminder that eminem sold the most albums last year not drake
And that was a SURPRISE album 👌🏼
Eminem put out two albums last year. Even if one of the albums sold more physical copies of than Drake’s Scorpion, it still didn’t equal more overall sales. On today’s age, most people are streaming..and if we factor in streaming and all other sales, Drake finished at #5 and Eminem finished at #10
@@BS3000 what is you talm bout? Em only put out Kamikaze last year. Revival was put out Dec. 15th 2017. Kamikaze sold in PURE ALBUM SALES a little over 500K. Even shut out KOD which by a good amount of people it wss considered AOTY 👌🏼
Bam2106 my bad. Pure album sales cool, but we can’t pretend like streaming don’t count. We can’t pretend like that’s not the most accessible way to listen to music in 2019. If we factor that in, Drake finished ahead on Em. It’s nice that he sold the most pure albums, but his fan base is from an era where people bought albums.
@cannibalholocaust 8 months late..but em did sell more than 500k pure album us and 1 mil pure albuns worldwide..if streaming is included kamikaze sold 3 million worldwide.. and eminems 740k pure album sales in 2018 was not with the help of revival..but the eminem show and curtain call..revival flopped terribly after 2018 ended.
Whether he was serious or trolling. I love Rod for getting Myke and Feefo that pressed.
If the internet didn't exist:
Drake would sell more millions per album more than Jay. Hard Knock Life was Jays biggest selling album (5 mil). Drake woulda gotten those numbers more than once.
Facts
Biggest rapper ever?
Does drake have a video game? No.
You know who had a video game?
50 cent
😂😂 Facts
Had a video game a whole movie that he starred in himself. Wasn't any of that direct to DVD either. Shit Peak DMX > peak Drake.
Joe Budden was in Def Jam Vendetta. He's bigger than Drake.
Don’t forget about that SouljaGame 🔥🔥
Now I'm waiting for "Drake Adventures" to come out on PS4 and Xbox One
Eminem and 2Pac are the highest selling hip-hop artists of all time.
2Pac was number one in hip-hop album sales until Eminem passed him in 2010.
Lmao how did Pac have the most album sales up until 2010 if he died in 96.
@Lunar Orbit so Pac was selling more albums consitantly than Eminem even after his death all the way up to 2010?
@@tigermusky765 yes 2pac was. His greatest hits album, released after his death, sold over 10 million. 2pac and Eminem are the only two rappers to have two diamond albums.
I would argue that 2pac is a bigger rapper than Eminem as Eminem only reaches white demographics worldwide for the most part, whereas 2pac reaches everyone, from western society to Africa to the Caribbeans and Hispanic communities.
@@Yawdan mc Hammer was the first rapper to go diamond
@@jscooby_810 I made a typo- I meant to say 'two' not "to".
I Thought This Conversation Was Going To Be About Drake Vs Eminem Since Eminem Is The Only One That Can Fight When It Comes To Numbers Against Drake And Even Outsold him Is Some Areas
Rod was LITERALLY unbearable this entire video. His clear bias towards JAY-Z ruined the conversation for me. 🤦🏿♂️
He's a pop star that raps. He lost all his hip hop cred a long time ago
Biggest ever? I would say Eminem
I agree...if you only talking record sales. Overall, I'd put Jay-Z above him. Pac and Biggie had bigger influence for sure. I'd place Em above Wayne or Kanye, but those guys get talked about like they're bigger then they actually are, I think.
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@@Franz_Morhart They get talked about the way they do because they're more infuential and impactful then em! When you look at the game today how many children do Kanye and Wayne have versus em!?
franz morhart Even with Pac being thrown in there I still have to say Eminem from ‘99 - ‘04 was the biggest run a rapper can ever have, granted he’s still setting records & selling out arenas with little promo today. Pac was definitely big but I feel he was the biggest only within the black community while Em appealed to both black & white (not to say Pac didn’t appeal to white people but you know what I mean). I feel like LL Cool J, N.W.A, Biggie, Pac, Kanye, Wayne & Drake deserve to be in the conversation in terms of their peak popularity & who’s been the biggest rapper in the world.
Al Simmons Objectively, Eminem has more “babies” than Ye & Wayne. I’m not making assumptions but maybe you’ve only seen & noted the rappers that say Ye & Wayne influenced them. Because there is a WIDE plethora of rapper who says Em was (or one of) their biggest influence.
It’s either Drake or Eminem. You don’t have to like them, but you can’t deny their numbers and popularity
Drake's at the forefront of Hip Hop in a time where it is the biggest genre, so yes. You can't underestimate his hits too!